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If indeed aliens visited the earth in the past, why didn't they teach us their technology? why help build ancient monuments that serve mostly as religious monuments and leave? Why didn't they teach the ancients how to make interstellar space ships?. . .Why limit their contact and contributions to mere pyramids for example?. . . .I would have expected them to share some of their knowledge with the ancient men and teach them how to advance like they had. . .This entire argument is just ridiculous. . . .

Who said we are not being taught their technology? Who said they left? Who said they didn't teach the ancients how to build interstellar spaceships? Who said they limited their contributions to mere pyramids? Who said they did not share their knowledge with ancient man? How do you know that all this never happened when the planet is littered with extraordinary megalithic structures that stood the test of time??
Your argument is the ridiculous one, mate.

mazaje:

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If indeed aliens visited the earth in the past, why didn't they teach us their technology? why help build ancient monuments that serve mostly as religious monuments and leave? Why didn't they teach the ancients how to make interstellar space ships?. . .Why limit their contact and contributions to mere pyramids for example?. . . .I would have expected them to share some of their knowledge with the ancient men and teach them how to advance like they had. .  .This entire argument is just ridiculous. . . .

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When and where exactly did the ancient people write that some group of aliens help them in constructing anything?. . .Lets take he pyramids for example where exactly did the people write or according to which tradition does it say that aliens helped them in constructing it?

Go read the vedic literatures, as well as Tibetan literatures, dude. There are plenty of such reports in there. Educate yourself first before you turn yourself into a skeptic. Just denying things blindly does not make you a proper skeptic. Educate up first.

mazaje:

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When and where exactly did the ancient people write that some group of aliens help them in constructing anything?. . .Lets take he pyramids for example where exactly did the people write or according to which tradition does it say that aliens helped them in constructing it?

@mazaje:
Mr dear friend you need to have a the barest minimum of an open mind to avail yourself all the facts that are available on this subject. The vedas, written perhaps more than 10,000 yrs ago, read like a modern day comic book or the star wars movie. they tell of great wars fought on earth and the our solar system with flying machines, ray guns, beam weapons and all sorts of mind boggling technologies.

We seem to be looking at advanced techonology purely from our own modern perspective. Our technology can be considered different and perhaps  crude by the standards of ancient technology. Whereas our modern technology is based on a mechanical ,and then recently based on electronic circuitry, we are now discovering that ancient technology was based on hyperdimensional physics. This is a brand new area of science that we are just begining to understand and research.  The USA has invested considerable resources over the several decades on their research centers at Los Alamos and at  Montauk NY on the area of Hyperdimensional physics. All the ancient monuments and megalits could be remants of hyperdimension machines that performed incredible things that awed the ancients , and this could very well be the reason that they became objects of religious veneration.
We notice the more recent monuments show less skill and craftmanship mediocre than the much older monuments because the ancients tried to mimic the technological legacies of their , perhaps, ET mentors.

As for intergallactic travel, I think it ss very unimaginative to suggest that just because we cannot travel to  another star system with our rocket technology, that no adavance race is capable of doing so. Other intelligent life coulb be millions of yrs ahead of us in technological, social and perhaps spiritual advancement.

mazaje:

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When and where exactly did the ancient people write that some group of aliens help them in constructing anything?. . .Lets take he pyramids for example where exactly did the people write or according to which tradition does it say that aliens helped them in constructing it?

Pls read the Enuma Elish, Erra Appos and the Atra Hasis. These are direct translations of Summerian Cuiniform tablets and cylinder seals. They clearly state that the gods who came to earth from above, brought civlisation and kingship to them, lived among them and taught them everything , flew around in flying machines and build great monuments and waged great wars amongst themselves. But ofcourse, when you read these things, you'll probably dismiss them as simple Summerian myths.

@mazaje
How do you expect our ancient fore fathers who were mostly stark illiterates to be taught how to build interstellar space ships Even if they wanted to, is it possible they can comprehend the technology? It is like wanting to teach a stark illiterate quantum physics, how do you go about that even when seasoned professors in physics have great difficulty in comprehending it. The knowledge we humans have today is cumulative knowledge developed over thousands of years by our ancestors yet many of us despite all our exposure do not know how a computer works how much less the ancients being able to comprehend how a space ship works. Bros you need to loosen up a bit and open your mind.

There is reason to believe, granted the sheer enormity of the universe, that there could be life on other unknown worlds. It is indeed the rational position on the matter, given that the more we learn of other solar systems, we’ve also come to discover that there are indeed earth-like planets out there—i.e. planets which closely mimic the earth’s privileged position in its solar system and possess similar set of factors which helped sustain life on this planet.  Nevertheless, it is also useful to stress (and this emphatically), that there has been no definitive confirmed extraterrestrial life out there. This is not to say that there necessarily isn’t or that there couldn’t be—it is just to say that to the best of our knowledge, Life has not been found anywhere else YET. This is what keeps SETI occupied as they search for possible signals from possible civilizations out there in the mind-staggering expanse of space.

This realization should make proponents of the whole ancient alien idea a little bit more modest and humble with their claims. It is admirable that these pro-ET discussants have thus far maintained a dignified civility with their elucidations, but I would caution that we do not allow ourselves be carried off entirely by what can at best be described as hopeful conjecture. As anyone neutral on this matter would have observed, this discussion makes more sense when we are granted the liberty of making a lot of generous assumptions and speculations.  Now, unless we’ve become blinkered sci-fi enthusiasts, we needn’t blur the lines between hopeful speculations and verifiable facts.

Now, what exactly would alien life look like? Have we made space in our deliberations for the fact that we could indeed stumble upon technologically less advanced, carbon-based extraterrestrial life forms? What about technologically less advanced non-carbon-based extraterrestrial life forms? Seriously, why do we assume that aliens must necessarily possess superior technology and/ or are capable of harvesting us for their benefit? The answer would be because it seems to be the familiar motif generated by imaginative sci-fi writers.  I think it can be deeply entertaining to ponder the vast mysteries that will yet be unfolded to us with the passage of time, but I’d be caution against some overweening presumptuousness on the basis of inconclusive and highly speculative sci-fi literature. While the ideas tossed about in popular sci-fi literature can eventually become reality, it wouldn’t help things to treat it as such now. The best one can hope for in these circumstances is that people who have consumed a staggering amount of sci-fi literature would find themselves sufficiently motivated to want to conduct real science with a view to bringing refreshing new perspectives and insights into what we now cavalierly accept. Indeed, such transformative paradigm-shifting moves may make some of these exciting sci-fi ideas an eventual reality.

I say these because there is no shortage of conspiracy theories and fantastical but improbable notions that are making the rounds. 

Now let’s get on with the physics…

You would pretty much have to say that the entirety of modern physics and cosmology are on shaky grounds if we are to grant the leaps needed to make some of these ideas come through. At the barest minimum, if possible alien spacecraft is to traverse the mind-boggling distances required for deep space exploration, they need to fly at or very close to the speed of light—in fact it would be better if they could fly at faster-than-light speeds.  But nothing in physics suggests that anything the size of a spacecraft –no matter how powerful (no matter the vast amount of energy you would burn for such a vessel to fly) –can ever hope to approach the speed of light. Not only do you have to ponder the vast length of time it would take these possible aliens to traverse galaxies shuttling around in spacecraft which albeit more powerful than anything this planet has ever known is nonetheless demonstrably slow at astronomical scales, you would also have to wonder how long these possibly non-carbon-based life forms can possibly live. Can this alien non-mechanical life form live/survive for say 500 years on one single leg of a deep space odyssey? 1000 years? 5000?

Indeed, to make some of these ideas work we would have to seriously tinker with contemporary physics: we would have to revise or discard general and special relativity theories; the concept of time would have to get another meaning or look; the speed of light will pretty much cease to matter in calculations if we can experimentally prove the existence of superluminals  (objects which display faster than light motion); we might even have to revise the already experimentally verified idea that the universe is expanding i.e. the fabric of space-time is still expanding  as stars, planets  and indeed galaxies continue to fly away from each other. We might also have to invoke and provide evidence for the existence of wormholes etc.

But let us now limit ourselves to interstellar space travel. If indeed there are aliens zipping around in superluminal propulsion spacecraft in this galaxy alone, then it becomes at once conspicuous why in all these years they have not been able to make contact. Why has SETI not been able to at least spot a signal from these proposed advanced civilizations? Granted we are not talking about flying from one end of the Milky Way to the other (that will easily take 100000 years flying at the speed of light), why haven’t they been able to make any contact at all? The closest known stars and brown dwarfs are within or less than 16 light years from our star. This means that if the stars closest to us have planets that contain advanced alien life forms that could fly around in superluminal jets, we should have had one of those civilizations approach this distinctive planet on this solar system in less than 17 years!  SETI was created in 1984 which makes it 28 years. If they have not seen anything approaching extraterrestrial intelligence all this time, we would be led to conclude that a) the possible alien life forms might be found even further away in this galaxy (if at all) or b) no matter how highly technologically advanced we suspect these proposed beings are, they are subject to the same physics as we are and thus could not possibly have erected superluminal jets.

None of these observations is designed to put a dampener on the possible ecstatic expectations of alien visitations that some might possibly harbor. It might be that if there are other life forms out there, we may never know. Also, it may be that by the time they eventually discover this planet we might have long ceased to be here having already destroyed ourselves and wrecked the planet with nuclear weapons. Another enthralling possibility given the 5 billion-year proposed life expectancy of our sun is that whatever race of humans are around in another 100,000 years will be as advanced over us presently as we currently are from microbes—this is so that any possible visitation by aliens would perhaps not fill the humans existing at that time with anxiety and/or trepidation.

@1Godfather;

As long as there are such things as conspiracies, there will always be conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories may be fantastical, but to say that any theory is improbable ,is , to me , a dogmatic position.
Anything that can be imagined, in due time, can be probable. Our modern era is best example of that truth. Nothing should ever be completedly ruled out as improbable.
I remind you that in as much as we thump our chest at our technological achievements over the past 150 yrs, we still have not scratched the surface as far as undersdanding the fundametyal laws of physics. We are still scratching our heads to fully understand such concepts as Relativity, Unified Field Theory , The String Theory, and even gravity.
In as much as there might very well be less advanced carbon life forms in the universe, naturally, our pre-occupation is with the more advanced races from whom we hope to learn from and also of whom we are most likely to feel threaten by.
A life form that is 10,000 or 100,000 yrs ahead of us in an evolutionary context is more likely to be far ahead of us techonogical, not to mention ones that might be millions of years ahead of us.
My point is that what may seem technologically improbable to our limited knowdge today, like intergallactice space travel, may be easily possible in the near or far future.
The Vedic literatures tell of beings in Flying machines shooting weapons at each other. Imagine if you were reading these Texts 300yrs ago. I'm sure you would consider these tales to be improbable myths, Right ? But today, we do have airforce pilots in flying machines and shooting weapons at each other, don't we?

plaetton:

The Vedic literatures tell of beings in Flying machines shooting weapons at each other. Imagine if you were reading these Texts 300yrs ago. I'm sure you would consider these tales to be improbable myths, Right ? But today, we do have airforce pilots in flying machines and shooting weapons at each other, don't we?

Still grasping at straws. Funny enough, the websites that insist on vimanas being real machines are the fringe alien consipracy websites. SMH. Hindu mythology is now evidence of aliens. It's like reading the bible and concludiing that the Tower of Babel was really a communication tower or that Elijah's fiery chariot was really a flying machine equipped with lasers.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedas
[b]The Vedas (Sanskrit वेदाः véda, "knowledge" are a large body of texts originating in ancient India. Composed in Vedic Sanskrit, the texts constitute the oldest layer of Sanskrit literature and the oldest scriptures of Hinduism.[1][2] The Vedas are apauruṣeya ("not of human agency".[3][4][5] They are supposed to have been directly revealed, and thus are called śruti ("what is heard",[6][7] distinguishing them from other religious texts, which are called smṛti ("what is remembered".

The Vedic texts or śruti are organized around four canonical collections of metrical material known as Saṃhitās, of which the first three are related to the performance of yajna (sacrifice) in historical Vedic religion:



From Monier-Williams Sanskrit-English Dictionary: v0.3 RC1 :

vimAna vi'-mAna
m. n. a car or chariot of the gods , any mythical self-moving aerial car (sometimes serving as a seat or throne , sometimes self-moving and carrying its occupant through the air ; other descriptions make the VimAna more like a house or palace , and one kind is said to be 7 stories high ; that of RAvaNa was called puSpaka q.v. ; the nau-v,  [Ragh. xvi , 68] is thought to resemble a ship) MBh. Kāv. &c. 980,1 L=198731



The predecessors of the flying vimanas of the Sanskrit epics are the flying chariots employed by various gods in the Vedas: the Sun (see Sun chariot) and Indra and several other Vedic deities are transported by flying wheeled chariots pulled by animals, usually horses (but the Vedic god Pūsan's chariot is pulled by goats, as is that of Norse Thor).

The Rigveda does not mention Vimanas, but verses RV 1.164.47-48 have been taken as evidence for the idea of "mechanical birds":

47. kṛṣṇáṃ niyânaṃ hárayaḥ suparṇâ / apó vásānā dívam út patanti
tá âvavṛtran sádanād ṛtásyâd / íd ghṛténa pṛthivî vy ùdyate
48. dvâdaśa pradháyaś cakrám ékaṃ / trîṇi nábhyāni ká u tác ciketa
tásmin sākáṃ triśatâ ná śaṅkávo / 'rpitâḥ ṣaṣṭír ná calācalâsaḥ
"Dark the descent: the birds are golden-coloured; up to the heaven they fly robed in the waters.
Again descend they from the seat of Order, and all the earth is moistened with their fatness."
"Twelve are the fellies, and the wheel is single; three are the naves. What man hath understood it?
Therein are set together spokes three hundred and sixty, which in nowise can be loosened." ("trans." Griffith)
In Swami Dayananda Saraswati's "translation", these verses become:

"jumping into space speedily with a craft using fire and water ,  containing twelve stamghas (pillars), one wheel, three machines, 300 pivots, and 60 instruments."[2]
although the 'wheel' is likeliest a metaphorical description of the yearly cycle, and '12' and the '360' are likeliest its months and days.[/b]

While we're at it, Shango's double headed axe was really an Electro Magnetic device. It emitted ultraviolet waves on one side and X ray waves on the other. It was given to him when the Anceint Astronauts landed on Olumo rock.

@Martian.

You were soooo eager to engage in your normal carricature that you completely missed my point or deliberately chose to ignore it.
Let me repeat it for you. Whether any one considers the Vedic tales true accounts or myth, the point I was trying to make is that anyone reading them 200yrs or 300yrs ago, would not have thought much the fantasctic tales in the same way that we do today, We are excited and drawn to them today because of the eerie similarities they have with the technological capabilities of today and those we envision for the near future.
If you cannot discern that tiny bit even from your own wiki paste, then I respectfully will not condenscend to pay any attention to any post you may have on this discussion.

Healthy Skeptism is something that I actually encourage peolpe to exercise as much as possible. However, it is less than skeptism to dismiss and caricature ideas without any form of evaluation.
There is no shame in thinking out of the box( or in this case, out of the tube or tv screen).
Dont worry, your evening news will always keep you sufficiently informed.

Martian:

While we're at it, Shango's double headed axe was really an Electro Magnetic device. It emitted ultraviolet waves on one side and X ray waves on the other. It was given to him when the Anceint Astronauts landed on Olumo rock.

For those of us with very active imaginations, the Norwegian Spirals of 2009 gives plenty to imagine and speculate upon, especially as it happened when President Obama  was in  Norway to recieve the  Nobel Prize.
The spiral in sky was seen by thousands for more than ten minutes and was filmed and aired by every major media house in teh world.
With your mindset, I wonder if any one is allowed speculate and wonder whether the huge spiral in the sky was some kind of attempted or coded communication by ETs, an unknown and never before seen atmospheric anomaly, or a new secret weapon being displayed to intimidate Obama. Take your pick, as long you do not deny that the event took place.

plaetton:

The Vedic literatures tell of beings in Flying machines shooting weapons at each other. Imagine if you were reading these Texts 300yrs ago. I'm sure you would consider these tales to be improbable myths, Right ? But today, we do have airforce pilots in flying machines and shooting weapons at each other, don't we?

We all need to have an open mind, but that means why shouldn't call out crap for what it is. . .The Verders did not talk of flying machines as you are trying to portray here, there is a huge difference between flying wheeled chariots pulled by animals like birds and horses and flying machines. . . .The are NOT the same. . .The way you guys spin wha is written to agree with your bias says a lot as far as am concerned. . .I do NOT deny the possibility of alien life out in other parts of the universe, in fact I believe that there are some form of life forms in other parts of the universe, but as it stands now we just can not know cos of our limiting technology and equipment, but saying that they came down and helped ancient men build civilizations and monuments with out any evidence to show for it beside endless spins and twist of ancient writings and paintings is complete crap as far as am concerned and it should be called out for what it is. . . .

@Mazaje
The monuments themselves that cannot be built by modern men with all our modern technology is enough evidence that they got some help from more advanced 'beings'

plaetton:

@Martian.

You were soooo eager to engage in your normal carricature that you completely missed my point or deliberately chose to ignore it. 
Let me repeat it for you. Whether any one considers the Vedic tales true accounts or myth, the point I  was trying to make is that anyone reading them 200yrs or 300yrs ago, would not have thought much the fantasctic tales in the same way that we do today,   We are excited and drawn to them today because of the eerie similarities they have with the technological capabilities  of today and those we envision for the near future.
If you cannot discern that tiny bit even from your own wiki paste, then I respectfully will not  condenscend to pay any attention to any post you may have on this discussion.

Healthy Skeptism is something that I actually encourage peolpe to exercise as much as possible. However, it is less than skeptism to dismiss and caricature ideas without any form of evaluation.
There is no shame in thinking out of the box( or in this case, out of the tube or tv screen).
Dont worry, your evening news will always keep you sufficiently informed.

Healthy skepticism and some damn education will enable you to discard all myths instead of clinging to the Indian one and insisting that they are true. Vedic literature is mythology, the summerian stories are nothing bout stories, the enuma elish is a myth.
You must be open minded, but not so open minded that your brain fallout.

plaetton:

For those of us with very active imaginations, the Norwegian Spirals of 2009 gives plenty to imagine and speculate upon, especially as it happened when President Obama  was in  Norway to recieve the  Nobel Prize.
The spiral in sky was seen by thousands for more than ten minutes and was filmed and aired by every major media house in teh world.
With your mindset, I wonder if any one is allowed speculate and wonder whether the huge spiral in the sky was some kind of attempted or coded communication by ETs, an unknown and never before seen atmospheric anomaly, or a new secret weapon being displayed to intimidate Obama. Take your pick, as long you do not deny that the event took place.

For those of you with over active imaginations and apparent lack of resources to discard myths and urban legends; maybe this was really a code from ET Russians

http://www.universetoday.com/47188/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/
http://www.universetoday.com/47188/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/

Martian:

For those of you with over active imaginations and apparent lack of resources to discard myths and urban legends; maybe this was really a code from ET Russians

http://www.universetoday.com/47188/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/
http://www.universetoday.com/47188/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/

No who is clinging at a straw now?.
You seem a lot more desperate to disprove everything. What exactly was the point of your web reference? I doubt that you actually read it.
Just more questions than answers. I still want to believe that you are intelligent enough not believe the statement that it was missile test gone awry by the Russians. i would hav ebeen in shock if the official stament was anything different.And what was the official US response to such revelation? Mute. Confirms that you are the typical 6 o'clock news consumer.
I wish you could descibe in your own words, how a failed missile leaves a blue geometrically perfect spiral in the air for ten minutes without any smoke trails or sonic boom over Norway and Sweden, and then suddenly vanishes into what looked like a black hole.

Having an active imagination is actually a great badge of honour. I pity the drones that do not have enough of it.

@Mazaje:

Have you read the Vedic texts in question?

Pastor Kun:

@Mazaje
The monuments themselves that cannot be built by modern men with all our modern technology is enough evidence that they got some help from more advanced 'beings'

Are you sure?. . .The modern man can build 100 pyramids in half the time it took the ancients to build one pyramid if he wants to. . . Yo can never compare the complexity involved building the tallest building in the world(located in Dubai) with the pyramids or any ancient monuments. . . .

plaetton:

No who is clinging at a straw now?.
You seem a lot more desperate to disprove everything. What exactly was the point of your web reference? I doubt that you actually read it.

Why would I be desperate to disprove everything? All I do is provide you information devoid of ignorant conspiracy theories.

plaetton:

No who is clinging at a straw now?.
You seem a lot more desperate to disprove everything. What exactly was the point of your web reference? I doubt that you actually read it.
Just more questions than answers. I still want to believe that you are intelligent enough not believe the statement that it was missile test gone awry by the Russians. i would hav ebeen in shock if the official stament was anything different.And what was the official US response to such revelation? Mute. Confirms that you are the typical 6 o'clock news consumer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Norwegian_spiral_anomaly
The Norwegian spiral anomaly of 2009[1] appeared in the night sky over Norway[2] on 9 December 2009. It was visible from, and photographed from, northern Norway and Sweden. The spiral consisted of a blue beam of light with a greyish spiral emanating from one end of it. The light could be seen in all of Trøndelag to the south (the two red counties on the map to the right) and all across the three northern counties which compose Northern Norway,[3] as well as from Northern Sweden[1] and it lasted for 2–3 minutes.[3] According to sources, it looked like a blue light coming from behind a mountain, stopping in mid-air, and starting to spiral outwards.[4][5] A similar, though less spectacular event had also occurred in Norway the month before.[6] Both events had the expected visual features of failed flights of Russian RSM-56 Bulava missiles,[7][8] and the Russian Defence Ministry acknowledged shortly after that such an event had taken place on December 9.[[/b]9]

[b]UFO enthusiasts(Plaetton,"Let me say my piece"   immediately began speculating whether the aerial light display could be evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence proposing among other things that it could be a wormhole opening up, or somehow was linked to the recent high-energy experiments undertaken at the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland.[11]

plaetton:

With your mindset, I wonder if any one is allowed speculate and wonder whether the huge spiral in the sky was some kind of attempted or coded communication by ETs, an unknown and never before seen atmospheric anomaly, or a new secret weapon being displayed to intimidate Obama. Take your pick, as long you do not deny that the event took place.

plaetton:

I wish you could descibe in your own words, how a failed missile leaves a blue geometrically perfect spiral in the air for ten minutes without any smoke trails or sonic boom over Norway and Sweden, and then suddenly vanishes into what looked like a black hole.

lol, I guess this is an eyewitness account. Vey soon, there will be more embellishments about how Buddy the Space Alien flew his spaceship into the black hole.

@Mazaje
Modern men use blocks and bricks that weigh at most 5kg to build our monuments but the monuments built by the ancients which still astounds us today had in some cases stone blocks weighing hundreds of tonnes raised several stories high. Even our most powerful cranes today cannot replicate that feat.

mazaje:

Are you sure?. . .The modern man can build 100 pyramids in half the time it took the ancients to build one pyramid if he wants to. . . Yo can never compare the complexity involved building the tallest building in the world(located in Dubai) with the pyramids or any ancient monuments. . . .

They don't seem to understand that even though the pyramids et al are outstanding acheivements, they still pale in comparison to what modern humans have accomplished. and if we are able to achieve what we have over the past 200 years, then there is no reason to doubt that ancient humans had the ability to do what they did without introducing aliens.

mazaje:

Are you sure?. . .The modern man can build 100 pyramids in half the time it took the ancients to build one pyramid if he wants to. . . Yo can never compare the complexity involved building the tallest building in the world(located in Dubai) with the pyramids or any ancient monuments. . . .

Plsssssssss. Excume me.
The tallest building in the world you are refering to was built with with years of computer planning,graphics, 3-D modelling, all sorts of modern equiptments and skills. How many different modern technologies do you think went into the construction of that tower?. Could it have been built without a single crane? NO. Could it have been built without electricity? No. Could it have been built with elvators and Helicopters to ferry laods to tht top? NO.
There hav ebeen attempt to simulate how the egyptians may have built the pyramids and each simulation opens up more questions than answers. One is that it would have required tens of thousands of wokers working for about 40 yrs. Egypt never had enough grains to even feed tens of thousand of workers for any extended period. a project of that magnitude would have well docmented and written about in their various Hieroglyphs. There is none, not even inside the pyramids.
The dimension of th pyramid is a direct  ratio of the polar dimension of the earth up to the last decimal. No one could have known this in 3000 BC. The pyramids are correctly aligned with the four cardinal points more accurately than the Greenwich observatory.
The Pyramid lies in the center of gravity of the continents. It also lies in the exact center of all the land area of the world, dividing the earth's land mass into approximately equal quarters. It lies in the middle of Egypt and in the middle of Lower and Upper Egypt.
The distance when Earth is closest to Sun (perihelion) is 147x106 km, which is translated into royal cubits 280x109, hinting at the height of the Great pyramid, which is 280 royal cubits.
The Pyramid also incorporates in its dimensions the golden ratio 1.6180, which is the earth /moon mathematical relationship.

You are too quick with the trigger and so you always miss the point, or, you mischieveiously choose to ignore it. Hhmm
The fact that the Norway spiral is described as an Anomaly is sufficient to make it a subject of much speculation(a word that you seem to dislike.).
I offered three possible explanations to choose from. You obviuosly choose the official Russian military version. That is fine.
But , does the fact the Russians were supposedly testing  a new ballistic weapon in that area at that particular moment not seem a bit of an odd coincicdence to you? Could that not be considered a kind of[b] conspiracy?[/b].
If so, then the conspiracy theorists have a free reign to speculate about any number of possibilities..
And by the way, what was the US state department's or Pentagon's response to this Russian weapon's test?? they usually have a response or statements anytime any weapons tests are conducted any where in the world.

POSSIBILITIES. That is just one word you are yet to come to terms with. That is what this thread is all about.

plaetton:

You are too quick with the trigger and so you always miss the point, or, you mischieveiously choose to ignore it. Hhmm

You have no point. Your assumptions, conpiracy theories and fairy tales are just silly.

plaetton:

But , does the fact the Russians were supposedly testing a new ballistic weapon in that area at that particular moment not seem a bit of an odd coincicdence to you? Could that not be considered a kind of[b] conspiracy?[/b].
If so, then the conspiracy theorists have a free reign to speculate about any number of possibilities..

So a Russian military excercise and failed missile tests in the White Sea(Russian Territory)  are now grounds for idiotic theories?  Is it news that nations carry out military exercises?

plaetton:

POSSIBILITIES. That is just one word you are yet to come to terms with. That is what this thread is all about.

You should learn to tell the difference between POSSIBILITIES AND FANTASIES.  Everyone agrees on the POSSIBILITIES of aliens, it's your fantasies that we can't come to terms with.

Is the Russian missile explanation good enough or do you insist that the spiral light show disappearing into the black hole is possible ET?

Pyramid. Supposed tomb of pharoahs without a single corpse of any pharoah found in any pyramid so far.

Pyramid. Mega structure requiring decades to build and then completed without a single inscription of any kind left on any one of them. [Edit: Red hieroglyphs found in one interior chamber only] And this done by a people fond of writing and inscriptions.

Pyramid. Super structure with internal tunnels aligning with the stars.

Pyramid. O pyramid. Reveal thy secrets.

In the north and south walls of the Queen's Chamber there are shafts, which unlike those in the King's Chamber that immediately slope upwards, are horizontal for around 2m (6') before sloping upwards. The horizontal distance was cut in 1872 by a British engineer, Waynman Dixon, who believed on the analogy of the King's Chamber that such shafts must exist. He was proved right, but because the shafts are not connected to the outer faces of the pyramid or the Queen's Chamber, their purpose is unknown. At the end of one of his shafts, Dixon discovered a ball of black diorite and a bronze implement of unknown purpose. Both objects are currently in the British Museum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_pyramid

Reveal thy mysteries!

Actually, the Giza Pyramid did have outer encasing made of very shiny white tiles that were covered with inscriptions, hieroglyphs. These tiles were removed a long time ago, according to reports.

Deep Sight:

Pyramid. Supposed tomb of pharoahs without a single corpse of any pharoah found in any pyramid so far.

Pyramid. Mega structure requiring decades to build and then completed without a single inscription of any kind left on any one of them. [Edit: Red hieroglyphs found in one interior chamber only] And this done by a people fond of writing and inscriptions.

Pyramid. Super structure with internal tunnels aligning with the stars.

Pyramid. O pyramid. Reveal thy secrets.

Vimanas were not chariots pulled by flying animals, dude. They were truly FLYING MACHINES. Google "Vaimanika Shastra" and be astounded.

Jenwitemi:

Actually, the Giza Pyramid did have outer encasing made of very shiny white tiles that were covered with inscriptions, hieroglyphs. These tiles were removed a long time ago, according to reports.

Ok, thanks, I stand corrected. I read about the outer encasing in that link above, but i didnt see anything about the outer inscriptions. Would have been great if we had a record of them - that would surely have put paid to speculations.