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Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 6:14pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Here are some images of ancient Vimanas for your viewing pleasure; |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 6:18pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Can't seem to be able to attach the images. Maybe someone else will have better luck. Jenwitemi: |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 6:21pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Here's trying again with the images.
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Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 6:26pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
The yorubas have a saying that goes thus; "What you are looking for in Sokoto, is inside your Sokoto." What if what NASA with SETI are searching the cosmos for are not only already here, but have always been here? 1Godfather: |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 6:34pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaimanika_Shastra The Vaimānika Shāstra वैमानिक शास्त्र ("Science of Aeronautics"[1]; also Vimanika, Vymanika) is an early 20th century Sanskrit text on aeronautics obtained by psychic channeling and automatic writing. It makes the claim that the vimānas mentioned in ancient Sanskrit epics were advanced aerodynamic flying vehicles, similar to a rocket.The existence of the text was revealed in 1952 by G. R. Josyer who asserted that it was written by Pandit Subbaraya Shastry (1866–1940), who dictated it during the years 1918–1923. A Hindi translation was published in 1959, while the Sanskrit text with an English translation was published in 1973. It contains 3000 shlokas in 8 chapters which Shastry claimed was psychically delivered to him by the ancient Hindu sage Bharadvaja,[2]. The text has gained favor among proponents of ancient astronaut theories. A study by aeronautical and mechanical engineering at Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore in 1974 concluded that the aircraft described in the text were "poor concoctions" and that the author showed a complete lack of understanding of aeronautics. The study also states "The Rukma Vimana was the only one which made sense. It had long vertical ducts with fans on the top to suck air from the top and send it down the ducts, generating a lift in the process." [3] |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by DeepSight(m): 6:38pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
^ And what does this tell you? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 6:41pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Deep Sight: I need to spell it out? Early 20th century? He got the information from "psychic channelling and automatic writing"? Psychically delivered by an ancient Hindu sage? The easter bunny psychically told me its BS |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 6:55pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
But that does not disprove the fact that these machines were present and described in the vedic literatures. VIMANAS were in the ancient vedic literatures of INDIA. There is nothing you can do to disprove those. Or has WIKI told you that they were also written in the 20th century? The fact that ancient texts even talk about fantastic flying machines can only mean that something was going on at that time that is out of the ordinary(from our own POV, that is). No smoke without fire, mate. According to the ancient vedic texts, ET beings freely mixed with human beings in the ancient times. Martian: |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by DeepSight(m): 6:57pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Martian: oh damn. anyway, i did not speak vimanas. the paintings i posted, u did not address. you only said they are not worth responding to. thats escapism. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:03pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: The vimanas in the vedic literatures were mythological flying machines powered by flying animals while the 20th century Vaimānika Shāstra has crude and mostly inoperable technology "psychically dictated" by a sage. lol Jenwitemi: I don't have to disprove anything. All your so called "facts" are either outright lies, assumptions, fantasies or mythology. The funniest part is that you can't tell the difference. Jenwitemi: WIKI does't support your ignorance, now you have a problem against it. lol |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:06pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Deep Sight: Those paintings are silly. There is one of the crucifixion of jesus and it included UFO for christ's sake!!! That's just too damned silly and I don't even feel like looking up the sources. Maybe if you posted the sources, i'll look at them but I'm sure they all have rational xplanantions that don't need aliens. The figurines don't prove anything that will suggest ET either. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:07pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
That is just your own interpretation, mate. Which i am sure isn't correct. Martian: Wikipeadia is hardly the arbiter of the truth, mate. Martian: |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:11pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: Yours are just ignorant. Jenwitemi: Wikipedia always cites it sources at the bottom so it's useful for informal discussions like this. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:12pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Martian, can you address the Piri Reis and the Oronteus Fineaus maps? Whip up your wikipaedia and explain those two maps away. I am waiting. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:14pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Okay, wise one, tackle those maps, please. Martian: |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:18pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: lmao Piri Reis. Secrets in the map? It's the other stuff that fascinates people. Among other claims: The map shows the earth as seen from space The map shows the subglacial topography of Greenland The map shows the subglacial topography of Antarctica The map is aligned with the earth's energy grid (whatever that means) lol http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/piriries.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:18pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
And when you are done with the maps, can you then tackle the Dogon mysteries. Explain for us how they manage to have the knowledge of the existence of Syrius B without even knowing what a telescope is long long before the western astronomers did. Get to work on your wiki. Waiting |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by DeepSight(m): 7:20pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Martian: Please be done with your abusive language already. Surely receiving no abusive language in return, for ten pages now, you must be tired of being insultive? Come on. Now, it seems you miss the point of those paintings - 1. The issue is WHEN were those paintings made? If they were made in an age where the very concept of some of the things depicted had yet to be conceived - and depicted in such shapes, the the question is what eaxactly was teh artist conveying? Does it not emerge as a possibility that the artists are conveying sightings of the very same things reported today? 2. Lets leave the crucifixion painting if you hate it so much. There were many other highly suggestive paintings that I posted some of which are more than 5000 years old and which you surely must have an explanation for - rather than simply hand-waving and saying that "there must be a rational explanation" - while YOU offer NONE!
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Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:21pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: I have a better idea. Why don't you get some education and exposure so you can stop sounding like someone who doesn't know the difference between reality, sci fi and fantasies. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:22pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Can you explain then, how such an old map was able to show such informations long before they were discovered by the western scientists? Just posting links ain't enough, dude. Quit hiding behind wiki links and give us your wise explanations. You are supposed to be exposed and knowledgeable, right? Martian: |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:23pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Deep Sight: I called the paintings silly, if you are offended, too bad. Deep Sight: Well, pick your favorite one, find out about the painter, what the painter saw and when it was painted. Then maybe we'll have proof. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:25pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
I take it that you don't know, then? Okay, i understand. Like i told you earlier, if you want to be a skeptic, first school up before you even think of being one. Wikipeadia is not education, dude. Martian: |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:28pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: Did you even read the UWGB link? At left is the same map with the Piri Reis map superimposed on it. The conclusions don't change: Europe and Africa, pretty good. South America, fair. In fact the crudeness of the cartography of the Caribbean coast is more obvious here. Similarity to North America: vague at best. Similarity to Antarctica: imaginary. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by DeepSight(m): 7:29pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Martian: The paintings are silly? That's an odd assessment of any art. Much less 5000 year old art. I rather thought you were saying (and in fact, you WERE saying) that the presentation of the paintings as issues to be discussed was silly. Such a statement - without a single attempt to discuss the paintings - IS, manifestly, silly, my friend. Well, pick your favorite one, find out about the painter, what the painter saw and when it was painted. Then maybe we'll have proof. Okay, lets discuss this one -
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Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:31pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: LOL. Of course, that's why Ive relied on real colleges for my education. Wikipedia is an effective link to counter opinions like yours though. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:35pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Deep Sight: The jesus one is particularly silly. Deep Sight: Art can be silly. 5000 years old or 5 years old. What's so odd about that? Some rap fans will probably think someone like Nicki Minaj is artsy. In my opinion her art is simple minded and silly. That's an example of silly art. Deep Sight: Just like your opinions. Deep Sight: Source |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:37pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
@ Martian. And when you are done with the above assignments, please do try to explain the PUMAPUNKU RUINS. Thank you. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:39pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: Pumapunku my balls. Go watch Ancient Aliens or something, maybe they'll educate you about how aliens did it. |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:39pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Hahahaha! Everybody knows that wiki's contents get edited every now and then. Are you kidding me? Give me a break, dude. Martian: |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:41pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
You can't provide any refutations, can you? Looks like you are drowning already under too much evidence, dude. I will show you mercy and quit entertaining an ignorant and close-minded "skeptic"(sic) like you. Cheerio. Martian: |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Nobody: 7:43pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: Hahahaha! it's never edited in your favor because your views are ignorant and not based on facts. Jenwitemi: Dude, you're a joke. Ancient aliens! What a rube! What evidence do you have? Evidence that humans built massive monuments or aliens did it? |
Re: Martian/ Plaetton - Let's Discuss Ancient Aliens by Jenwitemi(m): 7:47pm On Mar 10, 2012 |
Martian, the "wise" skeptic has run out of refutations. Too many evidences for him to refute and now he is hitting out with insults and mockery. Your wiki site has shut down or what? |
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