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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by ivandragon: 3:31am On Oct 15, 2023
Stricker321:
I have concluded reading the CSU deposition from cover to cover. It is a total of 155 pages.

Shockingly, there's no where the CSU stated that third party vendors can print certificates on their behalf.

Where did Festus Keyamo get his third party vendor narrative from? Where is that coming from? Where did Reno Omokri and others get that story from?

I am so surprised.

OP...

Stop falling for thier deceptive agenda.

They want you focused on the CSU certificate forgery matter. There is no case there.

What Nigerians want to know is who finished from a school in 1970 when that school was established in 1974. Let us start from there.

The bat must be unmasked.

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by socialmediaman: 3:50am On Oct 15, 2023
Naija2023:


it is still 3rd party as long as it is not done in house like Nigeria universities and UK universities

Who told you that Nigerian and UK universities print their certificates in-house?

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by Legalaffairs(m): 5:06am On Oct 15, 2023
seunmsg:


Go and read BBC’s unbiased analysis and how they concluded that there was no forgery. You can also read Kperogi’s publication today.

He has just directed you to read from the two minions that soaked in the mud and accepted to do their hatchet job. What money cannot do for more money will do it.

But we can't be fooled.

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by aylive02(m): 5:21am On Oct 15, 2023
seunmsg:


Go and read BBC’s unbiased analysis and how they concluded that there was no forgery. You can also read Kperogi’s publication today.
. You, Kpetogi or whatever, and BBC are all dvmb

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by tesppidd: 5:24am On Oct 15, 2023
seunmsg:


Go and read BBC’s unbiased analysis and how they concluded that there was no forgery. You can also read Kperogi’s publication today.
What makes you conclude that the BBC is unbiased in this matter?

What makes you think the BBC has always been 100 percent unbiased in their news?

Do you watch BBC frequently?


See something for you to read with your own two eyes and one brain, you are calling BBC and Kperogi!!!

Abi you no go school?

Just sell your soul to Kperogi.

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by Nakedtruths: 6:22am On Oct 15, 2023
Stricker321:


You are deliberately misinterpreting this section of the deposition. The school is simply saying that they don't do the printing in the school. This means that they will engage an offsite location to print.

The bottom line is that the school MUST be in the picture for any diploma to be printed. It is the school that will engage the offsite location to print AFTER receiving a request from the student and doing checks.

This is contrary to the narrative that anyone can just engage a third party agent to print certificates for them irrespective of whether the university is aware or not. No university anywhere in this world allows that. Printing can only be done after authorisation from the University so in essence, whether printing is done onsite or offsite, the school MUST be aware of the printing.
You have strength to talk to people that blatantly claimed that it was TINUBU that developed Lagos. Criminals, liars and forgers

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by ExudeLoveToAll: 7:31am On Oct 15, 2023
seunmsg:


Go and read BBC’s unbiased analysis and how they concluded that there was no forgery. You can also read Kperogi’s publication today.

Why don't you read the deposition just as op has done and get first hand interpretation and not interpretation of third parties.

Don't you believe your brain more than third party brain?

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by DesChyko: 8:07am On Oct 15, 2023
Stricker321:
The bottom line is that the school MUST be in the picture for any diploma to be printed

Don't mind the clever-by-half fellows. What that means is that anyone can just walk into any location and print any document.

Which University grants a random body that kind of autonomy in its name? 🤣

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by hrykanu231(m): 8:26am On Oct 15, 2023
seunmsg:


Go and read BBC’s unbiased analysis and how they concluded that there was no forgery. You can also read Kperogi’s publication today.

He should read that of BBC and not the deposition by CSU, the school BAT claimed issued him the certificate? Omoh!

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by AndroBlaze: 9:03am On Oct 15, 2023
Stricker321:


You are deliberately misinterpreting this section of the deposition. The school is simply saying that they don't do the printing in the school. This means that they will engage an offsite location to print.

The bottom line is that the school MUST be in the picture for any diploma to be printed. It is the school that will engage the offsite location to print AFTER receiving a request from the student and doing checks.

This is contrary to the narrative that anyone can just engage a third party agent to print certificates for them irrespective of whether the university is aware or not. No university anywhere in this world allows that. Printing can only be done after authorisation from the University so in essence, whether printing is done onsite or offsite, the school MUST be aware of the printing.

Thats why I don't like arguing with Nigerians, you people have dishonesty built in your bones and pretend too much. Here was your original statement


Stricker321:
I have concluded reading the CSU deposition from cover to cover. It is a total of 155 pages.

Shockingly, there's no where the CSU stated that third party vendors can print certificates on their behalf.

Where did Festus Keyamo get his third party vendor narrative from? Where is that coming from? Where did Reno Omokri and others get that story from?

I am so surprised.

Is the english language a problem for you? You said CSU did not state that 3rd parties can print on their behalf after claiming to have read 155 pages yet the guy shows you exactly where that claim was made. To add to it, the registar even makes the distinction that in the 70s he believes they started requests and printed it themselves, to indicate 3rd parties were not involved then and their is a a distinction between the practice now and before. So what are you educating us on?? Of course no 3rd party in the US will print an official certificate of a school if they don't have the right or have not verified the information somehow....that is FORGERY, that was one of the reasons he said CTC is a "Nigerian Thing"...so what is your nonsensical point?

You have already lied already, but that is the new way you Obidients behave, if you shout something over and over again it must be true. Anyway if you do not understand English language, please let the BBC explain to you, it belongs to them and it was one of the reasons they were setup!!
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by AndroBlaze: 9:14am On Oct 15, 2023
The annoying thing is that most of the people talking don't know jack about law or living abroad.

Farooq who was on your side but now has to bow to superior arguments has told you the way to go. If you want to prove forgery, go and subpoena all 3rd party vendors and get them to admit they did not print any certificate for Tinubu (in my opinion that will still not be enough, seeing as the school verified he did collect a replacement copy and have refused under oath to call his photocopy a forgery). Go and fight him over his secondary school credentials which clearly has question marks, but stop flogging a dead horse and let us rest on this forum over certificates you wish you people had...at least then you will be better at understanding plain english.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by AndroBlaze: 9:19am On Oct 15, 2023
ivandragon:


OP...

Stop falling for thier deceptive agenda.

They want you focused on the CSU certificate forgery matter. There is no case there.

What Nigerians want to know is who finished from a school in 1970 when that school was established in 1974. Let us start from there.

The bat must be unmasked.

At least this one get sense small.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by Obiedun(m): 9:47am On Oct 15, 2023
Stricker321:


Since I did not read well, please show me the section. I am waiting
You can only see what you determine to see even if you open your two eyes opened. Others have replied to your comments even with pictures. You now have the choice to decide and see what you want to see and what you don't want to see as someone who is well educated.

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by ivandragon: 9:55am On Oct 15, 2023
AndroBlaze:


At least this one get sense small.

More sense than those who support an identity thief & bagman.

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by AndroBlaze: 10:01am On Oct 15, 2023
ivandragon:


More sense than those who support an identity thief & bagman.

Well I didn't support him or vote for him, he won an election fair and square...I'm just a grown up and not a bad loser, try being one someday.

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by Obiedun(m): 10:43am On Oct 15, 2023
You go wail taya.
They are more talking about Obi's lost manhood
They are no more talking about 25% votes of Abuja
They are no more talking about blurry results sheets
They are no more talking about IREVS
They are no more talking about BVAS
Very typical of headless mob.

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by ivandragon: 1:04pm On Oct 15, 2023
AndroBlaze:


Well I didn't support him or vote for him, he won an election fair and square...I'm just a grown up and not a bad loser, try being one someday.

Why don't you try being a grown up with morals & integrity.

You may wish to be ok with liars & drug dealers, probably because your formative years where laid with a foundation of lies & deception.

Some of us where brought up to know that no matter how far a lie travels, it takes one day for the truth to catch up with it, as such, we are not comfortable with liars, cheats & other classes of persons who feel that a background of lies justifies achievements built on those lies.

P.s. I don't care who you supported or didn't support.

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by Stricker321: 1:19pm On Oct 15, 2023
AndroBlaze:


Thats why I don't like arguing with Nigerians, you people have dishonesty built in your bones and pretend too much. Here was your original statement




Is the english language a problem for you? You said CSU did not state that 3rd parties can print on their behalf after claiming to have read 155 pages yet the guy shows you exactly where that claim was made. To add to it, the registar even makes the distinction that in the 70s he believes they started requests and printed it themselves, to indicate 3rd parties were not involved then and their is a a distinction between the practice now and before. So what are you educating us on?? Of course no 3rd party in the US will print an official certificate of a school if they don't have the right or have not verified the information somehow....that is FORGERY, that was one of the reasons he said CTC is a "Nigerian Thing"...so what is your nonsensical point?

You have already lied already, but that is the new way you Obidients behave, if you shout something over and over again it must be true. Anyway if you do not understand English language, please let the BBC explain to you, it belongs to them and it was one of the reasons they were setup!!

You are a mischievous person.

The way you guys churn out the offsite narrative it's like anyone can just go to the offsite location and ask for a certificate to be printed for him and it will be done. Who does that? No university anywhere on the planet does that. embarassed If that were the case then I could as well approach the offsite location and ask them to print a certificate for me and they will just print. That is madness and that is not how it works.

The intrinsic matter here is that it is the school that will get the offsite location to print a replacement certtificate AFTER receiving a request from the student. Now the same school have said that they have NEVER received any replacement request from Tinubu. The only request they received was the Subpoena at the behest of Enahoro Ebah.

If the school is not aware of Tinubu's replacement request then how did he get the certificate printed? Who printed it for him without him completing the request form of the school? The simple conclusion is that he decided to create one, or print one, or forge one by himself.

Amy printing of certificate done without the knowledge or consent of the school is forgery. Simple.

You understanding and definition of OFFSITE location is misleading and deceptive.

I hope you understand now undecided

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by Stricker321: 1:21pm On Oct 15, 2023
DesChyko:


Don't mind the clever-by-half fellows. What that means is that anyone can just walk into any location and print any document.

Which University grants a random body that kind of autonomy in its name? 🤣

My brother, you see how these folks are reasoning? No offsite location can print any certificate without the authorisation of the school...

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Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by DesChyko: 1:27pm On Oct 15, 2023
Stricker321:


My brother, you see how these folks are reasoning? No offsite location can print any certificate without the authorisation of the school...

Which means, there's a trail of paperwork to define if Tinubu applied for a replacement.

- His application for a replacement in the 1990s.
- His payment for the replacement.
- His correspondence with the so-far-nameless third party vendor.
- The correspondence between the third party vendor and the school regarding the replacement.
- The payment trail between the third party vendor and the school either way.

It'll the difficult to not be able to prove such transaction took place.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by AndroBlaze: 1:31pm On Oct 15, 2023
ivandragon:


Why don't you try being a grown up with morals & integrity.

You may wish to be ok with liars & drug dealers, probably because your formative years where laid with a foundation of lies & deception.

Some of us where brought up to know that no matter how far a lie travels, it takes one day for the truth to catch up with it, as such, we are not comfortable with liars, cheats & other classes of persons who feel that a background of lies justifies achievements built on those lies.

P.s. I don't care who you supported or didn't support.

Maybe the parents that brought you up should have educated you on democracy and how it works in the real world, especially the fact that leaders come from the people (i.e. they mirror their society) and do not fall from the sky.

A few weeks back, before the last hearing on the certificate, I had argued with a colleague (another pretentious Obidient) that he should swear that all his documents have his name in the right format and there was no discrepancy at all. Instantly he swore to that and being self righteous like you claimed that all his documents were 100%.


Now we can see that both your leader Peter Obi and Atiku have educational documents that do not bear their names exactly as we know them.

People like you,my colleague and Atiku who pretend that we did not grow up in the same flawed society and continue your holier than thou act while God sees all your acts in private, will continue being embarrassed and shown you up for the pretentious charlatans you are.

Mr Integrity indeed, yet you could not find anybody better to support than a political harlot.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by AndroBlaze: 1:36pm On Oct 15, 2023
Stricker321:


You are a mischievous person.

The way you guys churn out the offsite narrative it's like anyone can just go to the offsite location and ask for a certificate to be printed for him and it will be done. Who does that? No university anywhere on the planet does that. embarassed If that were the case then I could as well approach the offsite location and ask them to print a certificate for me and they will just print. That is madness and that is not how it works.

The intrinsic matter here is that it is the school that will get the offsite location to print a replacement certtificate AFTER receiving a request from the student. Now the same school have said that they have NEVER received any replacement request from Tinubu. The only request they received was the Subpoena at the behest of Enahoro Ebah.

If the school is not aware of Tinubu's replacement request then how did he get the certificate printed? Who printed it for him without him completing the request form of the school? The simple conclusion is that he decided to create one, or print one, or forge one by himself.

Amy printing of certificate done without the knowledge or consent of the school is forgery. Simple.

You understanding and definition of OFFSITE location is misleading and deceptive.

I hope you understand now undecided

Oga go and read your 155 pages again and stop disturbing us.. is it everything you want us to spoon feed you??

Another blatant lie you have uttered is in bold.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by Stricker321: 2:12pm On Oct 15, 2023
AndroBlaze:


Oga go and read your 155 pages again and stop disturbing us.. is it everything you want us to spoon feed you??

Another blatant lie you have uttered is in bold.

You are the one lying here. The school said they don't have any replacement order for Mr Tinubu. I have read the book.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by ivandragon: 2:14pm On Oct 15, 2023
AndroBlaze:


Maybe the parents that brought you up should have educated you on democracy and how it works in the real world, especially the fact that leaders come from the people (i.e. they mirror their society) and do not fall from the sky.

A few weeks back, before the last hearing on the certificate, I had argued with a colleague (another pretentious Obidient) that he should swear that all his documents have his name in the right format and there was no discrepancy at all. Instantly he swore to that and being self righteous like you claimed that all his documents were 100%.


Now we can see that both your leader Peter Obi and Atiku have educational documents that do not bear their names exactly as we know them.

People like you,my colleague and Atiku who pretend that we did not grow up in the same flawed society and continue your holier than thou act while God sees all your acts in private, will continue being embarrassed and shown you up for the pretentious charlatans you are.

Mr Integrity indeed, yet you could not find anybody better to support than a political harlot.


You are so morally deficient that you have provided excuses for why you have no issues with a liar & deceiver at the helm of affairs.

In your closed mind, everyone must be related with based on political affiliation. A clear sign you have a limited perspective, hence, your position to accept liars, and like I pointed out earlier, probably an issue with your developmental phase.

Also, you seem to have a scatter gun approach to reasoning & trying to shoehorn discussions to suit your limited thinking because I do not get your correlation between issues of name changes/mistakes and an outright serial liar.

So because society is flawed, then we should accept liars & deceivers to always have thier way at the helm of affairs & you somehow, in your twisted mind, expect a better Nigera?

Anyway, you are free to continue to swim in your pool of lies & Deceptions. Your choice.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by Stricker321: 2:16pm On Oct 15, 2023
AndroBlaze:


Oga go and read your 155 pages again and stop disturbing us.. is it everything you want us to spoon feed you??

Another blatant lie you have uttered is in bold.

Meanwhile, can you explain to us how your illegitimate president graduated in 1970 from a school that was established in 1974? Neither Keyamo, nor Omokri, nor any of you have been able to explain this.

I have been asking this question but none of you have been able to answer. undecided
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by JONSYN7154: 2:20pm On Oct 15, 2023
Stricker321:
I have concluded reading the CSU deposition from cover to cover. It is a total of 155 pages.

Shockingly, there's no where the CSU stated that third party vendors can print certificates on their behalf.

Where did Festus Keyamo get his third party vendor narrative from? Where is that coming from? Where did Reno Omokri and others get that story from?

I am so surprised.
Where did you read it from?

Can you send me the link?

Or if you have it in pdf format you can sent it to my email: agbojonsyn@gmail.com

Thanks.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by StarRiderr: 2:28pm On Oct 15, 2023
Naija2023:

Read very well before your emotional moblike response

CSU said it is printed OFFSITE not OFFSET printing. SITE not SET

OFFSITE
OFFSITE
OFFSITE

OFFSET
bruh in my opinion you are the one trying to twist this argument to suit your opinion...no offense oo
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by AndroBlaze: 2:29pm On Oct 15, 2023
ivandragon:



You are so morally deficient that you have provided excuses for why you have no issues with a liar & deceiver at the helm of affairs.

In your closed mind, everyone must be related with based on political affiliation. A clear sign you have a limited perspective, hence, your position to accept liars, and like I pointed out earlier, probably an issue with your developmental phase.

Also, you seem to have a scatter gun approach to reasoning & trying to shoehorn discussions to suit your limited thinking because I do not get your correlation between issues of name changes/mistakes and an outright serial liar.

So because society is flawed, then we should accept liars & deceivers to always have thier way at the helm of affairs & you somehow, in your twisted mind, expect a better Nigera?

Anyway, you are free to continue to swim in your pool of lies & Deceptions. Your choice.

Mr Man are you God, that will decide people's fate and reward them for their deeds?
Are you going to stand here and lie that Tinubu only became morally ambiguous in 2022 before the election?

Are you going to say majority of Nigerians did not know that Tinubu had a dodgy past before they voted him?


What exactly is your point?

The only thing that matters, is that in a democracy, there was a election, everyone took part and Nigerians fairly elected Tinubu as their leader. Wether I or you like it or not, Nigerians chose him over Atiku and your leader that came a distant 3rd. For any true democrat that's all that should matter.

But we all know that this Obedient thing is just another fascist movement, so trust me when I say the sane ones among us are not surprised at how ridiculous you people sound. I even had one colleague praying for coup so he would not have to call Tinubu president....man, you guys are truly pitiable and we all know the underlying thing that moves you all, which is clearly not what you claim.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by ivandragon: 2:41pm On Oct 15, 2023
AndroBlaze:


Mr Man are you God, that will decide people's fate and reward them for their deeds?
Are you going to stand here and lie that Tinubu only became morally ambiguous in 2022 before the election?

Are you going to say majority of Nigerians did not know that Tinubu had a dodgy past before they voted him?


What exactly is your point?

The only thing that matters, is that in a democracy, there was a election, everyone took part and Nigerians fairly elected Tinubu as their leader. Wether I or you like it or not, Nigerians chose him over Atiku and your leader that came a distant 3rd. For any true democrat that's all that should matter.

But we all know that this Obedient thing is just another fascist movement, so trust me when I say the sane ones among us are not surprised at how ridiculous you people sound. I even had one colleague praying for coup so he would not have to call Tinubu president....man, you guys are truly pitiable and we all know the underlying thing that moves you all, which is clearly not what you claim.


You have a colleague for every situation. Lol. Keep grasping at straws.

So you did not know my point when you decided to quote me? You can see that you are just a busybody trying to justify criminality.

I can also see you are programmed to see everything through the prism of political affiliation which explains to an extent your obsession with pigeon-holing everything person & discussion on political alignment.

Well, newsflash, some of us choose to ask questions or criticise devoid of sentiments be it political, religious and/or ethnic. We are not blinded by such perspectives or need such subjective crutches to support wrong doing.

But being the morally deficient character you have shown yourself to be, continue to blindly justify lies & Deceptions.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by ivandragon: 2:46pm On Oct 15, 2023
Stricker321:


Meanwhile, can you explain tobus how your illegitimate president graduated in 1970 from a school that was established in 1974? Neither Keyamo, nor Omokri, nor any of you have been able to explain this.

I have been asking this question but none of you have been able to answer. undecided

Lol. They haven't fed them with the lies to tell for those situations. It is still being cooked up.

I don't understand how sane human beings will see a character that has told lies on like 7 out of 8 issues & still want to use the one issue that has some truth to cover all the other lies.

If BAT was a regular public servant, he would have been dismissed from service for the obvious lies in his records. But here are supposed 'grown ups' falling over themselves to say that a serial liar should not be questioned.
Re: I Just Read The CSU Deposition From 1st To Last Page by AndroBlaze: 2:50pm On Oct 15, 2023
ivandragon:



You have a colleague for every situation. Lol. Keep grasping at straws.

So you did not know my point when you decided to quote me? You can see that you are just a busybody trying to justify criminality.

I can also see you are programmed to see everything through the prism of political affiliation which explains to an extent your obsession with pigeon-holing everything person & discussion on political alignment.

Well, newsflash, some of us choose to ask questions or criticise devoid of sentiments be it political, religious and/or ethnic. We are not blinded by such perspectives or need such subjective crutches to support wrong doing.

But being the morally deficient character you have shown yourself to be, continue to blindly justify lies & Deceptions.




Mr Man, even if I am morally deficient as you claim, God allows the rain to fall on my head just like it does yours. The constitution allows me to be president ( as long as I do not contravene any of its sections) just like it allows you.

Now Mr Integrity, why, with all your good home training, do you continue to seek to thwart the will of millions of free people based on your moral compass? Are you God like I keep asking?

If you are not, please keep quiet and let him do his job. Unless you don't believe in his ability either, which I won't be surprised by seeing how pretentious you have been throughout this argument.

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