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Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 9:22pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Efewestern: Bro, if you count all the group of people who identify as Ijaw, all the way from the Andonis of Akwa Ibom & Rivers to the Degemas, kalabaris, Okrikas & Ibanis of Rivers state to the entirety of Bayelsa state (besides Ofoni town), then all the Ijaws in Delta south, then those in Edo state with up to 10 towns, then the entirety of Ese-Odo LGA in Ondo state. Abeg, dem plenty pass Urhobo. Ijaws dominate more than 20 LGAs in Nigeria and are minorities in like 8 LGAs, haba. No comparison. Even if you add Isokos to Urhobo, it still won't meet up Ijaw. Only Tivs, Kanuris & Ibibio-Efiks combined can square up or outnumber Ijaws in Nigeria. However, Urhobo & Isokos combined should be the 6th or 7th largest ethnic group in Nigeria after the big 3, then Tivs, Kanuris and maybe (Ibibio if they are combined). However you people combined will be clearly more than Igalas, Idomas, Nupes, Gbagyis, Ebiras, Binis, Esans and Ibibios (if u don't add Efiks & others). Ijaws wouldn't have been so much, but during the politics of Old Rivers state where all the Lowland peoples were classified as Ijaws, it led to the swallowing up of other lowland tribes into Ijaw identity. Are you aware that Ijaws are even trying to swallow up the Igbo speaking Ndoki people in Rivers state? Not linguistically of course, but politically. 3 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 9:37pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
pazienza: Like I told you, Igbos are more visible in the north because they never integrate with Hausas, unlike Yoruba muslims who integrate with Hausas after the 1st & 2nd generation. Someone like you who doesn't understand Hausa language very well will never be able to tell the difference between Hausanized people and Hausas. I can tell the difference to a large extent. When we were in camp there was this girl who speaks Hausa very well and moves with the other Hausa click of girls. Everybody else thought she was Hausa, but when I studied her, I knew she just couldn't be Hausa, she must be Ebira or Auchi. I confronted her in private and she opened up to me that truly she was Ebira but she grew up in Sokoto. I am very good at this, so for Hausanized yorubas to catch me unaware of this, it tells you how well Yorubas integrate with Hausas, hence go unnoticed unlike Igbos. Igbos are more than Yorubas in the north, I agree. But for every 10 Igbos in the north, there are 8 yorubas. It's not the way people paint it like there are few yorubas in the north, far from it. My brother met a 3rd generation Yoruba girl in Jos whose father has never been to his village and they died in the Jos crisis. She now claims to be a Plateau indigene and has adopted a Plateau name, as she has nowhere else to go and doesn't even know where she is from in Yoruba land. If we talk about migration around the world, of course nobody can argue this with the Igbos. However, taking specific countries like Ghana, Togo, Mali, Sierra Leone/Liberia & UK. There are far more Yorubas than Igbos in these places. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Efewestern: 9:45pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Nowenuse: The reason why I'm debating this is because Ijaw land isnt densely populated unlike Urhobo land, I get your points thou. 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 9:50pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
scholes0: Edos had the most powerful empire in Southern Nigeria (only rivalled by the Oyo empire). Of course, this gives them a stronger culture and power. Edos wouldn't have had far more cultural power than the Kanuris, but Hausa influence promoted by the British swallowed these poeple up. Edos are the most powerful minority in the south and since the south is more educated and exposed than the north, it automatically gives the Edos better power compared to the Northern minorities. However, when it comes to political power, Ijaws are the most powerful minority group in Nigeria, no question. Ijaws now have the best music artistes among minorities in Nigeria. Urhobos have the comedy industry. The movie industry is a tie among all the southern minorities. In terms of Education, hmm no one is superior. |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Yujin(m): 10:11pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
mandarin:You can continue to spew whatever you like but I just clarified you on the situation in Jos. Igbos are far more than Yorubas there. Igbos don't integrate into Muslim areas and are unapologetic about it. In other, areas they integrate well. Igbos are easy targets because of the average hatred against them plus the visible investments they have and not for any other reason. In Niger state, there are lots of Igbos including the Kontagora he mentioned. I've been to Minna and it was Igbos I saw there especially around the central market close to St. Anthony's Anglican church. I don't have to lie to convince anyone. I have relatives in Bida and they corroborate a large Igbo community there too. You see on thing every sincere northern minority will agree with me is that the presence of Igbos in the north is helping to balance the dominance of the Hausa and fulanis. Why is it not the Yorubas? Mind if the Igbo population is not sizeable it wouldn't make such impact. Bias against Igbos will always creep on here but the reality of ground can never be erased. I've gone to a good portion of the north to make these postulations. 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Efewestern: 10:11pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
pazienza: I don't get you, Benin had always been cosmopolitan even before Midwest was formed, the Urhobos, Itsekiris etc had emigrated to Benin as far as 1900 doing business with the locals. Places like Okitipupa, Ilesha and Oshogbo were also flooded by the Urhobos during that period, it has nothing to do with administrative centre like you just painted. |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 10:28pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Efewestern: Yes and this is why I think Urhobo for instance can compare a tribe like Gbagyi. Gbagyis dominate 16 LGAs in Nigeria and are minorities in like 6 other LGAs, but their areas are not densely populated. (Although, the north has a very big landmass). Efewestern: Like I challenged scholes0 that he should go to an Urhobo group on facebook and check the profiles of random urhobos there and he will discover that 8 in 10 of them he will find in that group live in Delta state. Do you want to dispute this? Urhobos still migrate of course, but not like before. The average Urhobo today leaves his village to Warri or at least Lagos/Benin, unlike in the past where Urhobos migrated as far as Liberia. I have close Urhobo friends who were all born in Liberia, but they came back to Warri in the late 90s. I won't even talk about Jos. See the only 2 Niger deltan minorities who have won Big Brother (Karen Igho & Efe Ejeba). They are both Urhobo and born and bred in Jos. Karen's dowry was even paid Jos to tell you how connected these people are to Jos. My Aunty married a Jos urhobo. If this man doesn't tell you he is an urhobo, you will never believe. Since the rise of Warri as a large urban center, Urhobos no longer migrate as they use to do before. Many also came back. But Igalas on the other hand are leaving as if there is a disease epidemic in their homeland. Their population in Jos, Kaduna, Zaria & Kano is up to 500k. They are also moving to the south too. I have met so many of them here in Warri and Benin. Abuja is now their headquarters. They are everywhere in Abuja. Okay, see, I just did an experiment now. I went to an Igala forum I belong to on facebook and among the first 10 profiles I checked, none of them was living in Kogi state and 7 out of that 10 were living in Abuja Here is the forum. Check for yourself and see. https://mbasic./216213425153323?bacr=1572383494%3A2446405302134113%3A2446405302134113%2C0%2C0%3A7%3AKw%3D%3D&multi_permalinks&refid=18 With all these migration of the Igalas, yet you still see them having densely populated towns & LGAs. As you yourself can see, all colonial records showed Igalas to be more than Urhobos. Urhobos grew in population because of their high birthrates. However, Igalas also have high birthrates because most of them used to be muslim, but now it is more like a 50/50. Also, did I hear you say in SW no minority can displace Urhobo? What about the Ebiras? I don't think even scholes0 will argue this one. Okay see now, I just went to the forum DELTANS HOW UNA SEE AM, and among the first 12 Urhobo profiles I checked, 8 were living in Delta state (Asaba, Warri & Ughelli). Didn't I tell you? Here is the facebook page below. https://mbasic./469955773049857?refid=18&_ft_=qid.6753338570925135818%3Amf_story_key.2763131160398962%3Agroup_id.469955773049857%3Atop_level_post_id.2763131160398962%3Atl_objid.2763131160398962%3Acontent_owner_id_new.100022369338731%3Atext_formatting.1881421442117417%3Asrc.22%3Astory_location.6%3Afilter.GroupStoriesByActivityEntQuery&__tn__=C-R 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 11:13pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Ethnic profile of bauchi please.hausas dont need to dominate a town where there settlers na l,they will simply spread out.i believe that out of the three districts of the state,hausa dominate one,gwari one and nupe one.saying that muazu aliyu father is hausa and this doesn't mean he is fully hausa betrayed you.is it where his mother or friends come from that he should come from? I heard immediate past governor abubakar of bauchi is ebira while yuguda is a minority.i believe bala is hausa or fulani |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 11:17pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Efewestern:Yes sir except in delta |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by babtoundey(m): 11:26pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Iamgrey5: Your assessment remains baseless. How do you determine the religion of the majority of the people in a state by faith of the people that rule them? Religion plays very inconsequential role in ascendancy of governorship position in Oyo state. The past and present governor won elections not by pitching their tent and loyalty and identifying with certain religious sects. Nobody voted for Makinde because he was (or seen as) a Christian. The failure and arrogance of past administration gave him an edge. The same thing can be said of Ajimobi (a Muslim) and Akala (a Christian). Ajimobi won, mainly because people were tired of Akala's handling of the state affair. When you're talking about elections and voting pattern in Oyo state, my dear, always remove religious sentiment out of it. That the governor, as it is at the moment, is a Christian doesn't mean the state is predominantly, Christian. By the way, I am also from Oyo state. |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Iamgrey5(m): 5:40am On Oct 30, 2019 |
babtoundey:I believe you don't get my point again There's no time we have had a Christian/Christian or Muslim/Muslim ticket in Oyo state i.e. christian governor and Deputy governor because of the our peculiarities as a religious diverse state. Nonetheless, such has never been put into consideration in Ondo or Ekitin state because of their large christian population. I hope you understand! |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Haywhysat: 6:29am On Oct 30, 2019 |
I'm always shocked when people say Muslim dominate my state, osun, how come... Am from osun, East senatorial district and Christians overwhelmly dominate almost all local government here, and u can still find Christians in other osun west and central... 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by YourNemesis: 7:06am On Oct 30, 2019 |
Nowenuse: Bro not all of Ese Odo LG is of ijoid stock. 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:15am On Oct 30, 2019 |
Nowenuse:wow sir you are well informed oo. In your opinion urhobo and Benin which has more population? 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by babtoundey(m): 10:37am On Oct 30, 2019 |
Iamgrey5: I must have misunderstood what you wrote earlier for something else. Apologies. |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by pazienza(m): 6:06pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
Efewestern: Benin City has always been an administrative headquarters of multi ethnic entities. Be it multiethnic Bini empire, Midwest, Bendel and now multiethnic Edo state. 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by OMANBALA1: 7:23pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
pazienza: Gbam...they are united in their hatred towards the Igbo nation. 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:29pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
pazienza:multi ethnic Benin empire? Lol lies |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Efewestern: 8:48pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
pazienza: You claimed other ethnic groups in the Delta emigrated to Benin because it was an administrative centre, how well do you explain the heavy Urhobo presence in faraway Okitipupa even though it was never an administrative headquarters of the Urhobos? You are still not getting it, the reason people emigrate to other places is not because of anything but for economic reasons, administrative centre is far from it. 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by pazienza(m): 10:59pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
Efewestern: Being administrative headquarters bring with it many economic advantages, which draw people in. Look at Lagos and Abuja. 5 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 11:11pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
Yujin: I think I agree with you here as a Jos indigene. Yorubas lost more people and money in the 2008 & 2010 Jos crisis firstly because Yorubas are of 2 religions. Both Yoruba muslims & christians are caught in the crossfire between both sides unlike Igbos who easily join forces with the christian indigenes and only suffer casualty on one end. That of Yoruba muslims is even the worse. Hausa fulani muslims see them as inferior/fake muslims, so Hausas even chase them away from muslim areas too. Most importantly, Yorubas are the kind of people who tend to be cowardly outside their homeland. An Igbo man can fight you even in your own village just to defend himself, his family & properties. Yorubas use to truly dominate Nasarawa Gong areas of Jos, but they allowed Hausa-fulanis chase them out and take over the place without even a fight or showdown. If it was Igbos, such would never have happened. Cc Mandarin 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 11:39pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
garfield1: I am not really arguing if Muazu is Hausa. I think he is. The Hausa settlers in Niger east are finding it very difficult to use religion to mix with the people of Niger east because half of these people are christians. The christian Gbagyis are the ones who will always remind the likes of Muazu & Babangida that they are not true indigenes of the area and they are not Gbagyi. However, left for these people, they really want to integrate. They never identify themselves as Hausa in public. Hausas do not dominate any senatorial district in Niger. But they and the fulanis have the strongest minority populations in both Niger north & Niger east. Niger north is dominated by Kainji tribes. Bauchi is very very very heterogenous. There are over 50 indigenous tribes in Bauchi state. However, this heterogeneity is dying as everyone has adopted Hausa as their mother tongue. That Bauchi north axis (Katagum) have the Bolewa, Karekare, Zagezage, Kanuris and other tribes you find in Yobe south as the main indigenes. They and the indigenous tribes of Yobe south are the same people, but the differences are becoming very obscured as these people and the Hausa fulanis in their midst are now becoming one and indifferentiable. Bauchi south & central have the Jarawas as the largest tribe, then Gerawa (the original indigenes of Bauchi town), Ningawa, Pa'awa, Kirfawa, Zulawa, Warjawa, Sayawa and dozens of other tribes with Hausas & fulanis. Most of these tribes have adopted Hausa as their language, but the elderly still speak the language in the rural areas in some cases. Among all the major tribes in Bauchi state, only the Sayawa of Tafawa Balewa/Bogoro are primarily christians. There are few minority tribes around Sayawa who are christians too, though, these tribes are a spillover from Plateau state. Jarawa people are 35% christians from what I heard, but I have not yet confirmed it. The truth is that your ethnic origin is not really a very big deal in Bauchi state (unless of course you are a christian). Otherwise, as long as you are a muslim, you are good to go. Although, candidates opposing each other may claim their rival is a Yoruba, an Auchi or an Igala man in order to reduce their support base This was how they claimed Kwankwaso was a yoruba man all over Kano These things may be true, but in most cases they are lies. To be honest, I am not 100% sure of the tribes of the past governors of Bauchi state. Different people say different things. However, I have heard from most sources that most of them are fulanis. Lastly, there is still discrimination of tribal muslims by Hausa fulanis in Bauchi state. A Bauchi indigene told me that some Hausas do not respond if they hear a Jarawa man calling for prayers or sitting to lead prayers. They call these tribal muslims tubebe or musulmin Sardauna, meaning muslims who just converted not long ago. 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 11:45pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
YourNemesis: Hmm, apart from the Apois & Arogbos, who else is in Ese Odo? I hope you are not counting the Apois as non-ijoids? These people might have switched to a yoruba dialect, but they themselves and everyone else knows that they are originally Ijaws. 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 11:48pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
Igbosmoker: Urhobos should be more than the Benins as of today, but in the past it was not so. Urhobos have the highest birthrates in the South. This is what boosted their population not too long ago. This is why whenever the largest minority tribes were mentioned in any colonial documents you will never find Urhobos anywhere close. |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 11:56pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Nice.please write a book or an online research about nigeria tribes.we will also contribute 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 11:59pm On Oct 30, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Sorry sir,the ibibios or generally akwa ibom tribes have the highest birth rate in the south.these people are almost exclusively monogamous unlike the urhobos who love polygamy.again,it is very common to see a young akwa ibom girl unmarried with 4-7 kids.these people just love the sight of kids and dislike abortion. |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 12:53am On Oct 31, 2019 |
oilyngbati: pazienza: OMANBALA1: And if I am to ask you guys. How or what exactly have Igbos done in order to deserve the love of their neighbouring minority tribes? (Let us even leave out the Yorubas & Hausa-fulanis who are a majority tribe and assume majority rivalry between the big 3 tribes). Do you guys think love, admiration and respect is just earned like that? When I was in Uniben, my closest friend was an Oguta boy from Imo state. His father was Esan originally, but even his father grew up in Imo state. His mother was an Oguta indigene and they all grew up in Oguta. So I see absolutely nothing that is Esan about this guy. This guy was the most Igbotic person in my department. He spoke Igbo better than all the full Igbos in the department, he gives Igbo parables and most times he was always the one that gingers the other Igbos to freely speak Igbo in the class. (Igbos tend to have a language inferiority complex compared to Yorubas & Hausas). Yorubas & Hausas speak their language anywhere, anytime and anyhow and they don't care. Whenever I was going to buy electronics in the market, I always take him along. Infact, I had a terrible deal once with an Igbo trader on a product. He was the one who saved my life and got me a better deal by scattering undiluted Igbo for them Now this guy in his life can never badmouth Igbos or hate Igbos. If he goes to his village in Edo state and he hears his people talking bad about Igbos, he will instantly correct them. This is because he owes his upbringing to Igbo land and feels a certain allegiance and love to the land.... This is one way Hausas & Yorubas heavily win the hearts of other people, especially their neighbouring minority tribes. They are very welcoming and accomodating of others in their land and they will never discriminate you as long as you integrate into the culture. This my Oguta friend for example, I'm sure he will never be able to contest and win elections in Imo state because they will always remind him that his father is from Edo state. Igbos are a very clannish and petty people when it comes to ethnic nationalism. However, if it is Hausas and even to an extent Yoruba, this my friend will easily be accepted, but in Igbo land, an Mbaise man will not even be accepted in Ngwa to lead Ngwa, even if his grandfather was born in Ngwa. How terrible. I am from Jos and during the Jos crisis, I saw so many Yorubas, Igbos and others who grew up in Jos and were writing very nostalgic pieces about the crisis, enlightening the world about what was happening and mobilizing people for peace. I never even saw the written piece of a Plateau indigene. Most of these people no longer live in Jos, but they owe their upbringing to Jos and hence their allegiance. I have met people in the south, who are from the south but grew up in Jos or anywhere around the north and immediately they saw me and knew that I was from Jos, they immediately took me as a brother and had this sense of kinship and trust towards me. They will call me their BROTHER Likewise me who is from Jos and I grew up in Delta state. Whenever I am outside Delta state and I meet a Deltan. I always feel this sense of kinship. When I was in Kebbi state for youth service and I heard 2 people speaking Urhobo, I was very excited and I greeted and introduced myself with the little Urhobo I knew I was always patronizing them before others, till I left that place. Life is a give and take. You cannot reap from where you did not sow. This is why I ask you Igbos, what exactly have you people done to deserve the love of others? You are not accomodating and welcoming to strangers, you are not very sociable and free. You people do not intermarry very well. You do not give opportunities to other people in areas you dominate. (Abia state govt sacking all Imo state workers from their civil service comes to my mind). It is always you people taking from others. Outsmarting and defrauding others in business. Taking advantage of opportunities in people's lands but never giving them in yours e.t.c, yet you always cry of how all other Nigerians are against you or hate you people. Continue in your self induced pity and delusions or wake up to smell the coffee. 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:57am On Oct 31, 2019 |
Nowenuse:hmm yet the Benin's are far more progressive than most of other minority tribe with higher population. With a small size of 10,400 square killometers |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Yujin(m): 8:40am On Oct 31, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Well I was silent on the religious dichotomy of the Yorubas being a contributing factor to their major loss because I know that most Yoruba Muslims killed were actually killed by their fellow Hausa/fulani Muslims. All Christians( settlers and indigenes) hardly attack Yoruba Muslims except in the case where the particular Yoruba was found assisting the Hausa/Fulanis in the attacks. So it still was majorly a one sided attack. Their failure to stand up and defend their territory was sadly their undoing. You see, one Yoruba here was yapping on how Igbos don't integrate in the north but he failed to realize that integration could be in various levels. To the Hausa and fulanis, integration means joining them to do whatever they're doing even if it is wrong. Yoruba Muslims who though copy Hausas in almost everything but fail to join in the attacks are those either killed or chased away. Those who join in the attacks ended up being killed. Is that what integration is all about? We( I and my friends some of who are Igbos) always joined in the Izere people cultural festival that involves the painting of faces are moving around Jos with dangerous weapons without having to hurt anyone. I can't remember the name of that festival now. We use to chant something like this: ' arom bara, arom batsang x2- yei ni shosh. The drums were loud and rhythmic. It was fun. Even some Yoruba boys used to join. The only people who don't join are the Hausa and fulanis. In fact they detest it but someone here will tell me Igbos don't integrate. 5 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by olril17(m): 9:25am On Oct 31, 2019 |
Nowenuse:I like reading posts from this person... 3 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by olril17(m): 9:29am On Oct 31, 2019 |
pazienza:u are too emotional..in real life yorubas and Igbks roll together..go to the various markets in SW and see..its our politicians and not the people who breed hate..Igbo politicians included 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Yujin(m): 9:45am On Oct 31, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Most of what you wrote here is true but I'll have to correct some wrong assumptions. As to language inferiority, it is not true. Igbos don't feel inferior speaking their language freely. You fail to realize the level of psychological suppression the Nigerian government placed on the Igbos. There's this look that great Igbos whenever they speak their language outside the territory they dominate especially in the north and no one can tell what can happen to him or her after identifying yourself through your language hence most of them speak English coupled with the accusations against Igbos of trying to force others to speak their language. Did you notice that until recently, most Igbo musicians of contemporary music rather infuse Yoruba or Hausa into their music? It is because of what I told you. Do you notice even in the clothes most Igbo politicians and celebs wear until recent? It is because of the same thing. The moment an Igbo man tries to assert his own culture, he becomes a suspect and is termed dominating. As for discrimination, my people do this a lot and as you rightly pointed out, it is not specific to others. We even do it to ourselves which is most worrisome. Hopefully, we will get over it soon. I believe it is born out of our highly competitive nature. You see Pazienza is my friend, brother and comrade but in this particular case I'll fault him although I understand his fears. I lived in Jos and the relationship with the natives was not all rosy as we had to tolerate a lot too from unwarranted name callings to outright abuses but we were able to look at the brighter side and didn't have to condemn the indigenes. We noticed that ignorance was a huge reason for the numerous misrepresentations which most of you fail to factor in when Igbos are being discussed. After some events, most of them(natives) were apologizing to us for their actions and rightly blamed it on ignorance. We had no choice but to forgive. It still doesn't mean that once in a while I don't get to see some Plateau indigenes who hate Igbos but I know better to isolate those instances from the pervading present situation. The fear of a relapse in critical times is what Pazienza fears hence still painting you all in one brush. I can assure you that Igbos are a very nice people who unfortunately are sending most times the wrong vibes. Igbo are republicans and that makes them to have independent mindsets. Meet the positive minded one and enjoy a world hard to see. Meet the negative one, and have your heart filled with pains. As a people, we can hardly fit into the description most of you expect because it's never going to happen. See someone like Aguiyi Ironsi who would never listen to the advice of his fellow Igbo brothers to make his security aides to be from his own people but rather chose to remain professional. It cost him his life and placed all Igbos where we are today. See someone like Nzeogwu who everyone believes had a genuine plan for Nigeria but was betrayed by Ifeajuna who was so selfish. See someone like Ojukwu who I believed was the most misunderstood man of all. He sacrificed a lot from being pro Nigeria to having to lead a brutalized people at a very young age. Wealth was never a problem for him and he was on his way up the ladder to personal fame. He would have been a great leader if he had led a country. He was highly pan African and know the prejudice Africans faced. See how divers minded we are but to you all, we collectively want to dominate you. This is why I choose Biafra over Nigeria because that suspicion will always be there and Igbos will never change into the description most of you expect. Do you see what happened during the days SE dominated the Senate Presidency? It was all individual assertions. If Igbos are rightly integrated into Nigeria, all that's needed is for others to support the particular Igbo man against another suspected of being too ethnocentric. But thinking to suppress all Igbos simply because some of them appeared domineering will see to the continues rejection of Nigeria just as it stands today. If all Igbos were dominating like most you think, then we would have dominated all the surrounding minority tribes around us but it hasn't been so. 2 Likes |
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