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Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:03pm On Jan 30, 2023
Maynman:


Illiterate said a Christian can be atheistic.
Illiterate said “monotheism” is semantics.

Illiterate doesn’t know what “god” means.

Like i said, agnostics are monotheists that are afraid of religion.

A Christian is a yahweh worshipper.
A muslim is an allah worshipper
A hinduist is brahma worshipper.
Yahweh, allah, brahma etc are all called GOD!
god is a title not a person!
Keep wallowing in your ignorance, Mr "divine light", the fake atheist.

The shim hides under different monikers to pretend he's an atheist, or a Christian (at times), and a Muslim (at other times).

You're the definition of confusion and stupidity.
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:05pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:

Keep wallowing in your ignorance, Mr "divine light", the fake atheist.

The shim hides under different monikers to pretend he's an atheist, or a Christian (at times), and a Muslim (at other times).

You're the definition of confusion and stupidity.

Agnostic Idiot said Christians are atheistics, and monotheism is “semantics”.

better go and read on theism.

Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 1:09pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:
No response for the m.oron any longer. No time for unnecessary back-and-forth with a fool.
I told ya 😂

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Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:11pm On Jan 30, 2023
Workch:
I told ya 😂
The shim dey argue like someone suffering from a mental disorder 😂😂
Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 1:11pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:

The shim dey argue like someone suffering from a mental disorder 😂😂
be like you don't know 🤣
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:14pm On Jan 30, 2023
Workch:
I told ya 😂
Fellow agnostic doesn’t know if “one to whom sacrifices are made." Exist or not.
Sounds like idols, dummy idols grin

Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:15pm On Jan 30, 2023
Weak points coming from a mentally lazy fool 😂😂
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:17pm On Jan 30, 2023
Counter the weak point.
You are a former Christian that still hold on to “god”, the christian god is called yahweh.

Agnostics are Monotheists that are afraid of religion.

Re: Agnosticism by KnownUnknown: 1:23pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:

You asking me this silly question shows you don't know what's called agnosticism.

The earth is approximately 4.6 billion years old, and recorded history doesn't account for even 5% of the planet's age.

There are billions of galaxies and hundreds of billions of planets in the Universe, which is unimaginably big, and scientists haven't explored even 1% of the Universe.

There are natural limits of our abilities as a human; for instance, we can only hear within a narrow range of sound frequencies and see only within a narrow range of frequencies.

There's a vast amount of information and data in our immediate surrounding we're not able to detect and know, just like we're starkly ignorant of things happening in the extrasolar or extraterrestrial worlds.

Agreed. There are known unknowns, meaning there are things we have no knowledge of in existence or they universe. There are also things we can’t even fathom and we don’t give names or attributes to them.

A001:

As a result of these, what the average human know pales in comparison with what they don't know; hence, agnosticism.

Agreed. agnosticism, (from Greek agnōstos, “unknowable”), strictly speaking, the doctrine that humans cannot know of the existence of anything beyond the phenomena of their experience.

There are things beyond the phenomena of our experience and we do not give them names or any attributes simply because they are beyond our physical capabilities and tools of discovery.

For example, I can’t logically say that there may be something in the unobervable universe called a BimBim. Mind you, I said a BimBim and not some BimBims. Also, I’m agnostic about the existence of BimBim.
You would have to ask me what a BimBim is since the phenomena is beyond my experience.
Further more, how do I know the nature of this BimBim or know to call it BimBim?
Why is there only one of this BimBim?


A001:

A god can exist or not exist; we may never really know for sure due to our limited knowledge of our nature, of our planet, and of the Universe.

What is god to the agnostic like yourself?
Is god beyond the phenomena of our experience?
Why one and not a whole race of them like the human race? 8 billion humans and 8 billion gods.
Why do you refer to it as one?




A001:

That's the agnostic position in simple terms, which is more reasonable than saying with certainty that a god exists (yet the claimant can't provide a concrete proof for such a claim) or doesn't exist.

Maybe the god of the person making the claim with certainty that god exists is different from the god the agnostic doesn’t know if it exists or not.

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Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:27pm On Jan 30, 2023
KnownUnknown:


Agreed. There are known unknowns, meaning there are things we have no knowledge of in existence or they universe. There are also things we can’t even fathom and we don’t give names or attributes to them.



Agreed. agnosticism, (from Greek agnōstos, “unknowable”), strictly speaking, the doctrine that humans cannot know of the existence of anything beyond the phenomena of their experience.

There are things beyond the phenomena of our experience and we do not give them names or any attributes simply because they are beyond our physical capabilities and tools of discovery.

For example, I can’t logically say that there is something in the unobervable universe called a BimBim. Mind you, I said a BimBim and not some BimBims. Also, I’m agnostic about the existence of BimBim.
You would have to ask me what a BimBim is since the phenomena is beyond my experience.
Further more, how do I know the nature of this BimBim?
Why is there only one of this BimBim?




What is god to the agnostic like yourself?
Is god beyond the phenomena of our experience?
Why one and not a whole race of them like the human race? 8 billion humans and 8 billion gods.
Why do you refer to it as one?






Maybe the god of the person making the claim with certainty that god exists is different from the god the agnostic doesn’t know if it exists or not.
I don't have time for unnecessary back-and-forth on a simple issue. I'd give the same response I gave to the shim earlier:

A001:

A theist says a god (whatever the name) exists and has so-so-and-so attributes, the agnostic asks for a proof, and since such a proof is unavailable, the agnostic takes his position as a skeptic.

The agnostic position is a response to whatever claims about god that the theist makes without a proof.

It seems it will take you years to understand what's simple as 1 plus 1.
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:34pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:



The agnostic position is a response to whatever claims about god that the theist makes without a proof.
An agnostic is a theist sympathizer.
It’s just like a dad agreeing to all his kids imagination about toys and cartoon.

Kid: does the Wolverine in x-men exist?
Agnostic dad: I don’t know it may exist or not

Abi workch grin
Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:38pm On Jan 30, 2023
Maynman:

An agnostic is a theist sympathizer.
It’s just like a dad agreeing to all his kids imagination about toys and cartoon.

Kid: does the Wolverine in x-men exist?
Agnostic dad: I don’t know it may exist or not

Abi workch grin
Using your other moniker to quote me, Ode. Very soon, you'll use your bud.atum or rottenbbq moniker to quote me. Confused, double-faced idiot.
Re: Agnosticism by KnownUnknown: 1:39pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:

A theist says a god (whatever the name) exists and has so-so-and-so attributes, the agnostic asks for a proof, and since such a proof is unavailable, the agnostic takes his position as a skeptic.

The agnostic position is a response to whatever claims about god that the theist makes without a proof.

What if the person has never heard the word god?
Would you be “agnostic” to a person who doesn’t know of gods?

Let’s say a child of 7 years raised without the concept of the supernatural asks you what do you mean that you are agnostic?
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:40pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:

Using your other moniker to quote me, Ode. Very soon, you'll use your bud.atum or rottenbbq moniker to quote me. Confused, double-faced idiot.
really at budaatum and knownunknown? grin
Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:40pm On Jan 30, 2023
An agnostic says a god may exist or not as his nature is unknown, yet he's a theist sympathizer, not an atheist sympathizer.

When you're foolish, you're foolish.
Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:42pm On Jan 30, 2023
KnownUnknown:


What if the person has never heard the word god?
Would you be “agnostic” to a person who doesn’t know of gods?

Let’s say a child of 7 years raised without the concept of the supernatural asks you what do you mean that you are agnostic?


I don't discuss what-ifs. I discuss reality. Keep your what-ifs in your head and let's look at what's real.
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:44pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:
An agnostic says a god may exist or not as his nature is unknown, yet he's a theist sympathizer, not an atheist sympathizer.

When you're foolish, you're foolish.
If it’s unknown how then did you know it’s called “god” and it can exist or not?
Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:45pm On Jan 30, 2023
I go ignore the fool tire 😂😂😂. Silly shim that can't read and comprehend what's written in simple English.
Re: Agnosticism by KnownUnknown: 1:46pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:

I don't discuss what-ifs. I discuss reality. Keep your what-ifs in your head and let's look at what's real.

Okay, I’m not a theist or atheist or deist or pantheist.
What do you mean by god?
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:46pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:
I go ignore the fool tire 😂😂😂. Silly shim that can't read and comprehend what's written in simple English.

“An agnostic says a god may exist or not as his nature is unknown, yet he's a theist sympathizer.”

You’ve already agreed that this thing called “god” is a thing, what do you mean HIS NATURE is unknown?
Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:49pm On Jan 30, 2023
KnownUnknown:


Okay, I’m not a theist or atheist or deist or pantheist.
What do you mean by god?
It seems you both are jobless. Ask what the religious person means by that. I don't make the claim.

I only respond to the claim with agnosticism. Keep alternating between monikers when you no get work.
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:50pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:

It seems you both are jobless. Ask what the religious person means by that. I don't make the claim.

I only respond to the claim with agnosticism. Keep alternating between monikers when you no get work.

Gods are deities.
Gods are idols.

Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:51pm On Jan 30, 2023
A jobless shim wasting time online to say gibberish with different monikers.
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:53pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:
A jobless shim wasting time online to say gibberish with different monikers.

“Christians are atheistics” bwahahahah

Re: Agnosticism by A001: 1:55pm On Jan 30, 2023
Keep quoting me. Na you go tire.
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:56pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:

It seems you both are jobless. Ask what the religious person means by that. I don't make the claim.
Religious people make different claims for there various gods.

Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:56pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:
Keep quoting me. Na you go tire.

Keep following cheesy
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 1:59pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:
Keep quoting me. Na you go tire.

Religious people worship gods called Odin and Zeus in ancient Greece and Norse.

Is this kind of god you don’t know if they exist or not? Bwahahahah

Re: Agnosticism by A001: 2:00pm On Jan 30, 2023
Ode wey no get work. Continue quoting my posts all about. When you're tired, you'll find something useful to better your miserable life.

Nairaland is ripe for a block button. Fools like this should be blocked forever.
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 2:01pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:
Ode wey no get work. Continue quoting my posts all about. When you're tired, you'll find something useful to better your miserable life.

“An agnostic says a god may exist or not as his nature is unknown”

Why so bitter? cheesy

Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:05pm On Jan 30, 2023
A001:
Ode wey no get work. Continue quoting my posts all about. When you're tired, you'll find something useful to better your miserable life.

Nairaland is ripe for a block button. Fools like this should be blocked forever.
Stop feeding a troll. Discipline yourself not to respond to him
Re: Agnosticism by Maynman: 2:07pm On Jan 30, 2023
Workch:
Stop feeding a troll. Discipline yourself not to respond to him

“An agnostic says a god may exist or not as his nature is unknown”

How do you know his nature his unknown?
And if the thing is unknown, how do you know his nature is unknown?
If something is NOT KNOWN, You’ll have no idea of this thing, talkless of knowing if it has a “nature” or if its nature is unknown or not.

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