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Re: Population Or Landmass, What Should Determine State Creation? by Diego35M: 11:24am On Mar 29
Population I think
Re: Population Or Landmass, What Should Determine State Creation? by Buccalcavity2: 11:33am On Mar 29
Penguin2:

I like the factors you enunciated and I can say that those have majorly been the determinant for state creation in Nigeria with the examples of the states I already cited above.

But just to correct a false submission you, Ebonyi has no high population of Muslims; not at all.

There’s a community of Muslims in Afikpo but they don’t make up 5% of Ebonyi population if I’m being generous. But if I want to be harsh, I can tell you authoritatively that they don’t even constitute 1% of Ebonyi population.

So, how did you arrive at that erroneous assertion that “Ebonyi has high population of Muslims?”

Like I stated in the body of the thread, the major reason Ebonyi State was created is because people from other part of Igbos used to, mostly, look down on Ebonyi people who they used to address, derogatorily, as “ndi Abakaliki”. It was difficult for the Abakaliki man to get appointments in the Old Anambra or Enugu States. As they were neglected in appointments, so also were infrastructural developments in their part of the state neglected as well.

All this was because they were considered timid, uneducated, unexposed, crude and everything negative. Some Non-Ebonyi Igbos still harbour these sentiments about ‘Ndi Abakaliki’ but it’s not as strong as it was in the 1990s.

So, the above was the compelling argument that led to the creation of Ebonyi State and not that “high Muslim population” erroneous submission.

Meanwhile, just like the Ebonyi argument was compelling, so also is the argument for the creation of a 6th state for the region equally compelling because of the need to balance in visible imbalance in the way Nigeria is presently structured that is making us lose out both in revenue sharing and in political arrangements.
Again, these are all emotions. What do you then say of gbagyi people of southern Kaduna, okeogun people of Oyo, Esan people of Edo, Ebira of Kogi....
I do not support additional state creation in SE or any region. As we speak only 3 states of SE "can display potential" to subsist without federal allocation. None can subsist currently! This craze for dissociation should slow. Show us your proof of economic viability before you ask for state creation.
Re: Population Or Landmass, What Should Determine State Creation? by Penguin2: 11:38am On Mar 29
NaMe4:


I used the word 'relatively'; when compared to other SE States. It could be less than 5% of the population as you stated.
From the reasons you gave, cultural factors and conflicts of interest were at play.
Well, whether you used relatively or not, the existing of a Muslim population was never part of the reasons for the creation of Ebonyi State.

Again, Ebonyi are not really culturally diverse from the rest of the Igbos as they share nearly everything in common.

I think basically it had to do with the perceived marginalization they suffered under the old Enugu and Anambra states which brings us back to the need to address social ill.

This much is true today about the Southeast having just 5 states while others have 6 and 7. Or is that not a social ill?
Re: Population Or Landmass, What Should Determine State Creation? by Penguin2: 11:40am On Mar 29
Buccalcavity2:

Again, these are all emotions. What do you then say of gbagyi people of southern Kaduna, okeogun people of Oyo, Esan people of Edo, Ebira of Kogi....
I do not support additional state creation in SE or any region. As we speak only 3 states of SE "can display potential" to subsist without federal allocation. None can subsist currently! This craze for dissociation should slow. Show us your proof of economic viability before you ask for state creation.
What are the economic viabilities of the states in the Northwest; a region that has 7 states?
Re: Population Or Landmass, What Should Determine State Creation? by Buccalcavity2: 11:51am On Mar 29
Penguin2:

What are the economic viabilities of the states in the Northwest; a region that has 7 states?
I stated earlier. Mistakes of the past (military decrees premised on primordial sentiments) should not be repeated. That's why we are better enlightened. We should have more productive units of a federation.
Re: Population Or Landmass, What Should Determine State Creation? by ThinkSmarter: 2:02pm On Mar 29
Penguin2:

I like the factors you enunciated and I can say that those have majorly been the determinant for state creation in Nigeria with the examples of the states I already cited above.

But just to correct a false submission you, Ebonyi has no high population of Muslims; not at all.

There’s a community of Muslims in Afikpo but they don’t make up 5% of Ebonyi population if I’m being generous. But if I want to be harsh, I can tell you authoritatively that they don’t even constitute 1% of Ebonyi population.

So, how did you arrive at that erroneous assertion that “Ebonyi has high population of Muslims?”

Like I stated in the body of the thread, the major reason Ebonyi State was created is because people from other part of Igbos used to, mostly, look down on Ebonyi people who they used to address, derogatorily, as “ndi Abakaliki”. It was difficult for the Abakaliki man to get appointments in the Old Anambra or Enugu States. As they were neglected in appointments, so also were infrastructural developments in their part of the state neglected as well.

All this was because they were considered timid, uneducated, unexposed, crude and everything negative. Some Non-Ebonyi Igbos still harbour these sentiments about ‘Ndi Abakaliki’ but it’s not as strong as it was in the 1990s.

So, the above was the compelling argument that led to the creation of Ebonyi State and not that “high Muslim population” erroneous submission.

Meanwhile, just like the Ebonyi argument was compelling, so also is the argument for the creation of a 6th state for the region equally compelling because of the need to balance in visible imbalance in the way Nigeria is presently structured that is making us lose out both in revenue sharing and in political arrangements.

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