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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by Ken4Christ: 8:41am On Sep 14, 2023
Janosky:


Oga, carry your delusion outta this forum.. grin

Except you repent, you will likewise perish.
Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by Ken4Christ: 8:43am On Sep 14, 2023
Janosky:


Mark 16:17 is NOT in the manuscript of the holy scriptures.

Nah your mentors who ADDED to 1 John 5:7 committed the same fraud @ Mark 16:17.

Pastor,go & verify grin grin

Let's assume you are correct, that is not the only verse that talks about speaking in tongues.

The early church spoke in tongues.

Apostle Paul in his letter to the church said that we should not forbid to speak in tongues.
Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43am On Sep 14, 2023
Ken4Christ:

Even Muslims acknowledge him. The also acknowledge him and trembles. But they don't regard him as Lord and Saviour.
To fully acknowledge Jesus, you must believe and do the following;
1. That he died for your sins
2. That he was raised up on the third day bodily to justify you.
3. That Jesus is God in human flesh.
4. Confess that he is your Lord and Saviour.
5. Live your life to his praise and Glory.
6. Believe he is coming back to take you up to your mansion in heaven.

Confused and credulous religionist, the one and only evidence that someone believe in Christ is joining those doing God's will in the time of the end! Matthew 7:21-23

No matter what you believe it's not going to yield anything until it's put to work! James 2:18-26

So what is God's will?
And who are those doing it today? smiley

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:46am On Sep 14, 2023
Ken4Christ:

Let's assume you are correct, that is not the only verse that talks about speaking in tongues. The early church spoke in tongues.
Apostle Paul in his letter to the church said that we should not forbid to speak in tongues.

What exactly is the essence of speaking in tongues?
Because Jehovah's Witnesses are speaking in over a thousand tongues throughout the earth today.
In fact your own mother's tongue you will find Jehovah's Witnesses preaching zealously and industriously teaching using your mother's language! smiley

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by Aemmyjah(m): 9:04am On Sep 14, 2023
Ken4Christ:


Even Muslims acknowledge him. The also acknowledge him and trembles. But they don't regard him as Lord and Saviour.

To fully acknowledge Jesus, you must believe and do the following;

1. That he died for your sins
2. That he was raised up on the third day bodily to justify you.
3. That Jesus is God in human flesh.
4. Confess that he is your Lord and Saviour.
5. Live your life to his praise and Glory.
6. Believe he is coming back to take you up to your mansion in heaven.

1. I did
2. You're not serious. His flesh that he gave to mankind and offered as ransom is what he took back on the 3rd day. Na wetin ur pastor teach u na. Jesus was raised as a life-giving spirit
3. According to you. And God is sitting on his own right hand... To me, Jesus is the son of God
4. I did
5. I did
6. grin grin grin... Mansion ko? Detached building nii... Heaven na residential estate?

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by Janosky: 1:26pm On Sep 14, 2023
Ken4Christ:


Let's assume you are correct, that is not the only verse that talks about speaking in tongues.

The early church spoke in tongues.

Apostle Paul in his letter to the church said that we should not forbid to speak in tongues.
Why do you quote & pass off a FAKE portion of scripture to DECEIVE gullible folks?

Your fellow 3 deities worshipper, ErnestNc received a conflicting information about speaking in tongues from the same ghost leading TRINITARIANS. grin grin grin grin


https://www.nairaland.com/7826924/modern-day-church-strange-practices
Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MightySparrow: 1:42pm On Sep 14, 2023
jaephoenix:
The aim of JW as an organization is to convert as many people as they can. Thus their rigorous and extensive evangelism. In fact they are the most evangeslistic denom. Everyday, they use tracts, door to door evangelism and other forms of nuisance. I give it to them. So assuming they are very successful and manage to convert almost every citizen in a country, let use Nigeria. So we then have about 99% Nigerians as JWs. That means we'll possibly have JW president and thus our Army would be disbanded since the JW clowns dont fight. Now the question is, do you think countries like Cameroun that have been eyeing our oil rich towns and cities would back down? They took Bakassi and nothing happened. What makes you think they wont invade Nigeria and annex us? There's nothing to stop them. International communities dont care. They US dont wanna involve themselves in many wars(look at the Russia-Ukraine war). Wars cost money. They only want a fight that would be economically important to them. And no country would send their own citizens to go and fight and die for another country that dont wanna fight for themselves. (being JWs)
Please read properly before replying
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Aemmyjah
Janosky
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They spew nonsense. That they constitute nuisance from door - to - door does not mean they do evangelism than others. The organization started in 1887 and have less than 9m members. How can you compare to Assembly of God founded in 1914 of 60m or Deeper Life started in 1977? etc. They are trying anyway. That other means of evangelism besides door - to - door is wrong is my bone of contention here.


Also, to your thinking, they get that aspect wrong. Though they are basking in their decision. They still have a GB, and a leader. They have disciplinary committees, they go to court. They want to tell us, they don't have anything to do with the world system. And that is a lie.

They are liars

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MightySparrow: 1:44pm On Sep 14, 2023
Ken4Christ:


Let's assume you are correct, that is not the only verse that talks about speaking in tongues.

The early church spoke in tongues.

Apostle Paul in his letter to the church said that we should not forbid to speak in tongues.

Selective obedience to God's commandments.
Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by Ken4Christ: 1:52pm On Sep 14, 2023
MightySparrow:


Selective obedience to God's commandments.

You have nothing to say.
Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by Ken4Christ: 1:54pm On Sep 14, 2023
Janosky:

Why do you quote & pass off a FAKE portion of scripture to DECEIVE gullible folks?

Your fellow 3 deities worshipper, ErnestNc received a conflicting information about speaking in tongues from the same ghost leading TRINITARIANS. grin grin grin grin


https://www.nairaland.com/7826924/modern-day-church-strange-practices

1st Corinthians 14:39
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and FORBID NOT TO SPEAK WITH TONGUES .
Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by Ken4Christ: 1:57pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:


1. I did
2. You're not serious. His flesh that he gave to mankind and offered as ransom is what he took back on the 3rd day. Na wetin ur pastor teach u na. Jesus was raised as a life-giving spirit
3. According to you. And God is sitting on his own right hand... To me, Jesus is the son of God
4. I did
5. I did
6. grin grin grin... Mansion ko? Detached building nii... Heaven na residential estate?

This is where you have been brainwashed.

But Jesus told Thomas that he has flesh and bones. His new body is a glorified body. And as God gave Jesus a new body, those who are in Christ will also receive a new body that will never die.

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by Ken4Christ: 2:07pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Confused and credulous religionist, the one and only evidence that someone believe in Christ is joining those doing God's will in the time of the end! Matthew 7:21-23

No matter what you believe it's not going to yield anything until it's put to work! James 2:18-26

So what is God's will?
And who are those doing it today? smiley

God's will is that every one should be saved. And that salvation is in Christ. Accept him as your Lord and Saviour and you will be saved.

Then after you are saved, serve him with all of your heart. And service rendering is in many forms which includes;

1. Identifying with a Christ believing church and attend church services regularly.

2. Join a department according to the gift giving unto you and serve him there.

3. Be a soul winner. Reach out to the lost souls with the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

4. Be involved financially.

5. Stay away from sin.

6. Don't be unequally yoked together with unbelievers.

7. Live by faith. The scripture says that the just shall live by faith.

8. Walk in love especially towards the brethren.

Etc.

The list is endless. I could go on and on.

God's will simply means living by God's word consistent with his provisions in Christ Jesus.
Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:10pm On Sep 14, 2023
Ken4Christ:

This is where you have been brainwashed.
But Jesus told Thomas that he has flesh and bones. His new body is a glorified body. And as God gave Jesus a new body, those who are in Christ will also receive a new body that will never die.

You and your fellow trinitarian disagreed.
He wanted to chat with you:
MightySparrow:

Selective obedience to God's commandments.
You shunned him:
Ken4Christ:

You have nothing to say.


If you're not stupid why not agree with your fellow trinitarian who also believe in this your useless tongue first before thinking about JWs?
If your hopeless, worthless, useless, helpless tongue has failed to make you and your fellow trinitarian speak in harmony.
How do you think such can make sense to a JW who is speaking as one with his global family? John 17:23smiley

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:11pm On Sep 14, 2023
Ken4Christ:

God's will is that every one should be saved.
So why not relate well with your fellow trinitarian who also claim he is saved? smiley

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:15pm On Sep 14, 2023
MightySparrow:

They spew nonsense. That they constitute nuisance from door - to - door does not mean they do evangelism than others. The organization started in 1887 and have less than 9m members. How can you compare to Assembly of God founded in 1914 of 60m or Deeper Life started in 1977? etc. They are trying anyway. That other means of evangelism besides door - to - door is wrong is my bone of contention here. Also, to your thinking, they get that aspect wrong. Though they are basking in their decision. They still have a GB, and a leader. They have disciplinary committees, they go to court. They want to tell us, they don't have anything to do with the word system. And that is a lie. They are liars
So you now have the liver to speak with this same person who tried to engage you the other time but you quickly discharged him saying you don't engage atheists? cheesy

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 2:46pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

If you're not stupid you should know by now that people don't just wake up and train with weapons only to start going after people who are defenseless.
Jesus taught us not to accumulate things that will attract thieves {Matthew 5:19-21} so is it the common thing in my possession that someone will train himself with weapons to come and kill me for?
Why can't you just use your brain for once nah?
Is this your atheism killing your brain cells?
Ọmọ listen and listen good when you live a simple life in places where others like you live nobody will undergo training with weapons to come and hunt you because what you posses is common.
Do you get it now? smiley
This guy! Lol 😆
Please what goods have the innocent Ukrainians that has been killed, or the 8 JWs slaughtered in your Kingdom Hall in Germany acquired that warranted them to be killed?
You see why I said going near your Kingdom Hall Meetings kills off brain cells grin

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 2:52pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Ọmọ you don't ask people questions and start telling them not to express their views whether you like it or not you came to them not the other way around.
It's madness on your part to call people ask them questions and say you don't want their views! wink
So if you go for an interview, and they ask you your name and you tell me your age, they should entertain your views, right?
You are a first class dunce. Please stick to the topic

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 2:55pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Our meetings attendance
Convention attendance
Baptismal attendance
Everything about us is on the increase
Everyone knows how Jehovah's Witnesses takes their records seriously

Werey will quote from apostate articles
I hope you will find one that says we are even burning down all our KH and our numbers in Nigeria are less than a thousand. People like you will swallow it
Lol. I brought my evidence. Was expecting you to bring yours, and you're still spouting gibberish. Same way you said the news about you guys child mol@station was apostate til MadMax and your own jw.org confirmed it, then you kept quiet. Now you're saying the same about this. You're waiting for your Humble Leader MadMax and your gods jw.org to confirm this one abi? Lol. Don't worry

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:02pm On Sep 14, 2023
Since 1995, the rate at which Jehovah's Witnesses were growing started to decline, coinciding with the change of the Generation Doctrine, and internet access to information regarding the religion and its teachings. The most dramatic change has been the number of hours of preaching required to gain a new member. In 2022, over 10,000 hours of preaching was required for a single baptism, and due to the number of Jehovah's Witnesses leaving or dying, it took 40,000 hours of preaching for the number of Jehovah's Witnesses to increase by just 1 person

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php


Jehovah’s Witnesses have a low retention rate relative to other U.S. religious groups. Among all U.S. adults who were raised as Jehovah’s Witnesses, two-thirds (66%) no longer identify with the group.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/04/26/a-closer-look-at-jehovahs-witnesses-living-in-the-u-s/#:~:text=Jehovah's%20Witnesses%20have%20a%20low,longer%20identify%20with%20the%20group.

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:03pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:



JWs have never had and never will have anything to do with the political affairs of mankind as their days are already counted
Even our opposers knows that except ignorant Jaephoenix
Instead of you to deny what i said, you were tormented
So if a country is 99% JW, there won't be a JW President? You guys would allow the 1% rule you? Yes or no? grin

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:12pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Of you like, quote Dube
Go and find them on the internet the way you desperately find junkie about us
There's lots of them both local and international
Lol. I should go online to confirm an obvious lie you told? Are you usually this clueless and stupid everyday?

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:13pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:


You are the biggest Olodo on Nairaland
See who says that ECHR view is irrelevant?
Russia may not listen to their judgements, it is their own problem
Their view would have been relevant to you if they support the ban cheesy grin grin grin
This guy has no brains.
Are Ukrainians dying almost everyday? Yes.
Does the ECHR (or whatever) prevent them from getting killed? No.
So of what relevance is it to their lives?
You're the biggest iiddiot on Nairaland

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:16pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Your assumption is stupid entirely
We don't take affairs of any politics or social group whether in a country or in a village

It is [b]impossible for any country, even the smallest of island to convert to JWs[/b]
We seek to change the hearts of men towards God, not to use religion as a political tool for governance like the Catholics did

As foretold, time is coming when all the earth will be filled with sincere worshippers of Jehovah and then, all the wicked (those who don't accept Jehovah as universal sovereign and Jesus Christ as king) will be destroyed forever

Let God guide man's affairs
Your illustration is like asking me what I will do if I see my mum or mu wife trying to sell our children... Foolish imagination from rotten brain. Something that will never happen
Oh really? So what is the essence of your door to door evangelism if not to 'convert all souls to Jehovah'?
So are you saying your evangelism is useless since its not meant to convert souls to JW? grin

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:17pm On Sep 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Atheism has destroyed his thinking faculties
Atleast, he's assured that no JW even the one he opposes will attack him
Awon survival of the fittest will do that and religious hypocrites/bigots

Atheist claiming humanity first will be pleased to kill fellow atheist like Jaephoenix in the name of national or other interests

Intelligent Jaephoenix should teach us how atheism will make the world a better place especially in this era where the weapons people are making can destroy whole earth
How is JW making the world a better place? Pray tell cheesy

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:18pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


What they only think about is technology when it comes to human relations atheism has nothing to offer.
So regarding a better world atheists don't have any vision on that in fact all they see is doom because they can't fathom how man can cohabit peacefully with his neighbour! smiley
1. Are All the JWs co-habiting peacefully with each other?
2. Are you co-habiting peacefully with me?
LOL. SEE IDIOTIC BEATCH

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:31pm On Sep 14, 2023
jaephoenix:

This guy! Lol 😆
Please what goods have the innocent Ukrainians that has been killed, or the 8 JWs slaughtered in your Kingdom Hall in Germany acquired that warranted them to be killed?
You see why I said going near your Kingdom Hall Meetings kills off brain cells grin
So is it carrying weapons that will stop them from being killed? cheesy

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:43pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

So is it carrying weapons that will stop them from being killed? cheesy
Irrelevant. For the second and last time, I didn’t say anyone should carry weapons. Please read my first post. And the post I clarified my point. I'm tired of repeating myself

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:43pm On Sep 14, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. Are All the JWs co-habiting peacefully with each other?
2. Are you co-habiting peacefully with me?
LOL. SEE IDIOTIC BEATCH
If JWs aren't cohabitating peacefully why do you think the news that someone killed in the kingdom hall went far?
Did i call you out for questioning?
Aren't you the one looking for my trouble? cheesy

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:44pm On Sep 14, 2023
jaephoenix:

Irrelevant. For the second and last time, I didn’t say anyone should carry weapons. Please read my first post. And the post I clarified my point. I'm tired of repeating myself
What exactly are you trying to say because the thread is against peace loving worshipers! cheesy

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:45pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

If JWs aren't cohabitating peacefully why do you think the news that someone killed in the kingdom hall went far?
Did i call you out for questioning?
Aren't you the one looking for my trouble? cheesy
Please what has the bolded got to do with peaceful cohabitation amongst JWs?

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(m): 3:47pm On Sep 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

What exactly are you trying to say because the thread is against peace loving worshipers! cheesy

As much as you lot don't wanna face the reality, the truth is everyone cant be peaceful. In driving they teach defensive driving because they know everyone can't be sane and careful. Thus they tell you assume everyone is crazy and drive defensively.
There must always be bloodthirsty folks, no matter how you teach people. Even in your midst of 'god's people', there are child mol@sters, gays etc. Thus not all of you guys have 'Yahweh character' or godly. Las las you cant control everyone. This is a fact y'all JW refuse to put into your thick stupid skulls. As much as you and I want peace, you won't always get it. Its human behavior to try and dominate the others


The debate isn't about firearms ownership. Its about you saying people don't just attack others. So don't deflect.
Armed robbers attack you. Same as law enforcements.
As a country made up of JWs don't you think u need to thank non JWs for saving your ignorant black ass from annihilation?

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Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:49pm On Sep 14, 2023
jaephoenix:

Please what has the bolded got to do with peaceful cohabitation amongst JWs?

The point is clear:
Jehovah's Witnesses don't carry weapons so it's strange that a weapon carrier attacked the hall of peace makers! smiley

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