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Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by safarifarms(m): 8:15pm On Nov 13, 2023
Jesus was talking about the only sin that cannot be forgiven which means one and now you've made it two, blasphemy and great disobedience.

As documented by the bible passage can you explain how the Pharisees blasphemed against the Holy Spirit?

Mathew 12:
22 Then one possessed with a demon was brought to Him, blind and mute, and He healed him, so that the blind and mute man both spoke and saw. 23 All the people were amazed and said, “Is He not the Son of David?”

24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “This Man does not cast out demons, except by Beelzebub the ruler of the demons.”

25 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation. And every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. Then how will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore, they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

29 “Or else how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house.

30 “He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad. 31 Therefore I say to you, all kinds of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.


They didn't directly speak against the Holy Spirit, instead they saw the works of the Holy Spirit and claimed Jesus did them by an evil spirit "Beelzebub".

It was the denial of the works of the Holy Spirit that Jesus termed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. That denial of the works of the one (Holy Spirit) that forgives sins is same as unbelief. Unbelief is the absence of faith.

Hebrews 11:6 (King James Version)
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Matthew 7 (New International Version)
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Jesus said it's only those who do the will of the Father that will enter the kingdom of heaven. Now, what is the will of the father?

John 6:40 (New International Version)
40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

John 6:29 (King James Version)
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

This is yet another portion of the bible that confirm that the only thing required to enter heaven is believing in him.

You can also say that it's the only thing that excludes people from heaven when they don't do so.

You should take note that Jesus never spoke in direct terms to these people that don't believe him. He used parables except with his disciples. So you shouldn't be taking his statements literally.

Mark 4:34 (New International Version)
34 He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.

Dtruthspeaker:


You are Wrong!

'Is condemned already" does mean "impossible to be forgiven"

And the bible has clearly shown that blasphemy and great disobedience to God (Re king saul) and whatever Esau did and attempts to deceive God (Re Ananiais and Saphy) are examples impossible to be forgiven.

Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by johnw47: 1:57am On Nov 14, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It's rare to sin against the Holy Spirit because to do so the sinner must render his or her God's given conscience dead.
This is what sinning against God's Holy Spirit means:
You can't see God face to face but you can see His active force in action so when the first century Jewish disciples of Christ got baptized with God's Holy Spirit people in Jerusalem saw them and felt they're drunkards those saying this are sinning against humans because what the disciples were doing that day is not natural therefore anyone that speaks abusively about them did so not against the spirit of God.
But after Peter has reminded the Jews present at that event of what God said about pouring out His Spirit on Jews and the vivid evidence of it's fulfilment whoever among the Jews that will continue speaking bad about that event is no longer sinning against those involved but against God's Holy Spirit that's operating on those disciples of Christ.
That's why i said it's rare to see people sinning against God's Holy Spirit one who will do such must kill his or her God's given conscience first!

lost false jw indhouse

what a lot of false teaching gibberish you preach

it's very clear that speaking anything against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable,

and you false jw's blaspheme The Holy Spirit calling Him:
the ole demon ghost
and, the unholy ghost etc.

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by johnw47: 9:31am On Nov 14, 2023
false jw's call the Holy Spirit: "the ole demon ghost" 

their fore fathers the pharisees also called the Holy Spirit in Jesus: "a demon, infact the devil himself"

Mat 12:24  But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "This man(Jesus) casts out demons only by Beelzebul the ruler of the demons."
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 6:57pm On Nov 14, 2023
safarifarms:


As documented by the bible passage can you explain how the Pharisees blasphemed against the Holy Spirit?

24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “This Man does not cast out demons, except by Beelzebub the ruler of the demons.”

Do you not see it in verse 24?

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Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by safarifarms(m): 7:37pm On Nov 14, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Do you not see it in verse 24?
That?
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Michael547(m): 1:49am On Nov 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Revelations and Isaiah and have already told you that man rises up from his death to live again and die no more. Everyone knows this.
Before a man rises up from his death, where does he go in the meantime?

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Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 4:13am On Nov 18, 2023
Michael547:

Before a man rises up from his death, where does he go in the meantime?

The bible says what we call death is actally "a sleeping" as proven by the way a dead body even looks https://www.nairaland.com/7899032/man-dies-mysteriously-lagos-park#126768755

Hence why the bible says we "wake up".
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Michael547(m): 8:11am On Nov 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


The bible says what we call death is actally "a sleeping" as proven by the way a dead body even looks https://www.nairaland.com/7899032/man-dies-mysteriously-lagos-park#126768755

Hence why the bible says we "wake up".
Good.....so what happens to the soul at the sleeping period?

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Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by paxonel(m): 8:53am On Nov 18, 2023
GanagiBeetrus:



According to the Bible, this is the sin that can never be forgiven - Blaspheming or Speaking against the Holy Ghost.

Unfortunately, many Christians have committed this sin and therefore on their way to Hell Fire.

Bible Scholars in the House,
What exactly does it mean to Blaspheme or Speak Against the Holy Ghost?
At least to serve as warning or guide for others who may knowingly or unknowingly commit this grievous sin without forgiveness.

in the context of that scripture, to blaspheme means to reject the holy spirit.
You can't talk bad about the holy spirit unless you are not a believer of the holy spirit.
And who was the holy spirit that was talked bad against?
He was Jesus Christ himself.

So, in the nutshell, blaspheming against the holy spirit which implies talking bad against Jesus Christ is simply rejecting to believe in Christ for your salvation.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

It is not possible for a Christian to blaspheme against the holy spirit seeing that he is a believer.

Therefore, there is no sin that cannot be forgiven except the sin of unbelief.
Only an unbeliever will blasheme against Christ.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 2:11pm On Nov 18, 2023
Michael547:

Good.....so what happens to the soul at the sleeping period?

Sleeping.
Re: Nothing Can Ever Save You From Hell Fire If You Commit This Sin by Dtruthspeaker: 2:15pm On Nov 18, 2023
Michael547:

Good.....so what happens to the soul at the sleeping period?

It's sleeping.

That is why lots of people die through and by sleeping.

And that is why doctors in movies say "don't sleep" to wounded people. (I don't know if true o but it feels true)

That is why evil people don't like sleeping or you see them jump up suddenly when they see that they are sleeping.

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