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Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 4:38pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: The purported Witness wrote nothing. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 4:45pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
LordReed:According to you. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by Image123(m): 5:20pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Talktalk2022: FxMasterz, i don't know who you are but you need to return what doesn't belong to you. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 5:26pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Image123:Are you minding the fool? He's a mad boy. So, why concern yourself with a mad fellow? I owe him nothing. He should return what he owes me. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by Image123(m): 5:31pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: The both of you quoted me na. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 5:39pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: According to reality. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 5:39pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Image123:I'm the complainant. He is on blackmail. I'll arrest him soon. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 5:41pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
LordReed:Are you the reality? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 6:11pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: I am part of reality, your Witness is not. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 6:36pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
LordReed:My witness has been before you and would continue after you're long gone. You met Him here and got to know about Him as you grew up. He'll still be here when you cease eternally. You're not the reality. You're just an illusion. There's no guarantee that you'll be here tomorrow. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 6:46pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Your Witness does not exist and so has never been a part of reality. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 6:49pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
LordReed:According to you. Can you prove that? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 6:52pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Regarding the sun standing still. That was an experience Joshua had with his armies. We can't tell whether the phenomenon spread to other places as well. Scientifically speaking, it should. But then, the people would only observe the phenomenon without knowing why or how it happened. Only Joshua and his people did. So, that can't be part of anybody's history. Im referring to this group of people in your post regarding the sun/moon standing still |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 6:53pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: According to reality. Very simple, tell me where in this reality your Witness resides, nowhere. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 7:10pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
LordReed:Using a question to answer a question. I know where He resides. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 7:11pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Where are those people today? That's my question. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 7:17pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: I answered the question. Your Witness does not reside anywhere because it doesn't exist. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 7:20pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
LordReed:I said prove it. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:45pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz:1. Both participants and spectators can record events. Eclipses in the ancient days were recorded by spectators. The ancient Egyptians recorded their pyramid building progress, as participants. 2. There's nothing like perfect state in archeological findings. The depth at which an artifact is found does not, by itself, indicate age. Soil isn’t deposited at a constant rate, even in a small area. Rates of deposition are very much dependent on local geography, climate, and biological activity. Post-depositional activity can disturb relative positions (for example, plowing can raise things up or push them down). And artifacts can be deliberately buried, cutting through layers of soil.However, the depth at which an item is buried can assist in dating an artifact, or at least assist in dating when it was buried. The law of stratigraphy is that things buried deeper down are older. What you find on top is newest, stuff under that is older, stuff under that is older still, and so on. The artifacts that are supposed to be found around the supposed Bible period have been found and documented. But none of the Bible artifacts, relics, stele can be found. So let’s say that in some layer of soil you find the remains of a mosaic which, judging by the style, was probably made around 100 AD. You find some not-immediately-dateable pottery some distance below that, and some charcoal even farther down. With C-14 dating, it appears that the charcoal dates to around 500 BC. You’ve now got a couple of dates bracketing that pottery. Because it’s above the charcoal, it has to be newer than 500 BC, but because it’s beneath the mosaic, it’s got to be older than 100 AD. The depth, then, hasn’t told you how old the pottery is by itself, but along with other information, it does. 3. The creation and flood stories were supposed to be documented by Moses as Yahweh's scribe. However, this can be disregarded. Why A. Like I have explained earlier(maybe not in this thread) there was no evidence Moses existed B. The rocks and soil of Earth has been studied and scientists found out, there's no way something as big as a flood would have covered the whole world. Worse still, where did all the water go? C. The story of the flood was copied from Epic of Gilgamesh and Mesopotamia flood stories which all predated the Bible. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth Some of the details of the Noah story seem mythical, so many biblical scholars believe the story of Noah and the Ark was inspired by the legendary flood stories of nearby Mesopotamia, in particular "The Epic of Gilgamesh." These ancient narratives were already being passed down from one generation to the next, centuries before Noah appeared in the Bible. "The earlier Mesopotamian stories are very similar where the gods are sending a flood to wipe out humans," said biblical archaeologist Eric Cline. "There's one man they choose to survive. He builds a boat and brings on animals and lands on a mountain and lives happily ever after? I would argue that it's the same story." Catastrophic events of this kind are not unique to the Bible. Some contemporary examples include the 2004 tsunami that wiped out villages on the coasts of 11 countries surrounding the Indian Ocean. There was also Hurricane Katrina, described as the worst hurricane in United States history. copied 4. Bro I have a scientific mind. And science loves to disprove itself. What may be true today may be wrong tomorrow. So if you have evidence the flood or any Bible event happened, please let me know. I'll humbly recant. I'm not in any religion that says 'believe it by faith' irrespective of the glaring evidence against it 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 8:09pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
jaephoenix:If there has never been a flood, why would the story be found in other cultures? . Remember that, story telling predates book writing. The only way people could pass information to the next generation is by telling stories which could later on be regarded as myths to those who were born thousands of years later. The Bible gives better clarifications of the story than what those cultures present. In the Bible we have the full details of the event. First tell me what science must find to prove a flood. The Bible recorded that before the time of the flood, there never had been a rainfall. Grasses were watered by mists. So, let's know the evidence that science wants to see. Is it the ark of Noah that was made of wood? Do you expect such an ark to survive after 5,000 years? The name Noah is present in some cultures that never read the Bible, and were virtually unknown to Moses. The fact that there are stories of the flood in more ancient cultures is in itself a proof and not a refutation. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 9:39pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: I just did. You prove that your Witness exists. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 9:40pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Because floods are a phenomenon wherever there are large bodies of water. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 9:50pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
LordReed:You have not proved that He doesn't. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 9:51pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
LordReed:You shot yourself in the leg. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 10:09pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Nope. Do you not know simple geography? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 10:09pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Great. Now prove that the Witness exists. 1 Like |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 10:20pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
LordReed:After you must have proven that He doesn't. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 10:22pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
[quote author=LordReed post=121895760] Nope. Do you not know simple geography?[/quite] Of course, you did. My position was that a real flood must have happened for such stories of a flood to find its way into many cultures. You just confirmed that in your last post. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by KnownUnknown: 2:20am On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Who’s talktalk2022? |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 5:34am On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz: LoLz. OK. |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by LordReed(m): 6:20am On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz: LoLz. So if someone experiences a flood around the Nile it means some other person who lives near the Niger also experienced the flood of the Nile because floods are all the same. 2 Likes |
Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by FxMasterz: 6:34am On Mar 20, 2023 |
LordReed:This response is illogical. We were talking about a global flood. |
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