You may fail, but that's not your end. You know why? You are a man.

You look weak, but you are stronger than what you could ever imagine. And thanks to the fact that you are a man.

You are a symbol of perfection, strength and vigor. You have to face life head-on. Everything wants to be like you. But none can't.

You will get disappointed, thrown into the earth, ridiculed and underestimated.
Don't get depressed, it's your story. It's definitely gonna be difficult but embrace it. It's for glory.

Even if you failed, don't worry about it. Pick yourself up, dust yourself up. You definitely have to give it a tough fight. You are a man, it's never too late.

Not everyone will succeed, but regardless of which state you find yourself. Always strive to be better than yesterday, that's what makes you a man.

You are the greatest work of nature. The society is harsh towards you but nature has got your back. You can take consolation in that and turn it into motivation.

You are not insecure, you are not fake, you are not inferior.
You do not need to wear a make-up, lipstick, extended eye lashes and eyebrows drawn like the horns of an antelope to look good.
You are naturally awesome.

We can go a month without body cream and still be looking all dope in whatever drip we on.

That's why every other thing wants to be like you, wear your dress, be in your space or at least want to be equal with you.

The more you grow, the more handsome you look.

I understand that some men who are raised by men who don't know how to be men have also raised men who don't know that manishnness is all about. But if you are finding this thread today. Congratulations to you.

Men have always been the strong being both in physical strength, intelligence, critical and conceptual thinking and natural sense.

Here are a few things that men shouldn't do.

1. Men don't beg for money. The male gender is not the gender that beg for money and food. Only a male gender that'll still a minor is allowed only to request from his parents.

2. Men are not meant to be emotional. A man must always be logical and his brain must always be at work 24/7.

3. Men should not desire the feelings of being loved. Any man who desires to be loved is a useless man who can be likened to a lost puppy who is looking for a soft place to lie down.

4. A man must be emotionally independent. A man shouldn't need someone to be there for him emotionally. A man should be too focused on his goals to even consider emotions at all.

5. Only a stupid man would be scared of living alone and doing his things alone. A man who enjoys being alone is a scary man.

5. A man should put his respect first and then above all things he wants to get.

6. A man should be capable of causing evil, i.e. A man should be dangerous, but he should refrain from causing the evil unless there is need for it. A man who is not capable of causing evil is a lion without teeth and claws.

7. A man must be dedicated, persistent, smart working, hard working, determined and diligent. A man should not expect favours from people, if it came, fine! If it wouldn't? Fine! A man should dust himself and unto the next one.

8. As a man, you should not take the meat that belongs to a member of your brotherhood. You should not take his food. A man who takes his brother's meat out of envy or jealousy deserves death.

9. A man should not submit himself to any authority except of his father, the government and the person who pays his salary.

10. A man should understand that there can never be no one like his mother again and therefore should stop looking for love and affection from elsewhere. It's for stupid people.

11. A man will not be remembered for being a great husband or a great father. A man will only be remembered and celebrated for his contribution to the society through his purpose.

12. The importance of a man in sexual relationships is basically for procreation. Men who cant control their sexual urges are even lower than the animals. He's totally useless and unrefined.

13. A man who idolizes sex to the extent of rape is nothing but a bag of worms.

14. Your goals must give you insomnia as a man.

15. A man must respect and honour his father.

16. The only people a man must love are his mother and his kids. Those are his bloods.



I'm so proud to be a man, I couldn't wish for anything else. Being a man alone is a great blessing.
Men built this world and every civilization.
99.9% of the discoveries in the history of mankind that has advanced mankind up to this point were done by men.

If not for men. Human beings would have remained at Homo Erectus.

Proudly a man. Can't nothing be better. I am not the same with any other being.

Therefore men, let's stop whimpering like lost kids. Life is unfair, let's get used to that.

Who else is proud to be a man?

There's no rule to becoming a man.
You can't actively start learning how to be a man.
Becoming a man is a natural continuous process that results from experience, environment, upbringing, exposure, and a host of other psycho-social indicators.

In order to be in line with what will naturally shape you to become a man, just keep improving yourself.
What you encounter in a bid to improve yourself is what will shape you; and not some questionable rules that are based off myths of what a man should be.

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Proserpina:

I've not even read the thread but because of your comment...

i fully disagree on a few points you made (as it seems is just misplaced ego speech):
- so a man in need shouldnt beg for help? if you are in need and you need to beg your family/friends/acquaintance for help, then by any means do that. these people are there to help you and so are you there for them (if needs be)

- so a man cannot be emotional? just because women bring yeye emotional nonsense to argument doesnt mean a man cannot be emotional. the day you sign your 1st big contract, BE EMOTIONAL! the day you have your 1st child, BE EMOTIONAL! your kids graduate, BE EMOTIONAL! the day your kids get married BE EMOTIONAL! if/when a dear person in your life pass away, BE EMOTIONAL!

- there is nothing wrong with a man's desire to find LOVE... love is a great thing, especially with a good/intelligent woman. whats important is to make sure that he finds love with the RIGHT person, and not some yeye liability

- so because a man has goals in life, he cannot be emotional? again, there is nothing wrong with being emotional and have a life. if you want to go home after a hard day at work and cry/vent yourself to sleep so that the next day you are fit to attack your issue head on, then by all means, do so.

- many men out there submit to their holybook, religion and/or their pastors. to each their own.

- any man understands that his love for his parents/siblings is different than the love he has for a wife. these are two different set of people, with two different set of love. the love a man has for his parents/sibling is natural, they can be the worst person on earth and you would still love them, while the love you have for your wife is an emotional/wise decision you took because of who that person is.

- men who rape are mentally sick criminals... just like pedos, whose urges should send them to jail for a LOOONG time. these are not human beings, these are ANIMALS!

- so a man cannot/shouldnt LOVE his father?

- so a man cannot/shouldnt RESPECT/HONOR his mother?

- so a man cannot/shouldnt LOVE his wife?

finally, as much as we should be proud of being men, we should also understand that LIFE being alone is worthless, unless you have someone worthy to share your life with. someone to share your good times and your bad times with; someone to be able to open up and talk to with no fear of being judged etc; someone to build a life/family together with; someone to grow old with etc. if you dont find such person then cool, but if such person present itself to your life, then embrace her and welcome her into your life so you can become the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF (only a good woman can bring that out of us men)

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2braithe:
There's no rule to becoming a man.

There are rules to becoming a man. A man that lives without rules is nothing but an animal.

2braithe:

You can't actively start learning how to be a man.
Becoming a man is a natural continuous process that results from experience, environment, upbringing, exposure, and a host of other psycho-social indicators.

Being a male is a natural thing. Becoming a man is a result of training, long suffering, discipline and intelligence.

If being a man is a result of upbringing and exposure? Would boys who grow up amidst Trans and weak men be also classified as men?
Think.

2braithe:

In order to be in line with what will naturally shape you to become a man, just keep improving yourself.
What you encounter in a bid to improve yourself is what will shape you; and not some questionable rules that are based off myths of what a man should be.

Self improvement is not what makes you a man. AI self improves itself, the other gender improve themselves too. Does that make them a man?

Being a man is living by principles and discipline. A male is different from a man.

How do I even expect everyone to understand this?

MrBrownJay1:
i fully disagree on a few points you made (as it seems is just misplaced ego speech):
- so a man in need shouldnt beg for help? if you are in need and you need to beg your family/friends/acquaintance for help, then by any means do that. these people are there to help you and so are you there for them (if needs be)

- so a man cannot be emotional? just because women bring yeye emotional nonsense to argument doesnt mean a man cannot be emotional. the day you sign your 1st big contract, BE EMOTIONAL! the day you have your 1st child, BE EMOTIONAL! your kids graduate, BE EMOTIONAL! the day your kids get married BE EMOTIONAL! if/when a dear person in your life pass away, BE EMOTIONAL!

- there is nothing wrong with a man's desire to find LOVE... love is a great thing, especially with a good/intelligent woman. whats important is to make sure that he finds love with the RIGHT person, and not some yeye liability

- so because a man has goals in life, he cannot be emotional? again, there is nothing wrong with being emotional and have a life. if you want to go home after a hard day at work and cry/vent yourself to sleep so that the next day you are fit to attack your issue head on, then by all means, do so.

- many men out there submit to their holybook, religion and/or their pastors. to each their own.

- any man understands that his love for his parents/siblings is different than the love he has for a wife. these are two different set of people, with two different set of love. the love a man has for his parents/sibling is natural, they can be the worst person on earth and you would still love them, while the love you have for your wife is an emotional/wise decision you took because of who that person is.

- men who rape are mentally sick criminals... just like pedos, whose urges should send them to jail for a LOOONG time. these are not human beings, these are ANIMALS!

- so a man cannot/shouldnt LOVE his father?

- so a man cannot/shouldnt RESPECT/HONOR his mother?

- so a man cannot/shouldnt LOVE his wife?

finally, as much as we should be proud of being men, we should also understand that LIFE being alone is worthless, unless you have someone worthy to share your life with. someone to share your good times and your bad times with; someone to be able to open up and talk to with no fear of being judged etc; someone to build a life/family together with; someone to grow old with etc. if you dont find such person then cool, but if such person present itself to your life, then embrace her and welcome her into your life so you can become the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF (only a good woman can bring that out of us men)

70 years old man. See what he's saying.

MrBrownJay1:
i fully disagree on a few points you made (as it seems is just misplaced ego speech):
- so a man in need shouldnt beg for help? if you are in need and you need to beg your family/friends/acquaintance for help, then by any means do that. these people are there to help you and so are you there for them (if needs be)

I never said men shouldn't beg for help. I said men shouldn't beg for financial assistance. It makes you become a bother and people easily look down on you. I do not request for financial assistance from people, not because i'm arrogant but because taking stuff from people when I haven't worked/ earned it makes me feel like shit.

A man should always learn to figure his own shit out, by himself.

MrBrownJay1:

- so a man cannot be emotional? just because women bring yeye emotional nonsense to argument doesnt mean a man cannot be emotional. the day you sign your 1st big contract, BE EMOTIONAL! the day you have your 1st child, BE EMOTIONAL! your kids graduate, BE EMOTIONAL! the day your kids get married BE EMOTIONAL! if/when a dear person in your life pass away, BE EMOTIONAL!

When I closed a deal that changed my life I didn't feel any special thing, I was just happy. And that was it.
I didn't attend my own primary school graduation, my secondary school VS, my UNI convocation, when I completed NYSC I didn't even make a fuss about it.
I don't wish myself on my birthdays.

When my kids graduate, it'll be a normal thing. When I lost my best friend so many years ago, I was sad. Nevertheless, I dusted myself up and went back to school the following day. I had papers to write.

These things are normal things that everyone does. Why should I feel special and emotional about them?

MrBrownJay1:

- there is nothing wrong with a man's desire to find LOVE... love is a great thing, especially with a good/intelligent woman. whats important is to make sure that he finds love with the RIGHT person, and not some yeye liability

Now the problem is, the kind of love a man wants doesn't exist. A man wants a mother in a wife, which can never happen. You can't drill your mother, but you drill your wife. That's already a big clause.

Secondly, there are no good and intelligent 21st century women.

Thirdly, there is no such thing as the right person.

MrBrownJay1:

- so because a man has goals in life, he cannot be emotional? again, there is nothing wrong with being emotional and have a life. if you want to go home after a hard day at work and cry/vent yourself to sleep so that the next day you are fit to attack your issue head on, then by all means, do so.

Emotions are weaknesses, they lead to feelings and feelings are useless. You might feel like not going to work, but you gotta go regardless of your feelings. Therefore, feelings are a waste of human precious time.

Tears don't solve anything. Therefore, why should a man cry?
Life is always unfair, and full of misfortune. Men should always have this at the back of their minds.

I agree with the fact that, at worst, if a man must cry. He should be by himself alone and never do it in front of anyone else.

MrBrownJay1:

- many men out there submit to their holybook, religion and/or their pastors. to each their own.

Men who submit to their pastors are stupid. E.O.D.

MrBrownJay1:

- any man understands that his love for his parents/siblings is different than the love he has for a wife. these are two different set of people, with two different set of love. the love a man has for his parents/sibling is natural, they can be the worst person on earth and you would still love them, while the love you have for your wife is an emotional/wise decision you took because of who that person is.

- men who rape are mentally sick criminals... just like pedos, whose urges should send them to jail for a LOOONG time. these are not human beings, these are ANIMALS!

- so a man cannot/shouldnt LOVE his father?

The language of love that a man understands is honour and respect. You can playfully tell someone you love that "you are not serious". Can you try that with your father?

- so a man cannot/shouldnt RESPECT/HONOR his mother?
Women don't understand respect. They want love and affection. You honour them with your affection.

MrBrownJay1:

- so a man cannot/shouldnt LOVE his wife?

Is a woman deserving of love? Why does she deserve to be loved?
That useless love which is a misnomer for lust will render one useless and pitiable.

MrBrownJay1:

finally, as much as we should be proud of being men, we should also understand that LIFE being alone is worthless, unless you have someone worthy to share your life with. someone to share your good times and your bad times with; someone to be able to open up and talk to with no fear of being judged etc; someone to build a life/family together with; someone to grow old with etc. if you dont find such person then cool, but if such person present itself to your life, then embrace her and welcome her into your life so you can become the BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF (only a good woman can bring that out of us men)

This is what silly men use to console themselves. How would a woman bring the best out of a man? By nagging, sleeping around, wasting his money on frivolities or how?

How did a woman bring the best out of Nikola Tesla, Isaac Newton, Leonardo or Will Smith, and many more who have fallen by the snares of women?

Again and again. The 21st century woman is not a good woman.

Why should a man be scared of living alone, who should a man wanna share his good time or bad time with anybody? Those men are like babies, they are idiots. They make me feel nauseated. Ew! I even feel like throwing up thinking about it.
Should I tell you the truth. Women even hate this kind of men who are emotionally dependent. They see them as a nuisance.

FRANCISTOWN:
I never said men shouldn't beg for help. I said men shouldn't beg for financial assistance. It makes you become a bother and people easily look down on you. I do not request for financial assistance from people, not because i'm arrogant but because taking stuff from people when I haven't worked/ earned it makes me feel like shit.
A man should always learn to figure his eon shit out, by himself.

if a man ever needs financial assistance then let him ask his own family and friends BEFORE going to take a yeye loan from any thieving banks or loan app. i'd rather my family/friends came to me for financial help because if i can help then of course i will. thats what friends and family are also here for.
the reason why so many brothas fail is because they think they can figure shiit out by themselves while help is just a question away (but their misplaced ego is in the way of common sense)

When I closed a deal that changed my life I didn't feel any special thing. I didn't attend my own primary school graduation, my secondary school VS, my UNI convocation, when I completed NYSC I didn't even make a fuss about it. I don't wish myself on my birthdays.
When my kids graduate, it's a normal thing. When I lost my best friend so many years ago, I was sad. Nevertheless, I dusted myself up and went back to school the following day. I had papers to write.
These things are normal things that everyone does. Why should I feel special and emotional about them?

so being sad is not being emotional, abi? remember, being happy is also being emotional, being upset is also being emotional.
as a father, i cried tears of joy (like a baby) when i saw my 1st son being born; as a brother, i cried like a baby when my dear brother passed away... and there is nothing wrong with a man being emotional, this is something completely NORMAL. it doesnt make you a woman, it doesnt make you weak, it makes you HUMAN... only a very evil person would not shed a tear when his parents/sibling pass away.

Now the problem is, the kind of love a man wants doesn't exist. A man wants a mother in a wife, which can never happen. You can't drill your mother, but you drill your wife. That's already a big clause.

the above are not men, the above are yeye people who think that they can recreate in a wife what they have for their mother. WRONG!!!! your mother is your mother, she is unique and can NEVER BE COPIED/REPLACED by any woman; your wife is NOT your mother and will never remotely be your mother; you are highly confused if you expect your wife to be the same as your mother. your mother gave you life; your mother breastfed you; your parents raised you for +20yrs and made you the man you are today, how dare you want to compare them with a woman you just met a few months/years ago?!

Secondly, there are no good and intelligent women.

BWAAAAAAAAAAH so this is what this thread is really all about... abeg, open a new thread on this exact subject and lets discuss this issue... which really is that; YOU have never met a good/intelligent woman or that YOU cant attract a good/intelligent woman

Thirdly, there is no such thing as the right person.

its called the right person FOR YOU... and that person is mostly easy to find. if you've met tons of women in your life and never met a perfect woman then the problem is YOU.

Emotions are weakness, it leads to feelings and feelings are useless. You might feel like not going to work, but you gotta go regardless of your feelings. Therefore, feelings are a waste of human precious time.

there is nothing wrong with having an emotion but sadly, men like you automatically assume that being emotional means a man is weak. being SAD means you are emotional.. didnt you just write you were sad when your best friend passed away? although useless to you, thats how you felt and there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT NOR WEAK ABOUT THAT.
Btw remember, emotions can also be HAPPINESS, PRIDE, HOPE, THANKFUL, LOVE etc.

Tears don't solve anything. Therefore, why should a man cry?
Life is always unfair, and full of misfortune. Men should always have this at the back of their minds.

there are plenty of moments in life when a man can cry (tears of sorrow/joy) and that doesnt make a man weak... it makes a man HUMAN

I agree with the fact that, if a man must cry. He should be by himself alone and never do it in front of anyone else.

so now its ok for a man to cry (aka be emotional), so long as nobody sees him cry? again, thats your misplaced ego talking...

Men who submit to their pastors are stupid. E.O.D.

as much as i am an atheist... i disagree with you on this point too. many of these religious people believe that by submitting to their holybook's teaching, they will live a better/righteous life. some people out there need the guidance that their holybook gives them. i dont need a holybook to show me right from wrong, but its obvious these religious people do. to each their own way of life, so long as it aint criminal or against our knowledge of right/wrong.

The language of love that a man understands is honour and respect. You can playfully tell someone you love that "you are not serious". Can you try that with your father?

i LOVE, honor and respect my father and mother because they gave me life, raised me, instill the right value in me and made me who i am today... and as much as i love/honor/respect the mothers of my children, it certainly aint the same thing, i love/honor and respect these women for a completely different reason. i can die for my parents (even though they probably wont let me), i can NEVER give my life away for a woman i "chose" to love. even the love i have for my children is different than the love i have for my parents.

Women don't understand respect. They want love and affection. You honour them with your love.

i dont know about you, but what i have/feel for my father is the exact same thing i feel for my mother. the LOVE is the same; the HONOR is the same; the RESPECT is the same (regardless of who they are).

Is a woman deserving of love? Why does she deserved to be loved?
That useless love which is a misnomer for lust will render one useless and pitiable.

again, its obvious your issue is not with MEN being proud about themselves, its about women (as the enemy or something).

This is what weak men use to console themselves. How would a woman bring the best out of a man? By nagging, sleeping around, wasting his money on frivolities or how?

its obvious by your above writeup that you have never met a good woman, thus why you think like the way you do... if you believe that nagging/sleeping around and wasting a man's money is only what describes all women out there (while any smart man understand that it only describe useless good for nothing liability women), then no wonder you open such a thread.
AGAIN: if you've never met a good woman, with great character, intelligent, hardworking, caring, compassionate, etc...then the problem is YOU, not women.

How did a woman bring the best out of Nikola Tesla, Isaac Newton, Leonardo or Will Smith, and many more who have fallen by the snares of women?

why dont you equally look at the MILLIONS of great married men out there who were happily married? or do you solely use these above handful men to judge billions of women out there? BTW quickly remove the undercover homo on your above list with entanglement issues.

Again and again. The 21st century woman is not a good woman.

says who? just because you see all these yeye good for nothing liability on SM posting foolish pictures and saying stupid shiit, doesnt mean that ALL WOMEN are liability good for nothing pay as you go oloshoes.

Why should a man be scared of living alone, who should a man wanna share his good time or bad time with anybody? Those men are like babies, they are idiots. They make me feel nauseated. Ew! I even feel like throwing up thinking about it.

a man shouldnt be scared of living alone, just like he shouldnt be scared to live with someone and sharing his life with someone. only a very sad person would want to be in his huge mansion sharing his life with nobody, apart from part time yeye women just there for a handout and good times, and when times are tough (OR money don finish) these women dont give a damn about you. same women that wouldnt even look at you if you didnt pay them to be around you.
if a woman doesnt desire to be with you when you are down/sad/broke, then this woman does not deserve to be in your life when you are up/good/wealthy. so who will you spend your life with? dirty oloshoes that anybody can buy with a few Nairas?! is that the type of life you see for yourself?! do you hate women so much that you'd rather be with yeye good for nothing pay as you go oloshoes than finding a good/intelligent woman for yourself?

FRANCISTOWN:

There are rules to becoming a man. A man that lives without rules is nothing but an animal.

Yes, you must live by rules and principles but they should be the ones you set for yourself.
Why? Those so-called rules you're talking about were formulated by people like you, I, and some random content creators(a woman could be among or even a teenager...who knows?).

Being a male is a natural thing. Becoming a man is a result of training, long suffering, discipline and intelligence.

Exactly my point! Training, discipline, and intelligence can be done and achieved with self development. Long suffering on the other hand is part of the psycho-social factors I talked about previously.

If being a man is a result of upbringing and exposure? Would boys who grow up amidst Trans and weak men be also classified as men?
Think.

Going by exposure and upbringing alone, those kind of males cannot be called real men. But exposure and upbringing is not the only thing that makes men. Why do we see a male that grew up among all girls becoming feminine and weak, yet, another male with similar background is masculine and a man? SELF IMPROVEMENT!

Self improvement is not what makes you a man. AI self improves itself, the other gender improve themselves too. Does that make them a man?

I should have mentioned that to become a man, one of the basic requirements is to be a male. If a female carries out self improvement, she'll be a valuable "woman". If a male carries out self improvement, he'll be a masculine and valuable "man".

Being a man is living by principles and discipline. A male is different from a man.

How do I even expect everyone to understand this?

Yes, living by principles... that you deem fit and realize is necessary during the course of your self improvement and personal development!

Been a man is knowing your responsibility. Knowing when to exercise power and when to constraint. It's a life of constant decision making process in order to balance work and family life.

MrBrownJay1:


if a man ever needs financial assistance then let him ask his own family and friends BEFORE going to take a yeye loan from any thieving banks or loan app. i'd rather my family/friends came to me for financial help because if i can help then of course i will. thats what friends and family are also here for.
the reason why so many brothas fail is because they think they can figure shiit out by themselves while help is just a question away (but their misplaced ego is in the way of common sense)

This is not about ego. This is what I've tested and handled. I know what I've done for people and how I've come thru for them. But I'd rather I took loan everyday of this life than run to anybody for financial assistance.

Try BOI. They offer a great loan plan.

MrBrownJay1:

so being sad is not being emotional, abi? remember, being happy is also being emotional, being upset is also being emotional.
as a father, i cried tears of joy (like a baby) when i saw my 1st son being born; as a brother, i cried like a baby when my dear brother passed away... and there is nothing wrong with a man being emotional, this is something completely NORMAL. it doesnt make you a woman, it doesnt make you weak, it makes you HUMAN... only a very evil person would not shed a tear when his parents/sibling pass away.

Asunkungbade. Why should I cry because I'm having my first kid? Why? Haha, I don't understand o. If I were to be your elder brother and I saw you crying. I would have slapped your cheeks.

Being sad may be a result of pain or hurt, being happy may be a result of enjoyment or contentment.
Do you cry after eating a lovely meal to your satisfaction?

MrBrownJay1:

the above are not men, the above are yeye people who think that they can recreate in a wife what they have for their mother. WRONG!!!! your mother is your mother, she is unique and can NEVER BE COPIED/REPLACED by any woman; your wife is NOT your mother and will never remotely be your mother; you are highly confused if you expect your wife to be the same as your mother. your mother gave you life; your mother breastfed you; your parents raised you for +20yrs and made you the man you are today, how dare you want to compare them with a woman you just met a few months/years ago?

Then of what use is a wife?

MrBrownJay1:

BWAAAAAAAAAAH so this is what this thread is really all about... abeg, open a new thread on this exact subject and lets discuss this issue... which really is that; YOU have never met a good/intelligent woman or that YOU cant attract a good/intelligent woman

This thread is about men. Not about plants and animals. Men should begin see themselves as the perfect work of nature.

MrBrownJay1:

its called the right person FOR YOU... and that person is mostly easy to find. if you've met tons of women in your life and never met a perfect woman then the problem is YOU.

I insist that there is no such thing as the right person. Not in this 21st century. The right person you think you've seen is basically a woman that her cover is yet to be blown or is yet to receive a great deal of power.

People who are a mess today once thought they also found the right person.

Right person my foot.

MrBrownJay1:

there is nothing wrong with having an emotion but sadly, men like you automatically assume that being emotional means a man is weak. being SAD means you are emotional.. didnt you just write you were sad when your best friend passed away? although useless to you, thats how you felt and there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT NOR WEAK ABOUT THAT.
Btw remember, emotions can also be HAPPINESS, PRIDE, HOPE, THANKFUL, LOVE etc.

My sadness was due to pain. Pain sometimes may not be the result of emotion. If I hit my head on the wall. Will I not be sad about it?
By the way. That was many many years ago.

MrBrownJay1:

there are plenty of moments in life when a man can cry (tears of sorrow/joy) and that doesnt make a man weak... it makes a man HUMAN

It makes a man an idiot. A cry baby.
Imagine you are crying and your kids are crying too. What a family of town criers.

MrBrownJay1:

so now its ok for a man to cry (aka be emotional), so long as nobody sees him cry? again, thats your misplaced ego talking...

If you're a man and you are seeing this thread. If you liked, go dey cry around like one short mythical being wey dey carry mat and lantern around. Yoruba people dey call am egbere.

Men are kings. How does it even look when a king cry because he's emotional at the presence of his subjects?

MrBrownJay1:

as much as i am an atheist... i disagree with you on this point too. many of these religious people believe that by submitting to their holybook's teaching, they will live a better/righteous life. some people out there need the guidance that their holybook gives them. i dont need a holybook to show me right from wrong, but its obvious these religious people do. to each their own way of life, so long as it aint criminal or against our knowledge of right/wrong.

Submitting to their holy books is different from submitting to their pastors.

MrBrownJay1:

i LOVE, honor and respect my father and mother because they gave me life, raised me, instill the right value in me and made me who i am today... and as much as i love/honor/respect the mothers of my children, it certainly aint the same thing, i love/honor and respect these women for a completely different reason. i can die for my parents (even though they probably wont let me), i can NEVER give my life away for a woman i "chose" to love. even the love i have for my children is different than the love i have for my parents.

I can't die for my parents. Worse comes to worst, I can only die for my kids. There is no other human being in the picture.

MrBrownJay1:

i dont know about you, but what i have/feel for my father is the exact same thing i feel for my mother. the LOVE is the same; the HONOR is the same; the RESPECT is the same (regardless of who they are).

If my mom calls be and goes like, "My son, I'd like to see you by weekend."
If I'm gonna be busy. I'd say "I'm sorry, not this weekend but Polly next".

If my father said the same thing. I'll make sure I find a way around seeing him by weekend.

Respect and love are two different things.

MrBrownJay1:

again, its obvious your issue is not with MEN being proud about themselves, its about women (as the enemy or something).

I'm failing to understand what must have given you this impression.

MrBrownJay1:

its obvious by your above writeup that you have never met a good woman, thus why you think like the way you do... if you believe that nagging/sleeping around and wasting a man's money is only what describes all women out there (while any smart man understand that it only describe useless good for nothing liability women), then no wonder you open such a thread.
AGAIN: if you've never met a good woman, with great character, intelligent, hardworking, caring, compassionate, etc...then the problem is YOU, not women.

AGAIN: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD WOMAN. THE 21ST CENTURY WOMAN IS NOT A GOOD WOMAN

MrBrownJay1:

why dont you equally look at the MILLIONS of great married men out there who were happily married? or do you solely use these above handful men to judge billions of women out there? BTW quickly remove the undercover homo on your above list with entanglement issues.

You will think they have a great marriage until the husband conducts a DNA test on all his kids. By the way. Those marriages are not 21st century marriage.

MrBrownJay1:

says who? just because you see all these yeye good for nothing liability on SM posting foolish pictures and saying stupid shiit, doesnt mean that ALL WOMEN are liability good for nothing pay as you go oloshoes.

The 21st century woman is really good for nothing. Let's not lie to ourselves.
Give me just one good thing that a 21st century is good for that can't be found elsewhere. And I'll deactivate my account and never visit NL again.

MrBrownJay1:

a man shouldnt be scared of living alone, just like he shouldnt be scared to live with someone and sharing his life with someone. only a very sad person would want to be in his huge mansion sharing his life with nobody, apart from part time yeye women just there for a handout and good times, and when times are tough (OR money don finish) these women dont give a damn about you. same women that wouldnt even look at you if you didnt pay them to be around you.

And if the money doesn't finish, what happens?
Living with a woman is annoying, irritating
and nauseating. Oh my Jeez. Ew! Except she's your daughter. 20years down the line, looking at flabby arms and sagger face. You'd feel like dying.

MrBrownJay1:

if a woman doesnt desire to be with you when you are down/sad/broke, then this woman does not deserve to be in your life when you are up/good/wealthy.

Why should a woman be with me whether I'm sad/broke/happy/wealthy/or whatever state I'm in?
Men are really a lost cause. Why should a woman be there. Unless for material, financial gain and societal pressures. Women don't even want men to be there. It's only the men who are desperate for women. Women are not desperate for men.

MrBrownJay1:

so who will you spend your life with? dirty oloshoes that anybody can buy with a few Nairas?! is that the type of life you see for yourself?! do you hate women so much that you'd rather be with yeye good for nothing pay as you go oloshoes than finding a good/intelligent woman for yourself?

I guess this is where we are getting each other wrongly. My question is, why must you spend your life with a woman at all? Be it dirty hookers, Single mothers, not single mothers, unintelligent women, "intelligent" women or whatever women or anybody at all, except your relatives.
Why must there always be a woman in the picture?
The more I grow in years and cash, the more I feel the needlessness of a woman.
Is it just me, or does anybody else feel like vomiting just seeing a woman who is not a relative?

2braithe:

Yes, you must live by rules and principles but they should be the ones you set for yourself.
Why? Those so-called rules you're talking about were formulated by people like you, I, and some random content creators(a woman could be among or even a teenager...who knows?).

The food you are eating today were discovered by men like you and the city you live in today was founded by men like you. The technologies you use today were invented by men like you. Do you now understand my point?

2braithe:

Going by exposure and upbringing alone, those kind of males cannot be called real men. But exposure and upbringing is not the only thing that makes men. Why do we see a male that grew up among all girls becoming feminine and weak, yet, another male with similar background is masculine and a man? SELF IMPROVEMENT!

Self improvement in the aspect of learning to be a man. The dos and don'ts of a man.
A man lives a principled life, unlike plant and animals . That's why you hardly see a man go on to social media and start shaking his ass or his prick for likes and comments.
We are beings of principles and rules.

2braithe:

I should have mentioned that to become a man, one of the basic requirements is to be a male. If a female carries out self improvement, she'll be a valuable "woman". If a male carries out self improvement, he'll be a masculine and valuable "man".

A woman can learn to be a man. You can be a woman and learn to be a man.

Self-Made Man: My Year Disguised as a Man is a 2006 book by journalist Norah Vincent, recounting an 18-month experiment in which she disguised herself as a man and then integrated into traditionally male-only venues, such as a bowling league and a monastery.

I don't usually read books authored by women because most of them don't always have sense. But you can read the summary of that book up there.
The woman realized she couldn't cope with being a man as there are many rules and principles a man must uphold, lest he would be seen as a less of the pack.

2braithe:

Yes, living by principles... that you deem fit and realize is necessary during the course of your self improvement and personal development!

Oh oh! And that's why we have people like Bobrisky, Jayboogie and other non-binary idiots.
A man is a being of principles.

FRANCISTOWN:
This is not about ego. This is what I've tested and handled. I know what I've done for people and how I've come thru for them. But I'd rather I took loan everyday of this life than run to anybody for financial assistance. Try BOI. They offer a great loan plan.

again, what you are saying makes very little sense... so you have family/friends that could assist you financially, yet you wouldnt ask them because you are too proud to ask... yet you are ok with going to beg financial assistance to a bank that will charge you commission for it?!
does the above even make sense to you or are you so blinded by your misplaced ego that you dont even see it?

Asunkungbade. Why should I cry because I'm having my first kid? Why? Haha, I don't understand o. If I were to be your elder brother and I saw you crying. I would have slapped your cheeks.

what a sad statement you just made... so to you, tears of joy are also wrong abi? so you are saying that if your younger brother is crying of joy from seeing his first child coming out of the loin of his woman, happy and joyful that his child came out healthy and with all its limbs etc, you would slap him to stop him from being emotional about such an important event in his life? what kind of sad person are you that would kill a person's joy for life? whats wrong with you that you even have a problem with the joy of life?

Being sad may be a result of pain or hurt, being happy may be a result of enjoyment or contentment.
Do you cry after eating a lovely meal to your satisfaction?

all of the above are emotional state... and there are different levels of being emotional. so you will now compare the joy of something you do 3 times everyday since you were born (aka having a meal) with having your 1st child? you want to compare being sad because your car has a flat tyre (for example) with being sad because your parent died?

Then of what use is a wife?

now that you are an independent adult man, probably living on your own:
- would you have your mother as your lifelong companion (like she is to your father), or is that not the marital duty of your future wife??
- would you have sex with your mother to create your own family lineage, or is that not the marital duty of your future wife?
- would you call your mother to counsel you and give you life advices after a long day at work, or is that not the marital duty of your future wife?
- would you now call you mother to care/nurture you when you are down, or is that not the marital duty of your future wife?
- would you ask your mother to raise your children or is that not the marital duty of your future wife?
- when you come home after a long day at work, would you ask your mother to give you a relaxing massage or is that not the marital duty of your future wife?
etc etc etc

again, you wife is NOT your mother, and vice versa! if you dont understand this simple concept, then no wonder you cant find a good woman out there. you are seeking for a mother, and since you have only ONE mother, you best go back to your mama's place if this is what you are seeking in life.

This thread is about men. Not about plants and animals. Men should begin see themselves as the perfect work of nature.

we ARE... and just like women are too. we go hand in hand in this world. a man without woman is NOTHING. this world without both men AND women is nothing. so just as we should praise men, let us not forget that we also have mothers that also should be praised because that part because of them that we are here...same as our grandmas, sisters, aunts etc

I insist that there is no such thing as the right person. Not in this 21st century. The right person you think you've seen is basically a woman that her cover is yet to be blown or is yet to receive a great deal of power.

ok sir, if thats what you believe then fair enough. i meet perfect women everyday. perfect to me starts with their physical outlook/beauty and then as you get to know them, you discover their character. so if you've met countless of perfect women physically and after talking to all of them, none had the proper character then i have to say it again: the problem is you (not these women)... and you should either change the way you look for these women or WHERE you go look for these women.

People who are a mess today once thought they also found the right person.
Right person my foot.

you have to understand that as much as some people are perfect for one another... with time, and with whatever interaction you may have together, that person may change. it all has to do with how you guys grow together. some people can be perfect today and after a few years they no longer are perfect...this can be due to childbirth, marital issues, marital boredom, marital abuse, marital neglect etc
but ALSO, some out there remain perfect for one another for decades.

My sadness was due to pain. Pain sometimes may not be the result of emotion. If I hit my head on the wall. Will I not be sad about it?
By the way. That was many many years ago.

if you hit your head on the wall, you will be EMOTIONAL because you hit your head on the wall. its the pain that brought that emotion, just like anything else that makes us emotional on this earth. some people get emotional because they went on a rollercoaster, others because they bought their dream car/house. same emotion, different reason.

It makes a man an idiot. A cry baby. Imagine you are crying and your kids are crying too. What a family of town criers.

as a father, my duty is to make my children understand that there is nothing wrong with being emotional. i am never gonna try to pretend to be someone i am not, in order to fit in this yeye belief that daddy is superman. hell no! daddy is human, and its a NATURAL HUMAN EMOTION to cry. telling your male children that its wrong to cry, is not only a failed way to raise a child, i would even call it abuse.

you see the problem here is that people like you. they DO cry, but you have such a misplaced ego (you are so proud of yourself for no damn reason) that you would go and hide to cry, and PRETEND IN FRONT OF THE WORLD TO BE WHO YOU ARE NOT,

Men are kings. How does it even look when a king cry because he's emotional at the presence of his subjects?

it shows his subjects that he is HUMAN like them... rather than pretending to be a tough king, and then go cry yourself to sleep in the darkness. same fake nonsense that politicians do, they will tell you all the right things to get elected, but all of it is pretense to get the job (but NEVER to get the job done). i guess we are different... i will never lie to my children, i will never pretend to be who i am not to my children so that they fully well know how to deal with me, rather than raising them with this fake attitude,, aka being a stranger (same goes with their mother)

Submitting to their holy books is different from submitting to their pastors.

same thing... the pastor is the wifi password to get to the internet (aka god) connection

I can't die for my parents. Worse comes to worst, I can only die for my kids. There is no other human being in the picture.

i respect that... and i am sure you would also do it without being emotional, right?

If my mom calls be and goes like, "My son, I'd like to see you by weekend."
If I'm gonna be busy. I'd say "I'm sorry, not this weekend but Polly next".
If my father said the same thing. I'll make sure I find a way around seeing him by weekend.
Respect and love are two different things.

i guess we are different on this issue... i treat both my parents equally as they are exactly the same thing (aka the same value) to me. there is no preferential treatment for any of them. i respect honor love and cherish them the same way.

I'm failing to understand what must have given you this impression.

lol,your below statement (you just made) gave me this impression:
AGAIN: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD WOMAN. THE 21ST CENTURY WOMAN IS NOT A GOOD WOMAN

You will think they have a great marriage until the husband conducts a DNA test on all his kids. By the way. Those marriages are not 21st century marriage.

the amount of marriages that have paternity fraud is less than 1%, let us not try to make it seem like it happens everywhere and everyday. just because we hear about a few paternity fraud (while not focussing on the millions of marriages without any paternity fraud)
if thats why you base your negative claim on women, then its not accurate.

The 21st century woman is really good for nothing. Let's not lie to ourselves.
Give me just one good thing that a 21st century is good for that can't be found elsewhere. And I'll deactivate my account and never visit NL again.

pls rephrase the above as i dont understand exactly what you meant... but if you meant:"what 21st century women are good for?, then i will reply:"THE EXACT SAME THING 20TH CENTURY WOMEN WERE GOOD FOR"

And if the money doesn't finish, what happens?

if money doesnt finish then you are still a lonely man surrounded by pay as you go useless oloshoes who wouldnt even spit on you if you were on fire.

Living with a woman is annoying, irritating and nauseating. Oh my Jeez. Ew! Except she's your daughter. 20years down the line, looking at flabby arms and sagger face. You'd feel like dying.

ALLELUJAH!!!! finally you are showing us all were your dislike for women comes from... hopefully someday you will find someone that does not irritate/annoy you for you to have great relationship with.

Why should a woman be with me whether I'm sad/broke/happy/wealthy/or whatever state I'm in?
Men are really a lost cause. Why should a woman be there. Unless for material, financial gain and societal pressures. Women don't even want men to be there. It's only the men who are desperate for women. Women are not desperate for men.

this is where you lost me... here you are trying to focus on how great men are and calling us the perfect work of nature BLA BLA BLA... yet you dont understand that a woman should be with you FIRST AND FOREMOST because you are a great human being, and as your are proud of who you are, this is what you should proudly present to women. be here you are asking "why should women be there when you are sad/broke etc, and instead you are claiming that they should only be there for material/financial gain" BWAAAAAAAAH!!! no wonder you cant find a good woman in your life if this is the type of woman you go for.
here is my advice to you: if a woman is solely with you for material/financial gain then that useless wh0re has no business being in your life... and you should get rid of that animal ASAP!

I guess this is where we are getting each other wrongly. My question is, why must you spend your life with a woman at all? Be it dirty hookers, Single mothers, not single mothers, unintelligent women, "intelligent" women or whatever women or anybody at all, except your relatives. Why must there always be a woman in the picture?

there is no need to always have a woman in the picture... but if one good woman present herself to the picture, then allow her in as it will make your life easier/better... rather than look at woman as the devil.

The more I grow in years and cash, the more I feel the needlessness of a woman.

ask yourself this simple question:
- why do you think that Jeff Bezos OR Bill Gates, after losing almost half of their fortune to their wife, still went ahead and get in a long term r/ship with other women?
- why do think that Elon Musk get so many divorces and yet still find babes to be with in long term relationship and impregnate?
the answer is very simple: as a heterosexual man, you need your own woman for companionship so you can enjoy the better things of life with someone worthy. AND to possibly bear you princes and princesses and build a family with... rather than laying down with dirty oloshoes that open their legs from Jide's bed to Tunde's back seat of his car to Ahmed's shop every day... to make a living.

Is it just me, or does anybody else feel like vomiting just seeing a woman who is not a relative?

i think its just you brotha... for the rest of us, diving into the wet sweet honeypot of a good/intelligent woman that sees you as her one and only; a woman that is willingly offering you her body FOR FREE and who is ready to please you in anyway shape or form, and treats you like the king that you are.. that is LIFE.
being a KING while having no woman to call your queen and/or nobody to treat you like a king (unless your houseboy/gateman and driver) that is no worthy kingdom. FACT!

A Man Must Be Able to Manned His World!

You made some salient points.

Nice one, OP 👍