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Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by salvarhymez: 9:20pm On Dec 09, 2017
This guy is making sense on this one. He quoted his verses to buttress his points. Please if you have a contrary view, quote your verses. I have only witnessed the real speaking in tongues once in my whole life.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by Finest4luv1(m): 9:21pm On Dec 09, 2017
what matters in life is to act according to what u believe. let what u believe follow u
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by khiaa(f): 9:28pm On Dec 09, 2017
Alezy:
true true....very true. Hope u re good?

Yes darling I am fine, and you? kiss
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by usibengate(m): 9:28pm On Dec 09, 2017
Loving this guy
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:32pm On Dec 09, 2017
Bro, i wonder how Christ was edified, because the Bible did not record him speaking in tongues or blabbing for edification.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by khiaa(f): 9:37pm On Dec 09, 2017
excel101:
Its the Holyspirit that reveals the interpolation of tongues to man's spirit. Its never stated we shouldn't speak in tongues cos there's no interpretation. Even Apostle Paul Said it that he speaks in tongues more than yea all. And the essence of speaking in tongues is for the edification of the speaker.

Paul spoke several languages(tongues), the whole essence of speaking in tongues is to convince the non-believers, so what would be the point in speaking in tongues when the non-believers can't understand a word you say? There must be someone to explain the message.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by Gofwane(m): 9:40pm On Dec 09, 2017
delugajackson:
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Hahaha.

Oga talk true, na Cele Church you dey go.
cheesy cheesy
grin grin I'm a baptist. Na my aunt wey dey go christ embassy dey speak in tongue like that.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by donnie(m): 9:44pm On Dec 09, 2017
Drinokrane:

Speaking in tongues in Nigeria Pentecostal churches is fake but speaking in tongues is not fake.

When speaking in tongues, you should speak in languages not in tongues that no one can understand.


The guy can continue talking... I always knew he was false.

My only concern is for foolish Christians who rather than read their bibles, choose to follow this blind man.

1 Corinthians 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.


Blind leading the blind...

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Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by khiaa(f): 9:45pm On Dec 09, 2017
BrightDeGea:
Satan is really using this nigga now, speaking in tongues now is fake?, well i pity the pigs this guy is deceiving, one day he will come say Jesus is not real and that he never existed and that is how some of you that believe in Jesus would come out and say "this freeze guy might be saying the truth oo", i pity each and everyone one of you that is cheering him up, we shall see how this ends.


The problem with people like you is, you blindly follow false pastors/priest, you believe in every word they say instead of reading and studying The word of Yahweh/Yahsua for yourself.

What Freeze quoted came directly from the scriptures, he didn't add nor subtract from the teaching. Satan is using people like you for deception. Freeze gave you the scriptures to back his stance, read them for yourself and pray for understanding.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by lookingfly: 9:46pm On Dec 09, 2017
BUHARIISCURSED:
There is a difference between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues, when you speak in tongues you need and interpreter but when you pray in tongues you communicating with the Holy Spirit and so you need no interpreter
when does someone speak in tongues or pray in tongues, am confused?
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by khiaa(f): 9:57pm On Dec 09, 2017
gare:


Now i know you heading for doom, since you feel it is the church you want to fight

Incase you didn't know it, evil is everywhere including/especially the church.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by Sunnah1(m): 10:04pm On Dec 09, 2017
kushercain:
This man done de digress, its no longer tithe again abi. holy ghost fire fall on you and melt your freeze. mugu
You're a blind mugu.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by Zither(m): 10:05pm On Dec 09, 2017
khiaa:


The problem with people like you is, you blindly follow false pastors/priest, you believe in every word they say instead of reading and studying The word of Yahweh/Yahsua for yourself. What Freeze quoted came directly from the scriptures, he didn't add nor subtract from the teaching. Satan is using people like you for deception. Freeze gave you the scriptures to back his stance, read them for yourself and pray for understanding.

Just be careful how you accept everything this man says as he who does not gather only scatters. The Bible also said in 1st Corinthians chapter 13 verse 1 - If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love.....

It then means that Freeze did not read his Bible properly when he said that tongues should be spoken in languages people can understand. The question is do you understand the language of angels, too?

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Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by ehissi(m): 10:07pm On Dec 09, 2017
PrecisionFx:



Christians do not touch the Bible, talk more of reading it..

Freeze is right about tithing and YES, Tithe is for feeding the poor, it's clearly written in plain English. Widows, orphans, fatherless, Levites(Theres no levites today) Motherless, Foreigners who have no land, etc.


Oga no even go there. Thieving men of God ask their members to sell everything they have and give it to God, it's natural to pastors to say that in Nigeria where sheep's de move upandan.


""pastor say honour the Lord with tithe, you say Daddy Freeze say no""

Oga, a pastor does not have any form of right to ask anyone to bring any form of tithe, Anyone who does so is a foolish sheep. And besides tithe is not money, Tithe is agricultural produce.


""Even commonsense tells me that a Pastor that builds a 50,000 seater capacity hall with AC isnt going to live there, he is doing it for people who will seat in so they can be comfortable and undistracted during services""

Nigeria pastors build those 50,000 seater halls to bring in people en mass to trick them. It's business as usual nothing more.

As for Going to church, That ur quotation is used for scare tactics for the gullibles. It was the Romans that chose to say all those trash n they also added paganism into Christianity.

Well! I thought hard before I typed this reply - obviously not hard enough - because I dont believe in talking about tithe because it is really a question of Faith. And faith the bible says doesnt come by Freeze but by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

Besides that, I sense that most people who talk against or for it are not really seeking the truth that they may please God, but just have beef with the people and things of God. As a student, I used to remember the disgust some folks used to look at me when I wear a new suit to go to church, using joke to call me a "tidyer of tithe" at a time when I didnt even know what Malachi 3 is talking. International Prophets, them no dey go church but them know as Pastor dey make am, them know wetin E dey use tithe do, them dey use their tecno dey monitor E Spiritual BVN.



Faith the bible say also works by love. I too had issues with the concept of tithing, till God opened my eyes through study - and not reading of scriptures.

A lot of knowledge seems to flying around web, unlike before when I undertook a study into this matter. Now everyone is a tithe expert, including those who know nothing about the bible nor why Christian even ought to study it.

The bible clearly shows us 3 different tithes. And the first tithe wasnt agricultural produce, it was the spoils of the battle of the 5 kings, given to Melchizedek by Abraham (proof that both you and your Daddy freeze don't study the bible one Naira)

When Abraham gave this tithe, he was not under obligation of law, the scripture teaches in clearer english that Abraham tithed by faith.

Adequate provision for the poor was made in the daily social activities by the law, besides the other tithe which was meant to be a blessing to not just the poor but the strangers among them, as well as the levites.

If you have ever read a bible, then you will remember that when God revealed how Eli the Chief priest and his 2 sons, Hopni and Phineas, would die to samuel he made a declaration that nobody remembers concerning the house of the Levites that nobody (except those who study the bible).

Co - incidentally, they died because they stole from the offerings/sacrifices of God amongst other things . Instead of their father eli, to punish them after the manner of priests, he dealt with them lightly after the manner of sons.

God accused him of honouring his son over Him and said something nobody should hear and this is it...


1 Samuel 2: 27. And there came a man of God unto Eli, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Did I plainly appear unto the house of thy father, when they were in Egypt in Pharaoh's house? 28. And did I choose him out of all the tribes of Israel to be my priest, to offer upon mine altar, to burn incense, to wear an ephod before me? and did I give unto the house of thy father all the offerings made by fire of the children of Israel? 29. Wherefore kick ye at my sacrifice and at mine offering, which I have commanded in my habitation; and honourest thy sons above me, to make yourselves fat with the chiefest of all the offerings of Israel my people?

See the wahala God almighty is making over offering, not tithe. Please read some more

1 Samuel 2: 30. Wherefore the LORD God of Israel saith, I said indeed that thy house, and the house of thy father, should walk before me for ever: but now the LORD saith, Be it far from me; for them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed.

This is what God said, that the house of Levi wouldn't retain the priestly honour forever but now that Honour is reserved strictly for those who honour him. Any man who honours God will attract God's honour, those who dont will repel God's honour.

This is the full details of the curse upon Eli's house as revealed to Samuel the prophet....

1 Samuel 3: 11. And the LORD said to Samuel, Behold, I will do a thing in Israel, at which both the ears of every one that heareth it shall tingle. 12. In that day I will perform against Eli all things which I have spoken concerning his house: when I begin, I will also make an end. 13. For I have told him that I will judge his house for ever for the iniquity which he knoweth; because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not. 14. And therefore I have sworn unto the house of Eli, that the iniquity of Eli's house shall not be purged with sacrifice nor offering for ever.

In other words, no sacrifice - this is scary when you consider that Christ himself to was presented as a sacrifice - can erase what happened in Eli's household, his refusal to restrain theft of God's offerings by his sons, who would have reigned as priests in his stead, if he had passed on.

The essence of this talk is on 1Samuel 2:30 which shows that God opened the floor with that statement to all who will be of good courage to serve him as priests. You will find out that after Eli, it became common place for prophets to judge Israel as a nation consistently.

As for the tithe being agricultural produce, its expected because the Israelites were agriculturalist and God had made it clear to them that he wanted them to be separated from the other nations. Having little or nothing to do with Nations to do with Nations who didnt serve him..

Proverbs 3: 9. Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: 10. So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.


As for going to church, this is what the bible says...

Hebrews 10: 24. And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

So I dont know where you got your Romans, gullibles talk from. Me I didn't write the bible, maybe when you see the Romans who did it for the gullibles, create a tread on Nairaland and call them out.

Like I earlier, except you know of any case, I am personally not aware of any man of God of late that declared that members should sell all they have and come and give him. All I know pastors ask members to pay is tithe and even that one isn't by force. If you dont pay it, it is not a crime.

They dont put roadblocks and demand you pay before you enter, so I wonder whats the fuss about. The same daddy freeze will go to a show where they book 2 million a table with bouncers checking your ticket before you enter and hold mic and talk for 30mins top and leave with #500k, yet E dey vex say pastor ask people to pay tithe without compulsion.

Of which, strange enough by your definition, Jesus was a thieving man of God too, for he asked people to sell all they have to give to the poor and follow him. But the bible also records in John 12:6 that Judas Iscariot was in charge of collection of monies meant for the poor......

The 12 Apostles too were all thieving Men of God, for they did the same.

Shiloh that was held recently in Ota, Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry that has a 50,000 capacity hall, that we were once calling a massive auditorium is now too small to contain people, as hundreds of thousands of people sit in overflows. Infact, the ministry insists that people dont wahala themselves to come but stream the event through youtube. The same thing too with Redeem.

The man now wants to to build a place that can contain people for regular services, you say na game. Okay advise the man wetin E go do, make E leave people make them sitdon outside for sun? To please people like una say no be business as usual, because na una send am message to preach ba??

Kwantinu.......

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Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by khiaa(f): 10:08pm On Dec 09, 2017
donnie:


The guy can continue talking... I always knew he was false.

My only concern is for foolish Christians who rather than read their bibles, choose to follow this blind man.

1 Corinthians 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.


Blind leading the blind...

Just because someone speak gibberish doesn't mean they are speaking to Yahweh. I could walk into a church with my babbling and it doesn't mean that I'm talking in tongues.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by famzynet: 10:30pm On Dec 09, 2017
BUHARIISCURSED:
There is a difference between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues, when you speak in tongues you need and interpreter but when you pray in tongues you communicating with the Holy Spirit and so you need no interpreter

That is what they tell you to deceive you.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by johnnn20: 10:36pm On Dec 09, 2017
asdfjklhaha:
This man should thread carefully unless the wrath of God will fall upon him
wrath of God will not fall upon him now. His days of wrath are in the end times. God has already predicted him. He is only fulfilling his mission, which is to tackle every rule set by God ( Satan's main aim of coming to earth). Freeze knows what he is doing, only majority of people here don't .

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Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by oruma19: 11:09pm On Dec 09, 2017
Bro/sista, we have been misled over time. This guy called freeze is God sent. Let him do his job please. Bible clearly states why u shouldn't speak in tongues without an interpreter. It makes no sense to babble without edifying anybody. People are forced to speak nonsense in the name of tongues these days because of the satanic doctrine that took over the nations in the early 2000s till date. We need to wake up and go back to the cross where we first met Jesus. We are all gone astray.
desreek9:
It is obvious this freeze is solely against pentecostal churches and not all churches which is wrong, it is not only in nigeria people speak in tongue, it's all over the world and not only pentecostal churches, i ave friends in orthodox and catholic churches that speak in tongues also.

Churches dont force people to speak in tongues, any congregation u see where everyone does that would let u know that some of them are faking it just to get along. You cannot expect a situation whereby everyone is praying, someone starts to speak in tongue and then u want someone else to stop praying to interprete wat the person is saying.

Most people speak in tongue when they are in the spirit, in worship and in connection with God at that moment, so freeze ur arguement is baseless cos speaking in tongues is a personal conviction same with tithe.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by khiaa(f): 11:15pm On Dec 09, 2017
Zither:


Just be careful how you accept everything this man says as he who does not gather only scatters. The Bible also said in 1st Corinthians chapter 13 verse 1 - If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love.....

It then means that Freeze did not read his Bible properly when he said that tongues should be spoken in languages people can understand. The question is do you understand the language of angels, too?

This is what you don't seem to understand, I'm not following this man nor any other man, I follow The Most High, ONLY. I can't dispute what he said because it came directly from the scriptures and I read it for myself and I'm not going by what he said.

I don't follow Pastors, Ministers, Reverends, and especially not Priests.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by argob44(f): 11:17pm On Dec 09, 2017
MizJanet:


Honestly, Do you mean this : If no man understands , is the interpreter not a man ?

Or how can you interpret what you don't understand ?

Is your Bible contradicting itself since some people spoke in tongues in the same Bible and many understand their language ?

dear, it is called the gift of interpretation of tongues...not everyone has the gift to interpret tongues, but, some do have it.... 1corinthians 12:10 "To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:" you can read from verse one for proper understanding.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by argob44(f): 11:26pm On Dec 09, 2017
saintmark88:


How come no one speaks in tongues, all they do is pray in tongues?......so all my life no one, no pastor has ever spoken in tongues, all they do is pray n tongues because no interpreter is needed....hope u r seeing the scam in this
speaking in tongues is a gift...just like not everyone has the gift of working in miracles, the gift of healings, not everyone too have the gift of speaking in tongues. 1 Corinthians 14:4-5 "He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

5. "I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interprets, that the church may receive edifying." This is the reason your pastors don't speak in tongues if they do, you won't understand and so u won't be edified or be blessed by it, u may even get up and leave unless there is an interpreter. do u understand? read the scripture again
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by LxgIncrediboy(m): 11:26pm On Dec 09, 2017
1StopRudeness:


So you don't even know where freeze picked what he said from out of context...??
Anyways the whole of 1st corinth chap14 addresses this issue

Baba I didn't ask you but since you decided to buy market I'll happily oblige..

6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? 7 Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the pipe or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8 Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9 So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. 10 Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me. 12 So it is with you. Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those that build up the church.

13 For this reason the one who speaks in a tongue should pray that they may interpret what they say. 14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15 So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding. 16 Otherwise when you are praising God in the Spirit, how can someone else, who is now put in the position of an inquirer,[d] say “Amen” to your thanksgiving, since they do not know what you are saying? 17 You are giving thanks well enough, but no one else is edified.

18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19 But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.

20 Brothers and sisters, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21 In the Law it is written:

“With other tongues
and through the lips of foreigners
I will speak to this people,
but even then they will not listen to me,
says the Lord.”[e]

Speaking in tongues n praying from the chapter says they are the same thing and clearly says speaking in a foreign language not gibberish

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Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by LxgIncrediboy(m): 11:29pm On Dec 09, 2017
argob44:
speaking in tongues is a gift...just like not everyone has the gift of working in miracles, the gift of healings, not everyone too have the gift of speaking in tongues. 1 Corinthians 14:4-5 "He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

5. "I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interprets, that the church may receive edifying." This is the reason your pastors don't speak in tongues if they do, you won't understand and so u won't be edified or be blessed by it, u may even get up and leave unless there is an interpreter. do u understand? read the scripture again

Madam read down to 21... It says speaking in a foreign language... There's no where in the Bible it says praying in tongues is between you and God.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by saintmark88(m): 11:31pm On Dec 09, 2017
argob44:
speaking in tongues is a gift...just like not everyone has the gift of working in miracles, the gift of healings, not everyone too have the gift of speaking in tongues. 1 Corinthians 14:4-5 "He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

5. "I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interprets, that the church may receive edifying." This is the reason your pastors don't speak in tongues if they do, you won't understand and so u won't be edified or be blessed by it, u may even get up and leave unless there is an interpreter. do u understand? read the scripture again

Do u even know what u r saying....from all yu have said....u r shooting urself n d foot. Read 1cor 13-17...to see tht even praying n tongue ms also needs to be interpreted

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Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by LxgIncrediboy(m): 11:32pm On Dec 09, 2017
Zither:


Just be careful how you accept everything this man says as he who does not gather only scatters. The Bible also said in 1st Corinthians chapter 13 verse 1 - If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love.....

It then means that Freeze did not read his Bible properly when he said that tongues should be spoken in languages people can understand. The question is do you understand the language of angels, too?

So do you know anyone mentioned in the Bible who spoke the language of angels?
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by LxgIncrediboy(m): 11:33pm On Dec 09, 2017
saintmark88:


Do u even know what u r saying....from all yu have said....u r shooting urself n d foot. Read 1cor 13-17...to see tht even praying n tongue ms also needs to be interpreted

I swear!!!
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by Bahamas95(m): 11:52pm On Dec 09, 2017
asdfjklhaha:
This man should thread carefully unless the wrath of God will fall upon him
What about those so-called pastors, what will fall upon them? Banana?undecided
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by Gggg102(m): 12:02am On Dec 10, 2017
donnie:


The guy can continue talking... I always knew he was false.

My only concern is for foolish Christians who rather than read their bibles, choose to follow this blind man.

1 Corinthians 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.


Blind leading the blind...

If a Chinese start speaking to you would you understand?
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by Nobody: 12:03am On Dec 10, 2017
ehissi:


Well! I thought hard before I typed this reply - obviously not hard enough - because I dont believe in talking about tithe because it is really a question of Faith. And faith the bible says doesnt come by Freeze but by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

Besides that, I sense that most people who talk against or for it are not really seeking the truth that they may please God, but just have beef with the people and things of God. As a student, I used to remember the disgust some folks used to look at me when I wear a new suit to go to church, using joke to call me a "tidyer of tithe" at a time when I didnt even know what Malachi 3 is talking. International Prophets, them no dey go church but them know as Pastor dey make am, them know wetin E dey use tithe do, them dey use their tecno dey monitor E Spiritual BVN.



Faith the bible say also works by love. I too had issues with the concept of tithing, till God opened my eyes through study - and not reading of scriptures.

A lot of knowledge seems to flying around web, unlike before when I undertook a study into this matter. Now everyone is a tithe expert, including those who know nothing about the bible nor why Christian even ought to study it.

The bible clearly shows us 3 different tithes. And the first tithe wasnt agricultural produce, it was the spoils of the battle of the 5 kings, given to Melchizedek by Abraham (proof that both you and your Daddy freeze don't study the bible one Naira)

When Abraham gave this tithe, he was not under obligation of law, the scripture teaches in clearer english that Abraham tithed by faith.

Adequate provision for the poor was made in the daily social activities by the law, besides the other tithe which was meant to be a blessing to not just the poor but the strangers among them, as well as the levites.

If you have ever read a bible, then you will remember that when God revealed how Eli the Chief priest and his 2 sons, Hopni and Phineas, would die to samuel he made a declaration that nobody remembers concerning the house of the Levites that nobody (except those who study the bible).

Co - incidentally, they died because they stole from the offerings/sacrifices of God amongst other things . Instead of their father eli, to punish them after the manner of priests, he dealt with them lightly after the manner of sons.

God accused him of honouring his son over Him and said something nobody should hear and this is it...


1 Samuel 2: 27. And there came a man of God unto Eli, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Did I plainly appear unto the house of thy father, when they were in Egypt in Pharaoh's house? 28. And did I choose him out of all the tribes of Israel to be my priest, to offer upon mine altar, to burn incense, to wear an ephod before me? and did I give unto the house of thy father all the offerings made by fire of the children of Israel? 29. Wherefore kick ye at my sacrifice and at mine offering, which I have commanded in my habitation; and honourest thy sons above me, to make yourselves fat with the chiefest of all the offerings of Israel my people?

See the wahala God almighty is making over offering, not tithe. Please read some more

1 Samuel 2: 30. Wherefore the LORD God of Israel saith, I said indeed that thy house, and the house of thy father, should walk before me for ever: but now the LORD saith, Be it far from me; for them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed.

This is what God said, that the house of Levi wouldn't retain the priestly honour forever but now that Honour is reserved strictly for those who honour him. Any man who honours God will attract God's honour, those who dont will repel God's honour.

This is the full details of the curse upon Eli's house as revealed to Samuel the prophet....

1 Samuel 3: 11. And the LORD said to Samuel, Behold, I will do a thing in Israel, at which both the ears of every one that heareth it shall tingle. 12. In that day I will perform against Eli all things which I have spoken concerning his house: when I begin, I will also make an end. 13. For I have told him that I will judge his house for ever for the iniquity which he knoweth; because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not. 14. And therefore I have sworn unto the house of Eli, that the iniquity of Eli's house shall not be purged with sacrifice nor offering for ever.

In other words, no sacrifice - this is scary when you consider that Christ himself to was presented as a sacrifice - can erase what happened in Eli's household, his refusal to restrain theft of God's offerings by his sons, who would have reigned as priests in his stead, if he had passed on.

The essence of this talk is on 1Samuel 2:30 which shows that God opened the floor with that statement to all who will be of good courage to serve him as priests. You will find out that after Eli, it became common place for prophets to judge Israel as a nation consistently.

As for the tithe being agricultural produce, its expected because the Israelites were agriculturalist and God had made it clear to them that he wanted them to be separated from the other nations. Having little or nothing to do with Nations to do with Nations who didnt serve him..

Proverbs 3: 9. Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: 10. So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.


As for going to church, this is what the bible says...

Hebrews 10: 24. And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

So I dont know where you got your Romans, gullibles talk from. Me I didn't write the bible, maybe when you see the Romans who did it for the gullibles, create a tread on Nairaland and call them out.

Like I earlier, except you know of any case, I am personally not aware of any man of God of late that declared that members should sell all they have and come and give him. All I know pastors ask members to pay is tithe and even that one isn't by force. If you dont pay it, it is not a crime.

They dont put roadblocks and demand you pay before you enter, so I wonder whats the fuss about. The same daddy freeze will go to a show where they book 2 million a table with bouncers checking your ticket before you enter and hold mic and talk for 30mins top and leave with #500k, yet E dey vex say pastor ask people to pay tithe without compulsion.

Of which, strange enough by your definition, Jesus was a thieving man of God too, for he asked people to sell all they have to give to the poor and follow him. But the bible also records in John 12:6 that Judas Iscariot was in charge of collection of monies meant for the poor......

The 12 Apostles too were all thieving Men of God, for they did the same.

Shiloh that was held recently in Ota, Bishop Oyedepo's Ministry that has a 50,000 capacity hall, that we were once calling a massive auditorium is now too small to contain people, as hundreds of thousands of people sit in overflows. Infact, the ministry insists that people dont wahala themselves to come but stream the event through youtube. The same thing too with Redeem.

The man now wants to to build a place that can contain people for regular services, you say na game. Okay advise the man wetin E go do, make E leave people make them sitdon outside for sun? To please people like una say no be business as usual, because na una send am message to preach ba??

Kwantinu.......




" I dont believe in talking about tithe because it is really a question of Faith""


Tithing has no single connection with "faith".

Stop deceiving ur sef. Tithing has a well established modus operande as per how to pay it.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by damosky12(m): 12:06am On Dec 10, 2017
justiniyke29:
this is so true. i ave always wondered bcus when d apostles spoke in tongue they spoke in a language understood by the crowd, instead of satanya bonaza, makasupre bondareke, and other rubbish THEY SPEAK

1 Corinthians 14:2
[2]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.


Always listen to an holistic study of the Bible before drawing conclusions, sir.

What happened in Acts 2 was only a miracle through manifested through tongues (as still shown sometimes today). Tongues is meant to be meaningless to our understanding. Its a prayer to God.

1 Corinthians 14:14
[14]For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

Study through the Bible, you'll observe this.
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by Rimamsirufun(m): 1:50am On Dec 10, 2017
Dimples129:
This man is a blessing to the community lipsrsealed

To me I see him collecting offerings and gifts too in the future, all he is doing is gathering crowd.. Lol.. Seriously plenty people done dey follow am. grin
Re: Daddy Freeze: "Speaking In Tongues In Nigerian Churches Is Fake” by mystiquemaestro(m): 3:21am On Dec 10, 2017
desreek9:
It is obvious this freeze is solely against pentecostal churches and not all churches which is wrong, it is not only in nigeria people speak in tongue, it's all over the world and not only pentecostal churches, i ave friends in orthodox and catholic churches that speak in tongues also.

Churches dont force people to speak in tongues, any congregation u see where everyone does that would let u know that some of them are faking it just to get along. You cannot expect a situation whereby everyone is praying, someone starts to speak in tongue and then u want someone else to stop praying to interprete wat the person is saying.

Most people speak in tongue when they are in the spirit, in worship and in connection with God at that moment, so freeze ur arguement is baseless cos speaking in tongues is a personal conviction same with tithe.


Daddy Freeze is gently revealing his agenda daily- that he is an enemy of the church; someone could have sponsored him for all this.

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