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Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 8:51pm On Sep 27, 2023
Mr Explore2xmore,
You know that I don't run away from discussing any topic with you, why are you playing dumb on this?

Questions :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?



Basic Questions to The Muslims
5. Is the Muslim prayers valid without the Tashahhud?
6. When you say the Tashahhud, is it directed at Men or directed at God?
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 6:08am On Sep 28, 2023
The Qur'an-Only Muslims correctly identify this Tashahhud as Making Mohammed a partner with Allah and thus a Shirk.

In one of their Publications, they report on innovations kafirs have brought into Islamic Prayers.

True Islam – Salat Innovations.
Reciting a prayer (called "At-Tahiyaat" or "Tashahud"wink during the Salat to commemorate Prophets Muhammad and Abraham and their families and friends!
The Quran commands believers to dedicate their Salat and all worship practices to the name of God alone (Qur'an 6:162, Qur'an 20:14). To praise or commemorate any other name during the Salat immediately invalidates the Salat and turns it into an act of shirk. Reciting a corrupt Shahada during Salat: God gave us the correct Shahada (Testimony) in the Quran (3:18).

The Quranic Shahada is the one uttered by God Himself, the angels and all those endowed with knowledge.
The corrupt innovation of adding the name of Muhammad to the Shahada is once again, an act of shirk. This corrupt Shahada is uttered during the Salat when the Quranic Shahada should be recited instead.


http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat/salat_innovations_(P1206).html


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Explore2xmore
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by MightySparrow: 7:39am On Sep 29, 2023
TenQ:
I don't blame you at all.
As if you have any good response in the first place see.

You are praying to Mohammed as part of your Tashahhud!

Isn't Mohammed supposed to be dead?
Aren't you talking to him?
Wouldn't angels carry your prayers to him?

Most Muslims lack knowledge. Thank God for the grace to research into their lies. I used to know the harassment of Ahmed Deedat and Àjàgbemokenferi in Ibadan those days. I knew so little about their lies.

You will not see them ( our friends on Nairaland) to refute all this.

More grace brother.



Muslims: Why do you Pray to Mohammed?
Do Muslims even have an idea of Why they Pray To Mohammed! ?

Five times a day, Muslims pray both to Mohammed and Allah. Yes, you got me right!
Five times a day when Muslims pray they do the Tashahhud.

The Tashahhud (Arabic: تَشَهُّد, meaning "testimony [of faith]"wink, also known as at-Tahiyyat (Arabic: ٱلتَّحِيَّات), is the portion of the Muslim prayer where the person kneels or sits on the ground facing the qibla, glorifies God, and greets the messenger and the righteous people of God followed by the two testimonials.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tashahhud

The Tashahhud (Translated) can be divided into four parts
1. Prayer to Allah
"Greetings to Allah, and prayers, and pure things (are for Allah). "
2. Prayer to Mohammed
Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings (are on you).
3. Declaration of Hope to the Muslim Ummah
Peace be upon us, and upon the righteous servants of Allah.
4. The Shahada: Statement of Faith
I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger."


My emphasis is on Part 2 of the Tashahhud
Just as in Part One, the recipient of the Prayer is Allah, in Part Two, the recipient of the Prayer is Mohammed. (O Mohammed! )
This assumes that Mohammed is ALIVE and can hear the Prayers of the Muslims. Peace be upon you, O Prophet!

In case you are wondering if Mohammed can accept prayers of Muslims, guess what here is a Hadith that proves it.

Sunan Abi Dawud 1047
Narrated Aws ibn Aws:
The Prophet said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; on it Adam was created, on it he died, on it the last trumpet will be blown, and on it the shout will be made, so invoke more blessings on me that day, for your blessings will be submitted to me. The people asked: Messenger of Allah, how can it be that our blessings will be submitted to you while your body is decayed? He replied: Allah, the Exalted, has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of Prophets.


Just as the Prayers of Muslims would be submitted to Allah, the Prayers of Muslims will also be submitted to Mohammed!


The Qur'an-Only Muslims correctly identify this Tashahhud as Making Mohammed a partner with Allah and thus a Shirk.
In one of their Publications, they report on innovations kafirs have brought into Islamic Prayers.


I hope I've been able to convince you that you Muslims pray to Mohammed (without thinking) five time daily as You recite your Tashahhud.
This is Idolatry :
How can you pray to both Mohammed and Allah at the same time and claim monotheism!?


Questions :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?




Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by MightySparrow: 7:41am On Sep 29, 2023
TenQ:
I don't blame you at all.
As if you have any good response in the first place see.

You are praying to Mohammed as part of your Tashahhud!

Isn't Mohammed supposed to be dead?
Aren't you talking to him?
Wouldn't angels carry your prayers to him?







Muslims: Why do you Pray to Mohammed?
Do Muslims even have an idea of Why they Pray To Mohammed! ?

Five times a day, Muslims pray both to Mohammed and Allah. Yes, you got me right!
Five times a day when Muslims pray they do the Tashahhud.

The Tashahhud (Arabic: تَشَهُّد, meaning "testimony [of faith]"wink, also known as at-Tahiyyat (Arabic: ٱلتَّحِيَّات), is the portion of the Muslim prayer where the person kneels or sits on the ground facing the qibla, glorifies God, and greets the messenger and the righteous people of God followed by the two testimonials.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tashahhud

The Tashahhud (Translated) can be divided into four parts
1. Prayer to Allah
"Greetings to Allah, and prayers, and pure things (are for Allah). "
2. Prayer to Mohammed
Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings (are on you).
3. Declaration of Hope to the Muslim Ummah
Peace be upon us, and upon the righteous servants of Allah.
4. The Shahada: Statement of Faith
I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger."


My emphasis is on Part 2 of the Tashahhud
Just as in Part One, the recipient of the Prayer is Allah, in Part Two, the recipient of the Prayer is Mohammed. (O Mohammed! )
This assumes that Mohammed is ALIVE and can hear the Prayers of the Muslims. Peace be upon you, O Prophet!

In case you are wondering if Mohammed can accept prayers of Muslims, guess what here is a Hadith that proves it.

Sunan Abi Dawud 1047
Narrated Aws ibn Aws:
The Prophet said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; on it Adam was created, on it he died, on it the last trumpet will be blown, and on it the shout will be made, so invoke more blessings on me that day, for your blessings will be submitted to me. The people asked: Messenger of Allah, how can it be that our blessings will be submitted to you while your body is decayed? He replied: Allah, the Exalted, has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of Prophets.


Just as the Prayers of Muslims would be submitted to Allah, the Prayers of Muslims will also be submitted to Mohammed!


The Qur'an-Only Muslims correctly identify this Tashahhud as Making Mohammed a partner with Allah and thus a Shirk.
In one of their Publications, they report on innovations kafirs have brought into Islamic Prayers.


I hope I've been able to convince you that you Muslims pray to Mohammed (without thinking) five time daily as You recite your Tashahhud.
This is Idolatry :
How can you pray to both Mohammed and Allah at the same time and claim monotheism!?


Questions :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?




Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
Cc:

All my Friends on Nairaland:
LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, aekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, atsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana , compton11, Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore Akinbahm , IMEI , FATHAT , talk2hb1 , iamrealdeji , Encyclopedia1 , SWATMan rolams aheeqilmaktoom , Bintdawood , Flanker , Raheeqilmaktoom , rolams ,honesttalk21 , Negroid001 , Nvestor02 , Coolsat, iamrealdeji madridguy Almunjid MohammadSAW , STRI1 Explore2xmore satmaniac Ohyoudidnt , 4islam ThatFairGuy1 BroOptimist. Bakrabas. Musa95 Ibrahimlagosian Explore2xmore
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Most Muslims lack knowledge. Thank God for the grace to research into their lies. I used to know the harassment of Ahmed Deedat and Àjàgbemokenferi in Ibadan those days. I knew so little about their lies.

You will not see them ( our friends on Nairaland) to refute all this.

More grace brother.
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 8:51am On Sep 29, 2023
MightySparrow:


Most Muslims lack knowledge. Thank God for the grace to research into their lies. I used to know the harassment of Ahmed Deedat and Àjàgbemokenferi in Ibadan those days. I knew so little about their lies.

You will not see them ( our friends on Nairaland) to refute all this.

More grace brother.
Thanks Bro!

Ahmed Deedat almost succeeded in converting me to a Muslim while I was school with his sarcastic tear-down of the bible and Christian doctrine.
I thank God I had the good sense to acquire a Qur'an and start reading before reciting the shahada. The Qur'an turned me back to Christ.

I would probably have by now swallowed the Deception of Allah and His Mohammed and be violently contending with Christians using the Spirit of Islam.

You can see how they have chosen to become silent.

Mohammed is a substitute for the Messiah : I pray God Himself open their eyes!
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by MightySparrow: 9:51am On Sep 29, 2023
TenQ:

Thanks Bro!

Ahmed Deedat almost succeeded in converting me to a Muslim while I was school with his sarcastic tear-down of the bible and Christian doctrine.
I thank God I had the good sense to acquire a Qur'an and start reading before reciting the shahada. The Qur'an turned me back to Christ.

I would probably have by now swallowed the Deception of Allah and His Mohammed and be violently contending with Christians using the Spirit of Islam.

You can see how they have chosen to become silent.

Mohammed is a substitute for the Messiah : I pray God Himself open their eyes!

A friend whose father was a told me about a discussion between one Pastor shoroosh and Ahmed Deedat while in the university. I watched the debate, though I knew so little about Christianity at that time. I was familiar with Àjàgbemokenferi in Ibadan, another confusionist like one sheikh Adepoju. I watch his debates as like Zakir Nail, gather illiterates who echo Allahu Akbar, while he displays stupidity.

My friend Antichristian will not come to defend these Hadiths now.
Summary of the Hadith: Mohammed= Allah.
Allah = Mohammed
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 12:15pm On Sep 29, 2023
MightySparrow:


A friend whose father was a told me about a discussion between one Pastor shoroosh and Ahmed Deedat while in the university. I watched the debate, though I knew so little about Christianity at that time. I was familiar with Àjàgbemokenferi in Ibadan, another confusionist like one sheikh Adepoju. I watch his debates as like Zakir Nail, gather illiterates who echo Allahu Akbar, while he displays stupidity.

My friend Antichristian will not come to defend these Hadiths now.
Summary of the Hadith: Mohammed= Allah.
Allah = Mohammed
I thought Àjàgbemokenferi claimed he became a Christian at a time. He said it was during the crusade of Reinhard Bonke at Ilorin. So, non of it was true it was all fabrication. If you heard this man's testimony of how he shot a charm to Evangelist Bonke on the stage to kill him to no avail till he was capture by God. He went about from church to church giving this testimony. Is his real name not Abdulganiyu ?

Islam succeed only through deception of both themselves and others.

Islam came on the ladder of Judaism and Christianity only to remove the ladder after it became successful for Mohammed.
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by MightySparrow: 12:52pm On Sep 29, 2023
TenQ:

I thought Àjàgbemokenferi claimed he became a Christian at a time. He said it was during the crusade of Reinhard Bonke at Ilorin. So, non of it was true it was all fabrication. If you heard this man's testimony of how he shot a charm to Evangelist Bonke on the stage to kill him to no avail till he was capture by God. He went about from church to church giving this testimony. Is his real name not Abdulganiyu ?



Islam succeed only through deception of both themselves and others.

I didn't hear that he became a Christian. I left Ibadan for a while,I think I heard about his death later.

Islam started with lies, nurtured by lies and sustained by lies. Whenever lies are not welcome, they resort to violence.

Islam came on the ladder of Judaism and Christianity only to remove the ladder after it became successful for Mohammed.



No, this one is Abdulazeez.
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 1:21pm On Sep 29, 2023
MightySparrow:




No, this one is Abdulazeez.
Maybe he's a different Ajagbemokeferi.

Sheikh Adepoju is even less knowledgeable. When they ask him questions relating to Islam, can he hardly responds. He likes to bring Christians who are not knowledgeable in the scriptures to make a fool of their understanding before the Muslim ummah!

AntiChristian always quotes the website of this Muslim who calls himself a former pastor. (Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman)

I have searched everywhere, no one seems to know the church he pastored not where he did his seminary training. But he is there fooling Muslims about his knowledge.


If Allah and his prophet Muhammad could incorporate Jewish children bedtime stories of HOW king Solomon Died and for one whole year and no one discovered his death and Solomon's flying carpet and Solomons magic ring. You wonder who truly Allah is!
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by MightySparrow: 1:35pm On Sep 29, 2023
TenQ:

Maybe he's a different Ajagbemokeferi.

Sheikh Adepoju is even less knowledgeable. When they ask him questions relating to Islam, can he hardly responds. He likes to bring Christians who are not knowledgeable in the scriptures to make a fool of their understanding before the Muslim ummah!

AntiChristian always quotes the website of this Muslim who calls himself a former pastor. (Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman)

I have searched everywhere, no one seems to know the church he pastored not where he did his seminary training. But he is there fooling Muslims about his knowledge.


If Allah and his prophet Muhammad could incorporate Jewish children bedtime stories of HOW king Solomon Died and for one whole year and no one discovered his death and Solomon's flying carpet
and Solomons magic ring. You wonder who truly Allah is!

I have seen Antichristian quoting the man. I will also research the man.

It was on Christian Prince programme I learned about King Solomon's death. The Hadith says he diẹd standing. He diẹd standing for one year. Solomon army of ants also!!
Arabian Nights story!
Islam and folktales Sha.
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 1:46pm On Sep 29, 2023
MightySparrow:


I have seen Antichristian quoting the man. I will also research the man.

It was on Christian Prince programme I learned about King Solomon's death. The Hadith says he diẹd standing. He diẹd standing for one year. Solomon army of ants also!!
Arabian Nights story!
Islam and folktales Sha.
Unfortunately,
The 419 Mohammed asked Muslims not to ask questions about what he claimed was from Allah!

The same thing he did when he received the Satanic Verses. If Mohammed had asked questions, please he would have known that God would never allow the intercession of idols.

Only God knows how much of the Qur'an was personally dictated by satan to Mohammed.

Remember that Mohammed said:
Satan commands him but only for good!
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by MightySparrow: 1:58pm On Sep 29, 2023
TenQ:

Unfortunately,
The 419 Mohammed asked Muslims not to ask questions about what he claimed was from Allah!

The same thing he did when he received the Satanic Verses. If Mohammed had asked questions, please he would have known that God would never allow the intercession of idols.

Only God knows how much of the Qur'an was personally dictated by satan to Mohammed.

Remember that Mohammed said:
Satan commands him but only for good!

A whole lot by Satan!


How would Allah ask to take his son's wife? How would Allah ask him to rewrite the story of Israelites dutifully documented mix them with Arabian nights storys. How could Allah asked him to say that the father of Virgin Mary was Imran?
The story of sucking of breast by adults and the rest.
So many ugly things that their sheikh's are ashamed of saying publicly.

I think the Quran was produced by Satan, Mohammed and a Jew or somebody who knew the Jewish scriptures.
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 2:17pm On Sep 29, 2023
MightySparrow:


A whole lot by Satan!


How would Allah ask to take his son's wife? How would Allah ask him to rewrite the story of Israelites dutifully documented mix them with Arabian nights storys. How could Allah asked him to say that the father of Virgin Mary was Imran?
The story of sucking of breast by adults and the rest.
So many ugly things that their sheikh's are ashamed of saying publicly.

I think the Quran was produced by Satan, Mohammed and a Jew or somebody who knew the Jewish scriptures.
Meaning that we have a Trinity of Allah, the Satan and Mohammed switching roles at will to mislead dumbbut stubborn and simple hearted Arabs.

There are too many things that are off. Christian Prince is of the opinion that the earlier parts of the Qur'an was written by Waraqa himself and that Mohammed was his illegitimate son. I can't confirm this but it looks plausible!
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 6:55am On Sep 30, 2023
They prefer to have Mohammed as the assistant Allah than answering questions for the benefit of their souls.

Unanswered Basic Questions to The Muslims :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?
5. Is the Muslim prayers valid without the Tashahhud?
6. When you say the Tashahhud, is it directed at Men or directed at God?
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by Qasim6(m): 11:05am On Oct 01, 2023
TenQ:
They prefer to have Mohammed as the assistant Allah than answering questions for the benefit of their souls.

Unanswered Basic Questions to The Muslims :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?
5. Is the Muslim prayers valid without the Tashahhud?
6. When you say the Tashahhud, is it directed at Men or directed at God?

Why are you making a fool of yourself?

We all know your religion paulinity is built on lies and that forgery of a book you call scripture. Don't assume we are like that.

We are clear of rubbish and nonsense.

Why did you not translate this part "Peace be upon us, and upon the righteous servants of Allah." as Muslims are praying to themselves?
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 2:17pm On Oct 01, 2023
Qasim6:


Why are you making a fool of yourself?

We all know your religion paulinity is built on lies and that forgery of a book you call scripture. Don't assume we are like that.

We are clear of rubbish and nonsense.

Why did you not translate this part "Peace be upon us, and upon the righteous servants of Allah." as Muslims are praying to themselves?
Sorry for getting under your skin with my post.

I would like to ask to a basic question :
1. Is the Tashahhud said as part of prayers or not?

Thank you sir
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by youngdroly(m): 6:12pm On Oct 04, 2023
MightySparrow:


Most Muslims lack knowledge. Thank God for the grace to research into their lies. I used to know the harassment of Ahmed Deedat and Àjàgbemokenferi in Ibadan those days. I knew so little about their lies.

You will not see them ( our friends on Nairaland) to refute all this.

More grace brother.
All this rubbish you copied from wikipedia confusing yourself trying to prove a point will only get you confused not a true Muslim. Hit me up on WhatsApp if you want to know the truth 0. 8 0 6 4 5 1 6 4 9 2
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by MightySparrow: 6:19pm On Oct 04, 2023
youngdroly:

All this rubbish you copied from wikipedia confusing yourself trying to prove a point will only get you confused not a true Muslim. Hit me up on WhatsApp if you want to know the truth 0. 8 0 6 4 5 1 6 4 9 2

Abdulazeez Àjàgbemokenferi is not a true Muslim. Something is wrong with you. I was watching his broadcasts those days with other two clowns Mashad power and one fellow like that his mosque is overgrown with weeds.

What makes a true Muslim?

Whatever truth you know let everybody also know it on Nairaland.
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 7:46pm On Oct 04, 2023
youngdroly:

All this rubbish you copied from wikipedia confusing yourself trying to prove a point will only get you confused not a true Muslim. Hit me up on WhatsApp if you want to know the truth 0. 8 0 6 4 5 1 6 4 9 2
Hello my brother,
Nothing here is from Wikipedia.
What you are seeing is enlightenment through the multiplying of accessibility to information which used to be hidden behind the Arabic language.

In those days, but for me to read any hadith, I have to get to the library but not now, thank God for the internet. We have access to the Qur'an both in Arabic and English, the Tafsirs, the Hadiths and other Islamic religious books.

We now see all the things hidden from ordinary Muslims. We come across lies spoken to protect both Mohammed and Allah. To learn Islam, just read a few of my posts, I then come back to tell me it isn't true
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by ItsReal: 9:12pm On Oct 05, 2023
Hello , you remember the live stream of the muslim chanmel i talked about in the past.

It holds today, tonight by 10:25pm

https://youtube.com/@TheMuslimLantern?si=JBWPA1KGhTq-tkQC

Be there, looking forward to seeing you.

No copy with senseless copy and paste o , make them no disgrace you
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 11:20pm On Oct 05, 2023
But why don't you answer my questions?

Unanswered Basic Questions to The Muslims :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?
5. Is the Muslim prayers valid without the Tashahhud?
6. When you say the Tashahhud, is it directed at Men or directed at God?


ItsReal:
Hello , you remember the live stream of the muslim chanmel i talked about in the past.

It holds today, tonight by 10:25pm

https://youtube.com/@TheMuslimLantern?si=JBWPA1KGhTq-tkQC

Be there, looking forward to seeing you.

No copy with senseless copy and paste o , make them no disgrace you


Why don't you ask Mohammed Ali that he should debate either Sam Shamoun or Christian Prince
I'll be waiting to see the match.

Your champion is Intelligent and articulate and his strength is SPEAKING just like Sam Shamoun and Christian Prince.

The Canadian man asked a good question :

Allah destined and created some people for hell fire: Why?

First lie from Mohammed Ali: Allah's Destiny does not affect our freewill therefore, it's all a test. And in a test, some people will pass and others fail!

On this lie: all Mohammed Ali's argument was based.

In Islam, will babies go to hell?

Is the hadith below true or false?

Sahih Muslim 2662 c
'A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said: Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins.


Can you see the lies on which Mohammed Ali based his whole explanation!?

Who do you Believe in your prophet Muhammad or Mohammed Ali?


cc:
Ohyoudidnt
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by ItsReal: 7:22am On Oct 06, 2023
TenQ:
But why don't you answer my questions?

Unanswered Basic Questions to The Muslims :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?
5. Is the Muslim prayers valid without the Tashahhud?
6. When you say the Tashahhud, is it directed at Men or directed at God?



Why don't you ask Mohammed Ali that he should debate either Sam Shamoun or Christian Prince
I'll be waiting to see the match.

Your champion is Intelligent and articulate and his strength is SPEAKING just like Sam Shamoun and Christian Prince.

The Canadian man asked a good question :

Allah destined and created some people for hell fire: Why?

First lie from Mohammed Ali: Allah's Destiny does not affect our freewill therefore, it's all a test. And in a test, some people will pass and others fail!

On this lie: all Mohammed Ali's argument was based.

In Islam, will babies go to hell?

Is the hadith below true or false?

Sahih Muslim 2662 c
'A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said: Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins.


Can you see the lies on which Mohammed Ali based his whole explanation!?

Who do you Believe in your prophet Muhammad or Mohammed Ali?


cc:
Ohyoudidnt



I directed you to him because you said he debates ignorant Christians which u are not one of them... You are supposed to go to the live stream to show all the copy and paste you spit here in real life.

I abandoned ur matter since the last time as i said it would be a waste of time, either way, responding to you or not... Even english comprehension, you fail at it...


No time, jare.

Look tru youtube search results for debates between samoun and other popular muslims, you win find them...
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by ItsReal: 7:36am On Oct 06, 2023
Here, i helped you find one , unedited, compared to what you will find ob Christian channels...

Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6gPvXukuqA?si=EfvRytgoP2tHNZEA

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0LKgSUn00g?si=k4XTC_JBNctCuf-0
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by ItsReal: 7:44am On Oct 06, 2023
Here another popular one...

With david wood

Full, unedited

https://www.youtube.com/live/3k6MBedWTww?si=IodDFrLEY3SdpyIE
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 7:44am On Oct 06, 2023
ItsReal:




I directed you to him because you said he debates ignorant Christians which u are not one of them... You are supposed to go to the live stream to show all the copy and paste you spit here in real life.

I abandoned ur matter since the last time as i said it would be a waste of time, either way, responding to you or not... Even english comprehension, you fail at it...


No time, jare.

Look tru youtube search results for debates between samoun and other popular muslims, you win find them...


You don't get it.

I don't do verbal Debates because you can't post hard visual evidence and claims made by me can easily be waved off with words.

But see how easily I showed you that Mohammed Ali was lying by just posting a Hadith.

I said :

First lie from Mohammed Ali: Allah's Destiny does not affect our freewill therefore, it's all a test. And in a test, some people will pass and others fail!

On this lie: all Mohammed Ali's argument was based.

In Islam, will babies go to hell?

Is the hadith below true or false?

Sahih Muslim 2662 c
'A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said: Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins.


Can you see the lies on which Mohammed Ali based his whole explanation!?

Who do you Believe in your prophet Muhammad or Mohammed Ali?


cc:
Ohyoudidnt

Again, will some babies go to hell?
Is this not a destiny of Allah?
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by ItsReal: 7:46am On Oct 06, 2023
Lastly, a recent one organised by Patrick ben David

With robert spencer, a career islamophone

https://www.youtube.com/live/VzjoHtYN05k?si=D66VxqWiR9w5zxhN
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by ItsReal: 7:49am On Oct 06, 2023
That's all i can help u with , i saw that a bro dropped his whatsapp number to talk to u...


Im sorry . i no really get time...


U asked for popular Christian speakers and i gave it to you.


Take care...

No be APC and LP matter be this o... Make u no go regret am o.


Take ur time and watch attentively...
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by ItsReal: 7:53am On Oct 06, 2023
Here is another live stream tonight, please come online with ur questions, dont be a keyboard warrior.

Hamza's den

https://www.youtube.com/live/VJiwg4RPkLE?si=hVX7qNAnnXXC5EGv

9:30pm
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by ItsReal: 7:54am On Oct 06, 2023
Bye, take care

This is my last message to you
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 8:06am On Oct 06, 2023
ItsReal:
Here is another live stream tonight, please come online with ur questions, dont be a keyboard warrior.

Hamza's den

https://www.youtube.com/live/VJiwg4RPkLE?si=hVX7qNAnnXXC5EGv

9:30pm
I am a keyboard specialist because I easily Debunk the lies of Islam from the religious books of the Hadiths, the Qur'an, the Truth the Tafairs and historical books of Muslims.

I post the Evidences that mere words don't dispel.

Have I not shown you just from the hadith that your champion Mohammed Ali is a Liar?

You have no response to this!
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 8:07am On Oct 06, 2023
ItsReal:
That's all i can help u with , i saw that a bro dropped his whatsapp number to talk to u...


Im sorry . i no really get time...


U asked for popular Christian speakers and i gave it to you.


Take care...

No be APC and LP matter be this o... Make u no go regret am o.


Take ur time and watch attentively...
Who is the person on whatsapp that want to chat with me?

Perhaps you can remind me of him
Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by TenQ: 7:44pm On Oct 06, 2023
Muslims: Why do you Pray to Mohammed?
Do Muslims even have an idea of Why they Pray To Mohammed! ?

Five times a day, Muslims pray both to Mohammed and Allah. Yes, you got me right!
Five times a day when Muslims pray they do the Tashahhud.

The Tashahhud (Arabic: تَشَهُّد, meaning "testimony [of faith]"wink, also known as at-Tahiyyat (Arabic: ٱلتَّحِيَّات), is the portion of the Muslim prayer where the person kneels or sits on the ground facing the qibla, glorifies God, and greets the messenger and the righteous people of God followed by the two testimonials.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tashahhud

The Tashahhud (Translated) can be divided into four parts
1. Prayer to Allah
"Greetings to Allah, and prayers, and pure things (are for Allah). "
2. Prayer to Mohammed
Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings (are on you).
3. Declaration of Hope to the Muslim Ummah
Peace be upon us, and upon the righteous servants of Allah.
4. The Shahada: Statement of Faith
I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger."


My emphasis is on Part 2 of the Tashahhud
Just as in Part One, the recipient of the Prayer is Allah, in Part Two, the recipient of the Prayer is Mohammed. (O Mohammed! )
This assumes that Mohammed is ALIVE and can hear the Prayers of the Muslims. Peace be upon you, O Prophet!

In case you are wondering if Mohammed can accept prayers of Muslims, guess what here is a Hadith that proves it.

Sunan Abi Dawud 1047
Narrated Aws ibn Aws:
The Prophet said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; on it Adam was created, on it he died, on it the last trumpet will be blown, and on it the shout will be made, so invoke more blessings on me that day, for your blessings will be submitted to me. The people asked: Messenger of Allah, how can it be that our blessings will be submitted to you while your body is decayed? He replied: Allah, the Exalted, has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of Prophets.


Just as the Prayers of Muslims would be submitted to Allah, the Prayers of Muslims will also be submitted to Mohammed!


The Qur'an-Only Muslims correctly identify this Tashahhud as Making Mohammed a partner with Allah and thus a Shirk.
In one of their Publications, they report on innovations kafirs have brought into Islamic Prayers.
True Islam – Salat Innovations.
Reciting a prayer (called "At-Tahiyaat" or "Tashahud"wink during the Salat to commemorate Prophets Muhammad and Abraham and their families and friends!
The Quran commands believers to dedicate their Salat and all worship practices to the name of God alone (Qur'an 6:162, Qur'an 20:14). To praise or commemorate any other name during the Salat immediately invalidates the Salat and turns it into an act of shirk. Reciting a corrupt Shahada during Salat: God gave us the correct Shahada (Testimony) in the Quran (3:18). The Quranic Shahada is the one uttered by God Himself, the angels and all those endowed with knowledge.
The corrupt innovation of adding the name of Muhammad to the Shahada is once again, an act of shirk. This corrupt Shahada is uttered during the Salat when the Quranic Shahada should be recited instead.

http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat/salat_innovations_(P1206).html

I hope I've been able to convince you that you Muslims pray to Mohammed (without thinking) five time daily as You recite your Tashahhud.
This is Idolatry :
How can you pray to both Mohammed and Allah at the same time and claim monotheism!?


Questions :
1. In what areas have I misrepresented Islam in the translation of the Tashahhud?
2. When you recite the Tashahhud, does Mohammed truly hear you?
3. Is it Halal to even pray to Mohammed?
4. Are the Qur'an-Only Muslims mistaken in their views?

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