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BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by Stricker321: 8:51pm On Oct 22, 2023
The BBC was actually correct. I just observed that their report is that the college records were not forged and that is true because the Chicago State University provided college records for Bola A. Tinubu.

It is the CERTIFICATE presented to INEC that was FORGED

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by Stricker321: 8:54pm On Oct 22, 2023
Anytime the agbadorians come up with this BBC report, this is the reply for them.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by Nwodosis(m): 8:55pm On Oct 22, 2023
Now I understand, his records are there without the certificate on his records.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by accordadoga38(f): 8:56pm On Oct 22, 2023
Hehehe

Abeg let the pigs grunt

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by manutdrichie(m): 9:09pm On Oct 22, 2023
And whats the penalty for certificate forgery?

Allow them to explain till they tire
Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 9:22pm On Oct 22, 2023
Stricker321:
The BBC was actually correct. I just observed that their report is that the college records were not forged and that is true because the Chicago State University provided college records for Bola A. Tinubu.

It is the CERTIFICATE presented to INEC that was FORGED


Where is the sense in this rubbish?

How do you forge what is yours and what you legally and convincingly earned?

Was it forged to say he earned a degree that he did not earn?

How was it forged?

In what way?

What did he put on the INEC certificate that was forged?

You people just act as if it's by force not to have sense or to be mentally shallow and unintelligent.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by SuperStriker: 9:26pm On Oct 22, 2023
plaindealer:



Where is the sense in this rubbish?

How do you forge what is yours and what you legally and convincingly earned?

Was it forged to say he earned a degree that he did not earn?

How was it forged?

In what way?

What did he put on the INEC certificate that was forged?

You people just act as if it's by force not to have sense or to be mentally shallow and unintelligent.




You forge a document when you print it without the knowledge of the issuing body.

Who authorised him to use those signatures without the School's knowledge?

Why did he not approach the school for a replacement since he graduated from there instead of designing one for himself?

So if you graduated from UNILAG and you lose your certificate, instead of approaching UNILAG for a replacement, you can design one for yourself since you graduated from the school?

Is this how low you want Nigeria to sink just because of one man?

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by SuperStriker: 9:28pm On Oct 22, 2023
So if you graduated from UNILAG and you lose your certificate, instead of approaching UNILAG for a replacement, you can design one for yourself since you graduated from the school?

Is this now the new low they want to sink Nigeria into?

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by ExudeLoveToAll: 9:43pm On Oct 22, 2023
plaindealer:



Where is the sense in this rubbish?

How do you forge what is yours and what you legally and convincingly earned?

Was it forged to say he earned a degree that he did not earn?

How was it forged?

In what way?

What did he put on the INEC certificate that was forged?

You people just act as if it's by force not to have sense or to be mentally shallow and unintelligent.




You don't have right to produce your own degree certified, it must be issued to you via the University.

CSU gave in their deposition that the certificate he submitted to INEC did not emanate from them.

Once you produce a document by yourself that is supposed to be produced and authenticated by the awarding institution it forged regardless of whether you attended that school or not.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 9:44pm On Oct 22, 2023
SuperStriker:


You forge a document when you print it without the knowledge of the issuing body.

Your own opinion, not fact, besides, CSU and US universities care less what you print on Paper, they are ceremonial perpers which means nothing, all they care about are the school transcripts which you cannot say are forged.

Even if he wrote what he sent to INCE on toilet paper without the school's knowledge, it means nothing as long as he duly graduated and the school as far as we know claimed he graduated with proof in a court of law.


Who authorized him to use those signatures without the School's knowledge?

This is your own fabricated opinion and self-imposed headache, you don't need any school authorization to reprint your own legally earned certificates with signatures, vendors print certificates every second of the day all over the place with signatures.

Or do you mean when schools like CSU send their students to vendors or outside sources for their replacement certificates, it means they are asking the students to go and forge their certificates?

Why did he not approach the school for a replacement since he graduated from there instead of designing one for himself?


Because US universities including CSU allow their students to source their replacements from vendors or even Oluwole in Nigeria because it's a meaningless ceremonial paper, they don't care where you get it from.


Again, stop acting as if it's by force to sound ignorant and uneducated.

You cannot forge what you earned legitimately it's impossible and this is even common sense, but you people act as if God skips the parts of your brains with common sense.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by ican2020: 9:45pm On Oct 22, 2023
He was admitted into the school but he never graduated cause there were some issues that he needed to remedy before graduating

Gaining admission is one thing and graduating is another thing
Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by Maize247(f): 9:50pm On Oct 22, 2023
You guys first said he did not go to CSU, later you shamelessly accepted it. You guys criticized BBC now you have absolved BBC position. Tinubu has defeated you front and back like 10 - 0..Abeg let's see FBI or CIA document

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 9:54pm On Oct 22, 2023
ExudeLoveToAll:


You don't have right to produce your own degree certified, it must be issued to you via the University.

CSU gave in their deposition that the certificate he submitted to INEC did not emanate from them.

Once you produce a document by yourself that is supposed to be produced and authenticated by the awarding institution it forged regardless of whether you attended that school or not.


See ignorance.

Why do you people lie so effortlessly?

According to CSU, replacement certificates are produced by outside vendors.

So, when universities tell their students to source their replacements from outside vendors, ypu still expect the schools to say the replacements they asked the students to get from vendors came from the school?

Do you people not have any functional brain at all?

Stop recycling the ignorant and unintelligent gists you source from your WhatsApp groups.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by Maize247(f): 9:55pm On Oct 22, 2023
SuperStriker:
So if you graduated from UNILAG and you lose your certificate, instead of approaching UNILAG for a replacement, you can design one for yourself since you graduated from the school?

Is this now the new low they want to sink Nigeria into?
If you lost your certificate and designed another one for yourself. The only institution that can call your certificate fake is that university and you have listened to their position on the certificate and method of getting replacement there. Abeg bring the FBI, CIA and NFA document
Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by SuperStriker: 9:56pm On Oct 22, 2023
plaindealer:


Your own opinion, not fact, besides, CSU and US universities care less what you print on Paper, they are ceremonial perpers which means nothing, all they care about are the school transcripts which you cannot say are forged.

Even if he wrote what he sent to INCE on toilet paper without the school's knowledge, it means nothing as long as he duly graduated and the school as far as we know claimed he graduated with proof in a court of law.




This is your own fabricated opinion and self-imposed headache, you don't need any school authorization to reprint your own legally earned certificates with signatures, vendors print certificates every second of the day all over the place with signatures.

Or do you mean when schools like CSU send their students to vendors or outside sources for their replacement certificates, it means they are asking the students to go and forge their certificates?

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Because US universities including CSU allow their students to source their replacements from vendors or even Oluwole in Nigeria because it's a meaningless ceremonial paper, they don't care where you get it from.


Again, stop acting as if it's by force to sound ignorant and uneducated.

You cannot forge what you earned legitimately it's impossible and this is even common sense, but you people act as if God skips the parts of your brains with common sense.


You are a mischievous person.

Chicago State University NEVER endorsed printing of their certificates by third party vendors.

The way you guys churn out the offsite narrative it's like anyone can just go to the offsite location and ask for a certificate to be printed for him and it will be done. Who does that? No university anywhere on the planet does that. If that were the case then I could as well approach the offsite location and ask them to print a certificate for me and they will just print. That is madness and that is not how it works.

The intrinsic matter here is that it is the school that will get the offsite location to print a replacement certtificate AFTER receiving a request from the student. Now the same school have said that they have NEVER received any replacement request from Tinubu. The only request they received was the Subpoena at the behest of Enahoro Ebah.

If the school is not aware of Tinubu's replacement request then how did he get the certificate printed? Who printed it for him without him completing the request form of the school? The simple conclusion is that he decided to create one, or print one, or forge one by himself.

Amy printing of certificate done without the knowledge or consent of the school is forgery. Simple.

Your understanding and definition of OFFSITE location is misleading and deceptive and it is deliberate.

Stop deceiving people and stop deceiving yourself
Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 9:57pm On Oct 22, 2023
ican2020:
He was admitted into the school but he never graduated cause there were some issues that he needed to remedy before graduating

Gaining admission is one thing and graduating is another thing


Even though it was proven in a court of law under oath that he graduated with honors?


You people really cannot be this dumb and mentally handicapped.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 10:00pm On Oct 22, 2023
SuperStriker:


You are a mischievous person.

Chicago State University NEVER endorsed printing of their certificates by third party vendors.

The way you guys churn out the offsite narrative it's like anyone can just go to the offsite location and ask for a certificate to be printed for him and it will be done. Who does that? No university anywhere on the planet does that. If that were the case then I could as well approach the offsite location and ask them to print a certificate for me and they will just print. That is madness and that is not how it works.

The intrinsic matter here is that it is the school that will get the offsite location to print a replacement certtificate AFTER receiving a request from the student. Now the same school have said that they have NEVER received any replacement request from Tinubu. The only request they received was the Subpoena at the behest of Enahoro Ebah.

If the school is not aware of Tinubu's replacement request then how did he get the certificate printed? Who printed it for him without him completing the request form of the school? The simple conclusion is that he decided to create one, or print one, or forge one by himself.

Amy printing of certificate done without the knowledge or consent of the school is forgery. Simple.

Your understanding and definition of OFFSITE location is misleading and deceptive and it is deliberate.

Stop deceiving people and stop deceiving yourself

The same meaningless, ignorant and unintelligent rubbish.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 10:03pm On Oct 22, 2023
SuperStriker:
So if you graduated from UNILAG and you lose your certificate, instead of approaching UNILAG for a replacement, you can design one for yourself since you graduated from the school?

Is this now the new low they want to sink Nigeria into?

UNILAG functions under the Nigerian system of education, norms, and policies but we are talking about a US institution with different systems, norms and policies.

US schools allow you to reprint from vendors and UNILAG and other Nigerian institutions don't.

There's no sensible leg for your illogical and meaningless comparison

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by ExudeLoveToAll: 10:03pm On Oct 22, 2023
plaindealer:



See ignorance.

Why do you people lie so effortlessly
?

According to CSU, replacement certificates are produced by outside vendors.

So, when universities tell their students to source their replacements from outside vendors, ypu still expect the schools to say the replacements they asked the students to get from vendors came from the school?

Do you people not have any functional brain at all?

Stop recycling the ignorant and unintelligent gists you source from your WhatsApp groups.







I wanted to further engage you but when I saw at bolded I knew I didn't stand a chance when foul language has become the official means of communication for you.

Learn to remove emotions while communicating it will help you communicate in a civil way.

If you want to go lower the more, you can decide to because one can take a horse to the river but can't force it to drink.

Goodnight.
Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by SuperStriker: 10:06pm On Oct 22, 2023
plaindealer:


The same meaningless, ignorant and unintelligent rubbish.


You are deceiving yourself.

The CSU themselves stated in the deposition that they can withhold a student's certificate if the student had not completed payment. Why would they do that? It is because they know that if you want that certificate, you must come to them.

No university anywhere in the world including in the USA allows people to open shop and start printing certificates for anyone that comes knocking.
Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 10:11pm On Oct 22, 2023
ExudeLoveToAll:



I wanted to further engage you but when I saw at bolded I knew I didn't stand a chance when foul language has become the official means of communication for you.

Learn to remove emotions while communicating it will help you communicate in a civil way.

If you want to go lower the more you can decide to because one can take a horse to the river but can force it to drink.

Goodnight.


If you are going to argue, do so with some level of intelligence and understanding of the subject matter, not pointless and uneducated nonsense.

There's nothing civil about lies and peddling lies, there's nothing civil about the fraudulent claims that you people peddle.

You and your kind are the uncivil people insulting our collective intelligence with your fraudulent, fake, and fabricated nonsense.'
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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by SuperStriker: 10:11pm On Oct 22, 2023
plaindealer:


UNILAG functions under the Nigerian system of education, norms, and policies but we are talking about a US institution with different systems, norms and policies.

US schools allow you to reprint from vendors and UNILAG and other Nigerian institutions don't.

There's no sensible leg for your illogical and meaningless comparison

You are deceiving yourself.

The CSU themselves stated in the deposition that they can withhold a student's certificate if the student had not completed payment. Why would they do that? It is because they know that if you want that certificate, you must come to them.

No university anywhere in the world including in the USA allows people to open shop and start printing certificates for anyone that comes knocking.

Even in the USA, a vendor CANNOT print a certificate for anyone without authorisation from the school. The school MUST be involved
Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 10:20pm On Oct 22, 2023
SuperStriker:


You are deceiving yourself.

The CSU themselves stated in the deposition that they can withhold a student's certificate if the student had not completed payment. Why would they do that? It is because they know that if you want that certificate, you must come to them.

No university anywhere in the world including in the USA allows people to open shop and start printing certificates for anyone that comes knocking.

This was asserted under oath in a court of law that he graduated and was awarded authentic and valid diplomas, but this fraudulent joker still want us to belive that he was not awarded any certificate because he did not pay school fees.

This is a new angle..

Is there a place in your village where you people manufacture your own tales and ignorant narratives?

You, people, cannot be this mentally fraudulent and despicable lying machines.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 10:26pm On Oct 22, 2023
SuperStriker:


You are deceiving yourself.

The CSU themselves stated in the deposition that they can withhold a student's certificate if the student had not completed payment. Why would they do that? It is because they know that if you want that certificate, you must come to them.

No university anywhere in the world including in the USA allows people to open shop and start printing certificates for anyone that comes knocking.

Even in the USA, a vendor CANNOT print a certificate for anyone without authorisation from the school. The school MUST be involved

Village comedian.'

Venture out of your village before making silly claims on the internet.

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by SuperStriker: 10:27pm On Oct 22, 2023
plaindealer:


Or do you mean when schools like CSU send[b] their students to vendors or outside sources[/b] for their replacement certificates, it means they are asking the students to go and forge their certificates?

Because US universities including CSU allow their students to source their replacements from vendors or even Oluwole in Nigeria because it's a meaningless ceremonial paper, they don't care where you get it from.



Gbam! We are saying the same thing from what you have written yourself. Let's even assume CSU makes use of third party vendors even though they never said so in the deposition, it is the school that will send the student to the vendor.

No one can just walk to the vendor and demand for a certificate to be printed just like that. It does not happen anywhere in this world and you know it.

Now CSU never sent Tinubu to any vendor, so, the conclusion is that Tinubu fabricated the certificate he submitted to INEC by himself. That is FORGERY established

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by SuperStriker: 10:29pm On Oct 22, 2023
plaindealer:


This was asserted under oath in a court of law that he graduated and was awarded authentic and valid diplomas, but this fraudulent joker still want us to belive that he was not awarded any certificate because he did not pay school fees.

This is a new angle..

Is there a place in your village where you people manufacture your own tales and ignorant narratives?

You, people, cannot be this mentally fraudulent and despicable lying machines.

grin grin




This document you uploaded was also trashed in the deposition and clarified by the Registrar. It is not the way you mean it. Check pages 91 - 97 of the transcript.

It was addressed towards the ending parts of the deposition

I never said Tinubu did not pay fees, I was trying to make a point
Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by SuperStriker: 10:29pm On Oct 22, 2023
plaindealer:


Village comedian.'

Venture out of your village before making silly claims on the internet.

Prove me wrong.
Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 10:36pm On Oct 22, 2023
SuperStriker:


Gbam! We are saying the same thing from what you have written yourself. Let's even assume CSU makes use of third party vendors even though they never said so in the deposition, it is the school that will send the student to the vendor.

No one can just walk to the vendor and demand for a certificate to be printed just like that. It does not happen anywhere in this world and you know it.

Now CSU never sent Tinubu to any vendor, so, the conclusion is that Tinubu fabricated the certificate he submitted to INEC by himself. That is FORGERY established


Look at this joker trying to spin my post, sending you to outside vendors means you can print your replacements from outside vendors, not any specific vendor even though some schools have official vendors.

CSU stated in a court of law that the certificates are almost meaningless papers, they are ceremonial papers so of what relevance are meaningful ceremonial papers that mean nothing at the end of the day?

Dude, that argument is lame, even if Tinubu wrote with his hand on toilet paper that he graduated, it is legit because he indeed graduated and was awarded a certificate and a certified copy.


All the silly noise about forged certificates is just pointless, ignorant, and utterly irrelevant.

Say he did nit graduate then I'll take you seriously.]

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by Jallotti: 10:36pm On Oct 22, 2023
Everything was FORGED!
CSU presented a forged transcript!
The Bola A. Tinubu was born in 1954!
TIEFNUBU claimed to be borg in 1952!😂

Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by plaindealer: 10:43pm On Oct 22, 2023
Jallotti:
Everything was FORGED!
CSU presented a forged transcript!
The Bola A. Tinubu was born in 1954!
TIEFNUBU claimed to be borg in 1952!😂


grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: BBC Was Correct. The College Records Were Not Forged But The CERTIFICATE Was FOR by PureFace1(m): 10:43pm On Oct 22, 2023
SuperStriker:


You forge a document when you print it without the knowledge of the issuing body.

Who authorised him to use those signatures without the School's knowledge?

Why did he not approach the school for a replacement since he graduated from there instead of designing one for himself?

So if you graduated from UNILAG and you lose your certificate, instead of approaching UNILAG for a replacement, you can design one for yourself since you graduated from the school?

Is this how low you want Nigeria to sink just because of one man?

It is you people that have decided to be close minded and Ignorant.

There are different ways of doing things in different parts of the world, it is not one shoes fit all. What is possible in Nigeria may not be possible in China or Japan and vice versa.

They say USA don't attach much important to Certificate but transcript and records and the school said it allow student to get replacement certificate through third party vendor outside but many Nigerians are stubborn and close minded.

If the school allowed it who are you guys to say otherwise and say it must be your way ? You guys are all delusional as long as the school didn't deny him Atiku is just wasting his time.

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