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Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Ishilove: 10:40pm On Aug 20, 2012
diluminati:
chei see total idiocy
Coming from a complete airhead,I'll let that slide...
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by wiegraf: 12:29am On Aug 21, 2012
Bélla3: no be smal thing o.
Mac daddy, if u rape a girl u must marry her! What is wickdnes is dat?

I'm not sure if you're playing around, but if you are fine with marrying someone that raped you, that's fine, your prerogative. Many other women though would not be happy just meekly surrendering. They won't be happy living, cooking, banging etc the person who did something that horrible to them potentially for the rest of their lives. In essence, it's slavery. You encourage such behavior you get in the way of their struggle. That's selfish because, again, if it's fine with you that does not mean it's ok for others, and this is a basic rights issue.

This seems to be a christian only thread so.... I'm off. That statement just worried me.
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Bella3(f): 10:50am On Aug 21, 2012
wiegraf:

I'm not sure if you're playing around, but if you are fine with marrying someone that raped you, that's fine, your prerogative. Many other women though would not be happy just meekly surrendering. They won't be happy living, cooking, banging etc the person who did something that horrible to them potentially for the rest of their lives. In essence, it's slavery. You encourage such behavior you get in the way of their struggle. That's selfish because, again, if it's fine with you that does not mean it's ok for others, and this is a basic rights issue.

This seems to be a christian only thread so.... I'm off. That statement just worried me.
like i sa.id, that was in the past. Ask the bible bashers to check wel, there are other stiffer punishments. And that was a law to checkmate the wayward isrealites
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 11:12am On Aug 21, 2012
Bélla3: like i sa.id, that was in the past. Ask the bible bashers to check wel, there are other stiffer punishments. And that was a law to checkmate the wayward isrealites


What kind of stupid woman are you? Was the law right because it was in the past?

It is wrong now as it is wrong then. Your bible is wrong
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Bella3(f): 11:33am On Aug 21, 2012
MacDaddy01:


What kind of stupid woman are you? Was the law right because it was in the past?

It is wrong now as it is wrong then. Your bible is wrong
okay sir! Like i said u are angry at God nt me.
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 11:35am On Aug 21, 2012
Bélla3: okay sir! Like i said u are angry at God nt me.


Why stop at God? I am angry at unicorns, werewolves, ghosts, Zeus, Ogun and Santa Claus. Ode.


They all have the same amount of evidence for their existence; zero

I cant be angry at that which I dont believe exists
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by wiegraf: 3:19pm On Aug 21, 2012
Bélla3: like i sa.id, that was in the past. Ask the bible bashers to check wel, there are other stiffer punishments. And that was a law to checkmate the wayward isrealites

Oh yes, it was complicated. Sadly, it still is in many parts of the world. It's very troubling, least one can do is discourage it. Even if the alternative may seem bad. Sometimes being practical is not an option, and people need to make a stand.

Lucky us to be born in this era. In a 100 years our descendants would be saying the same thing too though smiley
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Ishilove: 9:32pm On Aug 21, 2012
MacDaddy01:


What kind of stupid woman are you? Was the law right because it was in the past?

It is wrong now as it is wrong then. Your bible is wrong
Smh...
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Ishilove: 9:35pm On Aug 21, 2012
MacDaddy01:


Why stop at God? I am angry at unicorns, werewolves, ghosts, Zeus, Ogun and Santa Claus. Ode.


They all have the same amount of evidence for their existence; zero

I cant be angry at that which I dont believe exists
Yet you and your ilk will not stop harping about a supposedly 'non-existent' God. How ironic.

You can't live with Him,you can't live without Him.

Nuff said
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Bella3(f): 10:44pm On Aug 21, 2012
wiegraf:

Oh yes, it was complicated. Sadly, it still is in many parts of the world. It's very troubling, least one can do is discourage it. Even if the alternative may seem bad. Sometimes being practical is not an option, and people need to make a stand.

Lucky us to be born in this era. In a 100 years our descendants would be saying the same thing too though smiley
thank you very much for being reasonable, pls explain to mac daddy.

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Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Bella3(f): 10:45pm On Aug 21, 2012
wiegraf:

Oh yes, it was complicated. Sadly, it still is in many parts of the world. It's very troubling, least one can do is discourage it. Even if the alternative may seem bad. Sometimes being practical is not an option, and people need to make a stand.

Lucky us to be born in this era. In a 100 years our descendants would be saying the same thing too though smiley
thank you very much for being reasonable, pls explain to mac daddy..
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 10:51pm On Aug 21, 2012
Ishilove:
Yet you and your ilk will not stop harping about a supposedly 'non-existent' God. How ironic.

You can't live with Him,you can't live without Him.

Nuff said

When you stop forcing hell and christian morality on us, we will stop yapping about God.

Yo dnt see us talking about Zeus or Obatala, do we?
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Johnchike(m): 9:23am On Aug 22, 2012
Macdaddy, no one cares about what you believe in, no one is forcing you to believe in God. Let us have our peace. Why attack christians on nairaland? Why not go to a central mosque and convince an Imam that there is no Allah? But once again, I don't bloody care about your views. But I pity you. Think about life after death. Or you don't believe in that also? Time will tell.

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Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 10:05am On Aug 22, 2012
Johnchike: Macdaddy, no one cares about what you believe in, no one is forcing you to believe in God. Let us have our peace. Why attack christians on nairaland? Why not go to a central mosque and convince an Imam that there is no Allah? But once again, I don't bloody care about your views. But I pity you. Think about life after death. Or you don't believe in that also? Time will tell.

lolololol......I dont attack christians. I criticize the bible and certain christian practices just like how I criticize the Quran and islamic practices here on NL


Furthermore, you must be silly to claim that no one is forcing me to believe in God. Tell that to the christians that come to my door to preach the good news or the azzholes that stop you on the road to preach. Also tell that to the christians on Nairaland who barge into atheistioc threads to tell us that we will burn in heel.


You are a typical hypocrite.
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Nobody: 10:18am On Aug 22, 2012
The man has spoken; it's either you accept it, or leave his church, or build your own church.

He has the right to define how to lead his church. Hate him or love him, the man has won respect from many people out there.

Keyboard warriors and haters can do nothing. They are good at making empty noise anyway.

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Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 10:22am On Aug 22, 2012
val_dee: The man has spoken; it's either you accept it, or leave his church, or build your own church.

He has the right to define how to lead his church. Hate him or love him, the man has won respect from many people out there.

Keyboard warriors and haters can do nothing. They are good at making empty noise anyway.

Wow....no shame.
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Nobody: 10:44am On Aug 22, 2012
MacDaddy01:

Wow....no shame.


For what?
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 10:54am On Aug 22, 2012
val_dee:

For what?


A man runs his church like tyrant (not like Jesus, the messiah of christianity) and you support him
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Nobody: 11:20am On Aug 22, 2012
MacDaddy01:


A man runs his church like tyrant (not like Jesus, the messiah of christianity) and you support him

Build your own church and run it however you like. Oh! how easy it is to see the speck in others eyes while ignoring the log in our own eyes.
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 11:33am On Aug 22, 2012
val_dee:

Build your own church and run it however you like. Oh! how easy it is to see the speck in others eyes while ignoring the log in our own eyes.


Technically, the church belongs to Jesus grin grin grin grin



On a serious note, I am not a christian and I am not subject to this nonsense cool
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Johnchike(m): 11:36am On Aug 22, 2012
Macdaddy, if that is your definition of 'force' then you must be an illiterate.

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Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Nobody: 11:42am On Aug 22, 2012
MacDaddy01:


Technically, the church belongs to Jesus grin grin grin grin



On a serious note, I am not a christian and I am not subject to this nonsense cool

Neither me. But I support the man completely. Let the spiritual revival begin
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Johnchike(m): 11:46am On Aug 22, 2012
Macdaddy, A pastor says no more indecent dressing in his church. You're an atheist, therefore this doesn't concern you. It concerns the christians in his church but guess what? They aren't complaining because they know that their pastor is right about this. But here's the problem; the DEVIL is not happy. He knows he gains from immorality...so he has a new plan..a new instrument of confusion. Macdaddy, congratulations! you're his new instrument. Well done.
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 11:50am On Aug 22, 2012
Johnchike: Macdaddy, if that is your definition of 'force' then you must be an illiterate.


Of course, like a christian bigot, you dont see that going to someone's house to tell them that they will burn in hell if they dont believe in your God is not "forcefull"


But wait, there is more;


What about government forcing christian laws on us?
-Using tax payer money to fund faith schools
-having seats in the parliament for bishops
-Using religion to criminalize homosexuality

etc
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 11:55am On Aug 22, 2012
Johnchike: Macdaddy, A pastor says no more indecent dressing in his church. You're an atheist, therefore this doesn't concern you. It concerns the christians in his church but guess what? They aren't complaining because they know that their pastor is right about this. But here's the problem; the DEVIL is not happy. He knows he gains from immorality...so he has a new plan..a new instrument of confusion. Macdaddy, congratulations! you're his new instrument. Well done.


Unfortunately for you;

a)The pastor is wrong. I have every right to complain on the internet- my right. I am not going to his church to protest

b) Wearing trouser is not indecent, it is actually more formal when it is suit trousers or formal trousers. Pastor must have some bush elements in his thinking.

c) Why is it women that he is attacking? Men cant dress indecent? Why is it always a man telling women how to dress when it comes to religion
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Johnchike(m): 1:48pm On Aug 22, 2012
Macdaddy, your problem didn't start today. It started the day your soul lost it's thirst for God. But that's another topic for another day. No one forces or threatens your life by telling you the reality of hell fire. It's an awareness campaign. You either believe or you don't. No need crying foul here. If you're so scared of hell fire that you feel christian preachers are troubling you by reminding you, you've got three options. (A) Repent and believe in the gospel (B) Warn them never to come again. (C) Report to the police that you're being harassed and threatened by unidentified groups. It's your choice. But I tell you solemnly, time will tell.

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Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 2:14pm On Aug 22, 2012
Johnchike: Macdaddy, your problem didn't start today. It started the day your soul lost it's thirst for God. But that's another topic for another day. No one forces or threatens your life by telling you the reality of hell fire. It's an awareness campaign. You either believe or you don't. No need crying foul here. If you're so scared of hell fire that you feel christian preachers are troubling you by reminding you, you've got three options. (A) Repent and believe in the gospel (B) Warn them never to come again. (C) Report to the police that you're being harassed and threatened by unidentified groups. It's your choice. But I tell you solemnly, time will tell.


Hell doesnt exist. Who said that I am scared of hell? I am annoyed from being told the same lie over and over again.

Like a brainwashed person, yo elieve in the existence of hell fire.


Lets see the rationality of hell fire;

A r.apist r.apes and kills an atheist woman.The woman dies and goes to hell. The r.apist converts in prison to christianity and then repents. When the r.apist dies, the rapist goes to heaven.

Innocent victim = hell because atheist
R.apist killer = heaven since God likes a prodigal son that repents



Hell is a joke
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Johnchike(m): 7:28pm On Aug 22, 2012
Macdaddy, Jesus is merciful. The r.apist finally realized his sins and truly repented. That is what matters most. A contrite heart. St. Paul was a murderer but later became one of the greatest apostles ever. When Jesus forgives, He forgives in totality. A man that has been righteous for many years might fornicate(example) one day. If he doesn't seek God's forgiveness and he dies, i'm not sure he would make heaven. God is not partial. Nothing unclean shall see God. As for the atheist woman, she might be legally innocent, but she is spiritually guilty. Therefore she is hell-bound. If you don't believe in God, how can you hope to be in His presence? Faith(belief) in Jesus+righteousness(no sin)= heaven. Any other thing apart from this is HELL. I can't quote the scriptures you don't believe in. Time will tell.

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Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 7:34pm On Aug 22, 2012
Johnchike: Macdaddy, Jesus is merciful. The r.apist finally realized his sins and truly repented. That is what matters most. A contrite heart. St. Paul was a murderer but later became one of the greatest apostles ever. When Jesus forgives, He forgives in totality. A man that has been righteous for many years might fornicate(example) one day. If he doesn't seek God's forgiveness and he dies, i'm not sure he would make heaven. God is not partial. Nothing unclean shall see God. As for the atheist woman, she might be legally innocent, but she is spiritually guilty. Therefore she is hell-bound. If you don't believe in God, how can you hope to be in His presence? Faith(belief) in Jesus+righteousness(no sin)= heaven. Any other thing apart from this is HELL. I can't quote the scriptures you don't believe in. Time will tell.


See this wicked human being.

So a man that molested and killed a lady would go to heaven despite ruining the lady's life and her childrens life by depriving them of a mother, just because he repents.

An innocent woman whose only crime is to be an atheist would go to hell?


Is that justice? Or are you wicked?
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Johnchike(m): 8:25pm On Aug 22, 2012
If the atheist woman should repent and believe in the gospel, she would be forgiven and would inherit heaven so long as she tries to avoid sin. However, if she eventually sins, if she seeks Jesus forgiveness, she wud make heaven. But no matter how righteous you are, without God you can't make heaven because heaven belongs to God.
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by MacDaddy01: 8:29pm On Aug 22, 2012
Johnchike: If the atheist woman should repent and believe in the gospel, she would be forgiven and would inherit heaven so long as she tries to avoid sin. However, if she eventually sins, if she seeks Jesus forgiveness, she wud make heaven. But no matter how righteous you are, without God you can't make heaven because heaven belongs to God.



Wow, you are now backtracking?

Face it eaven and hell do not make any sense.


unless you believe that all atheists and agnostics deserve the same punishment as rapists killers and thieves.
Re: Dr Olukoya Of Mfm Place Embargo On Wearing Of Trouser By Female To Church by Johnchike(m): 8:51pm On Aug 22, 2012
I'm not God. I'm not a judge and i'm not judging. But from the scripture, an atheist deserves the same fate as a murderer. Because they both fall short of the two commandments summarized by Jesus. (A) Love the Lord your God with all your heart. (B) Love your neighbour as your self. The atheist does not love God, he doesn't even believe in His existence thus mocking God. The murderer doesn't love his neighbour thus he cannot love God because you can't claim to love an unseen God if you can't love a seen neighbour. Well, if you don't believe in God's only begotten Son you can't have eternal life.

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