truthislight:

you have started bringing up oladegbu lies here.

That is what desperation can do.

Is that what you were ask to bring?

BARRISTERS:
jws did not claim that there would be end in 1914 , jws did not change on that

You forgot to add “slippery”.

Of course, you can’t read properly. In fact, you are a fool. Did I quote Olaadegbu or The Harp of God, Zion’s Watchtower and the Proclaimers’ book? Someone says the JW never said the world would end in 1914 and that they never changed their teaching on 1914 and I provide evidence from your literature that they did both and you are asking me if that is what was asked. Explain what was asked, you grounded rat.

BARRISTERS: @ Myjoe
i know that you are responding to truthslight, but calling someone a fool here will also spark the same thing that happened in other tread, and you know that im equal to the task here to respond to insult in a more ridiculous ways too, because i surport the jws,even though im not one yet, i think it will benefit the other users to read why's something happened and how it happened from the bible itself as a guide instead of degenerating the way we have engaged ourselves in the other tread!

MyJoe:
You forgot to add “slippery”.

Of course, you can’t read properly. In fact, you are a fool. Did I quote Olaadegbu or The Harp of God, Zion’s Watchtower and the Proclaimers’ book? Someone says the JW never said the world would end in 1914 and that they never changed their teaching on 1914 and I provide evidence from your literature that they did both and you are asking me if that is what was asked. Explain what was asked, you grounded rat.

Someone is now asking for “scanned copies” and saying day was not lifted along when the sentences were lifted from paragraphs. That's probably a more clever route, why don’t you try it? This is what I was responding to, you fool:

MyJoe:
Except for the highlighted part, that^^^ is a reasonable post, and I acknowledge your point.

If you go through my history of posting you will toil to find any insults or even little statements of rudeness. But then some people make it clear to you there is a certain way they want to be treated, and it's a dereliction if you do not do what is proper under the circumstances. This guy was twisting my words out of shape in the other thread, accusing me of preaching abortion even though I never said anything about the subject. You saw nothing wrong in that, as you did not remonstrate with him or even tell him to hold it that there are better ways of handling things like you did when the made his fraction post. I gave a calm response and simply moved on. What did he do? He went round the section looking for some of my old posts and throwing his tripe at them and turning my posts upside down wherever he comes across any. Don't you think he has spoken clearly about how he wants to be addressed if I am to get him off my back?

And, oh, you have been calling people fool on the thread long before I showed up. Olodo, I understand, means the same thing as fool.

**Edited**

truthislight:

hahaha. Lol.

My friend why are you desending so low naa?

You know i would not join you.

But, have you notice that the real you have come out?

Imagine the indecency that is criticising JW?

Imagine!
Talking to your kind is a let down to me.

Pls. Upgrade so that you can be worthy of a reply.

Peace

MyJoe:
You fool. The real me was never hidden. I have been posting here long before you. Just adapted to deal with a pest such as you. Say you wouldn't join me, but you fool no one. You were the first to insult in the other thread opened by your brother - he said so. Your hypocrisy does not fool anyone.


You have nothing to reply. Hiding behind lies doesn't help you. I know you don't feel any embarrassment since you don't think, but you are an embarrassment to whatever group you belong to.

BARRISTERS: @t-med



do you read those claims that was brought? they are lifted sentences from a paragraphs, but unfortunately they could not lift the particular 'day' together, so i demand for a scanned copy so as to confirm,and also see wheather there is a fix date of a day in a month in particular year that jws actually says that the world would end.

speculate? is not the issue here? read the main topic here;
''FAILED PROPHECIES OF THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY WITH REFERENCES''

lets see what a calamity 'prophecy' in the bible looks like, there are three ingredients it must contain;
1, The prophecy must be relayed through vision, or revelation to a person who convey the message to the one concerned. watchtower never claim to receive any vision whatsoever concerning the endtime,but it was jesus who declare an end to come, but the 'day and hour' nobody knows, so jesus carries the burden of the claim of 'who prophecied endtime' in the first place.
2,A prophecy (of a calamity) must be specific to a day or count to a particular day of a month of a particular year. no evidence has been brought forward that indicate a particular date that jws 'fix' like 29/8/2012......

see an example of a ''prophecy of destruction'' here again, i have cited it before,
jonah 3:1-3,
1 Then the Lord spoke to Jonah [/b]a second time: 2 [b]“Get up and go to the great city of Nineveh, and deliver the message I have given you.”

NOTE ABOVE THAT JONAH HAS RECEIVE A 'REVELATION' AND WAS TO GO AND DELIVER IT JUST THE WAY IT WAS REVEALED TO HIM;

3 This time Jonah obeyed the Lord’s command and went to Nineveh, a city so large that it took three days to see it all.[a] 4 On the day Jonah entered the city, he shouted to the crowds: [size=14pt]“Forty days from now Nineveh will be destroyed!”[/size]

FOURTY DAYS WILL BE A MONTH AND FEW DAYS IN NISSAN CALLENDAR! THE PEOPLE CAN COUNT FROM THE 'HOUR' OF THE 'DAY' THEY HEARD THE MESSAGE WHICH WILL BE A PARTICULAR HOUR OF THE 41ST DAY, HAD IT BEEN WE KNEW THE DATE JONAH WAS SAYING THIS OF WHICH THE PEOPLE OF NINEVEH CAN SPECIFY THAN US NOW.

SO, THE ENTIRE NOTION THAT WATCHTOWER PROPHECIED IS COMPLETELY UNFOUNDED. THERE WAS NO INGREDIENTS LIKE WHAT A PROPHECY SHOULD LOOK LIKE, THE INGREDIENTS THAT ARE TO BE SATISFIED IS THE 'DAY' AND 'HOUR', ACCUSERS MUST COMMIT JWS TO DAY AND HOUR AGAINST JESUS CLAIM THAT ''NOBODY KNOWS THE DAY AND HOUR''

TO BE FAIR TO JWS, NOBODY HAS COME OUT WITH A 'FIX DAY OF 24HRS IN A MONTH OF 30DAYS' TO NAIL THEM EXCEPT WHAT CAN BE TERMED AS EMPTY INSULTS THAT DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.

chukwudi44: The fact remains anyone who claims to prophesy in the name of the Lord and it does not come to pass is a failed prophet.

The fact remains anyone who claims to prophesy in the name of the Lord and it does not come to pass is a failed prophet.

ijawkid:

Witnesses aren't prophets...we are bible students who watch closely to see how bible prophecies corroborate with the times we live in......we don't see apparitions or visions....

All we do is compare scriptures with scriptures and see how they allign with present day events......

The books of revelation,isaiah,daniel,ezekiel, are our basis.....

Because you have been butt hurt seriously,you think you are trying to pay back uh??....

Sorry mr chukwu.....let me go thrash you on idolatry and mary worship....let's go!!!!!.....

BARRISTERS: @chukwudi44


so jonah is a false prophet,isn'nt it see what he said...“Forty days from now Nineveh will be destroyed!” but it never was in 40 days, cant you see that God is more interested in having many people repent? than killing and destroy? that is the message, are you living in such a way that if you die today,you are having the rest of mind that you were alert at signs of the last days?

Jonah's prophecy was conditional "if they don't repent" besides when God recants he will inform his prophets before the appointed date about his decision.

chukwudi44: The fact remains anyone who claims to prophesy in the name of the Lord and it does not come to pass is a failed prophet.

At least when God reoented he informed him before the day of the prophecy.

.Why did the Jw wait for theb prophecies to fail b4 recanting

ijawkid:


If witnesses in d past due to lil mis-understanding of bible chronology drew into conclusion when an end will come how does that make them false prophets??

Today we are convinced from the scriptures that no one knows d day and hour not even Jesus........

If u choose to dwell on the mistakes of witnesses and dragging them down till today ur definitly on ur own........

Witnesses adjust to bible understanding when its clear....we aint stiff necked ........

Or wuld u rather want us to hug and romance past understandings and wallow in them??

Like I told u,Jehovahs witnesses are not prophets....we are bible students.......

Don't u get it??

We are not prophets........

we observe and study d bible to see how they apply to our times......

Isn't that what a bible student does??

BARRISTERS:
@chukwu

noo sir,

what d you mean by conditioner? does this tone suggest conditioner? it was a fixed date!
“Forty days from now Nineveh will be destroyed!” (not may be but will be)


Jonah 4:1-10,

4 But to Jonah this seemed very wrong, and he became angry. 2 He prayed to the Lord, “Isn’t this what I said, Lord, when I was still at home? That is what I tried to forestall by fleeing to Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity. 3 Now, Lord, take away my life, for it is better for me to die than to live.”

4 But the Lord replied, “Is it right for you to be angry?”


so,how happy we are that God wants to be compassionate despite predicting an end to this world soo

''I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity''

rottennaija:


If in just the past, it would have been OK. At least, they wouldn't repeat them again. But when you still continue till the presence? What does that make you?

At least you have been aware of the "this generation" teaching. It's still based on the Bible. But did it apply to the current GB members? Now, they have force the scriptures to have an overlapping generation. So, till the next 40 to 50 years, then you will know if they are indeed false prophet. But evidently, they have proven more than ones to be a serious false prophet.

Jessicha:


... rotten , if you feel their explanation regarding this generation -- a statement by Jesus himself is wrong , kindly give your own view of this generation on this thread ? waiting ..

rottennaija:


Well... You have between now and say 50 years to wait for another failed prophecy. At least, unlike in the past, someone has helped you open your eyes to a prophecy that has failed before and will fail again.

So you know why? Because jesus never intended for that prophecy to be applied that the way the GB applies. Neither did he intend that his prophecy be applied to some 2000 years after his death.

But at least, you have something to watch out for.

By the way, look at this word "eisegesis"
This is exactly the way the GB has been applying the Bible.

Jessicha:


clueless man , nobody ask you this story .. if u feel their explanation is wrong , present yours pls ?

rottennaija:


Just as jesus said, wisdom is proved by its works. Have a nice life.

Jessicha:


, so u gat no clue ?

rottennaija:


The GB will... Just wait and see.