Nigerian Catholic's are disillusioned about the church of the living God and the Nigeria JW are lust in a doctrine they don't understand. How can they be help?

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Isce:
Nigerian Catholic's are disillusioned about the church of the living God and the Nigeria JW are lust in a doctrine they don't understand. How can they be help?

Save your typing blunders first, ode

Catholic say they are the church from Peter, some say from Paul and Rome and very funny stuff. Pardon my writings but understand the point.

I have often times preach and share the word of God, but when I meet these set of Christian it is as if they have been prepared previously for such moments of defence. I also specify it Nigerians because in this part of the word we are emotion driven and not on fact and the quest for the truth we seek. Catholic and jw have system in place to excommunicate, caricature and well as physical attack if necessary to those they see repenting to other Christian belief "these practice makes it a cult". Many are aware of this, many fear this so they just chose to remain, even if their read in the internet issues relating to "Pope god", heresies concerning Catholic worship, Mary god worship etc. Many JW I have spoken with, amaze me by their weird belief. Some say the bible was lost at a time and God raise a man to bring the JWB hence it is most correct and more I wouldn't keep to heart. The bottom line is that these foundation unproven by them, is now their blockage to knowledge when it presents itself.

Bible manuscripts

Catholic bible doc has origin to doc to the right. the one to the left and right has very few text compared to the one at the middle.

Isce:

jw have system in place to excommunicate, caricature and well as physical attack if necessary to those they see repenting to other Christian belief "these practice makes it a cult".

JWs excommunicate unremorseful and unrepentant ones who rejected sound biblical counsel and discipline (1 Cor5:1-13).

"Touch not my anointed" poo , that popular pastorpreneur ,Christendom practice of turning a blind eye to all sorts of iniquities inside your churches,the Bible is against such,JWs follow suit.

Isce , JW is NOT a cult. Pls stop spreading LIES

Jan.
These hards facts are not for Nigerian Christians as they are never concern about where they stand and the origin of their foundation. They are only emotion driven and on facts. Jesus Christ at a time ask his apostle who men says he is. Also the reply has a closer clue to who he really is. But for you it can't move you to think and try to know. JW is only a movement not the bible, it was established through a man inspired as we know them. But the question is who inspired him, what are the philosophy behind this man and movement. Is he from God, does he belong to a cult group, "free menson", where was he buried and so on. By their fruit you will know them. No wonder his doctrine brings with it subte controversy that may just appeal to your conscience and lead you astray. Which makes it even worse if you where and idolater to be converted.

Their are some few lecture that can help you. Visit amazing discovery, Prof. Waither Veith teachings. Help your self with topic that can help you.
God bless you.

Amazing discovery

In time pass before now a king dance till he was naked,Jesus used saliva to rub on a blind mans eyes after washing on a pool he regain his site, Jesus walk on water, shadow heal the sick, songs won wars, matching round a city with a great shout pull down a city, staff parted sea, and so on. JW design their god to a fix pattern and style and you are bold enough to say it. SHAME !!!.

The comparison between JW and Catholic is just as the case of Pharisees and Sadducees

Isce:
. JW design their god to a fix pattern and style and you are bold enough to say it. SHAME !!!.

Shameless liar.

traffwire:
The comparison between JW and Catholic is just as the case of Pharisees and Sadducees

More lies . Congratulobia. Lol

Isce:
Jan.
Jesus Christ at a time ask his apostle who men says he is. Also the reply has a closer clue to who he really is.
. Is he from God, does he belong to a cult group, "free menson", where was he buried and so on. By their fruit you will know them. No wonder his doctrine brings with it subte controversy that may just appeal to your conscience and lead you astray. Which makes it even worse if you where and idolater to be converted.
God bless you.

Jesus said he is the son of God, that it was revealed to Simon Peter by God in heaven. Matt16;13-17.

*** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell
" The Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon has said that Russell was NOT a Freemason" .

Pls bring on more LIES in your kitty.

Walter Veith is spreading his man made doctrines .
But the holy Bible is what JWs adhere to and stick with.
God bless .

The same issue you boost of as God's word are same the Apostle dead for defending as well as the reformers who stood their ground against Rome pagan doctrine and where killed. of course it mean noting to you. Even if they hand the origin bible text and script to you, it will make no meaning to you except you decide to think. All you need to know in this present world, if you care to observe are in this world. The Battle is the Son of the Most High God "JESUS CHRIST" as long as their cult can blindfold you about his Godhood place, they have defeated you. That is where your faith is anchored not door to door preaching. If the subject matter is defeated every effort, method, style and pattern you camouflage with is a waste.

While would these cult group setup by Lucifer subtly change the context of the bible if you care to watch that lecture to confuse the likes of you about Jesus Godhood and everything He stands for, in the NIV, NKJV,ASV and these new translation. I hearnt on of the latest translation is mandated in school now. Let me shake you mind. Their can not be fake if an original doesn't exist.

You think you are God's pple because they told you other are christaindom or what you call it, so you brand yourself special and you meet Pst. on you your way you feel ...... Please my dear what matter for a believer is the grace to fight a good fight till your work in this complicated word is done. When you hear things of this nature, still try and help yourself and be full of pride with " christaindom mentality " you might end up been wrongly. Take you time to think.

God bless you

When you receive teaching from you JW hall, you never told them they lied. You received it. Now a difference one is coming, you say these are lies. A judge preceding over a case in a Court conclude on a judgement base on the facts he has, but if new evidence emerge he studies it in details and that may change entirely his previous position on the matter.

But for a Nigerian JW and Catholic as you are, this may not matter to you as you are emotion driven. The day you start separating emotional sentiment and start a quest for God, your change has come in Jesus name!!!!

John 1:1-3, 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

If you read this portion of your bible do they mean the same thing?

1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.


Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Matthew 3:16-17 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Colossians 2:8-9 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.


Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:10-11 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Luke 2:11
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

Many of these verses in you JW bible may have be maneuver of remove if possible,and on and on;

The word of God is understood better via the Holy Spirit and I pray you open you heart to seek him.

God bless you.

both

Isce:
When you receive teaching from you JW hall, you never told them they lied. You received it. Now a difference one is coming, you say these are lies. A judge preceding over a case in a Court conclude on a judgement base on the facts he has, but if new evidence emerge he studies it in details and that may change entirely his previous position on the matter.

You made a claim that Russell was "freemenson" (better still Freemason) .
The Freemason fraternity said Mr Russell is NOT their member.


In your previous posts you been making baseless claims you can't prove convincingly, what sort of truth is that?

Isce:


of course it mean noting to you. Even if they hand the origin bible text and script to you, it will make no meaning to you except you decide to think.

The Battle is the Son of the Most High God "JESUS CHRIST" as long as their cult can blindfold you about his Godhood place, they have defeated you. That is where your faith is anchored not door to door preaching. If the subject matter is defeated every effort, method, style and pattern you camouflage with is a waste.

While would these cult group setup by Lucifer subtly change the context of the bible if you care to watch that lecture to confuse the likes of you about Jesus Godhood and everything He stands for, in the NIV, NKJV,ASV and these new translation.



God bless you

You are a LIAR because you labelled JW as "cult group", even though the facts presented to you shows your claim is FALSE .
That's the proof you are driven by emotions , not by concrete facts.

My questions;
What do you mean by "Jesus Godhood"? Pls explain .

** What do you mean by:
"these cult group set up by Lucifer subtly change the context of the Bible ...."
Pls explain your point clearly.

Mr Russell is not my focus for now, if you are that curious as your gesture claims, you will find out yourself and not by asking your fellow JW, blind can not lead the blind, personal repentance is the best, my focus is what I am trying to make you observed.

I am not your focus your focus are the list of Souls out there. I am only making you observe some discoveries that could worry you that is why I directed you to amazing discovery by Prof Walter Veith. The videos and lectures there are much and could take one over 3 months to completely digest all those facts before arriving at conclusion. I have Studied these facts also for more than 3 years now. I am your fellow brother Oooo. I am not Lucifer. So direct your anger to him misleading you.

I only brought this topic about a day ago and directed you to the lecture same period and you are here defending your self. The question is on what ground~ emotion, or warri ego. " I no won carry last".

Take your time. God bless you

Isce:
Mr Russell is not my focus for now, if you are that curious as your gesture claims, you will find out yourself and not by asking your fellow JW,

Janosky:



*** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell
" The Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon has said that Russell was NOT a Freemason" .

God bless .

Mr Isce, Wikipedia.org is NOT owned by Jehovah's witnesses .
Neither affiliated to JWs.

The Wikipedia research entry on Mr C.T. Russell ,based on public inquiry to Freemason fraternity, the Freemasons themselves said Mr Russell is NOT their member. I don't care if Russell is not your focus for now, you brought the issue here.
You can not run away from it,now that the evidence from Freemasonry shows that you, "Isce" LIED on this thread .

So,the Russell is cult falsehood and many more lies like that, na you waste your precious 3months learning junk from Walter Veith ..... Lols

Janosky:


You are a LIAR because you labelled JW as "cult group", even though the facts presented to you shows your claim is FALSE .
That's the proof you are driven by emotions , not by concrete facts.

My questions;
What do you mean by "Jesus Godhood"? Pls explain .

** What do you mean by:
"these cult group set up by Lucifer subtly change the context of the Bible ...."
Pls explain your point clearly.

Mr Isce pls explain your self, answer my questions nau .
Peace

Isce:
I am not your focus your focus are the list of Souls out there. I am only making you observe some discoveries that could worry you that is why I directed you to amazing discovery by Prof Walter Veith. The videos and lectures there are much and could take one over 3 months to completely digest all those facts before arriving at conclusion. I have Studied these facts also for more than 3 years now. I am your fellow brother Oooo. I am not Lucifer. So direct your anger to him misleading you.

I only brought this topic about a day ago and directed you to the lecture same period and you are here defending your self. The question is on what ground~ emotion, or warri ego. " I no won carry last".

Take your time. God bless you

Mr Isce, pls make sure of all things and hold fast to what is fine ,so says the holy scriptures.
The junk from Walter Veith can't save anyone, let alone Veith himself .
Peace.

Prof Veith and I have not be on same page on certain extreme personal belief. But what I know as an individual is that most of his fact are right and can help you.

Prof Wather Veit only took the liberty of a wild and a deeper search for facts he deemed helpful to help believers. My dear let me tell you know the only thing a believer has to defend is the gospel and not JW, Catholic or so on. In heaven there is not name of a denomination there. The only things you have to defend now is JW and that is what you have been thought, but for me what I want to defend is that same gospel the apostles of Jesus Christ, the reformer and all those whose attention and consciousness are to defend our Lord Jesus Christ in this earth.

Take your stand today. God bless you

Isce:
but for me what I want to defend is that same gospel the apostles of Jesus Christ, the reformer and all those whose attention and consciousness are to defend our Lord Jesus Christ in this earth.

Take your stand today. God bless you

It's all about standing with the truth, that's what's important to me , that's what Jesus stood for
john18:36 .

You can not stand for the truth or "defend Lord Jesus Christ in this earth" by spreading falsehood that "Russell is Freemason","JW is cult group"

I wouldn't do that for you, find it out yourself, that's the only way you can be convinced but if can't get to the truth on this matter then accept to. It is not my focus anyway.

God bless you.

Some few CV of Charles Taze Russell. from evey day net.

The man was a business man, what much "passion" for the work of God.

He is just a church goer, he like debates, he holds person views as well. He associated with an extreme group who want to take God's place to predict rapture. When this group prediction fail after he has sold out his business, expecting rapture. He was offended and seek his own.

He read a copy of the bible and feels Hell ~ Rubbish......

I have a better view.

Took the bible again and started marking out. This No....,this o.; Jesus how dear He be God .....No. Trinity weird..... No, is not right at all. and so on and so forth.

In fact after my death all these correction must be effected or as a matter of fact.

Let me just go through time and reorganize existence and come up with a more befitting bible.