Drinokrane:
Media personality, Daddy Freeze has in his usual routine, come for Nigerian pastors – this time around, he says most pastors are into the work of God just because of the money involved.

Freeze says Nigerian pastors left their professions because they can’t earn as much unlike in the ministry.

In a video shared on Youtube, he said,
“There are many fake pastors because of monetization; that pastor who cursed me is an architect, the one at BankyW’s wedding is a doctor.

“Many of them are leaving profitable field because ministry is a more profitable field.

“Monetization has made fake pastors come into two fold, it has made real pastors preach false messages.

“Every doctrine in Nigeria has been monetized, you hear pastors say this year you will find your ‘apollos’

“Apollos in the Bible was increase in word of God not referring to sowing, Matthew 13;7 this verse speaks of seed of faith not money; those that twist this to you are thieves. There’s nothing spiritual about those criticizing me, the only spirituality in them is the ability to twist your brain.

OAP Freeze also countered speaking in tongues in Nigerian Pentecostal churches, describing it as fake.

He added,
“Speaking in tongues in Nigeria Pentecostal churches is fake but speaking in tongues is not fake.

“When speaking in tongues, you should speak in languages not in tongues that no one can understand.

1Cor 14:26-28; someone must interpret tongues…There is no speaking in tongues without an interpreter

“Interpretation of tongues is missing in today’s pentecostal churches , if anyone speaks in tongues one or two should speak in tongues one at a time not multitude.That is falsehood
1Cor 14:23 is what pastors used to confuse you, they tell you tongues is an unknown language which carnal mind cannot understand.

Everyone speaking in tongues in the church is false because it is a gift that everyone does not receive.

“I’m a preacher that speaks from history and bible not sentiments like others; that’s why I can’t say God told me to pay titheS like they say.

“I would tell you what God kept in bible not what God told me.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeMgaShJtVc


http://www.torimill.com/2017/12/in-tongues-in-nigerian-churches-is-fake.html

1StopRudeness:


That's not totally true Sir, if u read further the bible records that they accused the disciples of being drunk, if they clearly understood the new tongues the disciples spoke in they wouldn't tag them as drunk.

Peter in acts 2verse 14 had to start explaining this was the act of the holy spirit and that they weren't drunk...there wouldn't have been any need for peter's explanation if the people who heard them speak in new tongues could comprehend

Icorinth 14 v 2 clearly explains this, speaking in tongues is speaking to God and not men. Therefore it is possible for pple not to understand if they had no gift of interpretation.
Paul only clear the air, because when the gift came on the disciple some pastors and teacher amongst them just came to church and spoke in tongues for several hours in display and joy of their new found spiritual gift,
so he said unless there is an interpreter there's no need to speak in tongues for the purpose of edifying the church(edifying is like preaching or declaring good tidings on the congregation for hours, so imagine the pastor enter church preaching or declaring in tongues for 2hrs and say sermon closed) better still as a pastor, Prophesy instead that way the whole church will hear you and be edified or built up.

argob44:
My dear, don't believe this unlearned man. Study for yourself. He jumped verse 2 and went down where he got himself confused, speaking in tongues and praying in tongues is a different thing, what we see in churches is praying in tongues and not speaking in tongues. Verse 2 says "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries."
verse 15 "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also."

speaking in tongues need an interpreter, but praying in the spirit which is praying in tongues does not...but verse 2 says u are speaking mysteries no man understand u but God..... and verse 15 says, do not do one but, do both... ' I will pray in the spirit and I will pray in my understanding also"...take not this was Paul talking. he said 'I will", meaning you can choose to pray in tongues anytime, u mustn't pray to an extent first. call me on 08077609539, let me tell u more or send my num to Daddy Freeze let me teach him God's word.

argob44:
My dear, don't believe this unlearned man. Study for yourself. He jumped verse 2 and went down where he got himself confused, speaking in tongues and praying in tongues is a different thing, what we see in churches is praying in tongues and not speaking in tongues. Verse 2 says "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries."
verse 15 "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also."

speaking in tongues need an interpreter, but praying in the spirit which is praying in tongues does not...but verse 2 says u are speaking mysteries no man understand u but God..... and verse 15 says, do not do one but, do both... ' I will pray in the spirit and I will pray in my understanding also"...take not this was Paul talking. he said 'I will", meaning you can choose to pray in tongues anytime, u mustn't pray to an extent first. call me on 08077609539, let me tell u more or send my num to Daddy Freeze let me teach him God's word.

gare:


Now i know you heading for doom, since you feel it is the church you want to fight

ehissi:


My friend stop using big big grammar to confuse things.....

You said

"Baptism in the Holy Spirit is an experience that occurs following conversion. When we confess and accept Jesus as our Lord and personal saviour. The moment of Salvation. For by one Spirit are we all baptised into one body ."

This is the only reason I really mentioned you. I gave scriptures to correct this notion

Acts 19: 1. And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2. He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

These men already believed and were baptised but not of the Holy Spirit. They believed, confessed but were not Baptised of the Holy ghost - which the bible states is not of water but of Fire by the Holy Spirit. They were already converts but knew nothing of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 10: 44. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47. Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?



These men did even have time to confess, they were listening to Peter give a sermon when they were baptised in the Holy Spirit -straight from Heaven - without laying of hands by Peter or without Peter's permission so what are you still saying?

Study further to brighten your understanding, abi na copy and paste from google search you just give me.......

Alezy:
you believe this too?? You mean all tongues every spoken in any church in Nigeria is fake? Really?


He must have seen something for him to say this but he generalizes too much. How can u say all is fake. That's a foolish thing to say. I think he is just looking for something to say.

1StopRudeness:


Sorry to mention you...but now I realise a lot of people don't read their bibles including you...cos if you do u won't even make the kinda comment u just made up there.
Now I'm not saying somepple aren't speaking fake tongues or not it's not my place to analyse or judge since I don't have gift of interpretation...

But if you have read 1corinth chapt14 v 2-15 clearly explains this.

[b]"Verse two clearly says when you speak in tongues you speak not to men but to God for no one can understand" [/b]But freeze just picks a verse to suit his point leaving out the rest. Just because he can't speak in tongues or interpret doesn't give him right to judge.

Verse 14 -15 of the same chapter clearly explains what to do when you really feel the need to engage in tongues in a church. 1cor14v4 says speaking in tongues edifies the spirit of the speaker.

He never said don't speak in tongues at all, he even made an example of himself that it will be wrong for a pastor to just come into service speak in tongues for 2 hrs and then say sermon closed for it is possible for no one to understand it(1cor 14v6)

MizJanet:


no one understands , is the So call interpreter not a man , how come he or she understands ?


The same Bible records that people understands what those who first speak in tongues are saying, is your bible contradicting itself ?

savagefinder:
how do you pray in tongues without speaking in tongues.. Just asking

1StopRudeness:


I bet u still don't know where that is....acts chap 2 v12 clearly said they accused the disciple of being drunk.. if they clearly understood the new tongues would they still insult the disciples..
Further at verse 14 peter started explaining that this is the work of the holy spirit and not new wine...there wouldn't be need for peter's explanation if they understood what tongues the disciple used...

As for interpreting...that's another gift of the spirit entirely like the bible records in 1cor 12v10...

Dimples129:
This man is a blessing to the community

donbenie:
He never said all are fake..just the Pentecostal tongue twisters.

PrecisionFx:


Any tongues that cannot be interpreted is a very useless n senseless n hopeless tongue.

saintmark88:



Paul clearly says of there's no interpreter then the person should shut up!!!!.....cos what he is saying makes no
sense to others. He can speak in tongues but quietly bw him and God...not shouting romboskamborobo skibaramban shokpoto. That is d point here

PrecisionFx:



But bros wait oo... Didn't u read from the Bible that wen the people of God spoke in tongues, The people they preach to interprets it

khiaa:


Sweetheart he didn't say all churches he said most of the Pentecostal churches. I use to attend a Pentecostal church and the pastor cut out speaking in tongues because so many people were faking and interrupting the service. The Freeze guy is only quoting what it said in the Bible, he isn't adding nor taking away from the scriptures. It isn't just Nigerian Pentecostal Churches, I'm in the U.S. and the same thing happens in some of the churches here. You can't speak gibberish and call it speaking in tongue, tongue is language and the bible clearly states that someone has to interpret the language. Yahweh is not confusing, he wants us to understand. Also there are a whole lot of fake pastors in the world who cheat and lie to the people, being a pastor is just another hustle to them.

1StopRudeness:


I bet u still don't know where that is....acts chap 2 v12 clearly said they accused the disciple of being drunk.. if they clearly understood the new tongues would they still insult the disciples..
Further at verse 14 peter started explaining that this is the work of the holy spirit and not new wine...there wouldn't be need for peter's explanation if they understood what tongues the disciple used...

As for interpreting...that's another gift of the spirit entirely like the bible records in 1cor 12v10...

1StopRudeness:



U are picking bible verses out of context...

It's like ur dad gave u the chance to go out and u came back 2am in the morning...so ur dad punishes you that you must never leave the the house for a whole week......dad isn't around the house now starts to burn and u wanna leave...ur brother now comes and say daddy said u can never leave the house...

Please oga: go and read the the entire book of corinthians and if u can't just take a short breeze tru chapt 12 and 14....
The corinth church leaders after receiving the gift of the spirit started to behave sort of immature by coming to church speaking in tongues for hours expecting to edify the church that way.
Paul only came to correct that there was no need to engage the tongues for the entire church edification if the person with gift of interpreting isn't on around.
He clearly added verse 15 of chap14 which is what usually goes on in most churches...
Me I've not seen any church where a pastor strolls in speaks or pray in tongue for two hours and say "sermon is over" without an interpreter...which is what Paul was saying isn't needed..verse 6 o chap 14

So pple can speak nonsense all they like..God will judge...but just because freeze can't speak or cant interpret doesn't give him right to call all speaking in tongues fake in Nigeria. That's like already putting urself in the position of a judge

Who made him a standard to judge all tongues spoken as fake in Nigeria?

The guy is already steering towards a part of pride and judge, makin himself a teacher that he's not...if he wants to correct he should go ahead and correct....

What is doing isn't correction it is judging, calling people names and creating discord is the body of christ which is one of the abominations God hate the most

Uyiii:
Mr Freeze has frozen tithe, now he wants to Freeze speaking in tongues

this guy na 9ja version of mortal kombat sub-zero o, he dey freeze anything freezable
#freezethesheeples

MizJanet:


no one understands , is the So call interpreter not a man , how come he or she understands ?


The same Bible records that people understands what those who first speak in tongues are saying, is your bible contradicting itself ?

saintmark88:



U r just defending the indefensible, bible says if one should speak in tongues then there must be an interpreter, what's d essense of speaking in tongues saying shamboribo...wen no one is der to interprete

Where did Paul say the pole of corithn were acting immaturedly or their pastor stroked in speaking for two hours....u just made that up to defend the indefensible......if u want to say ur shamboribobo and u r saying it aloud, say it quietly bw u and God ...if u r edifying itself den y r u saying it aloud., disturbing the next person with nonsense .....saying it aloud tells one thing..... Fakeeeeeeeeeee

Freeze is 100% correct........

1StopRudeness:



Anyways, Chapt 14 verse 20 was where Paul said they should stop behaving immature like children...
So those that said it out loud in the day of pentecost too means fake?? anyways...we don't have to make this an argument just pointing out what is in the bible to each other, there's a reason why the bible is in books, chapters and verses. We are all Christian..if u wanna join freeze to condemn all those who speak in tongues as fake, go ahead..its a free world....
This is just the start, some are still gonna open thread saying it's not even necessary to speak in tongues.