*Kails*:


yeah I saw that video too.
I like both the traditional and modern forms of dhaanto.
again I don't understand the language so the music videos kind of make it easy to understand what the theme is but either way its a beautiful form of dance. I will check out your thread.

Naima00:
Hi Kails. I found one I thought you might like. She does traditional that's been modernised (if you know what I mean) her name is Ubah fahmo and here is one of her songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0SP0dpvTg. Her songs are always for uplifting purposes also don't know if you've heard any ethiopian songs but this is one of my favourites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA4KXcCxv9A this performance is at a Djibouti festival. Let me know what ya think.

some-girl:


I've found that people who lack strong enough argument tend to resort to unnecessary insults to attempt to mask their deficiencies.

You provided links mentioning a Bini man to be the father of Ndoni people. I haven't totally dismissed that possibility.
However, you have failed to answer the important questions which insults won't divert attention from.
Unlike you, I really do want to learn rather than argue based on sentiment.

I would be grateful if you would be kind enough to address the following questions one by one.

1. Who did he and his fellow migrants (if any) marry?

2. Why did a Bini man name his children (first generation Bini immigrants) Igbo names?

3. How did their language and culture become unmistakeably Igbo?

4. If they mainly kept to themselves (assuming there were so many of them and they didn't need to intermarry with the natives or neighbours), shouldn't they presently speak a dialect of Bini or at least be bilingual rather than speak an Igbo dialect, intelligible to any Igbo speaker?

5. Who were the original inhabitants of the area they presently occupy?

6. And why are they "RIGHT now" Igbo instead of one of the several ethnic groups in Rivers and Bayelsa states? They are after all as close geographically to Igbos in Imo state as they are to Ijaws in Bayelsa state.

7. Why the double standards? Same should apply to Opobo people. They should all be Igbo because their founding father was Igbo.
The only difference between the story of Jaja and that of the mythological Bini founding father is that one was "adopted" and the other ran away from home, which is irrelevant

still waiting (patiently) for answers dear killayut

*Kails*:

What is significance (if there is any) behind the foot movements and
the clapping in dhaanto dances?

MsDarkSkin:

I will check them out.

Naima00:
Your right, sounds very much like reggae. I don't know if the foot movements have a meaning or anything really but its just the way the dance is, will try and find out though. Are there any other Jamaican dances I can watch though, I really enjoyed watching the one you posted.

*Kails*:


I will see what I can cook up and I will post them.
and btw I am also msdarkskin lol

I forgot my password for this account

Naima00:
Your right, sounds very much like reggae. I don't know if the foot movements have a meaning or anything really but its just the way the dance is, will try and find out though. Are there any other Jamaican dances I can watch though, I really enjoyed watching the one you posted.

MsDarkSkin:

There is a song I may need u to help me find lol
Its from the 70s I think.

I will look more brb

Afam4eva:
I like Jamaican girls because they're hot

Btw, do you guys have ethnic groups or tribes in Jamaica or are you just like African American?

MsDarkSkin:

There is a song I may need u to help me find lol
Its from the 70s I think.

I will look more brb

sarutobie: They have succeeded in derailing my thread!..arrggghhh!!

oluamid:

Sorry boss, that arguement about who owns what land was the reason most people desisted from commenting I think.

@post,
Igbo - I love the Igbos because of their industriousness, they also have beautiful ladies, and great dishes. One day I'd love to visit an Igbo village and see the culture first-hand. Two things I wish they could do something about are tribalism and that annoying "air" of superiority. Pride in one's culture is good but feeling superior? Huh huh.

Hausa - Very friendly and ready to help once they get to know you. I love their language, its very simple to learn and they are ever ready to teach you. They can do without the violent streak though.

Calabar - Great dishes and greater ladies.

Zuru in Kebbi State - My best friend during my NYSC days was a Zuru dude. The guy is so simple and down to earth and ready to go the extra mile just to make the other person comfortable. He's a great advertisement for his tribe.

@OP, Nasarawa is not an Hausa state. As a matter of fact, there is no indigenous Hausa tribe in the state though the most spoken language is Hausa. The State is made up of different tribes like Eggon, Alago, Tiv etc. but definitely no Hausa.

sarutobie:
Please enlighten me when you say 'air of superiority' I know we igbos carry ourselves with pride in who we are,but I have never ever come across any igboman saying he is superior to any other tribe..now calm down and re-access this.will someone who feels 'superior' to another be found mingling and even assimilating the 'inferior' one's culture/language?..the igboman readily learns the language,trade,culture of his hosts in every nook and crany of this country(and beyond)..that doesn't look like a people who feel 'superior' to me..

oluamid:

This may turn out to be a long post but this is the best way I think I can answer your question.

What I mean by "air of superiority" is known as ethnocentrism in the sociological study of culture. A little explanation will suffice:

"Ethnocentrism is judging another culture solely by the values and standards of one's own culture. The ethnocentric individual will judge other groups relative to his or her own particular ethnic group or culture, especially with concern to language, behavior, customs and religion....

Ethnocentrism may be overt or subtle, and while it is considered a natural proclivity of human psychology, it has developed a generally negative connotation.

Origins of the concept and its study
The term ethnocentrism was created by William G. Sumner, upon observing the tendency for people to differentiate between the in-group and others. He defined it as "the technical name for the view of things in which one's own group is the center of everything, and all others are scaled and rated with reference to it." He further characterized it as often leading to pride, vanity, beliefs of one's own group's superiority, and contempt of outsiders."

Source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

Being Igbo you might not notice the "air of superiority" thingy as easily as someone from another tribe might notice it.

I'm not saying that people from other tribes are not ethnocentric, just that from my observation, it is more rampant among Igbos (or atleast, those Igbos I've come in contact with) especially when it comes to the issue of cultural practices and religion. I think this is one of the reasons Igbos rarely marry outside the tribe or eat the food of other tribes.

Because something does not exist in your culture dosen't make that practice all together bad. And I'm sure a lot of other non-Igbo peeps will agree with me when I say that Igbos tend to look down on other tribes' cultural practices and religion especially if it does not correspond with what is obtainable in Igboland.

Like I said in my previous post, it is good to have pride in your culture, but having the feeling of "we are better than them" is not good. And of course I expect many people to disagree with me and say I'm wrong, but then, this is my opinion.

PS: I don't mean this post as a sort of "bad mouthing" or anything. I just tried to clarify a point.

oluamid:

This may turn out to be a long post but this is the best way I think I can answer your question.

What I mean by "air of superiority" is known as ethnocentrism in the sociological study of culture. A little explanation will suffice:

"Ethnocentrism is judging another culture solely by the values and standards of one's own culture. The ethnocentric individual will judge other groups relative to his or her own particular ethnic group or culture, especially with concern to language, behavior, customs and religion....

Ethnocentrism may be overt or subtle, and while it is considered a natural proclivity of human psychology, it has developed a generally negative connotation.

Origins of the concept and its study
The term ethnocentrism was created by William G. Sumner, upon observing the tendency for people to differentiate between the in-group and others. He defined it as "the technical name for the view of things in which one's own group is the center of everything, and all others are scaled and rated with reference to it." He further characterized it as often leading to pride, vanity, beliefs of one's own group's superiority, and contempt of outsiders."

Source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

Being Igbo you might not notice the "air of superiority" thingy as easily as someone from another tribe might notice it.

I'm not saying that people from other tribes are not ethnocentric, just that from my observation, it is more rampant among Igbos (or atleast, those Igbos I've come in contact with) especially when it comes to the issue of cultural practices and religion. I think this is one of the reasons Igbos rarely marry outside the tribe or eat the food of other tribes.

Because something does not exist in your culture dosen't make that practice all together bad. And I'm sure a lot of other non-Igbo peeps will agree with me when I say that Igbos tend to look down on other tribes' cultural practices and religion especially if it does not correspond with what is obtainable in Igboland.

Like I said in my previous post, it is good to have pride in your culture, but having the feeling of "we are better than them" is not good. And of course I expect many people to disagree with me and say I'm wrong, but then, this is my opinion.

PS: I don't mean this post as a sort of "bad mouthing" or anything. I just tried to clarify a point.

nnenna.1:
Igbos have low self esteem.
Igbos feel superior to others.

Ugh y'all should stick to one story .

killayut:

You guys are not helping matter and trying to make people align with you by this every day claim of other people. every one in the North speak Hausa but they are not all Hausa. some even claim Hausa when they are not. Thats how it is . The Ogba Egbema People say they are EDO and not Igbo .It is even every where in their web sites. They have an OBA. OBA of OGBA lAND. yES They absorbed Igbos like Americans ABSORBED iGBOS TOO. And over the years they have become Igbotic in their ways but that does not erase their history.. But that is not even the issue.. Now even if OGBA EGBEMA ARE IGBOS.. Ogba Egbema / Ikwere/ Etche. do not constitute Half of Rivers Population.. Ikwere are very few. The Bulk of Ikwere land have non Ikweres more than the Ikweres. Etche is even more scanty. But even besides that the LGAs of Ikwere plus Ogba Egbema and Etche and Omuma do not constitute half of Rivers.....The whole WESTERN AHOADA are Ijaws known of Engenni AND IJAW proper.. ABUA ODUAL are Ogbulom and are considered Ijaw althought I ll place them as EDOID. Ogoni is the rest and Oyigbo is a mixed LGA mainly created for Nigerians that live there.. there are no real natives in Oyigbo LGA. The majority of the people however are Igbos of Ngwa and Ndoki.. The Ndoki natives were Ijaws of ofcourse but today there are more Igbos or infact they have been Igbos .. The rest of the state are IJAWS..

*Kails*:


agreed!!

that is why I am fascinated with the afar, maasai, mursi, wodaabe and a few others.
they have stuck true to their cultures.

I enjoy watching documentaries and reading about them
each time I do its like going back in time. hopefully one day I can see them live.

addicted268: I like all ethnic tribes equally.except the edo people.I absolutely love them for no reason at all.no reason.their dialect sounds like music to my ears,I love their names "osa this and osa that".I particularly like "osamudiamen".I don't know the meaning.I like the people,I like the place.when they speak pidgin english,I find it amusing.they are loud but rather than being put off by this,I find it amusing too.I like their history.whenever I get to benin-city,it feels like home in my heart.I just don't know why I love those people.

Fulaman198:

Not everyone who dey for North speaks Hausa. There are Fulani who don't speak 1 kobo of it as well as Beri-Beri (Kanuri). Although most of the north does speak Hausa (aprox 90 - 95% I estimate) not all do.

Andre Uweh:
It's wrong to calim that about 90-95 percent of people in the north speak Hausa. No be so my brother.
Benue state has no hausa speakers. There are even more Igbo speakers than Hausa speakers there. Kogi has no Hausa speakers, even more Yoruba than Hausa while in Kwara state, less than 20 pecent speak Hausa.
In places like Plateau, Nasarawa, Taraba, Niger, Adamawa and Borno do not have up to 70 percent Hausa speakers.
With this, how come the north has 90-95 percent hausa speakership?. Pure falsehood.

Fulaman198:

My brother, I don't really consider Benue a Northern state, it is close to Nasarawa, but still not a Northern state. Same with Kogi, I do not necessary consider that a Northern state as well. I will give you Kwara state though

michelin89: Choose from the list:

Chartey:
The "researcher" left out Northern tribes even though there's more diversity in the north.