lucarella:

Are you kidding me?? UI that dead school?? Has UI ever had all courses accredited by d NUC without exception?? Does UI produce the condusive environment for learning? Nonsense!!
And all y'all talkin about the hustle and how intelligent your students are should have his head examined again. mschewwww!! u guys r high! When I was on I.T, in Oceanic bank dat tym where i worked, The manager of the bank was only concerned about employing Covenant University students.
Bottomline, u pple from federal universities are always taken as potential criminals in the eye of the employer. (No offense to the true diligent students). Neva compare Covenant to UI again! NEVA!

bayooooooo:

I understand your concern but still education is not for everybody especially at tertiary level. A good university can not run on government's charity alone. I have a proposition: allow universities to charge fees and do not put a cap on it. if they like let them charge 1m naira. Make it a law that each university must offer full scholarships to the  top 5-10% of admitted students irrespective of financial need (i.e whether rich or poor). Then Government can come in and offer scholarships (based on competition to another say 5-10 percents of the rest). That means Government paying universities for some good students.

Then you as a candidate must target two categories of scholarships-the automatic one when you are among the very best and the other where you have to be competitive to be considered.

What about the rest? You have to pay for your education because you have not shown enough promise why state or university should pay for you.
Remember, tertiary education is not meant for everybody.

all4naija:

^^^
No! I still don't get it. Just try to explain it to me in a precised but simple English.

all4naija:

That's a very resounding awesome comment. But, this is an economy where more than 70% of the population live below poverty line. Without govt intervention in the forms of loans and benefits extending it to all university intending students the country is going to be plagued with large percentage of none-graduate citizens. Most of us know that university is the pinnacle of education, and the educated is used to judge the power of any nation.

I agree you on not everybody will be educated; but the magnitude of the number of people who will attain such level of education is very important.

bayooooooo:

I understand your comment as well which by all standard is excellent. Some students who are not good enough for some universities will end up being the best for others. But government will not recognize and pay for any course that's not accredited and the process of accreditation shall be rigorously rigorous.   Universities will also apply common sense (economics will teach them this) in charging fees. To make more more, they ll like to have a realistic fee that ll be affordable to a good number of people and the 10% scholarship law will limit the number of students to be taken or that the school can support. More so, some disciplines will charge different fees. it ll definitely cost more to qualify in Medicine than in Yoruba. So in way, the system ll still be friendly.



There is nothing wrong if Government also reserves some scholarships for m

dayokanu:


^^ Not meaning to demean you, but did you do anything in Maths?

Ok in layman terms. You cant throw a figure out with telling us what you are comparing it to.

E.g "Tunde was 3rd in his class" doesn't make any sense until you tell us the number of students he is competing against

A more sensible statement is "Tunde was 3rd in a class of 50"

oraclefemi:

I STUDY IN EKITI AND SOME OF MY LECTURERS LECTURE IN CU, MY LECTURER  CAME TO CLASS ONE DAY AND TOLD US THAT THE STUDENTS OF CU ARE BEING FORCED TO LEARN LIKE PRISONERS,HE SAID IF HE WERE TO TAKE OUR STUDENTS TO CU THEY WILL COME OUT WITH FIRST CLASS , THE POSTER SHOULD CALM DOWN, MOST OF THE LEGENDS IN NIGERIA WERE PRODUCED FROM THESE SAME UNIS YOU DONT RESPECT NOW, BRING YOUR BEST STUDENT IN YOUR FAC OF LAW , PUT HIM OR HER AND A STUDENT OF LAW FROM UI, he will be inspired !

sheyguy:

dont be decieved by any incompetent lecturer telling u shitz. Twice every year some of the best of hands in nigerian universities come in & go round these private schools as external examiners, from the report they give the convenant university stands tall among unis in Nig. If i must be specific they rank convenant among the top 5, some of your lecturers u claimed r telling u stuffs abt the sch. R not being honest. lots of argument have been raised against that sch. No phone? How did uni. students survive b4 mobile phone came? No bf/gf but we know truth + they r getting married to one another immediately after grad. The list goes on.

luvola:

@ op - stop comparing  convenant to lasu  talkless of u.i. 2 of lasu law students (a 2.1 and 2.2) last month had distinction at the nigerian law sch thereby emerging as the best student for 2011 law sch.imagine a 2.2 lasu law graduate bagging a 1st class in law school ? am not suprise because that is the normal norm in law school w.r.t lasu student . never in your life compare convenant to u.i,death is d/f from disease.

bayooooooo:

On what basis is CU ranked among the top 5?

[/quote]Government will and is meant to help the poor. Government also wants high quality education. So you need a balance. Education at secondary school level can be made cheaper or close to free (but must not be free). So, if you are poor but brilliant, your education will not be a problem.

If you are poor and not brilliant, you don't need to go to University in the first place and of course government ll not pay and your parents don't have money to waste as well. The dull (sorry sounds negative) will opt for what he/she is good at doing. S/he may learn trade. In a way, many students who are not meant to be in University will be shown out. University will then become what it should be (like harvard where the level of competition in class is almost unimaginable, everybody here is exceptionally brilliant and to get a B is almost a sin) which is good for the students, the parents, the economy and the image of the nation.

What about the rich dull student? Well, the parent can afford to waste a lot of money on him/her. That money might as well be devoted to a meaningful business. But in a way, He/She is paying for good students on Scholarship.I must admit my proposition is capitalist oriented where the best is meant to succeed and not so good is meant to fail.

Government ll have to set up programs (vocational, technical institutes, etc) to cater for the rest. But the university system ll become what we can be proud of again.[quote]That is a great idea. This proves the quality of primary and junior high education really matter to the quality of graduates those universities will be producing. The so called capitalist approach will likely benefit a few if the standard is poor, because students alone can't be used as a yard stick to measure the standard of education. As one person rightly said here that Nigerian students are not so much different from the ones in UK order than the environment in which they are taught.

dayokanu:

Most of your points dont make sense at all, And I am sure you made a 2-1 from CU.

Those lecturers who send their kids to private schools do so because the kids couldn't pass UME

You also noticed that Federal unis students have better IQ than Private Uni that are a gathering of Ret-ards

Who are the lecturers in these private Universities? Those who were rejected in Federal unis

Dumb Students, Dumb Lecturers

Be honest, What did you score in UME, Was CU your first choice? What made you go to CU?

Tell me you werent ashamed to be in a secondary school called University located in Ota?

During NYSC, Most students from babcock were even ashamed to mention the names of their school.

Covenant University? Why not "God is Good" University, "Righteousness" University ?

Imagine those rubbish UME lesson centers turned to private Uni

Lead university, Ajayi Crowther University, Bowen University, "Madonna" University why not Shakira University or Beyonce university?

Another one Joseph Ayo babalola university? WTF Someone can just write his full name and add University to the end of it

Soon we would have "Beaf Gbawe Ajanlekoko" University

all4naija:

From the images coming out of govt universities I can't go close to the hostels nor imagine living in one of them.

I lived in Mellanby Hall (during my days in UI and ) which is not different from the picture you have up there. I did well in my classes and made what one would consider a good degree. If Hostel becomes the problem, you can live off campus preferably in Bodija if you have the money.

Students, and yes student is a veritable yardstick to judge a university. Students say a lot about the university: the quality of the curriculum, the quality of lecturers, the quality of the administration of the school, the quality of research going on, the quality of admission policy, name it. That's why graduates of top universities of the world are respected. Infrastructure? Good. But we will measure it based on impact on students and research. A lot of folks in my department don't regard Nigerian education system and had initially thought I would have issues coping with the system. But when the grades are tabulated and the graph plotted, opinions changed. They are more likely to view a student application from Nigeria positively next time. have they been to Nigeria? Nope, will they be impressed if they care to visit, nope? can they judge UI based on my performance, Yes (it may not be accurate because you can not use one student, but it is enough to form an opinion).

Infrastructure is not a problem in French universities but have you wondered why they are not highly ranked compare to UK and US schools?  There is one here who ll likely be shown the way out. Don't quote me  

all4naija:

Actually, I am always multitasking - there is no excuse for that. Correct use of numbers, is that what you are talking about? Not what grade the student had? I think the number doesn't actually matter in this case but what is important is the grades achieved and the rigorous nature of the examinations. In a nutshell there is nothing  wrong to say I had first class in any field  without talking about the number of students from that class. Sometimes, you might not even know the number of students in your class.

daphil:

@ lucarella, you amuse me! Tell me please, why wouldn't that oceanic bank manager patronises cu when he is a member of winners' chapel?
You know what, maybe oceanic bank wouldn't had gone distressed if they had employed those public univ. Grad. Because they are known for smartness business or any other way wise. Lol