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@habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 9:31pm On Jan 24, 2012
Become a muslim and be benefited. Your benefit will lead you to paradise. First your sins shall be forgiven you the moment you declared yourself as muslim. Your deeds prior to that time shall be immediately turned to benefit in the positive column upon your declaration. You will not be a zero zero on the positive and negative columns. But you will be all + in the positive column and zero in the negative column. You can not beat this deal, connecting you directly like Adam and Eve to your Lord God The Almighty Creator without a medium between you and Him.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by habiolah(m): 11:23pm On Jan 24, 2012
is this what the Quran teaches? Can this convince even you if you were not a muslim? What do you mean by positive and negative? Why do I need it? Adam and Eve were directly connected to God? Who says I'm not? Convince was the word, I'm sure you say that
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 1:09am On Jan 25, 2012
@Habiolah: « #1 on: Yesterday at 11:23:18 PM »
[Quote]is this what the Quran teaches?[/Quote]Yes. Are you not look for the success so that you receive the benefit of what success is?


[Quote] Can this convince even you if you were not a muslim?[/Quote]If you have wisdom less is enough to convince. I remember telling my wife that she needed to join me in worship of One God. that was the first time I was going to talk and or speak to her. I told her God is Single Entity and Perfectly Unique in every aspect and Complete and Capable to do all things. That was enough and she needed no more evidence.


[Quote] What do you mean by positive and negative?[/Quote]Sin is negative. The greatest of sins is saying God is not being acknowledged as he should. Some deny His existence. Some say He is not necessary. Other say He is more than 1. Some say He was hung. The positive is good deeds. Disbelievers in the grades I have mentioned above do not have real positive with God, but only in the eyes of men.


[Quote] Why do I need it?[/Quote] Since you are not a muslim, in the Eye of God, you have no positive. And when you have no positive equal to or greater than negative, there is no mercy of God for you on the Day of Assembly when everyone will be Judged. The Mercy of Allah will cover believers and their trial will be easy and they will be rewarded for being believers. Disbelievers will be punished as God Wills.


[Quote] Adam and Eve were directly connected to God?[/Quote]Yes. You dont expect God to cut them loose from His Mercy, considering that even in your Bible they lived in a garden where they did not have to sweat to have satisfaction. Is that not what everyone wants? Who is the Best Protector that if you are connected to Him, you have security but God Almighty, Alone? Why do you want to be abandoned by God? That will be disaster.


[Quote] Who says I'm not?[/Quote]Even wild beasts have minimal connection based on their instincts.


[Quote] Convince was the word, I'm sure you say that[/Quote]I extended invitation, it is you who must tell me why you are refusing and rejecting what will benefit your soul. If you become Muslim, you will now that your Creator is One Lord God and not some human made or dying human; mere mortal. If you want guidance, you need to ask questions and we shall address your problems.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by habiolah(m): 2:35am On Jan 25, 2012
did you mention the Bible somewhere there? Besides, I don't think that the best way to convince me is by insulting me.
What proof do you have that mohammed is not trying to take us for a ride? He went solely to some place, came back with a book after God knows how long, and says it was given him by an angel; how do we prove that what he said is true?
You seem to talk like you are sure I serve more than one God, I never told you that, so why assume?
Must Allah be fought for? Won't you prefer someone who can fight for you?
Have you shown me how you concluded that Islam is the way?
Don't yab please, I'm sure we can get our points across without it. Nagode
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by plappville(f): 3:16am On Jan 25, 2012
Sweetnecta:

Become a muslim and be benefited. Your benefit will lead you to paradise. First your sins shall be forgiven you the moment you declared yourself as muslim. Your deeds prior to that time shall be immediately turned to benefit in the positive column upon your declaration. You will not be a zero zero on the positive and negative columns. But you will be all + in the positive column and zero in the negative column. You can not beat this deal, connecting you directly like Adam and Eve to your Lord God The Almighty Creator without a medium between you and Him.


see what Muhammed taught

Mutilated for being raped. This women was 6 months pregnant when her husband cut off her nose, ears & tongue, & dug-out her eyes.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Images:Violence_Against_Women

Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by plappville(f): 3:20am On Jan 25, 2012
How dare Muslims still ve thir mouth to preach This wicked Blood socking doctrine?

Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by plappville(f): 3:23am On Jan 25, 2012
Rojda, a 13-year-old from Turkey, was raped, then forced to marry her rapist an unofficial Islamic-style ceremony. Her face was mutilated by her husband's family when she refused to prostitute herself after he was imprisoned for raping another child

Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 5:48am On Jan 25, 2012
^Plappville; Its not every thread you need to contribute in. this thread is a challenge to preach to habiolah. please frenchie, step aside.

@Habiolah: Posted by: habiolah
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did you mention the Bible somewhere there? Besides, I don't think that the best way to convince me is by insulting me.[/Quote]I have not insulted you. And if I did i may actually be within my right as your elder. Bible was mentioned because Quran is too sophisticated for you because Adama and Eve were created in heavens and they wee told to dwell in the garden in heaven. Until satan got them to disobey before they were sent down to earth. if i started from where its hard, your heart may not be able to take it.


[Quote]What proof do you have that mohammed is not trying to take us for a ride?[/Quote]There was not a single gain for him. he was a wealthy or well to do man and under islam he became a man who could not have the 3 daily meals. do you know a man who fought for something that run his finances to the ground?


[Quote] He went solely to some place, came back with a book after God knows how long, and says it was given him by an angel; how do we prove that what he said is true?[/Quote]What was this all about? where did you hear such a garbage? Who fed you with this fraud of a story? For 23 years he was in his community where many witnessed the revelation coming to him. Quran was not compiled into a single book, until he died.


[Quote]You seem to talk like you are sure I serve more than one God, I never told you that, so why assume?[/Quote]The Quran say the Christians have 3 entities in their God concept. You are saying Jesus is God, Yahweh/Jehovah and the ghost is God. thats multiple God and thats more than 1 God.


[Quote]Must Allah be fought for? Won't you prefer someone who can fight for you?[/Quote]I am not a sissy. SO if i were to fight I fight for myself, for my wife, for my family members.


[Quote]Have you shown me how you concluded that Islam is the way?[/Quote]I am a worshiper of One True Unseen God. That is different from 3 persons God. Allah says That "There is no God but God". Read Surah Ikhlas; Chapter 112. Allah is the One that every worship is due.


[Quote]Don't yab please, I'm sure we can get our points across without it. [b]Nagode[/b[/Quote]I am not hausa so why nagode. What does that mean? I though you will ask questions about the religion. You have not done that.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Nobody: 7:13am On Jan 25, 2012
Jesus died on the cross for my sins, He rose again and is sitted at the right hand of the Father with me.
His tomb is eveidence cos His bones are not there. He send His Holly Spirit to come and comfort me.
He gives me peace beyong human understanding! He is Mighty in Battle and the Muslim knows that. He fights for
me and not me fighting for Him. Why then should i believe in mohammed and his teachings when uptill date nothing
shows he should be taken serious. even ur post is too shallow to be convincing.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by habiolah(m): 7:50am On Jan 25, 2012
a right to insult me as my 'elder'? Whatever happened to respect being reciprocal. Nagode means thank you.
If the Quran teaches that the christians serve three Gods, then whoever wrote it must have gotten it all wrong; there is only one God, even a goat should know that.
Heard that the Quan says somewhere that you should kill those you preach to and do not believe; I hope you don't begin with me, and I sure don't want to do that in God's name.
So why must you face a particular direction when you pray and why must you pray bending down and rising up, and in a language many don't understand(my grandma has prayed like that all her life, and she doesn't seem to me to understand what she says to God j times everyday). Well, and why must it be five times? All the above sounds like tules and regulations of a very strict God
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by plappville(f): 11:39am On Jan 25, 2012
Posted by: Sweetnecta
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^Plappville; Its not every thread you need to contribute in. this thread is a challenge to preach to habiolah. please frenchie, step aside.

Those Photos are the best way to preach Islam, why hiding the truth? U want to drag others to the dark, u ve no good news to preach about Islam, if u must be truthful, u will accept that Islam is blood socking. Because these people are not ur family memebers, u don't feel for thir innocent death? Only God has the right to judge not Muhammed. I will keep exposing His evil doctrines here, Islam ve no more souls to drag to eternal condemnation here in NL.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by plappville(f): 11:43am On Jan 25, 2012
I have not insulted you. And if I did i may actually be within my right as your elder. Bible was mentioned because Quran is too sophisticated for you because Adama and Eve were created in heavens and they wee told to dwell in the garden in heaven. Until satan got them to disobey before they were sent down to earth. if i started from where its hard, your heart may not be able to take it.
Insult is nothing to Muslims, you and @lagosShia are chiefs when it comes to insults. U that have insulted me many times here of been enslaved etc. Go scroll threads and u will see how respectful Islam taught you people to be. Insulting others will not in anyway inpact ur words in the persons heart, its just a way to even prove how violence ur Religion is.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by plappville(f): 11:59am On Jan 25, 2012
from @Sweetnectar: The Quran say the Christians have 3 entities in their God concept. You are saying Jesus is God, Yahweh/Jehovah and the ghost is God. thats multiple God and thats more than 1 God.

1 Timothy 2:3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, [4] who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. [5] For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, [6] who gave himself as a ransom for all men,

I hope u get the bold and reject what ur Quran tells, a book framed up by a mere man is what u people hold on to.

1 Corinthians 3:11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Muhammed tried to lay some other foundation for salvation — for example, the killing for allah,  living a outward decent life by hiding of the face, forbiding to handle Carotte, bananas, cucumbers for intimate, (for their women to be precise)  but yet live horroble life; going to the Musque pray 5 times par day, etc. These are certainly pretendous good things to do, but they are not the foundation for salvation. Jesus and Jesus alone is the only foundation for our salvation. He alone is the Rock upon which we can take our eternal stand. All Other believe is sure sinking sand.

Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 1:15pm On Jan 25, 2012
^^ I will not dignify you with a response. I am a better way to preach Islam. I have looked at your profile and see your youth and know why you are fighting mad against good.

If I zero in on on you and say that all christian males and females behave like the nigerian male and the nigerian females who are having sex with each other from your church congregation in france, will i not be giving the best of christianity, preaching the quality of christianity? Let me remind you; i am talking about the man who you wanted to introduce your sister to, but he needed to hold body until then.

If you have posted inquires about islam, its creed, etc, i will not mind responding to you. look at the topic and respond to it. not just displaying abject ignorance like nikolai sarcozy your president.

if you want cucumber and carrots and sticky finger looking thingy, you know where to go for it, then; whatever float your boat since Jesus blood is what cover you and i am in the effort to open your eyes so that you can see how weak the blood concept it.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by proo212(m): 1:27pm On Jan 25, 2012
I will not address the insult because others have addressed it. What I have a problem with is this

did you mention the Bible somewhere there? Besides, I don't think that the best way to convince me is by insulting me.
I have not insulted you. And if I did i may actually be within my right as your elder. Bible was mentioned because Quran is too sophisticated for you because Adama and Eve were created in heavens and they wee told to dwell in the garden in heaven. Until satan got them to disobey before they were sent down to earth. if i started from where its hard, your heart may not be able to take it.

Adam and Eve were created in heaven and they were told to dwell in the garden in heaven, until satan got them to disobey before they were sent down to earth.

This is wrong. Why is this wrong?

1. Adam and Eve were in the garden of Eden when they disobeyed and God sent them out of the garden. This is what my bible says but not just because this what my bible says but because if satan had already been cast out of heaven when he disobeyed.

If so, how was he able to get back into heaven to tempt Adam and Eve?
Your belief is that allah uses the stars to stone satan any time he attempts to enter heaven, and obviously on this occasion he succeeded. Either the stars missed him or he sneaked in and managed to tempt them. So all  the angels were not aware that satan had sneaked in.

That means allah is not all powerful and knowing.

The logic does not compute
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 1:30pm On Jan 25, 2012
@Habiolah and plappville; « #12 on: Today at 11:59:37 AM »
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from @Sweetnectar: The Quran say the Christians have 3 entities in their God concept. You are saying Jesus is God, Yahweh/Jehovah and the ghost is God. thats multiple God and thats more than 1 God.

1 Timothy 2:3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, [4] who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.[/Quote] See. Even Timothy knows that God is the Savior and Jesus is not. Savior is never succumbing to defeat. Allah Almighty is the Savior.


[Quote] [5] For there is one God and one mediator [/b]between God and men,[/Quote]This makes you people just like the hindus. they have mediators, too. The yoruba religions are similar to you.


[Quote] the man Christ Jesus, [6] who [b]gave himself as a ransom for all men
,[/Quote]You made christ a mediator and you lied on him because he was no ransom for all men. read who Jesus himself said he came for and what he said he came to do. Timothy writer is lying on Jesus. I want you to quote jesus and not the crazies that are lying on him.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 2:34pm On Jan 25, 2012
@proo212: « #14 on: Today at 01:27:00 PM »
[Quote]I will not address the insult because others have addressed it. What I have a problem with is this

did you mention the Bible somewhere there? Besides, I don't think that the best way to convince me is by insulting me.
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I have not insulted you. And if I did i may actually be within my right as your elder. Bible was mentioned because Quran is too sophisticated for you because Adama and Eve were created in heavens and they wee told to dwell in the garden in heaven. Until satan got them to disobey before they were sent down to earth. if i started from where its hard, your heart may not be able to take it.

Adam and Eve were created in heaven and they were told to dwell in the garden in heaven, until satan got them to disobey before they were sent down to earth.

This is wrong. Why is this wrong?[/Quote]do you have evidence, that cant be refuted? let read your argument, below.



[Quote]1. Adam and Eve were in the garden of Eden when they disobeyed and God sent them out of the garden.[/Quote] note that i started with 'they were created in heaven". You started with naming a garden you cant locate that you claim was where they live. Is there an exact location that you or any christian or jew can give of Eden? There should remain a remnant of the garden or existence of its residents. Even you know where heaven is because you have to look up towards the heaven.



[Quote]This is what my bible says but not just because this what my bible says but because if satan had already been cast out of heaven when he disobeyed.[/Quote]Your Bible is wrong. If I use your judgement that satan was cast out of heaven when he disobeyed, does it then not logical that Adam and Eve reside in heaven a place forbidden to satan?



[Quote]If so, how was he able to get back into heaven to tempt Adam and Eve?[/Quote]From the Quran, it says it is a suggestion to their hearts/minds. He was not there physically because you will not see satan when he suggests to you or was satan physical with Jesus your God when he ran him into the wilderness for 40 days without foods, and the other times he made him hallucinated enough to curse a tree? Imagine when Paul said Jesus was curse reminds me of the aftermath of the fig tree. Imagine satan taking Jesus to the cliff, to the mountain top, asking him to worship him and then tormenting Peter the satan? All I am saying is that satan does his works of evil by suggestion and if Adam and Eve were on earth with him, he would not suggest as Quran said or come as snake as your bible formulated considering that satan was able to fight your God, why not just come straight in his nature to Adam and Even even forcing them since no one is protecting them [the biblical concept]?



[Quote]Your belief is that allah uses the stars to stone satan any time he attempts to enter heaven, and obviously on this occasion he succeeded[/Quote]No really. My believe is that the stars are missiles against the efforts of satan and his followers to listen to what is being said in heavens. Somebody before the invention of gun powder will not believe such a dusty/sandy thing can be an ingredient to propel a metal [bullet] to kill an elephant. today, you don't even need gun powder. How can you disprove what scares a subject that you cant see, but bold enough to make the time of Jesus unbearable, just like the jewish community did?



[Quote]Either the stars missed him or he sneaked in and managed to tempt them. So all the angels were not aware that satan had sneaked in.[/Quote]Allah had created Adam and Eve to be residents of earth. But they have to be tried in heaven and Paradise first so that there is a reason for them to come on earth to struggle it out for good and against evil if they are believers. Then they will have the Paradise as their good worthy of returning to. I am inviting you to a path that will lead you to Paradise and dont refuse because of arrogance.



[Quote]That means allah is not all powerful and knowing.

The logic does not compute[/Quote]Allah is All Powerful and All Knowing. He said to the angels I now what you know not. And in human's earthly history, we see good people who are believers in one God we see bad people who are disbelievers in One God. Which group are you going with?
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 2:46pm On Jan 25, 2012
how do the christians, especially Habiolah want muslims to preach about One God to them except that we give them the truth of Al Quran and Sunnah/Hadith for them to contrast it with the falsehood they have known in Trinity, etc where God is overcame, and killed.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by habiolah(m): 5:17pm On Jan 25, 2012
Sweetnecta:

how do the christians, especially Habiolah want muslims to preach about One God to them except that we give them the truth of Al Quran and Sunnah/Hadith for them to contrast it with the falsehood they have known in Trinity, etc where God is overcame, and killed.
God knows I didn't ask you to compare anything. You said there is one God, I said that is no news because I knew that earlier. Did you see the queestions I asked in my last response? Or I sorta missed the answers? You know, christians are not the only non-muslims in the world; this one that your entire religion is in response to what the Bible says.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 7:14pm On Jan 25, 2012
@Habiolah: The Bibles are not for christians alone. I am sure you remember the jews. We do talk to them as disbelievers because they take their rabbis and scholars as authority even over what God commanded over them. Example is the prayers; they are all in disagreement as the actual mode of worship. you will agree that Moses did not pray to any wall in Jerusalem and never told them to.

[Quote]« #9 on: Today at 07:50:00 AM »

a right to insult me as my 'elder'? Whatever happened to respect being reciprocal. Nagode means thank you.[/Quote]I am not hausa and when you speak a language that its not mine to me and I am not willing to learn it, should i say you are insulting me? Habiolah, you need to take am jeje.


[Quote]If the Quran teaches that the christians serve three Gods, then whoever wrote it must have gotten it all wrong; there is only one God, even a goat should know that.[/Quote]What you say is different from what you do, then its what you do that is the perception of people. Let me help you count your gods; Is Jesus not your God? Is the Ghost without a name not your God? Is Jehovah who sent Jesus not your God? How many God[s] have I listed for you? 3 is it not? Is 3 equal to 1? What kind of math is that?


[Quote]Heard that the Quan says somewhere that you should kill those you preach to and do not believe; I hope you don't begin with me, and I sure don't want to do that in God's name.[/Quote]Show me the verse and lets talk about it.


[Quote]So why must you face a particular direction when you pray[/Quote]Commandment of God that we must obey of we are sincerely obeying Him.


[Quote] and why must you pray bending down and rising up,[/Quote]Also commandments of God as in the above.


[Quote] and in a language many don't understand(my grandma has prayed like that all her life, and she doesn't seem to me to understand what she says to God j times everyday).[/Quote]Obedience does not have to be understood in to to. But obedience means reverence, love, etc. And with the lack of knowledge of your grandmother, she had raise the one who is your parent who in turn abandoned guidance and leading you to 3 gods. WHo is truly ignorant among the people except the one who says God has a son, God does not exist, God is irrelevant, God is many.


[Quote] Well, and why must it be five times?[/Quote]It was first 50 times and reduced in Mercy to 5 times. Even then you are complaining.


[Quote] All the above sounds like tules and regulations of a very strict God[/Quote]Imagine how strict a God Who killed one person in order to open the door for others who want to come in? Its like killing the gateman. Yet not everyone wants to come in. Imagine a God so strict He simply made a road map available to everyone who wants to get into the house that the door is already left open? Which one is showing greater love and best wishes? I say the one who didnt kill anyone.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by habiolah(m): 8:24pm On Jan 25, 2012
pray, how does being a son/daughter (to your parents), a father/mother (to your kids), and an husband/wife (to your spouse) make you three people? God is one, and he has revealed himself in three identities across time. I'm sure you won't get this anyway.
So, Jesus, even though being nailed to the cross asked for their forgiveness (according to the bible), Mohammed, being provoked (for God knows what) declared an 'holy' war (according to the quran). Jesus performed undeniable miracles (according to both bible and quran) but Mohammed performed none (as far as I know). Which of these would you kindly advise that I trust?
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 10:50pm On Jan 25, 2012
@Habiolah: « #20 on: Today at 08:24:41 PM »
[Quote]pray, how does being a son/daughter (to your parents), a father/mother (to your kids), and an husband/wife (to your spouse) make you three people?[/Quote]Imagine if person who is son/daughter, father/mother and husband/wife get killed? Tell me is there is any of the 3 still alive? The person is dead and buried means that all his/her position with whoever is killed and buried. If this is not the result, then know that it is not one person but 3 people/persons we are talking about.


[Quote]God is one, and he has revealed himself in three identities across time. I'm sure you won't get this anyway.[/Quote]Like father, son and husband? The death of anyone these means the death of the other 2. I am sure you get this. Or you dont?


[Quote]So, Jesus, even though being nailed to the cross asked for their forgiveness (according to the bible),[/Quote]Lets keep the 1 God in 3 functions going as to the nailing, I am taking it that you are saying that Jehovah and Ghost were nailed to the cross with Jesus?


[QUote] Mohammed, being provoked (for God knows what) declared an 'holy' war (according to the quran).[/QUote]Muhammad [as] came 610 years later. How far back before his birth did he had the holy war? Habiolah.


[Quote] Jesus performed undeniable miracles (according to both bible and quran) but Mohammed performed none (as far as I know).[/Quote]Muhammad split the moon. Muhammad threw dust into the eyes of the enemies of Allah and the Quraishi were defeated in the battle of Badr. I can give you miracles that will make other miracles like high school chemistry lab experiment. Have you heard of Isra wa Miraj?


[Quote] Which of these would you kindly advise that I trust?[/Quote]Allah, The Quran, Muhammad [as]. You know, a friend is babysitting her grandson in Georgia talks to me daily about this child. Everyday, I hear the boy shout a little strong and louder. I asked his grandmother how "Evans" is doing. She said God is powerful; here was this little thing months ago. He was helpless. helpless now, but not as he used to be. But everyday, he shows greater signs of independence; he babbles now. He suddenly started crawling without anyone telling him. This boy is now flexing his muscles, making his presence known. This sister, the grandmother was telling me that only with the birth of this grandson did it done on her that delivery is instinctive, just like everything else that God programmed in man. She said the stomach contractions are what force baby out of the cozy belly of mother.
the same boy in 20 years from now will be a college kid and will not need anybody but only advises and guidance. Imagine that. Now you said Jesus is God in one form and I suggest that the other two forms are inseparable with him. Otherwise your illustration and evidence for him being God is defeated, I imagine when the ghost was overshadowing Mary. Jesus and Yahweh were there too in the overshadowing. I imagine when Jesus was just a fee weeks old inside the mother that the others were there. I imagine all the breas.t milk that jesus took from Mary. Yahweh and ghost must be there being fed by this young girl; 3 males on her alone. Terrible men. Then i imagine all the difficulties of infancy, youth, etc. They were all in it. The when Jesus was begging Ellah, ghost, Yahweh were also begging. I imagine your claims that he was hung. So were the other two. Habiolah; how do you like you 1 God dead? This alone is enough to invite you to pray with grandma. Whichever one of your parents in her child needs to join you. Otherwise, you people have been unjust to her.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by habiolah(m): 11:20pm On Jan 25, 2012
bla bla bla bla, As if I didn't know you cannot understand it. I have said only one sentence, and a book is being written on it. If you lack understanding of it and you really think it's worth understanding, you'l ask. You make it look as if it is my job to convince you, that's way off the mark.
An Allah says I must pray facing a black house in mecca (only God knows whats inside), he says I must pray five times daily, in a language that I don't understand, that my trousers must not reach the ground, and I must wash myself before daring to pray to him.
God says it doesnt matter what directiin I face (since he isnt confined to a building), he says I could pray as many times as I like, and I could pray in my own language, and relate to him like a father
you know, I'll go for the latter anyday anytime.
Gbam!!!
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by LogicMind: 1:47am On Jan 26, 2012
'Strict Muslim' raped four women at knifepoint to 'punish them for being on the streets at night'

Sunny Islam, 23, kidnapped and raped girl, 15
Subjected victims to his 'trademark double rape'
Attacks took place over 2 months in east London
Jailed indefinitely due to danger he poses to women

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Sunny Islam, 23, has been jailed indefinitely because of the dangers he poses to women

Sunny Islam, 23, has been jailed indefinitely because of the dangers he poses to women

A Muslim man who raped women to 'teach them a lesson' for being on the streets at night was jailed indefinitely today because of the danger he poses to women.

Sunny Islam, 23, who comes from a strict Muslim family, dragged his terrified victims - including a 15-year-old - from the street at knifepoint, bound and assaulted them during a two-month reign of terror.

Police fear that Islam may have attacked many more.

Three of the assaults took place close to his home in Barking, east London, while a fourth occurred in nearby Forest Gate.

Judge Patricia Lees, sentencing him to a minimum of 11 years, said: 'The harm you have done to your victims is incalculable.

'The nature and extent of these offences drives me to the conclusion that you represent an extreme and continuing danger to women, particularly those out at night.'

He was traced through the number plate of his girlfriend's car after he kidnapped and raped the 15-year-old in September 2010.

He grabbed her from behind as she walked home with a friend and bundled her into the car at knifepoint before driving to a secluded spot where he raped her twice despite her claiming she was only 11 years old.

Judge Lees said: 'You told her you were going to "teach her a lesson", and similar things were said to the other women.

'Those words are a chilling indictment of your very troubling attitude towards all of these victims.

'You seem to observe women out at night as not deserving respect or protection.
After his arrest, Islam's DNA was linked with three other attacks near his home in Barking, east London

After his arrest, Islam's DNA was linked with three other attacks near his home in Barking, east London

'I have no doubt that you were out that night looking for a victim, as you were on each of these occasions.'

The teen, who feared she would be murdered, was in court and smiled as her attacker was jailed.

In a victim impact statement read to the court, she said: 'No one will ever understand the flashbacks - they are so real. At night, I lay in my bed and it is like I am there.

'It is like a screen in my mind forcing me to relive that night again and again.

'People will say time will heal, but I think time has helped me accept the truth - that I will never escape what has happened to me.'

After his arrest, Islam's DNA was linked with three other attacks near his home in Barking, prosecutor Sara Lawson told Woolwich Crown Court.
'He treated me like an animal and made me feel worthless. I thought I was going to die'

The judge said on July 8, 2010 he subjected a 20-year-old prostitute to 'his trademark double rape' and then tied her up, repeatedly punched her in the face and stole her wallet.

She said: 'He treated me like an animal and made me feel worthless - I thought I was going to die.'

Six days later, in Forest Gate, he struck again on a 28-year-old when he dragged her into his car and forced her to commit a sex act.

She managed to kick out the back window of his car and escape despite being throttled.

His fourth victim, also attacked in September, did not come forward until police found the 31-year-old's blood in the back of the car along with a knife he used to threaten his victims and plastic ties he bound them with.

She was repeatedly repeatedly punched in the face until she was bleeding and then tied up and raped twice.
Islam, who told the jury he was a practising Muslim, was convicted of seven charges of rape, one of sexual assault and one of kidnap at Woolwich Crown Court

Islam, who told the jury he was a practising Muslim, was convicted of seven charges of rape, one of sexual assault and one of kidnap at Woolwich Crown Court

Islam, who told the jury he was a practising Muslim, was convicted of seven charges of rape, one of sexual assault and one of kidnap.

Tana Adkin, defending, said: 'The only piece of mitigation is his age. He was 21 at the time of these offences and comes from something of a strict background.'

His mother, in religious dress, sat with her covered head bowed throughout and wept as her son was jailed.

Judge Lees said: 'The fact that you have attacked these women not withstanding your background must represent your own wholly warped personality.'

After the trial, Det Chief Insp John Sandlin, of the Homicide and Serious Crime Command who investigated the offences, said they believed there may be other victims who had not come forward, but Islam has not been charged with any further offences.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2091669/Sunny-Islam-Strict-Muslim-raped-4-women-knifepoint-punish-them.html
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 11:01am On Jan 26, 2012
^^^^ What a muslim does is on him, based on what Islam is about using the Quran and Sunnah/Hadith. Never a time my wife says "baby i am not in the mood" did i impose myself on her. i cook for her and between us is almost 2 decades, and she is a fully matured 37 woman.

@Habiolah: « #22 on: Yesterday at 11:20:38 PM »
[Quote]bla bla bla bla, As if I didn't know you cannot understand it.[/Quote]So how do you explain your statement that Jesus was hung for you while Jehovah was still intact as Ellah God of all, except that they are different Gods? Habiolah, my blah, blah, blah, make sense, and in that same vain, grandma had used the same blah, blah, blah to raise your parent and in turn raised you. neither you nor her child is grateful to her, considering that jesus you made to God prayed exactly as she is praying. You have dhown the same ungratefulness t her and Jesus her co religionist.


[Quote] I have said only one sentence, and a book is being written on it. If you lack understanding of it and you really think it's worth understanding, you'l ask.[/Quote]I have dealt with christians all my life; my mother who finally reverted into islam knowing fully well Jesus was neither God nor son of God. my high school was a christian school where you forced to read the bible and go to church. my life in college was mostly around christians. you cant avoid them in north america. my marriage before my current one. my business life. i read the bible many times than i really want to remember. what is it that christian provides? the many gods or god sons, even many begotten sons, the dead son or god himself that even after it some christians who performed miracles in his name will go to hell? please i need to know why i should accept the ever changing so many version book as the unadulterated and unchanging word of God? are you using your sense, Habiolah?


[Quote] You make it look as if it is my job to convince you, that's way off the mark.[/Quote]remember you wanted muslim to preach to you. you are not asking questions, instead throwing dirt. i see why though; you are an ungrateful soul with a heart harder than a stone, considering your remark against your muslim grandmother! In her lack of knowledge, she managed to bear your parent who revolted against her and she is a testimony of the patience in Islam.


[Quote]An Allah says I must pray facing a black house in mecca (only God knows whats inside),[/QUote]while there is nothing inside the "black house", have you imitated Jesus in his night prayers at the gethsemane? if he prayed that many times at night, imagine if he prayed less times during the day? have you asked why Jesus was made to pray as he did and if you abandon it, that you have abandoned Jesus, considering the fact that he said his God is Ellah and you say Jesus is your God, Jehovah is your God, Ghost is also your God?


[Quote] he says I must pray five times daily, in a language that I don't understand, that my trousers must not reach the ground, and I must wash myself before daring to pray to him.[/QUote]The yorubas wear kembe. Kembe does not reach the ground and its worn by those who are wealthy. washing up is sign of cleanliness in addition of it indicating to you a starting point for a new commitment and preparedness to submit to God's Command like Abraham did. Do you have to be clean and or renewal of relationship to God without any between you? your excused are so illogical and shows that your mind is not functioning correctly. Do you disagree with your college professors when you are given the course materials and expect to pass at the end of the semester? Yet all of the academia is nothing compared to obedience to God.


[Quote]God says it doesnt matter what directiin I face (since he isnt confined to a building),[/QUote]And you go to church? You see how dishonest you are? I wonder why you attend church or even follow the bible if God even in your mind does not have rules for you? you should be free from following any rule. but your disingenuous statement shows that you are biased. You should have convinced grandma, if you know it all.


[Quote] he says I could pray as many times as I like,[/Quote]SHow me. I want the verse or verses. You are in a pickle buddy. If you think you are talking to a foo.l, look in the mirror.


[Quote] and I could pray in my own language,[/QUote]I am sure you have seen grandma "rawo si Olorun Oba" and speak in yoruba langage or you people abandoned her already? I will not be surprised if you did.


[QUote] and relate to him like a father[/QUote]How do people relate to fathers? Let me talk about my experience. When you children were young, they will "fowo ko milorun". They used to give me kisses; when babies on the lips, then as they grew, it was on the cheeks. Then we graduated to handshakes. We talk and see one another. They seek my advise and I their opinions. They hear my voice and I theirs. WHich of these do you and God you claim to be your father fraternize by? You can't just talk and think you will not b challenged, habiolah.


[Quote]you know, I'll go for the latter anyday anytime.
Gbam!!![/Quote]A soul that is ungrateful will have to remorse in choosing what is baseless. I think you need to re access your condition.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by habiolah(m): 5:08pm On Jan 26, 2012
did Allah teach you to insult people who don't see the sense in what you say? God knows I am supposed to even pray for you and bless you when you even curse. Do not waste your time. If you want to know what mohammed told you people to do, go to northern nigeria during the post election violence (I was there, saw mohammed at work - firsthand). If you know what they call sango, he has a pattern through which he must be worshippd; and so does all other gods - works of men. You view God like a man and confuse yourself on end.
The only thing you've said that seemed to have made sense is that God is one, and I told you I knew that already. The rest are yabs (me n ma parents) and , (God knows what); that's what Islam teaches, I understand. You need not ask questions before I teach you what the bible teaches, here you are asking me to ask questions before you remember what the quran teaches; like I know anything about it. I understand that you don't convert people by telling them stuffs, you simply brandish cutlass, and they accept. LWFMF
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 8:52pm On Jan 26, 2012
^^^^^^^^ You are the same grandson yapping his grandma, and you said i am yapping your parents, who are not loyal to their parents? what are you on?
Should I go to the north of nigeria to know what Islam is? How about Islam in western countries; how it has made hardcore criminals to pillars of their community.

Habiolah, you want to remain christian, thats your thing. But dont say you want Lagosshia preach to you and i took the chance of doing, if you are not serious about it. you are grown man, so you cant behave like a baby.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by LogicMind: 1:32am On Jan 27, 2012
Fight!, fight!, fight!, fight!.

Me and satan are enjoying the scene. tongue
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 8:38am On Jan 27, 2012
^^^^ i am not fighting him. he is a child.

darn you and damn satan.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by plappville(f): 10:13pm On Jan 29, 2012
^^ I will not dignify you with a response. I am a better way to preach Islam. I have looked at your profile and see your youth and know why you are fighting mad against good.

If I zero in on on you and say that all christian males and females behave like the nigerian male and the nigerian females who are Being Intimate with each other from your church congregation in france, will i not be giving the best of christianity, preaching the quality of christianity? Let me remind you; i am talking about the man who you wanted to introduce your sister to, but he needed to hold body until then.

If you have posted inquires about islam, its creed, etc, i will not mind responding to you. look at the topic and respond to it. not just displaying abject ignorance like nikolai sarcozy your president.

if you want cucumber and carrots and sticky finger looking thingy, you know where to go for it, then; whatever float your boat since Jesus blood is what cover you and i am in the effort to open your eyes so that you can see how weak the blood concept it.

Be inform the blood of Jesus is the only blood that you can use against demonic forces. A lady whom her doctor said she must undergo a fibriod operation foe the 3rd time got healed because of her faith in the spotless blood of Jesus.
Make u dey there, muhammed wasnt able to dictate or vision a poison that killed him, u are here brainwashing people. There is power in the blood of JESUS.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by Sweetnecta: 10:35pm On Jan 29, 2012
^^^^^^^^ if somebody were to stab, shoot, or any other life ending act on many people. while everyone died right on the spot, one miraculously survived it without any evidence on his person that the incident took place.

let just assume that 3 years later, the person is dying and says that he had complications that are always the hallmark of approaching of death. among the complication is just a ping of pain in the spot of the bullet entry so long ago.

can anyone in his right mind that the bullet entry is the sole source of death, 3 years after the fact? if that it is, the dying person is actually a superhuman.

contrast him with the one who is simply strung up or the one who was merely dip in boiling water, which ended their lives? who is the superman, rather the one God is his Support among the 3 people?

@Plappville; I say audhu bIllahi mina shaytaani rajim to satan and by the time i say it 3 times, he must disappear otherwise disaster will touch him directly from Allah. do you have a source of protection like that? are you confident enough to stake anything on it, if only you remember how satan worked on Jesus in so many ways and then on Peter who he entered and became satan?
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by plappville(f): 10:50pm On Jan 29, 2012
@Plappville; I say audhu bIllahi mina shaytaani rajim to satan and by the time i say it 3 times, he must disappear
And Muha didnt remember this word when he was poisoned? He didnt stop crying at the pains caursed by the poison until his death. Even the treatments to subside the pains were no longer effective, where was agen Gabriel? Muha was killed by a woman, he died in a womans lap, (his wife though) he matreated women that was why he was killed by a woman. He was never a prophet, the bible is clear.

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