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Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by TenQ: 8:35am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn:The question is do they exist or not? Do you know anything that exist in 1D or 2D space? |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 8:37am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ:Dimension exists SOLELY for physical objects. First look up the definition of “dimensions” and why it is needed. In a one-dimensional space, objects are represented as lines or curves along a single direction. This dimension is often used to describe objects that have length but no width or height. Examples of one-dimensional objects include a piece of string, a wire, or a straight road. In a two-dimensional space, objects are represented on a plane, defined by two perpendicular axes (such as x and y). This dimension allows for the description of objects with length and width, but no height. Examples of two-dimensional objects include squares, circles, triangles, or images on a screen. If a supernatural being and angels are not physical object why do they need to have dimensions talkless of having more and more dimensions? |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by TenQ: 8:42am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn:You are not getting the point In 3D space, the three axis x, y and z are unconstrained: therefore objects can move in any direction In 2D space, one of the axis is constrained to zero: therefore objects can only move in a plane In 1D space, two of the axis is constrained to zero: therefore objects can only move in a line What then happens to this hypothetical object when the three axis are constrained to zero? Leave the supernatural for now |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 8:45am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ: You are the one not getting it. In 3D space, objects have the freedom to move and occupy positions along three mutually perpendicular axes: x, y, and z. Each axis represents an independent direction, and objects can move and interact in any combination of these three directions ONLY. In 2D space, objects are constrained to a plane defined by two perpendicular axes, typically represented as the x and y axes. In this case, objects can move and exist within the plane but do not have the freedom to move perpendicular to it (along the z-axis). The movement is limited to two dimensions. In 1D space, objects are constrained to a single line defined by one axis, such as the x-axis. In this scenario, objects can only move along the line, and their movement is limited to a single dimension. The number of dimensions determines the number of independent directions in which objects can move or be positioned. In 3D space, objects have three independent axes, and movement can occur in any combination of these three dimensions. In 2D space, objects are limited to movement within a plane defined by two axes, typically x and y. In 1D space, objects are restricted to movement along a single line defined by one axis, such as the x-axis. |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 8:47am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ:If all three axes in a three-dimensional space are constrained to zero, it effectively means that the object is restricted to a single point. When all three dimensions collapse to zero, the object loses any extent or spatial size. It becomes an infinitesimally small point in space. In this scenario, the object no longer possesses any dimensions or the ability to move or exist in any spatial direction. It is static and confined to a single location in the zero-dimensional space. This hypothetical object, reduced to a point with zero extent, loses the concepts of length, width, and height. It becomes indistinguishable from other points in the space, effectively merging with them.
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Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by TenQ: 8:51am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn:Exactly! This is what I've been saying! Now, can we agree then that 1. 0 D space is a subset of a 1 D space which is a subset of of a 2D space and the 2D space is a subset of the 3D space 2. There are infinite number of 0D space within a 1D space and an infinite number of 1D space within a 2D space and there exist an infinite 2D space within a 3D space! |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by LordReed(m): 8:51am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ: You read my view and decided to wallow in ignorance. |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 8:53am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ:each dimension is not considered a subset of the previous one. Instead, each higher-dimensional space encompasses and contains the lower-dimensional spaces within it. So, a 0-dimensional point can exist in a 1-dimensional line, a 1-dimensional line can exist within a 2-dimensional plane, and a 2-dimensional plane can exist within a 3-dimensional space. 1 Like |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by TenQ: 8:59am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn:Let assume you have an infinitely thin paper typifying a 2D space within our 3D space, is the paper not a subset of our 3D space? We can theoretically stack infinite layers of the 2D papers in our 3D space. It is a subset because the 2 D space can be completely described from the 3D space. |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 9:03am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ:it's important to note that the paper's 2D nature restricts its extent and capability compared to the full 3D space. While the paper exists within the 3D space, it does not occupy or utilize the entire third dimension. It is confined to its two dimensions within the larger 3D context. |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by TenQ: 9:38am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn:This is why it is right to say that 1. The 0 D space is a subset of the 1 D space 2. The 1 D space is a subset of the 2 D space 3. The 2 D space is a subset of the 3 D space The word subset because for instance the 2 D space can be completely described from within the 3D space. Now, can we agree then that 1. 0 D space is a subset of a 1 D space which is a subset of of a 2D space and the 2D space is a subset of the 3D space 2. There are infinite number of 0D space within a 1D space and an infinite number of 1D space within a 2D space and there exist an infinite 2D space within a 3D space! |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 10:04am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ:the zero-dimensional space is the simplest form of space and does not contain any additional dimensions beyond a single point. It represents a location or a position without any extent or direction. It is not a subset of the 1D space because the 1D space requires at least one dimension of length or extent to exist. In the context of dimensional hierarchy, the 0D space can be considered as a building block or a foundational point, from which higher-dimensional spaces can be constructed.
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Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by KnownUnknown: 10:16am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ: I already worked it out and found that leprechauns live in 5D. |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 10:19am On May 22, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: 😂😂 lwkmd |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by TenQ: 10:21am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn:LOL! Even though extremely simple to comprehend, it seems you have a problem with 0D? Let me go your way Now, can we agree then that 1. 1 D space is a subset of a 2 D space which is a subset of of a 3D space 2. There are infinite number of 1 D space within a 2D space and an infinite number of 2D space within a 3D space |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by TenQ: 10:22am On May 22, 2023 |
KnownUnknown:Good for you! |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 10:23am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ:You are the one that is having problems with it. 1D and 100D contains at 1 dimension and more, now how can you compare it with a thing that has no dimension? Which property are you using? Other dimensions emerged from 0 dimension, the source.
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Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by TenQ: 10:31am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn:Stop spamming with your Monad: this has nothing to do with it I've reduced it to suit your .... Now, can we agree then that 1. 1 D space is a subset of a 2 D space which is a subset of of a 3D space 2. There are infinite number of 1 D space within a 2D space and an infinite number of 2D space within a 3D space |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 10:35am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ:It has everything to do with it. Before talking about 1D, let us talk about the most basic. Understand the basics. Hope you know there is a difference between beginning and first. zero dimension refers to a point, it is the most fundamental building block in higher-dimensional spaces. One dimension, on the other hand, introduces the notion of length or distance along a straight line. zero dimension is a concept that forms the basis for constructing higher-dimensional spaces, including one-dimensional spaces or 100000- dimensional spaces.
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Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by TenQ: 10:37am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn:You are the one having problems with Zero Dimension. For your sake, I have removed it from the discussion as it doesn't make or break my case! Now, can we agree then that 1. 1 D space is a subset of a 2 D space which is a subset of of a 3D space 2. There are infinite number of 1 D space within a 2D space and an infinite number of 2D space within a 3D space |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by LordReed(m): 10:37am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn: TenQ as you can see I am not the only one who can perceive that you don't know what you are talking about. 1 Like |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 10:38am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ:You are the one that doesn’t know what zero dimension mean, otherwise you won’t say it is a subset. The idea of higher dimensional spaces has been explored example is string theory, you are not saying anything new. Understand the basics first! zero dimension refers to a point, it is the most fundamental building block in higher-dimensional spaces. One dimension, on the other hand, introduces the notion of length or distance along a straight line. zero dimension is a concept that forms the basis for constructing higher-dimensional spaces, including one-dimensional spaces or 100000- dimensional spaces.
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Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by KnownUnknown: 10:41am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ: You’re not even intelligible enough to have a conversation with. You use the concept of set wrongly and you use the concept of infinity wrongly. You are not saying anything comprehensible yet you keep on going. This isn’t a religious gathering where people get away with such chicanery. We live in a 3D world or 4D (if you consider time a dimension). If planes such as 5D or more exists, we obviously can’t access them and if someone were to access 5D, such person would be hard pressed to describe his/her experience. Your problem is using this obvious knowledge and attempting to equate your god and spiritual mumbo jumbo as having existence in higher dimensions which you will call “spiritual”. So, a 3D being can’t comprehend a 5D world just like an atheist can’t comprehend “spiritual” things. That’s your whole shtick. However, leprechauns occupy all higher dimensions so your god is shit out of luck. 2 Likes |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by LordReed(m): 10:41am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn: He thinks dimension or space here means realm. This is the problem with people who believe fiction more than reality. 1 Like |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by LordReed(m): 10:43am On May 22, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: I even tried to help him by pointing him to find out what space and dimension mean in the context of what he is trying to discuss but here we are he's still wallowing in ignorance. 2 Likes |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 10:45am On May 22, 2023 |
LordReed:He seems to have an End Objective that he wants to achieve (i.e “His god and angels) even if it means disregarding certain established facts or principles. He is seeking validation for his beliefs. |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by Maynmaynmayn: 10:46am On May 22, 2023 |
LordReed:You get it, he is trying to connect dots to this realm by whatever means disregarding facts. |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by LordReed(m): 10:47am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn: Exactly. He wants to equate more dimensions with his "spiritual realms" yet doesn't even understand what dimension or space in this context means. 2 Likes |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by LordReed(m): 10:48am On May 22, 2023 |
Maynmaynmayn: Completely disregarding facts but embracing fiction. 1 Like |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by HellVictorinho6(m): 11:23am On May 22, 2023 |
TenQ:the universe can't exist. Google says an event requires space and time but the big bang does not. That is a contradiction. |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by HellVictorinho6(m): 11:24am On May 22, 2023 |
LordReed:why are most humans theists despite your stand? Why? |
Re: The Philosophy Of Spatial Dimensions And the Spiritual Realm by KnownUnknown: 11:30am On May 22, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6: If most humans are theists it’s because they’ve been inculcated with bullshit all their lives which comes in different flavors depending on geography and historical violence. |
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