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Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 10:33pm On Apr 25, 2019
After this achievement American now suddenly loved the Lord follwers in abundant and this man writing skill grew the more and books became third most circulated in the world at that time.

"What a mighty God we serve"

The followers afterwards then believe,that this man was sent by God to restore his original mandate.

Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 10:41pm On Apr 25, 2019
This are not real CVs.
There are more in the internet different from Prof Veith own findings.

None are by interest or fact, I am just scanning the character and personality the you boost of and defend.

Please search for God and stand for him in this complicated world.

Psalms 118:8
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Jeremiah 17:5
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

Take your stand today.

God bless you
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 11:41pm On Apr 25, 2019
Matthew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


This man read the bible and could not understand because the Holy Spirit wasn't there to interpret what was there in.

Of course He never knew God he was just an argumentation as in his followers till this day.

John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

There are only two opposition force in the world and they are light and darkness. You are either filled with the Holy Spirit or you are fill with the Spirit of the devil~(obsession, argumentating spirit, personal pride and egocentrism etc).

2 Kings 17:15
And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 6:55am On Apr 26, 2019
Tim Challies
The Five Tests of False Doctrine


T.D. Jakes says that God eternally exists in three manifestations, not three persons. Greg Boyd says God knows some aspects of the future, but that other future events are outside of his knowledge. Creflo Dollar says because we are created in the image of God, we are little gods. Mormonism says God revealed new scripture to Joseph Smith that supersedes the Bible. Roman Catholicism says we are justified by faith, but not by faith alone. This world is a murky madness of true and false. For every doctrine we know to be true, there seems to be a hundred pretenders.

No wonder, then, that John tells us to “test the spirits” and Paul says, “test everything” (1 John 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 5:21). It is our sacred responsibility to examine every doctrine to determine if it is true or false. But how can we distinguish sound doctrine from false? How can we distinguish teachers of truth from teachers of error? In our opening article, I said that putting a doctrine to the test is the best way to determine if it is true or false. As we test the doctrine, we learn our responsibility toward it: We either hold to it or we reject it. I am returning to those tests today to explain them in greater detail. They provide a grid that is useful for testing any doctrine.

Test 1: The Test of Origin

The first test is the test of origin. Sound doctrine originates with God; false doctrine originates with someone or something created by God. The Apostle Paul went to great lengths to convince the church in Galatia that the gospel he taught was not his own, but God’s. “For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man’s gospel. For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ” (Galatians 1:11-12). Even Jesus was clear that he taught only what God had instructed him to teach: “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me” (John 7:16). True doctrine originates with the God who is true (Titus 1:2).

It is this simple: Sound teaching originates with God and false teaching originates with men or demons.

Just as true doctrine is marked by its divine origin, false doctrine is marked by its worldly origin. Paul warned the Colossian church to avoid doctrine that is “according to human precepts and teachings” and told Timothy that some would “depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons” (Colossians 2:22, 1 Timothy 4:1). It is this simple: Sound teaching originates with God and false teaching originates with men or demons. When it comes to doctrine, if man made it, then we should not hold it. God is the Father of truth and Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44).

The test: Does this doctrine originate with God or has it been fabricated by someone or something else?

This leaves us with an obvious question: How can we know the origin of a doctrine? Sometimes its origin is obvious, but more often it is not. When we are uncertain, we can turn to our second test.

Test 2: The Test of Authority

The second test is the test of authority. Sound doctrine grounds its authority within the Bible; false doctrine grounds its authority outside the Bible. The Bible is God’s inerrant, infallible, sufficient, complete, and authoritative revelation of himself to humanity. Doctrines that originate in the mind of God are recorded in the Word of God. There is a clear and necessary correlation between origin and authority, between God and his Word.

We can think here of those noble Bereans who “received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so” (Acts 17:11). They knew that all doctrines must be compared to God’s Word, his source of truth. Likewise, Paul praised the Thessalonians for their careful assessment and acceptance of his teaching because they understood its divine authority. “And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers” (1 Thessalonians 2:13). Sound doctrine originates in the mind of God and is recorded in his authoritative self-revelation, the Bible.

The test: Does this doctrine appeal to the Bible for its authority? Or does it appeal to another scripture or another mind?

But a concern remains, because two teachers may both claim the authority of the Bible while teaching very different things. How can we know whose interpretation is correct? This is where we turn to the third test.

Test 3: The Test of Consistency

The third test is the test of consistency. Sound doctrine is consistent with the whole of Scripture; false doctrine is inconsistent with some parts of Scripture. There is a sameness or familiarity to true doctrine and a strangeness or unfamiliarity to false doctrine. The man who wrote the letter to the Hebrews warned his congregation about “diverse and strange teachings,” while Paul warned Timothy about accepting “different doctrine” (Hebrews 13:9; 1 Timothy 1:3, 6:3). Both meant to emphasize that doctrine must always be compared to the established, accepted body of truth. Those who are knowledgeable about that body of truth will be in the best position to immediately identify and refute what is false.

Because there can be no contradiction in the mind of God, there can be no contradiction in the revelation of God.

This is tied to a key theological principle, “the analogy of faith,” which is often explained with the phrase “Scripture interprets Scripture.” If the Bible originates in the infallible mind of God, it must be consistent throughout. Because there can be no contradiction in the mind of God, there can be no contradiction in the revelation of God. What the Bible teaches in one place it cannot refute in another. Therefore, any true doctrine must be consistent with the whole of Scripture. Doctrine must never be treated in isolation, but always in light of a correct understanding of the entire Bible. Too many false teachers isolate verses or ideas that cannot withstand the scrutiny of the whole Book.

The test: Is this doctrine established or refuted by the entirety of Scripture?

Once we have tested doctrine and found it to be true, according to these three criteria, we can also see its soundness by its effects on us and those around us. That requires two more tests.

Test 4: The Test of Spiritual Growth

The fourth test is the test of spiritual growth. Sound doctrine is beneficial for spiritual health; false doctrine leads to spiritual weakness. After instructing Timothy, Paul told him, “If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained [“nourished”] in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed” (1 Timothy 4:6). Timothy had trained himself in the Bible and Christian doctrine. He had nourished himself in the truths he had been exposed to since he was a child. And he had never stopped. Through this continual nourishment, this ongoing dining on the Word of God, he had grown spiritually healthy and strong. He had accumulated a thorough knowledge of God and his Word.  This is why Paul called him a “man of God” with “sincere faith” (1 Timothy 6:11, 2 Timothy 1:5). Timothy’s constant nourishment in sound doctrine from the Word of God made him the man he was.

Sound doctrine makes spiritually healthy, mature, knowledgeable Christians. False doctrine makes spiritually unhealthy, immature, ignorant Christians who may be no Christians at all.

Test 5: The Test of Godly Living

The fifth test is the test of godly living. Sound doctrine has value for godly living, false doctrine leads to ungodly living. Truth never stands on its own, but always has implications in life. Doctrine is always meant to lead to doxology, worship, and purposeful living. “All Scripture is breathed out by God,” says Paul, “and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Scripture is not to be known in an abstract sense, but intimately. It is to inform not only our minds, but our hearts and hands as well.

Truth has not been grasped until it has been lived.

Paul charged Titus to “teach what accords with sound doctrine,” reminding him that such doctrine is “excellent and profitable for people” (3:8, 2:1). “What accords with” sound doctrine is its far-reaching implications, the duties that flow out of it. Thus, sound doctrine has value. It is profitable in teaching us to live as we ought to live. It equips us to do those things that are are good for our neighbor and that bring honor and glory to our God. Truth has not been grasped until it has been lived. Sound doctrine profits us by training us to live in a way that pleases God. False doctrine weakens us by training us to live in a way that dishonors God.

Evaluation: The Determination of Quality

At this point we simply take all of the evidence from the three tests and make a conclusion about the quality of the doctrine in question. Sound doctrine originates with God, is recorded in the Word of God, is consistent with the whole revelation of God, and leads to both spiritual health and godly living. False doctrine originates with men or demons, is foreign to the Word of God, is inconsistent with the whole revelation of God, and leads to spiritual weakness and ungodly living. It must pass all of the tests in order to be sound. If it fails one, it fails all of them. This word “sound” refers to health and appears often in the New Testament. For example, Paul instructed Timothy, “Follow the pattern of the sound [“healthy”] words that you have heard from me, in the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus” (2 Timothy 1:13). To Titus he said, “Teach what accords with sound [“healthy”] doctrine” (Titus 2:1).

The task of the doctor is to evaluate a patient to declare him fit or unfit. The patient is fit when his whole body is functioning properly, free of disease. The task of the Christian is to evaluate every doctrine to declare it fit or unfit. John Stott says it characteristically well: “Christian doctrine is healthy in the same way as the human body is healthy. For Christian doctrine resembles the human body. It is a coordinated system consisting of different parts which relate to one another and together constitute a harmonious whole. If therefore our theology is maimed (with bits missing) or diseased (with bits distorted), it is not ‘sound’ or ‘healthy’.” Doctrine that passes the three tests is sound doctrine. It is pure and undefiled, true according to God’s unfailing standard of truth.

The evaluation: Based on the evidence, is this doctrine sound or false?
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Janosky: 8:17pm On Apr 26, 2019
Isce:
This are not real CVs.

None are by interest or fact, I am just scanning the character and personality the you boost of and defend.

Please search for God and stand for him in this complicated world.

Psalms 118:8
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Jeremiah 17:5
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

Take your stand today.

God bless you

You lied that Russell was of Freemason fraternity. I referred you to the evidence that Russell is not their member.

In your opinion you're scanning "the character and personality of the man I boast of and defend" with quoted scriptures you have misapplied.

Mr Isce ,there's a wide gulf between you and the truth, just like North Pole and South Pole.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by capitalzero: 6:28am On Apr 27, 2019
Isce:
Nigerian Catholic's are disillusioned about the church of the living God and the Nigeria JW are lust in a doctrine they don't understand. How can they be help?

which church do you attend? Most of you guys cannot identify with your church. shame
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 9:00am On Apr 30, 2019
Find that out yourself, I wouldn't do that for you. I am not an augumentator..... If you can't find it out, it shows you have built the blockage yourself.

The church I attend is not a focus here. What is important for any believer is to get hold of the truth. That will help him to test all spirit, practice and believes of all churches around him.

Knowing why these confusion exist will make you appreciate and tolerate people better, then you will realized that why God kept you here is to test you and to get a prove of the right character He wants to be with him in His new kingdom.

In that case, if the serpent paraventure return by any mean to test and requires the truth of God's word from you, you will be able to defend you faith and salvation, and not fall like Adam.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 9:16am On Apr 30, 2019
As a believer, what matters most to you are not JW founder, whether he is in a cult or not, or other irrelevant issues, these shows they are using these issues to hide their faithlessness. What is most important for a believer are issues of salvation, the cross, Christ return, Trinity, the great assignment of evangelism, false teaching, bible falsification and so on. If you can not stand to appreciate any of these issue and put your stand and belief on a check. Then forget it. There are others that might be reading and gaining however your opinion may appeal to you; pls allow them.

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Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 9:40am On Apr 30, 2019
You are quick to say I am a liar. Let me give a simply hint that you are blind. When you go out for your evangelism each time, and a man confronts you with much question that you see difficult at a time, you go back and ask you college or ask some to accompany you for the debate and if that didnt work, you will ask these questions in your teaching hall. Every time these occur you will consult your books and study more for more debate.

But at no time have you prayed that the Holy Spirit should reveals the truth of these matters to you personally in all these case. For you, you have no personal conviction of the word of God. Your belief in God is a group one, not personal.

All you do each day is simply "debate"
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Janosky: 10:04am On Apr 30, 2019
Isce:
You are quick to say I am a liar. Let me give a simply hint that you are blind.

But at no time have you prayed that the Holy Spirit should reveals the truth of these matters to you personally in all these case. For you, you have no personal conviction of the word of God. Your belief in God is a group one, not personal.


Again, I will call you a LIAR.
That is what you made yourself to be.

** From your first post to your last post on this thread, all you did was you made spurious, baseless allegations based on sentiments and falsehood.

Read your post above.
"at no time have you prayed that the holy spirit.... ." gbogbotigbo !

Monitoring spirit well done !
LIAR, I hail you wella.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 10:14am On Apr 30, 2019
What a contradiction, you go out for your evangelism without believing on the sign, you debate cannot save lost soul or
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 10:23am On Apr 30, 2019
minister to a priest in a shrine, it is simply empty. Those who troupe in to join you; some want liberty to alcohol, other are tired of others church systems, a majority are the novice with poor spiritual background and so on. Because your system is empty and discrimination has been established by the "Christendom" philosophy when you are hit with challenges you run to seek help in the shrine and other dark places rather than to other churches of the living God. Painful saying these things.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 1:36pm On Apr 30, 2019
These info may help

Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 2:17pm On Apr 30, 2019
These signs are not far from tattoo in Ramos red spot, and that in the Pope. It is a heart with a stab surd. Meaning a betrayer of Christ and a complete rejection.

Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 2:23pm On Apr 30, 2019
The crown symbolism the King that slant cross the surd and the other round symbol same as that in UN symbols. These are load of symbols that may bore you. If you want to study their origin and meaning.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Shepherd00: 2:28pm On Apr 30, 2019
Isce:
Nigerian Catholic's are disillusioned about the church of the living God and the Nigeria JW are lust in a doctrine they don't understand. How can they be help?
Both of them deny Christ His divinity. They are all apostates. The body of Christ is disillusioned about both of them.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Shepherd00: 2:33pm On Apr 30, 2019
traffwire:
The comparison between JW and Catholic is just as the case of Pharisees and Sadducees
I agree.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Shepherd00: 2:50pm On Apr 30, 2019
capitalzero:


which church do you attend? Most of you guys cannot identify with your church. shame
What has the Church he attends got to do with the Truth? If he says anything contrary to the Scriptures, point that out, not his Church.

We don't adhere to Church/denomination, but to Scriptures and them being presented as they are.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Janosky: 2:51pm On Apr 30, 2019
Isce:
The crown symbolism the King that slant cross the surd and the other round symbol same as that in UN symbols. These are load of symbols that may bore you. If you want to study their origin and meaning.
Janosky:



*** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell
" The Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon has said that Russell was NOT a Freemason" .

Pls bring on more LIES in your kitty.

Walter Veith is spreading his man made doctrines .
But the holy Bible is what JWs adhere to and stick with.
God bless .


The crown symbolism , the pyramid symbols & others
" these symbols under discussion used are NOT EXCLUSIVE TO MASONRY but predates the fraternity"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell


Mr Liar, you no dey tire?
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Janosky: 2:57pm On Apr 30, 2019
Shepherd00:

I agree.

It's very logical for Shepherd of falsehood to agree with a proven peddler of lies.
Liars , I hail you wella
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Janosky: 3:03pm On Apr 30, 2019
Shepherd00:

The body of Christ is disillusioned about both of them.

Of a truth, "the body of " lying Pharisees, con men and pastorpreneurs pretending to be Christians are disillusioned about JWs.......
Who send una?
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Shepherd00: 3:13pm On Apr 30, 2019
Janosky:


Of a truth, "the body of " lying Pharisees, con men and pastorpreneurs pretending to be Christians are disillusioned about JWs.......
Who send una?

Janosky, I don't preach church or men of God, I preach the gospel of Jesus and Him being God, but you call Him an angel, good luck when you shall meet Him at death.


You think you are making sense, but your eye go clear.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Shepherd00: 3:13pm On Apr 30, 2019
Janosky:


It's very logical for Shepherd of falsehood to agree with a proven peddler of lies.
Liars , I hail you wella
Lol. The End shall tell.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Shepherd00: 3:30pm On Apr 30, 2019
Janosky:



The crown symbolism , the pyramid symbols & others
" these symbols under discussion used are NOT EXCLUSIVE TO MASONRY but predates the fraternity"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell


Mr Liar, you no dey tire?
You are beginning to sound like a scratched disc, shouting liar lair, but here you are blatantly lying. You mean the symbols which the Templars used predated them?

Pls draw us back to who used those symbols before the Templars.

And, what is a Cross doing in Watch Tower? Didn't Charles say Jesus was killed on a stake not a Cross?

I"m waiting.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Shepherd00: 6:02pm On Apr 30, 2019
All of a sudden Janosky is quiet?
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Shepherd00: 7:03pm On Apr 30, 2019
Janosky:



The crown symbolism , the pyramid symbols & others
" these symbols under discussion used are NOT EXCLUSIVE TO MASONRY but predates the fraternity"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell


Mr Liar, you no dey tire?
You only mentioned the Crown but passed off the Cross, why?

See how you have been deceived into worshipping satan and denying who Christ really is? Repent and receive Jesus Christ as your Lord before it gets too late.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Shepherd00: 7:07pm On Apr 30, 2019
Janosky:


It's very logical for Shepherd of falsehood to agree with a proven peddler of lies.
Liars , I hail you wella
Who is peddling falsehood, Watch Tower which you believe more than the Bible or me? Sorry Man, you are wrong.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Janosky: 12:58am On May 01, 2019
Shepherd00:

Who is peddling falsehood, Watch Tower which you believe more than the Bible or me?.
Shepherd00 baseless assumptions and conjectures. You are wrong 100%.
.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Janosky: 1:07am On May 01, 2019
Shepherd00:

You only mentioned the Crown but passed off the Cross, why?

See how you have been deceived into worshipping satan and denying who Christ really is? .
I wrote:
"The cross symbolism, the pyramid symbols & OTHERS..."

You are blinded by sentiments , therefore, you've sacrificed objectivity.

Who did Jesus say he is ?
Matt16:13-17.
As usual ,you're fond of making spurious claims.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Janosky: 1:27am On May 01, 2019
Shepherd00:

You mean the symbols which the Templars used predated them?

Pls draw us back to who used those symbols before the Templars.

And, what is a Cross doing in Watch Tower? Didn't Charles say Jesus was killed on a stake not a Cross?

I"m waiting.



If objectivity & solid facts are of importance to you, your first question above is an assignment for you.
Go and do your home work.

** in the past, before the 1930s, JWs held to certain beliefs which were NOT scriptural. For examples, Christmas, Cross etc.
That watchtower photo was from that time.

In the past, people of the ancient world thought the earth was flat but today we know better.
The Truth is constant but we MUST dig deeper to find it.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 9:51am On May 01, 2019
When I was reading the post display earlier today the Holy Spirit took my attention to a rear area about the JW works and Satanic operations.

Now what the Devil tries to do is fake every work our Lord Jesus Christ came to do on earth.

You will notice that when our Lord Jesus preach here on earth, He preached on the kingdom, notice~ the signs and miracle with it.....

Matthew 4:23
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

Matthew 9:35
And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.

And so on~ all through his time on earth.
He talked about his kingdom because He came from there, the forgave sin demonstrating He is God, walked on water to show He is that same Spirit that ~Genesis 1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters,

Now the JW are reversing this same act, their target is Jesus Christ.


NOTICE, after Christ departure, the msg was not the kingdom but believing on our Lord Jesus Christ

Acts 11:20
And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus.

Acts 11:20
And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus.

Acts 17:3
Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

Acts 19:13
Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.

and so on. It was this msg the Apostle, Reformers and other Faithfuls really died for and not "kingdom"

The main focus and purpose of the JW is the kingdom. No JW will come to you with the msg of Jesus Christ because the do not even believe on his redemption work and do not even believe on the born again experience.

Their symbols and works are same as that of the cult world without a denier.

Exchange Lucifer in their philosophy in the place of Lord. So they are building a temple currently in Jerusalem to put their god there to atone for them.

Many JW really desires to serve God but are blind.
Re: JW And The Catholic Who Among These Folk Are More Disillusioned. by Isce(m): 10:31am On May 01, 2019
There is no msg as the "Kingdom". Accepting Jesus is the kingdom


Luke 23:40, 42-43 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

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