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Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by GanagiBeetrus: 7:16am On Nov 12, 2023
Matthew 12:31-32: Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

According to the Bible, this is the sin that can never be forgiven - Blaspheming or Speaking against the Holy Ghost.

Unfortunately, many Christians have committed this sin and therefore on their way to Hell Fire.

Bible Scholars in the House,
What exactly does it mean to Blaspheme or Speak Against the Holy Ghost?
At least to serve as warning or guide for others who may knowingly or unknowingly commit this grievous sin without forgiveness.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by AbuTwins: 7:19am On Nov 12, 2023
lipsrsealed

Sin against father can be forgiven!
Sin against son may be forgiven!
Sin against spirit is unforgivable!

And father, son and spirit are one!

tongue
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Michael547(m): 7:35am On Nov 12, 2023
GanagiBeetrus:



According to the Bible, this is the sin that can never be forgiven - Blaspheming or Speaking against the Holy Ghost.

Unfortunately, many Christians have committed this sin and therefore on their way to Hell Fire.

Bible Scholars in the House,
What exactly does it mean to Blaspheme or Speak Against the Holy Ghost?
At least to serve as warning or guide for others who may knowingly or unknowingly commit this grievous sin without forgiveness.

What part of a human goes to this your hell fire?
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 7:42am On Nov 12, 2023
Michael547:

What part of a human goes to this your hell fire?

Human means humous man which is actually the cloth that covers the real non humous man God first made called the soul.

So it is clearly the real you called the soul which shall be going to hellfire.

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Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 7:47am On Nov 12, 2023
AbuTwins:
lipsrsealed
...And father, son and spirit are one!

tongue

Clearly proving that your understanding is wrong but anyway is it not that like Pharaoh and co, you do not fear God?

Thus, like pharaoh He will answer you.

And clearly all muslims are the same haviing the same evil spirits of blood hungry murder and blasphemy.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Michael547(m): 7:58am On Nov 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Human means humous man which is actually the cloth that covers the real non humous man God first made called the soul.

So it is clearly the real you called the soul which shall be going to hellfire.

Please according to Genesis 2:7 in the pics below....explain how the soul was created first and later covered with humous.

Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by world123: 8:10am On Nov 12, 2023
What happens to preaching about the mercy of God.

Why make it look like God isn't merciful if we confess with our mouth unto salvation; that is, if we acknowledge our sins (Roman 10:10)

Abba Father will have mercy on whoever he wishes to show mercy (Romans 9:15); because he is the potter and we are the clay.

The blood of Jesus cleans all manner of sin, without exceptions ( Ephesians 1:7)

Stop behaving like you know it all, least you find yourself in hell (1 Corinthians 10:12). So seek the face of God daily to know if your are standing. Remember not all that calls the name of God shall be saved.

So watch out for yourself.

Pray for sinners.
Show love to them.
They know about hell;
Let them know about the mercy of God.
Abba Father is merciful.

God bless you.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 8:21am On Nov 12, 2023
Michael547:

Please according to Genesis 2:7 in the pics below....explain how the soul was created first and later covered with humous.

Why are you restricting me to Genesis 2 whereas God's Mind and Acts are een in more places other more than Genesis 2?

Genesis 1 shows that God made man (soul) first, in heaven, before humous man was created on earth "thy will be done on earth AS IT IS IN HEAVEN".

That is why God created the heaven first then earth followed next. And that is God's pattern throughout the bible.

And that is why heaven is greater than the earth.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 8:27am On Nov 12, 2023
world123:
What happens to preaching about the mercy of God.

Why make it look like God isn't merciful if we confess with our mouth unto salvation; that is, if we acknowledge our sins (Roman 10:10)...

Are people asking for mercy? Do they acknowledge their sins? And do they want to be saved?

Many have already declared their love for hell so this is not an issue.

So you just make your own choice and move on. These are the days of the rapture and people have made their preferences

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Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Michael547(m): 8:28am On Nov 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Why are you restricting me to Genesis 2 whereas God's Mind and Acts are een in more places other more than Genesis 2?

Genesis 1 shows that God made man (soul) first, in heaven, before humous man was created on earth "thy will be done on earth AS IT IS IN HEAVEN".

That is why God created the heaven first then earth followed next. And that is God's pattern throughout the bible.

And that is why heaven is greater than the earth.


Show me where God made soul first in the bible. What verse did God made soul first since you are discrediting Genesis 2:7?
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 8:36am On Nov 12, 2023
Michael547:

Show me where God made soul first in the bible. What verse did God made soul first since you are discrediting Genesis 2:7?

I did not discredit Genesis 2. I said Genesis 2 took place second.

Genesis 1:26 shows that is the place where man (the soul) is first made via Mathew 6:10 ""thy will be done on earth AS IT IS IN HEAVEN".

And Genesis 2:7 shows when man is made in earth in line with Mathew 6:10 and other Similar Pronouncements of God.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Michael547(m): 8:39am On Nov 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


I did not discredit Genesis 2. I said Genesis 2 took place second.

Genesis 1:26 shows that is the place where man (the soul) is first made via Mathew 6:10 ""thy will be done on earth AS IT IS IN HEAVEN".

And Genesis 2:7 shows when man is made in earth.
So where in Genesis 1:26 in the pics below show that God made a soul first and later covered it with humus.
Where is the mention of the word soul in that verse.

Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by AbuTwins: 8:42am On Nov 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Clearly proving that your understanding is wrong but anyway is it not that like Pharaoh and co, you do not fear God?

Thus, like pharaoh He will answer you.

And clearly all muslims are the same haviing the same evil spirits of blood hungry murder and blasphemy.

I don't wish to kill you. But you'll always look for who to call murderer!

Just like murders are litered around the old testament!

If the father, son and spirit are one why the difference in forgiveness of sins?
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by 4KNGOATS(m): 8:56am On Nov 12, 2023
The beliefs of christenity is worst than idolatry imagine attributing trinity to a single God is that not blasphemous? And yet one mumuish pastor is preaching trash online. Fkn religion
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 9:01am On Nov 12, 2023
Michael547:

So where in Genesis 1:26 in the pics below show that God made a soul first and later covered it with humus.
Where is the mention of the word soul in that verse.

Common sense na! Hey your parents are really wicked o.

Genesisis 1, God made heaven and earth yet it is the earth we see and have the details of how He did it

Do you not see that is the same pattern with man in that you are and know only how the man on earth was made but the details of the heavenly man have been kept away justt like the making of the heaven?

See the words .

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

"Created" means already done, so what did God create here?

Answer: The Soul of man.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by ReacherSaidNoth: 9:07am On Nov 12, 2023
Your 3 in 1 god is mentally ill. So he allegedly made man in his own image, and when man acted according to that programming, he got upset and created an eternal torture chamber instead of fixing his programming errors?

And before you bring his boy Jesus into it, sacrificing yourself to yourself in order to save people from your own punishment and screw up is the dumbest shit I have ever heard.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Michael547(m): 9:08am On Nov 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Common sense na! Hey your parents are really wicked o.

Genesisis 1, God made heaven and earth yet it is the earth we see and have the details of how He did it

Do you not see that is the same pattern with man in that you are and know only how the man on earth was made but the details of the heavenly man have been kept away justt like the making of the heaven?

See the words .

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

"Created" means already done, so what did God create here?

Answer: The Soul of man.

Where does the Bible indicate that it was only the soul of man that was made without his physical body? Just show me a verse where the soul was first made and later put into the physical man. Genesis 2:7 is the first mention of the word soul in relation to man? In that verse was the soul put into man?
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 9:13am On Nov 12, 2023
Michael547:

Where does the Bible indicate that it was only the soul of man that was made without his physical body? Just show me a verse where the soul was first made and later put into the physical man. Genesis 2:7 is the first mention of the word soul in relation to man? In that verse was the soul put into man?

Genesis 1:27 is clear enough. No physical body was made then.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Michael547(m): 9:17am On Nov 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Genesis 1:27 is clear enough. No physical body was made then.

So where does the Bible say that the soul was later covered with humus?
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 9:22am On Nov 12, 2023
AbuTwins:


I don't wish to kill you. But you'll always look for who to call murderer!

Just like murders are litered around the old testament!...

So that is why you all are murderers.

Wow! God is to be greatly feared o. Murdering is in your blood and that is why you are complaining about murderings.

And God Said it that "Your hands shall be against us before any one stsrts being against you".

Wow. So I can truly say that Muslims are murderers thsts why you peopleare murder filled terrorists.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by safarifarms(m): 10:11am On Nov 12, 2023
GanagiBeetrus:



According to the Bible, this is the sin that can never be forgiven - Blaspheming or Speaking against the Holy Ghost.

Unfortunately, many Christians have committed this sin and therefore on their way to Hell Fire.

Bible Scholars in the House,
What exactly does it mean to Blaspheme or Speak Against the Holy Ghost?
At least to serve as warning or guide for others who may knowingly or unknowingly commit this grievous sin without forgiveness.


Wrong interpretation of the bible that has been handed down and swallowed whole without anyone carefully looking at the context from which the statement was made has allowed the confusion to remain for too long.

Go back to the passage and read it again with the consideration of what made Jesus make the statement them you'll get your answer.

The short and summary answer is that the sin that can't be forgiven is the sin of unbelief. It's the only thing that takes people to hell. So many other bible portions also confirm this. I'll highlight a few.

As per the passage, the usual antagonists of Jesus saw all his works (signs and wonders) which is actually performed by the power of the Holy Spirit and were meant to make them believe in Jesus that he is the Messiah, but they refused to believe, instead they attributed those works of the Holy Spirit to Beelzebub. This is what led to Jesus making the statement. So you can see that obviously it is the sin of unbelief that is the sin against the Holy Spirit and its the only sin that takes people to hell.

John 3:18
KJ21
“He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The Amplified translation puts this verse even more clearly. Find and read it.

When the Apostles were asked Sirs, what do we do to be saved, the responds was "only believe".

The children of Israel perished in the wilderness for the same reason, unbelief.

Hebrews 3:17-19
New International Version
17 And with whom was he angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies perished in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed? 19 So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.

The last passage there nails it. They couldn't enter because of unbelief. Canaan was the representative heaven for the children of Israel which was used for illustration purpose.
So the same way today it is unbelief that would make people miss heaven.

John 16:8
New International Version
8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:

Finally, its the Holy Spirit that convicts people of sin and righteousness.

Rejecting Christ or remaining in unbelief after the work of the Holy Spirit is similar to what they did in attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to Beelzebub.

Shalom.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by world123: 1:14pm On Nov 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Are people asking for mercy? Do they acknowledge their sins? And do they want to be saved?

Many have already declared their love for hell so this is not an issue.

So you just make your own choice and move on. These are the days of the rapture and people have made their preferences

So because they have chosen their path so you think it's okay for them to perish? I thought Christianity is about love / charity
(1 Corinthians 13)?

Have you considered the story of Saul who became Apostle Paul? (Act 9). He chose his path, yet God saved him by the multitude of his tender mercy (Psalm51:1)

Abba Father is long-suffering to human and is not willing that any should perish. (2Peter 3:9)

Abba Father seeks for those who will intercede for this people who have chosen the wrong path (Ezekiel 22:30).

You should intercede for them (Matthew 5:44), as an act of love and not judge them (Matthew 1:7).

God bless you and enjoy the rest of the day.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by capnies: 6:26pm On Nov 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Human means humous man which is actually the cloth that covers the real non humous man God first made called the soul.

So it is clearly the real you called the soul which shall be going to hellfire.


WHY DIDN'T GOD TELL ADAM ABOUT HELL. STOP INSULTING GOD HELL MEANS GRAVE
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Nov 12, 2023
GanagiBeetrus:
■ According to the Bible, this is the sin that can never be forgiven - Blaspheming or Speaking against the Holy Ghost. Unfortunately, many Christians have committed this sin and therefore on their way to Hell Fire.
Bible Scholars in the House,
What exactly does it mean to Blaspheme or Speak Against the Holy Ghost?
At least to serve as warning or guide for others who may knowingly or unknowingly commit this grievous sin without forgiveness.
That sin only applies to those who in fact know the Holy Spirit — the Spirit of Truth—whom Jesus Christ spoke of in John 14 vs 15- 27 & John 15 vs 26-27 & John 16 vs 4 - 16. undecided
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by capnies: 6:30pm On Nov 12, 2023
Michael547:

Where does the Bible indicate that it was only the soul of man that was made without his physical body? Just show me a verse where the soul was first made and later put into the physical man. Genesis 2:7 is the first mention of the word soul in relation to man? In that verse was the soul put into man?

MAN IS A LIVING SOUL AND NOTHING ELSE IF YOU DIE YOUR SOUL DIES. EZEKIEL 18:4
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Michael547(m): 6:32pm On Nov 12, 2023
capnies:


MAN IS A LIVING SOUL AND NOTHING ELSE IF YOU DIE YOUR SOUL DIES. EZEKIEL 18:4
Thank you baba.....but Mr Dtruthspeaker agenda must agend without any biblical backup.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by NNTR: 8:00pm On Nov 12, 2023
NNTR:



1 Corinthians 15:45
'So it is written [in Scripture],
“The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL (an individual);”
the last Adam (Christ) became a life-giving spirit [restoring the dead to life].
'

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.


Ezekiel 18:20
'The soul that sinneth, it shall die ...'

The soul, is not spirit+body and never was spirit+body, but, the soul, existentially, is you

sonm.vayina, the difference, that you always dont ever see, is that, the spirit, is not you, but rather, your soul, is you and you are soul (i.e. vice versa)

How do you explain from in 1 Corinthians 15:45 there above, how man became a living a soul?

Well, frog march to Old Testament to see how in Genesis 2:7, it reveals that it was after God breathed the breath of life (i.e. ruach aka wind, air et cetera) into the Adam's nostrils, that Adam became a living soul. Before any of all that, Adam essentially was a lifeless soul, practically was inanimate, as meaning not alive, not moving, not capable of thinking, not capable of doing anything.


Both the soul and spirit (i.e. the breath of life or ruach aka wind, air et cetera) are gifts. This gift of the soul, is yours and yours to keep, but as for, the gift of the spirit, it is not yours to keep, because when all is done and dusted, when one comes to the end of one's life, then the spirit (i.e. the breath of life or ruach aka wind, air et cetera), leaves the body and returns back to its owner, God

Watch this, I have a marvellous, generously well oiled, good functioning and alive spirit within me. Why? Well, it is because, the ruach of God, is not only, purposed, to be only, a life force within me, but in addition to being a life force, the spirit (i.e. the breath of life or ruach aka wind, air et cetera) doubles up, to strengthen me physically and also support me mentally.

It is via the same spirit (i.e. my spirit man) that I communicate with the Godhead. It is with the spirit, that every thing that happens, happened, take or took place are logged and records of them kept.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
'Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely,
and may your entire spirit, soul, and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
'

As human beings, we currently are operating in a 3 dimensional setting and world, and in essence man is tripartite, meaning man is made up of three parts, namely which are spirit, soul, and body and 1 Thessalonians 5:23 seen above, is proof, that the three, are not only just distinct but are separate from each other, too.

When with a glorified body, you break the barrier or limitations of a 3 dimensional framework, doing exploits, as in, like walking into a room through the wall, becomes an easy peasy lemon squeezy thing to do

The soul, is not spirit, and anyone that advances this heresy, is been influenced by lies coming off from demons, pit of hell and perpetuating falsehoods.

Can a soul live and exist without a spirit? Of course, capital YES. So in closing, anyone advancing or promulgating that soul = spirit, is spiritually dead, and so is handicapped, from being without a spirit, without a spirit, working in his/her favour

As above, so below, and as within, so without. If you know, you know, if still you dont know, then ...

It is easier to deceive someone, than it is, to convince a person they have been deceived, is your case. Satan has released a spirit of deception. Yeah you read right, released it among poor deluded folks, rich in falsehood, rich in misrepresentation of what the absolute truth is et cetera

The most outstanding attribute of a person who's deceived, is the fact that they don't know they're deceived

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.




Michael547:
Where does the Bible indicate that it was only the soul of man that was made without his physical body? Just show me a verse where the soul was first made and later put into the physical man.
Genesis 2:7 is the first mention of the word soul in relation to man?
In that verse was the soul put into man?
In that verse, it was ruach, the breath of God, that made a lifeless soul (i.e. you) become alive. It is that life-force that sustains in the land of the living on earth.

The moment that life-force leaves your physical body, you drop dead, as the ruach returns back to God, the
Owner.

capnies:
MAN IS A LIVING SOUL AND NOTHING ELSE IF YOU DIE YOUR SOUL DIES. EZEKIEL 18:4
Please dont get it twisted, because, yes, the soul that sinners, will die. Yes, will a second death, which will be in the Lake of Fire

Michael547:
Thank you baba.....but Mr Dtruthspeaker agenda must agend without any biblical backup.
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when people will not tolerate sound doctrine and accurate instruction
[that challenges them with God’s truth];
but wanting to have their ears tickled [with something pleasing],
they will accumulate for themselves [many] teachers [one after another, chosen]
to satisfy their own desires and to support the errors they hold,


2 Peter 3:3
First, you must understand this:
In the last days people who follow their own desires will appear.
These disrespectful people will ridicule [God's promise]


Mockers and scoffers (i.e. who ridicule and deride) delight in mockery and scoffing, while fools (i.e. who obstinately mock truth) hate knowledge

In the last days, blatant scoffers and deceitful mockers will come scoffing and mocking the truth. These disrespectful people will ridicule God's promise and make fun of believers.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 3:17pm On Nov 13, 2023
Michael547:

Thank you baba.....but Mr Dtruthspeaker agenda must agend without any biblical backup.

Revelations and Isaiah and have already told you that man rises up from his death to live again and die no more. Everyone knows this.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 3:50pm On Nov 13, 2023
capnies:

WHY DIDN'T GOD TELL ADAM ABOUT HELL. STOP INSULTING GOD HELL MEANS GRAVE

o jw, Lake of fire/hell fire which is what we are talking about when we say hell does not mean grave.

Revelations/Daniel and other scriptures clearly show that men rise up from the grave, so this does not apply.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 4:03pm On Nov 13, 2023
world123:


So because they have chosen their path so you think it's okay for them to perish? I thought Christianity is about love / charity
(1 Corinthians 13)?

Have you considered the story of Saul who became Apostle Paul? (Act 9). He chose his path, yet God saved him by the multitude of his tender mercy (Psalm51:1)..

That is what it means to make a choice. Do you beg a babe to still follow you after she has chosen another guy over you and has even declared to the whole world that she shall never ever be with you?

No.

So, as you can see, many have by their own will and force chosen death and hell, so why should anyone pray for dead horses?
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:15pm On Nov 13, 2023
It's rare to sin against the Holy Spirit because to do so the sinner must render his or her God's given conscience dead.
This is what sinning against God's Holy Spirit means:
You can't see God face to face but you can see His active force in action so when the first century Jewish disciples of Christ got baptized with God's Holy Spirit people in Jerusalem saw them and felt they're drunkards those saying this are sinning against humans because what the disciples were doing that day is not natural therefore anyone that speaks abusively about them did so not against the spirit of God.
But after Peter has reminded the Jews present at that event of what God said about pouring out His Spirit on Jews and the vivid evidence of it's fulfilment whoever among the Jews that will continue speaking bad about that event is no longer sinning against those involved but against God's Holy Spirit that's operating on those disciples of Christ.
That's why i said it's rare to see people sinning against God's Holy Spirit one who will do such must kill his or her God's given conscience first!

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Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 5:15pm On Nov 13, 2023
safarifarms:

John 3:18
KJ21
“He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God....

You are Wrong!

'Is condemned already" does mean "impossible to be forgiven"

And the bible has clearly shown that blasphemy and great disobedience to God (Re king saul) and whatever Esau did and attempts to deceive God (Re Ananiais and Saphy) are examples impossible to be forgiven.

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