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what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by reXurrectionZA(m): 7:08am On Nov 30, 2023
through history men from various parts of the world have turned to religious god figures or God in aspiration for power. Almost Every leader has attributed(s) his success in gaining power to God(even some claiming to be atheists)... Why? I think Religon has a great role to play in politics than "GOD" himself. In Nigeria we often hear people say "na who God want make em win go win" but every reasonable person and even politicans know that to attain, keep, and pass over power you need to be more harder or smarter than (all) your oppositions. there is a saying that "power belongs to he who is willing to bend down and pick it up". Now looking at the nature of power you will see that it can be attain in a various number of ways, but generally seductively, aggressively or both ways. at the end of the day power belongs NATURALLY to the most competitive(the strongest, richest, most cunning etc) sometimes a person of lesser value gains power but he is easily toppled if he continues timidly

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Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by reXurrectionZA(m): 7:39am On Nov 30, 2023
If earthly power is attained through a brutal man made struggle. where does GOD step in. I stated earlier that power is won through seduction or aggrestion, the use of the word GOD or religon in politics, is a seductive approch to take power. By being perceived as a candidate of God/Allah, even a slave could become a king in a day, due to the support he will recieve from the religous folks. In the preservation of power, even when he makes mistakes the people still believe that its all in Gods plan as the candidate is guided by "the divine". The mentality that who ever wins the struggle for power is God sent, is a fallacy even to the structure of morden government we practice (government by the people not God)... The game of power is not divine it involves getting your hands dirty once in a while. Let me finish by adding this saying. "beware of he who claims to know the mind of God at every turn, he is either crazy or a theif" even Adolf hitler was Gods servant. what do you think?

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Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by orisa37: 8:55am On Nov 30, 2023
GOD IS THE POWER, MIGHT AND HOPE IN ANY SITUATION.
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by reXurrectionZA(m): 9:40am On Nov 30, 2023
orisa37:
GOD IS THE POWER, MIGHT AND HOPE IN ANY SITUATION.
if an evil ruler takes the throne is it the will of God?
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by nigeriansamurai(m): 10:21am On Nov 30, 2023
Religion has always claimed otherwise but it remains a tool for power. Thats why you see politican visiting churches and mosques during elections, they use religon to rally support of religous faithfuls. Also when they see they are clearly failing the people they fake hope in God to still rally sympathizers and faithfuls alike. An example of this case is the statement made recently by the Oba or benin during his visit. He claimed tinubus presidency is Gods choice, in a bid to rally sympathisers. POLITICANS USE RELIGION TO SUPPORT SUFFERING AND SMILING. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WHEN YOU MENTION GOD IN NIGERIA MOST PEOPLE SUBMIT, SO THAT THEY DO NOT TO LOOK LIKE SINNERS, THEY DONT EVEN CARE TO CHECK OUT WHO IS MENTIONING GOD.
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by orisa37: 6:40pm On Nov 30, 2023
YES IT IS THE WILL OF GOD. HIS WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. TINUBU IS HERE TO SATISFY THE WILL OF GOD IN NIGERIA.
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by Ipobpigs2: 6:45pm On Nov 30, 2023
This is downside up foolish thought.
You are asking of God's role in politics, yet religion should be dissociated from the argument. Pls what is the difference between God and religion?
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by reXurrectionZA(m): 11:23pm On Dec 02, 2023
Ipobpigs2:
This is downside up foolish thought.
You are asking of God's role in politics, yet religion should be dissociated from the argument. Pls what is the difference between God and religion?
...im sorry mr ...pigs no need for the insults, thats not what i meant. I want you to give me statements that can be arguable as well as agreeable not a statement based a particular religion. i was only trying to avoid "God said in his word..." Type of comments. you are free to talk about you understanding of God. But remember the question is more logical than religious.
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by reXurrectionZA(m): 11:33pm On Dec 02, 2023
orisa37:
YES IT IS THE WILL OF GOD. HIS WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. TINUBU IS HERE TO SATISFY THE WILL OF GOD IN NIGERIA.
...alright i have a question for you. Was Adolf hitler as a leader God's will for Germany or is Kim's Tyranny In North korea in God's plan? please i will love to get your answer.
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by orisa37: 12:10am On Dec 03, 2023
reXurrectionZA:
...alright i have a question for you. Was Adolf hitler as a leader God's will for Germany or is Kim's Tyranny In North korea in God's plan? please i will love to get your answer.


LORD LUGARD WROTE DOWN FOR US IN NIGERIA, THE CHARACTERS OF THE IGBOS, HAUSAS AND THE YORUBAS.
GOD APPOINTED LUGARD TO DO THAT.
GOD HAS NOW APPOINTED TINUBU WITH HIS PECULIAR YORUBA CHARACTERS AS NIGERIAN LEADER TO TEACH NIGERIANS SOME EMILOKAN LESSONS. GOOD AND BAD LESSONS, LET US WAIT AND SEE.
HITLER AND KIM WERE GOD'S CHOICES AS LEADERS IN DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by cadmanspize: 7:05am On Dec 03, 2023
God? That stupid white man?
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by hegelian: 7:09am On Dec 03, 2023
orisa37:



LORD LUGARD WROTE DOWN FOR US IN NIGERIA, THE CHARACTERS OF THE IGBOS, HAUSAS AND THE YORUBAS.
GOD APPOINTED LUGARD TO DO THAT.
GOD HAS NOW APPOINTED TINUBU WITH HIS PECULIAR YORUBA CHARACTERS AS NIGERIAN LEADER TO TEACH NIGERIANS SOME EMILOKAN LESSONS. GOOD AND BAD LESSONS, LET US WAIT AND SEE.
HITLER AND KIM WERE GOD'S CHOICES AS LEADERS IN DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.

Then God must be a brutal being for giving people evil leaders and making women and children suffers. Such God does not deserve worship or adoration..
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by reXurrectionZA(m): 7:22am On Dec 03, 2023
orisa37:



LORD LUGARD WROTE DOWN FOR US IN NIGERIA, THE CHARACTERS OF THE IGBOS, HAUSAS AND THE YORUBAS.
GOD APPOINTED LUGARD TO DO THAT.
GOD HAS NOW APPOINTED TINUBU WITH HIS PECULIAR YORUBA CHARACTERS AS NIGERIAN LEADER TO TEACH NIGERIANS SOME EMILOKAN LESSONS. GOOD AND BAD LESSONS, LET US WAIT AND SEE.
HITLER AND KIM WERE GOD'S CHOICES AS LEADERS IN DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
hmmm... A very nice angle. That means, the people at the end of the day have no say in governance. Since our suffering (or pleasure) from the act of leaders are orchestrated by GOD. Ill like to add this a cow doesnt need to say a prayer before it grazes, the same way a bird doesnt need a prayer to fly becauce GOD has already given him power to do so thus his flight is his choice, the same way he gave men (good and evil) power to rule over the earth. LEADERSHIP is a personal choice. he that uses his GOD given power the best (wisdom) will surely rule ...Well thanks for your insight
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by reXurrectionZA(m): 7:46am On Dec 03, 2023
well as for luggard... The act of the colonial masters destroyed/rewrote our history. Basically colonization was for the economical benefit of the europeans not for Africans. even the education of the colonies was in a bid to make their slaves take on more skill required tasks as well as to conform africans to a new order. The actions of our colonial masters where fueled by greed and self intrest not GOD.
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by reXurrectionZA(m): 7:48am On Dec 03, 2023
hegelian:


Then God must be a brutal being for giving people evil leaders and making women and children suffers. Such God does not deserve worship or adoration..
exactly...
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by orisa37: 7:54am On Dec 03, 2023
GOD IS A GOOD MANAGER AND A SUPREME SPIRIT.
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by orisa37: 8:07am On Dec 03, 2023
GOD IS AN ELEPHANT, A TIGER AND A LION. GOD IS EVEN A "KURA" HYENA AND THE SERPENT AT THE GARDEN.
THAT GOD IS MONITORING TINUBU 24/7. AND YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE JEALOUS OF HIM AND OF HIS WORKS.
Re: what is GODs role in politics/power?(not a religous argument, facts only) by nigeriansamurai(m): 8:30pm On Dec 05, 2023
orisa37:
GOD IS AN ELEPHANT, A TIGER AND A LION. GOD IS EVEN A "KURA" HYENA AND THE SERPENT AT THE GARDEN.
THAT GOD IS MONITORING TINUBU 24/7. AND YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE JEALOUS OF HIM AND OF HIS WORKS.
well that one na your understanding sha. but is your god also monitoring the suffering his tinubu is causing? or is that only what your god does "monitor"? lol.

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