Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,159,480 members, 7,840,068 topics. Date: Saturday, 25 May 2024 at 03:06 PM

@habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. - Religion (2) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. (2358 Views)

It's A Pity You Fear "Ebola" More Than Your Creator / If You Are Left Behind On Rapture Day, Will You Accept 666 Mark Of The Beast? / Church Of Satan Now Opened For All Willing To Join And May The Devil Give You Joy. (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by LagosShia: 12:05am On Jan 30, 2012
plappville:

And Muha didnt remember this word when he was poisoned? He didnt stop crying at the pains caursed by the poison until his death. Even the treatments to subside the pains were no longer effective, where was agen Gabriel? Muha was killed by a woman, he died in a womans lap, (his wife though) he matreated women that was why he was killed by a woman. He was never a prophet, the bible is clear.

"plappville",no need to be a drama queen with lies.but surely you cant stay without lies because they go hand in hand with christianity and its declared hate on islam which it sees as the only way to survive in its falsehood against truth.

you should please refresh your memory:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-836687.0.html
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by olasesi(m): 11:59pm On Jan 30, 2012
East:

Jesus died on the cross for my sins,
From the teachings of the bible,it is clear that it affirms that no soul shall be put to death for the redemption of another.
Jesus would not ask God to make the cup pass away if he truly knew that he was to die 4 mankind as said in his prayer
And according to the bible his prayers were answered.
“And being in an agony, he prayed more earnestly; and his sweat was, as it were, great drops of blood falling down to the ground” (HOLY BIBLE) Luke 22:44
“The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.”  (HOLY BIBLE) James 5:16
Why then did he shout" my God my God why av thou forsaken me" if he truly was to die for mankind.
Paul confirms that his supplications did not fall on deaf ears:
“Who, in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was HEARD in that he feared.”
There are few inconsistencies in the death of Jesus in the four gospels making it not very reliable.e.g who got to the tomb first.
Between Friday evening and Sunday morning,how is that equal to 3 days.
Science shows that a person who is crucified can last between 3 to 7 days b4 death.how come Jesus only spent few hours.
Pilate marveled that he was already dead
“Pilate marvelled if he were already dead, and to him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead.”  (HOLY BIBLE) Mark 15:44
Even the thieves on his flanks had to av their legs cut off.
“to the slaughter like a lamb, like a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth” – (Isaiah 53:7).
“Isaiah predicts about Jesus Christ:- “
He would not defend himself at his trial (Jesus did not): “He opened not his mouth”
How did the following utterances which are attributed to Jesus, escape his lips without him opening his mouth -
Before the Sanhedrin: “If I have spoken evil, bear witness of the evil, but if well, why smitest thou me?” — (John 18:23)
Before Pontius Pilate: “My kingdom is not of this world” — (John 18:36).
When he was stabbed on his side,blood and water gushed out.this means his heart was still pumping at that time.
“He keepeth all his bones, not one of them is broken.”  (HOLY BIBLE) Psalm 34:20
If the bones of a victim were to be protected from harm, then they could only be of benefit if the person was ALIVE! For a person, already dead, intact bones mean nothing. Whether they are sawed into pieces, or smashed into smithereens, it will not make any difference to the resurrected body, the spirit or the ghost. But for living persons on the cross (like the “crossmates” of Jesus), the breaking of the legs made all the difference between life and death.
The state of his bones should not be of this much paramount if he was to be raised back to life again.
Or can't God raise back to life someone whose bones av been smashed.of course not.since it was not planned that he will be put to death,his bones still av to be intact.
It was Sunday morning, the FIRST day of the week, according to Hebrew calculations, with Saturday the Sabbath as the seventh, when Mary Magdalene alone (Mark 16:9 and John 20:1) visited the tomb of Jesus.
Now the question arises,why did she alone had to go in the morning to anoint him?
“Do Jews massage dead bodies after 3 days?” The answer is “No!” “Do the Christians massage dead bodies after 3 days?” The answer is again, “No!” Do the Muslims (who are the nearest to the Jews in their ceremonial laws) massage dead bodies after 3 days? And the answer is again, “No!” Then why should a Jewess want to massage a dead, decaying body after 3 days? We know that within 3 hours rigor mortis sets in — the stiffening of the body after death. In 3 days time, the body would be fermenting from within — the body cells would be breaking up and decomposing. If anyone rubs such a decaying body, it will fall to pieces. Does the rubbing make sense? No!
It would, however, make sense if she was looking for a LIVE person. You see, she was about, the only person besides Joseph of Arimathe’a and Nicodemus who had given the final rites to the body of Jesus. If she had seen any sign of life in the limp body of Jesus when he was taken down from the cross, she was not going to shout, “HE IS ALIVE!” She returns after 2 nights and a day, when the Jewish Sabbath had passed, to take care of Jesus.
She was sorely amazed to find on arrival, that somebody had already removed the stone and, on peeping into the tomb, she finds that the winding sheets (shroud) were folded up inside. More questions arise? “Why Was the stone removed?” Because for a resurrected body, one which had conquered death, it was not necessary for the stone to be removed for it to get out, nor was it necessary for the winding sheets to- be unwound for it to move.
“She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him”. (Still John 20:15)
Now why should she suppose that he is a gardener? Do resurrected persons look like “gardeners”? Nol! Then why does she suppose him to be a gardener? Because he is disguised as a GARDENER! Why is he disguised as a gardener? Because he is afraid of the Jews! Why is he afraid of the Jews? Because he did not die and did not conquer death! If he had died, and if he had conquered death, then he would not be afraid anymore. Why not? Because a resurrected body cannot die twice! Who says so? The Bible says so. Where? In the Book of Hebrews 9:27. It says:
“. . . It is ordained unto all men ONCE to die, and after that the judgement.”
Mary supposing the disguised Jesus to be a gardener, says unto him:

“Sir, if you have taken HIM hence, tell me where have you laid HIM . . .” (HOLY BIBLE) John 20:15

She is not looking for a corpse, for “it”. She is looking for a LIVE person, for “HIM”. And further, she wants to know as to “where have you ‘LAID’ him?” (i.e. To rest, to relax, to recuperate!) NOT, “where have you BURIED him?”
Unless there was no equivalent for the word"it" in the original language of the bible so it had to be translated as HIM
“So that I might take HIM away.” (HOLY BIBLE) John 20:15
What could she possibly do with his body, can she carry it alone.
“Touch me not!” (HOLY BIBLE) John 20:17
Why not? Is he a bundle of electricity, a dynamo, that if she touches him, she might get electrocuted? No! “Touch me not!”, because it would hurt. Though he appears normal to all intents and purposes, he had, nevertheless, been through a violent, physical and emotional ordeal. It would be excruciatingly painful if he allowed her any enthusiastic contact. Jesus continues:
“For I am not yet ASCENDED unto my Father.” (HOLY BIBLE) John 20:17

She is not blind. She can see the man standing there before her. What does he mean by “not yet ascended” — GONE UP — when he was DOWN right there? He is, in fact, telling her that he is not RESURRECTED from the DEAD. In the language of the Jew, in the idiom of the Jew, he is saying: “I AM NOT DEAD YETl” — He is saying: “I AM ALIVE!”
“And it came to pass, as he sat EATING with them, he took bread and blessed it, and broke it, and gave it to them”

(HOLY BIBLE) Luke 24:30

By the manner in which he brake bread (meaning the way he blessed it), “their eyes were opened”. Did they walk from Jerusalem to Emmaus with closed eyes? No! We are being told that the disciples recognised him only at that juncture. Luke continues with his story, that when they recognised him, “he vanished out of sight”. Did he do the Indian “Rope Trick”? Please don’t be ridiculous! What it means is that he went away. He went out of their sight.
Full of excitement, the two disciples rushed up to that upper room, where the other disciples were:-

“And they went and told it unto the residue (of the disciples), NEITHER BELEIVED they them”  (HOLY BIBLE) Mark 16:13

What is wrong with these disciples of Jesus? Why are they reluctant to believe? What is their difficulty? The problem is that they are confronted with evidence that Jesus is ALIVE! Not resurrected (i.e. not spiritualised), but evidence that he is the same physical Jesus, flesh and bones as any one of them! — Eating food! In disguise — but not a spirit and not a ghost. This is what they could not believe. If they were told that Mary had seen the ghost of Jesus, they would have believed. If the above two had told the rest that they too had seen the ghost of Jesus, they would certainly have believed that. They were a people who had seen spirits going into pigs and stampeding two thousand of them to destruction — (Mark 5:13). They had seen spirits going into trees and drying them up from their very roots overnight — (Mark 77:20). They had seen “seven devils” coming out of Mary Magdalene — (Mark 76:9). All this was quite natural to their age. Spirits, ghosts and devils! They could accept that which was believable at that time and age. But a LIVE Jesus? A physical Jesus? One who had escaped the stings of death — (Acts 2:24)? This was too heavy for their “little faith” — (Matthew 6:30; 8:26; 74:37; 76:8; and Luke 72:28).
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by olasesi(m): 12:23am On Jan 31, 2012
plappville:

he died in a womans lap, (his wife though) he matreated women that was why he was killed by a woman.
One stand to wonder how people think nowadays
HE WAS KILLED MY A WOMAN because HE MALTREATED WOMEN
please be reasonable
It doesn't hurt.
Re: @habiolah; Your Creator Has Opened The Vista Of Success To You. Accept Guidance. by olasesi(m): 1:15am On Jan 31, 2012
*keeps mute*

1 Like

(1) (2) (Reply)

Did Jesus Die On A Friday? / Clarification On LUKE 16VS 1-10 / The Thirty Wise Sayings Of KING SOLOMON

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 32
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.