JasonNOTStatham:

An eye for an eye would throw everything in chaos but, there must be something that says "keep off" don't dare us.

Kill your attacker before they kill you. Self defence.

JasonNOTStatham:
Did you remember the reaction from Peter when they was about to seize Jesus, of course man must defend themselves and their loved ones.

"Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my
Father, and he shall presently give me more than
twelve legions of angels?"

They have never seen Jesus fight before, they think he is weak but, he didn't come to this world to fight us. The thing is , we cannot be folding hands and saying it is well, we will pray for you and not put in work of defense.

if Israel Nation have been praying for peace, Palestinian will be beheading them everyday. But in any attack from Palestinian even throwing of stone to Israeli defense forces IDF, it will be met with death and Palestinians know this. God himself will not be angry for people to defend themselves

Kobojunkie:
ROFLMAO

.so, the they are not too impoverished to pay taxes to their gods of men --- tithes and offering were afterall originally designed by God as part of the taxation system in His Nation of Israel which your gods of men pretend to emulate --- but they are too impoverished to be expected to pay taxes to the government that can actually do something about the insecurity issues they wail about?

The government is to magically source resources in order to protect you all while your gods of men need you to give them your money in order that they can continue to live large and blessed abi?

You people should start calling upon the name of your gods of men when you are in trouble. That is what makes sense since you serve them with all you have.

Another level of Ignorance.
Tax is mandatory, giving in Church is freewill. Show me where a Pastor arrested his member for not paying tithe

Jesus did not come to condemned the old testament but to perfect it their for war itself is not a sin in the bible, the people of God fight wars and pray to God for victory.

God thou given you wisdom.
Cause through you thou as give the correct answer.
Peace.
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cornelboy:
Jesus thought his disciples to love their brothers in faith, friends, neighbours and enemies. We are to even pray for our enemies.
It was also repeatedly in the NT that we shouldn't take vengeance into our hands that we should leave it for God Almighty who will avenge for us.

So what a true Christian can do during violence and attack is to run. If it's a situation where it's impossible to run, then we can only depend on Jehovah God for a miraculous protection.

Shalom!

I will not run. I will defend myself and my family in the name of Jesus. The kingdom of God suffereth violence, after all.

LUKE 22:36-38

JasonNOTStatham:

An eye for an eye would throw everything in chaos but, there must be something that says "keep off" don't dare us.

Luke 22:36-38

chiefolododo:
■ it is better not to talk out of hatred. Whose job is it to secure lives and properties? The government or the pastor ? The president and the governor are the chief security officers of their territories .

The one who is master over you is your protector. You Christians clearly serve your gods of men who you pledge your money, life and time to and as such should expect protection from.

phemmyfour:
Another level of Ignorance.
Tax is mandatory, giving in Church is freewill. Show me where a Pastor arrested his member for not paying tithe

Lol...see this one trying desperately to change the definition up in order to excuse his gods of men from responsibility and he keeps thinking I am the ignorant one here.

Christians need to defend themselves and STOP praying and waiting for GOD to come down and protect them or else they would all perish!

Ishilove:

I will not run. I will defend myself and my family in the name of Jesus. The kingdom of God suffereth violence, after all.

The great warrior said he won't run
Even Jesus ran for his dear life at a point.
I'm addressing the question based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and the practices of the early church. They never fought back or retaliated physically.

As true Christians, we have to follow the footsteps of Christ. So if there's any violence or attacks and there's chance to escape, you should run and also depend on God's protection.

If you picked up a weapon and tried to fight back, you were already helping yourself. God wouldn't protect you. You wouldn't even be a true follower of Christ in the first place. You can even be killed or critically injured.

It's like someone that prayed to God to help him in his school exams and still went ahead to cheat in the exam hall

UnabashedIPOB:
Christians need to defend themselves and STOP praying and waiting for GOD to come down and protect them or else they would all perish!

Love your friends, brothers, neighbours and your enemies. You should even pray for your enemies. Those are Jesus's teachings a true Christian must follow.

You can't pick weapons and start killing people regardless of what they are.

In physical attacks, try as much as possible to avoid physical attacks.. but e fit reach one kind level, my brother, stand and fight...

Christian no mean say make you be ode or suegbe

cornelboy:

Love your friends, brothers, neighbours and your enemies. You should even pray for your enemies. Those are Jesus's teachings a true Christian must follow.

You can't pick weapons and start killing people regardless of what they are.

keep deceiving yourselves until you are all DEAD!

Don’t misquote me.

I said non-resistance to evil.

Corrections:



Preventing attack is different from revenging attack. All what you wrote there are about revenging. Did Jesus teach Christians not to prevent attack?

Just asking!!!!!

Ishilove:
■ I will not run. I will defend myself and my family in the name of Jesus. The kingdom of God suffereth violence, after all.

That statement was spoken in reference to those who flood the broad gates into the Kingdom of God, the gate that leads to destruction at the end - Eternal damnation.

UnabashedIPOB:


keep deceiving yourselves until you are all DEAD!

So when you defend yourself and you you were killed, what else?

Kobojunkie:
Oh, did I hit a nerve there by pointing out that since you serve your gods of men you ought to demand protection from them?

You give them your money, your life and your time so if they use it to protect themselves why should they equally use it to protect you too?

Our money 💰

Not yours 🤷🏾‍♂️

Taking Panadol for another man’s headache.

Eleribu Omo Ofo!

Blitzerz:

This thread isnt for your christianity hatred.

Take your bitterness elsewhere if u cant be objective

But you were not fair to Reno Omokri thought on the basis of some quotes of Names,things in the holy bible.

lakefist:
■ Our money 💰 Not yours 🤷🏾‍♂️
■Taking Panadol for another man’s headache. Eleribu Omo Ofo!

no be una dey seek protection?

that more aptly describes you here, not me. I am simply stating the facts is all.

cornelboy:

So when you defend yourself and you you were killed, what else?

At least you died defending yourself! After all, we MUST all DIE!

UnabashedIPOB:


At least you died defending yourself! After all, we MUST all DIE!

Well you reason like a Muslim.

This thread is for Christians. Jesus taught us love our enemies and pray for them not kill them or fight against them.
When we are slapped on the right cheek, we should turn the left cheek.
He also taught us to be harmless as dove but wise as serpent.

So if there's violence and attack, I will rather run for my dear life and fully depend on Jehovah for my safety.
Even Jesus ran for his life at a point.
Even Paul said "our weapons of warfare are not physical but spiritual..."
He also said we shouldn't avenge ourselves but leave vengeance to God.

So if you're contributing to the topic, try to prove it with a verse or two from the Bible. Are you even a true Christian??

UnabashedIPOB:


At least you died defending yourself! After all, we MUST all DIE!

So when we completely do God's will and follow all Jesus's commandments and we eventually die, we'll be raised up in the future.

But if you pick up weapons and start murdering people, will you be resurrected in the future?

cornelboy:

So when we completely do God's will and follow all Jesus's commandments and we eventually die, we'll be raised up in the future.

But if you pick up weapons and start murdering people, will you be resurrected in the future?

My friend, STOP this Christianity bull crap! The Bible you read even tells you that David fought Goliath, and the Children of Israel were involved in so many wars. Your Bible also tells us that faith without work is dead. If David had been on his knees praying to GOD to come down from heaven and fight Goliath for him without putting in his own best effort, I bet you he would have been dead. All the praying that you guys had been doing whenever the Fulani terrorists come to churches and kill the worshippers, has it STOPPED them or are you saying that GOD is NOT answering your prayers? The brainwashing that the white man had done on Black Africans really messed them up. So, please STOP all this deception and rise up to defend yourselves and your communities before you get wiped out. And I am sure when you appear before GOD upon death, He will curse you out for being so DUMB and STUPID!

Blitzerz:

This thread isnt for your christianity hatred.

Take your bitterness elsewhere if u cant be objective

He made a valid point though, why won't the pastors take responsibility for the protection of the members.

UnabashedIPOB:


My friend, STOP this Christianity bull crap! The Bible you read even tells you that David fought Goliath, and the Children of Israel were involved in so many wars. Your Bible also tells us that faith without work is dead. If David had been on his knees praying to GOD to come down from heaven and fight Goliath for him without putting in his own best effort, I bet you he would have been dead. All the praying that you guys had been doing whenever the Fulani terrorists come to churches and kill the worshippers, has it STOPPED them or are you saying that GOD is NOT answering your prayers? The brainwashing that the white man had done on Black Africans really messed them up. So, please STOP all this deception and rise up to defend yourselves and your communities before you get wiped out. And I am sure when you appear before GOD upon death, He will curse you out for being so DUMB and STUPID!

You're not a Christian. Okay.

cornelboy:

You're not a Christian. Okay.

And you are a Christian, right? If being foolish is the mark of a Christian, then I am NOT a Christian. But I am sure you're NOT the decider of who is a Christian and who is not. You do NOT possess such power or authority!

UnabashedIPOB:


And you are a Christian, right? If being foolish is the mark of a Christian, then I am NOT a Christian. But I am sure you're NOT the decider of who is a Christian and who is not. You do NOT possess such power or authority!

Lol the Bible is the standard for a true Christian. You can't just cherry pick what suits you from the scripture.

JasonNOTStatham:

An eye for an eye would throw everything in chaos but, there must be something that says "keep off" don't dare us.

/

You shout and worship the God of Israel.

So look up how Israel defends herself.

Of course not through prayers and fasting nor disturbing the whole neighborhood early morning with speaking in tongues gibberish.

/

Kevineleven:


He made a valid point though, why won't the pastors take responsibility for the protection of the members.

He made no point.

If you have no idea how a religion or lifestyle operates, its better to keep quiet rather than ask foolish questions.

Did the bible tell christians that pastor is responsible for their security on earth?

Blitzerz:
He made no point. If you have no idea how a religion or lifestyle operates, its better to keep quiet rather than ask foolish questions. Did the bible tell christians that pastor is responsible for their security on earth?

See this is again how you spot the religious ninnies from those who in fact know Scripture. The Levities were the Law enforcement agents in the Land of Israel. They were not only in charge of the temple, collecting Taxes — tithes, offerings, vows, etc. — but also of the Legal arm of the government in Israel—enforcing God's Law, and maintaining safety was part of their duties in the land. Recall it was the Levites who judged and sentenced Jesus Christ and even determined if He had to be killed or not. They even considered a pardon to Barnabas over Jesus Christ. That example more than reveals the Levites were not just a bunch of temple monks among the people of Israel.

You lot claim your gods of men are your Levites to whom you pay your tithes and offerings and vows but you never knew that also meant they were to offer you protection as well?