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Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:10am On Aug 24, 2012
anonymous6:
Like I said before Nigeria isn't perfect but Ethiopia has alot of poverty and other issues effecting their country and to start comparing is ridiculous

so you can also say Ethiopia is a mess

Ethiopia has alot of poverty, just as Nigeria has alot of poverty. But Ethiopia is still light years ahead of Nigeria, when it comes to development, and direction.

Nigeria is in shambles!!

Your President don't even know what the fvck he's doing - he has no international policy, the finance minister is a retard from world bank, the CBN governor is a Ph.D holder in Islamic studies, petroleum minister has a BSc. in architecture lol, former militants are now in-charge of patrolling offshore oil resources etc.

Nigeria is a big pile of shyte!!
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:11am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

Eritea is also a break-away region of Ethiopia, they used to be one country!

Nigerians need to questioning their leaders and stop being patriotic in a stupid way.

ethiopia probably has one of the lowest literacy ratez in Africa tongue says alot about the future of this country

Sierra Leone 40.9


Guinea 39.5


Ethiopia 35.9

Sierra Leone 35.1%



Chad 33.6


Burkina Faso 28.7


Niger 28.7


South Sudan 27.0


Mali 26.2


Somalia 24.0
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:13am On Aug 24, 2012
anonymous6:

ok, if that is what you think; this split up Nigeria talk is just talk to me

Splitting the country would be best thing to happen to Nigeria - and that's the only way we can move forward. But if we can't get that - we should get resource control, regional government, and limit migration around the country.
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:15am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

Splitting the country would be best thing to happen to Nigeria - and that's the only way we can move forward. But if we can't get that - we should get resource control, regional government, and limit migration around the country.

oduduwa republic grin tongue
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:16am On Aug 24, 2012
onila:
ethiopia probably has one of the lowest literacy ratez in Africa tongue says alot about the future of this country
Sierra Leone 40.9
Guinea 39.5
Ethiopia 35.9
Sierra Leone 35.1%
Chad 33.6
Burkina Faso 28.7
Niger 28.7
South Sudan 27.0
Mali 26.2
Somalia 24.0

Literacy in terms of Western education, they speak Amharic over there - and they're literate in their form of education. Just because the white man puts up a stupid stat, based on what he believes is right - you want to cite that, no? grin

Grow up, omalicha nma.

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Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:17am On Aug 24, 2012
onila:
oduduwa republic grin tongue

Can't wait lol!! grin

2015!! cool
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by PhysicsQED(m): 4:18am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

And how did Nigeria fare against Boko Haram and MEND? Eritea is a strong country as well, and they've the luxury of sea access.

Even America with all its advance weapons still can't defeat bow and arrow using Taliban in Afghanistan lol.

I'm not sure this is a reasonable comparison. But anyways, has Ethiopia defeated al Shabaab? No.


And I'm not sure I buy the argument about Eritrea really being a militarily strong country. Maybe you should have said "relatively strong" compared to some others in the region.
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by anonymous6(f): 4:18am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

Splitting the country would be best thing to happen to Nigeria - and that's the only way we can move forward. But if we can't get that - we should get resource control, regional government, and limit migration around the country.

Nigeria had it's chance twice to split up, the first when they got their independence and secondly after the war and that didn't happen. it is to late for that and will end to war, and cause more harm then good because the north will not allow that to happen due to the fact of natural resources, and lastly Nigerians have invested alot all over Nigeria. What's effecting Nigeria now is corruption, accountability and jobs
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:20am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

Literacy in terms of Western education, they speak Amharic over there - and they're literate in their form of education. Just because the white man puts up a stupid stat, based on what he believes is right - you want to cite that, no? grin

Grow up, omalicha nma.

just accept the fact Ethiopia is one of Africa's poorest states
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by PhysicsQED(m): 4:22am On Aug 24, 2012
TerryCarr: peace agreements does not count as a loss and Eritrea got their independence from a vote

Ethiopia tried to make Eritrea a province of Ethiopia and lost. I was referring to the first war.
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:22am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

Can't wait lol!! grin

2015!! cool

grin u guys wont be relevant in Africa anymore, ya all are better in Nigeria
or will just be forgotten like your brothers in togo and benin republic
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:24am On Aug 24, 2012
PhysicsQED:
I'm not sure this is a reasonable comparison. But anyways, has Ethiopia defeated al Shabaab? No.

And I'm not sure I buy the argument about Eritrea really being a militarily strong country. Maybe you should have said "relatively strong" compared to some others in the region.

Al Shabaab war isn't Ethiopia's war - that's America's war, but America just tried to use Ethiopia to fight its battle, after it was disgraced and chased out of Somalia. And Ethiopian army achieved alot of success in Ethiopia before, they pulled out of the country. Kenya is in-charge now.

Eritrea is militarily stronger than Taliban, and if America + NATO are having a problem with Taliban, then you can't fault Ethiopia against Eritrea.

Nigeria avoided a confrontation with little Cameroon lol. So, Nigerians should be talking when other people are talking. cool
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:30am On Aug 24, 2012
anonymous6:
Nigeria had it's chance twice to split up, the first when they got their independence and secondly after the war and that didn't happen. it is to late for that and will end to war, and cause more harm then good because the north will not allow that to happen due to the fact of natural resources, and lastly Nigerians have invested alot all over Nigeria. What's effecting Nigeria now is corruption, accountability and jobs

What's affecting Nigeria is the forceful union of different people. I don't think there will ever be peace in Nigeria - Igbos and Yoruba will NEVER agree, and Hausa/Fulani will always want to dominate. The best solution is for everyone to go their separate ways, and maintain mutual friendship.

Do you think Yoruba people are happy about other people migrating to their region, and still calling them names for being accommodating?

Do you think the oil producing states are happy with sharing their oil revenue with everyone?
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:33am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

Literacy in terms of Western education, they speak Amharic over there - and they're literate in their form of education. Just because the white man puts up a stupid stat, based on what he believes is right - you want to cite that, no? grin

Grow up, omalicha nma.

look @ the gdp and per capita of Nigeria and ethiopia-compare tongue

ethiopia

GDP per capita $1,100 PPP
GDP $31.71 Billion (2011)[1]

Nigeria
GDP-$235.92 Billion
GDP PER CPITA- $2,600 (2011 est.)
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by PhysicsQED(m): 4:35am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

Al Shabaab war isn't Ethiopia's war - that's America's war, but America just tried to use Ethiopia to fight its battle, after it was disgraced and chased out of Somalia. And Ethiopian army achieved alot of success in Ethiopia before, they pulled out of the country. Kenya is in-charge now.

Eritrea is militarily stronger than Taliban, and if America + NATO are having a problem with Taliban, then you can't fault Ethiopia against Eritrea.

Nigeria avoided a confrontation with little Cameroon lol. So, Nigerians should be talking when other people are talking. cool

So you think the government of Nigeria should employ the same kind of tactics against Boko haram that Ethiopia employed against al Shabaab?

Nigeria avoided a confrontation with Cameroon because the president at that time was a stooge to the West. It wasn't about military capability.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced about some kind of huge disparity in military capabilities between Eritrea, Ethiopia, and Nigeria. All three are probably nothing special.
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:35am On Aug 24, 2012
onila:
look @ the gdp and per capita of Nigeria and ethiopia-compare tongue

ethiopia

GDP per capita $1,100 PPP
GDP $31.71 Billion (2011)[1]

Nigeria
GDP-$235.92 Billion
GDP PER CPITA- $2,600 (2011 est.)

80% of Nigeria's GDP gets looted by your thieving politicians, and they stash it in foreign banks - so that crap is just for journals, CIA fact file, and wikipedia.. undecided
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:37am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

What's affecting Nigeria is the forceful union of different people. I don't think there will ever be peace in Nigeria - Igbos and Yoruba will NEVER agree, and Hausa/Fulani will always want to dominate. The best solution is for everyone to go their separate ways, and maintain mutual friendship.

Do you think Yoruba people are happy about other people migrating to their region, and still calling them names for being accommodating?


Do you think the oil producing states are happy with sharing their oil revenue with everyone?

grin grin ROTFL!!!!

lagos will just be like sokoto without oil money grin so you Yoruba;s shldnt be feeling 2 funky

who will give a fuc.k about Lagos when Nigeria breaks away grin
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:39am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

80% of Nigeria's GDP gets looted by your thieving politicians, and they stash it in foreign banks - so that crap is just for journals, CIA fact file, and wikipedia.. undecided

the same as ethiopia with a even lower gdp per capita tongue that country is fuc-king poor
nothing 2 envy
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:42am On Aug 24, 2012
PhysicsQED:
So you think the government of Nigeria should employ the same kind of tactics against Boko haram that Ethiopia employed against al Shabaab?

Nigeria avoided a confrontation with Cameroon because the president at that time was a stooge to the West. It wasn't about military capability.

Anyway, I'm still not convinced about some kind of huge disparity in military capabilities between the Eritrea, Ethiopia, and Nigeria. All three are probably nothing special.

It was because of that, it was because the President knew Nigeria would be humiliated by Cameroon. Nigerian Navy at that time was in a terrible state, and we an airforce that was almost non-existent. The President was smart to give them Bakassi, to avoid the the embarrassment a military confrontation would've caused.

By the way, my pops is a veteran of the Nigeria civil war - and he said the same thing at that time.

Ethiopia is a formidable country militarily, and they've been for a long time. Don't forget they once defeated the Italians - and Italy won the 2nd confrontation with the use of chemical and biological weapons.
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by PhysicsQED(m): 4:45am On Aug 24, 2012
I didn't deny that Ethiopia was strong in the past.

But on your claim about being humiliated, if Nigeria was so scared then, then why were they willing to send soldiers to the Cameroonian border all those previous times under Buhari, IBB, Abacha, etc? The claim that they were scared of Cameroon's military capability just doesn't make much sense to me.


edit: The only other factor I can think of is the military capability of the French. Maybe that would be relevant.
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:46am On Aug 24, 2012
onila:
grin grin ROTFL!!!!

lagos will just be like sokoto without oil money grin so you Yoruba;s shldnt be feeling 2 funky

who will give a fuc.k about Lagos when Nigeria breaks away grin

Loool!! Lagos has been thriving hundreds of years before there was a country called; Nigeria - and it will continue to thrive.

And Lagos has abundance of oil - but they just don't want to touch it for now. Epe, Ikorodu, Badagry, Apapa, and Lagos Island/Ikoyi has almost the same topography as all the oil producing areas in Niger Delta - but they don't really care about exploring the oil for now.

Ogun state (Yewa and Ijebu regions) has abundance of oil as well.

I'm just laughing at you!! grin grin
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:48am On Aug 24, 2012
You don't need to study geology to know that Lagos(the biggest sea line in Nigeria) has abundance of both offshore and onshore oil. Just take a look at the lagoon flowing into the Atlantic ocean - and all the creeks in Lagos lol..

Ogun state is another state with massive offshore and onshore potentials.
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:49am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

It was because of that, it was because the President knew Nigeria would be humiliated by Cameroon. Nigerian Navy at that time was in a terrible state, and we an airforce that was almost non-existent. The President was smart to give them Bakassi, to avoid the the embarrassment a military confrontation would've caused.

By the way, my pops is a veteran of the Nigeria civil war - and he said the same thing at that time.

Ethiopia is a formidable country militarily, and they've been for a long time. Don't forget they once defeated the Italians - and Italy won the 2nd confrontation with the use of chemical and biological weapons.

Nigeria army destroyed the cameroonian army under Abacha;s military rule

thats why cameroon took the case 2 ICJ court and the African Union

if was yr mumu town's man OBJ who dashed it away because he wanted third term,
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by anonymous6(f): 4:49am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

What's affecting Nigeria is the forceful union of different people. I don't think there will ever be peace in Nigeria - Igbos and Yoruba will NEVER agree, and Hausa/Fulani will always want to dominate. The best solution is for everyone to go their separate ways, and maintain mutual friendship.

Do you think Yoruba people are happy about other people migrating to their region, and still calling them names for being accommodating?

Do you think the oil producing states are happy with sharing their oil revenue with everyone?

No what is effecting Nigeria now is corruption and jobs, if most Nigerian state governments start taking care of their citizens by providing basic necessities, opportunities, and having available jobs for the citizens to do something useful there wouldn't be any time for BOKO HARAM, and other nuisances in Nigeria. If Nigeria had did that these issues among the tribes wouldn't even come up because as much as yoruba and igbo you say have their disagreements here and there, it is minor because they don't let it interfere in them progressing. It is really Northern Nigeria that is a little bit the issue now because of literacy issues, and etc. They are not in the same pace as southern Nigeria and it is their leaders that have to blame for that. When you make people productive and educated, Boko Haram will be the last thing that will come into their minds moving forward will be.
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:50am On Aug 24, 2012
PhysicsQED: I didn't deny that Ethiopia was strong in the past.

But on your claim about being humiliated, if Nigeria was so scared then, then why were they willing to send soldiers to the Cameroonian border all those previous times under Buhari, IBB, Abacha, etc? The claim that they were scared of Cameroon's military capability just doesn't make much sense to me.

edit: The only other factor I can think of is the military capability of the French. Maybe that would be relevant.

How many Nigerian soldiers were killed during the little confrontation they had in the 90s?
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by SmoothCrim: 4:51am On Aug 24, 2012
Only Ghanaian Rule can save Ethiopia!!! grin
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:51am On Aug 24, 2012
bittyend:

Loool!! Lagos has been thriving hundreds of years before there was a country called; Nigeria - and it will continue to thrive.

And Lagos has abundance of oil - but they just don't want to touch it for now. Epe, Ikorodu, Badagry, Apapa, and Lagos Island/Ikoyi has almost the same topography as all the oil producing areas in Niger Delta - but they don't really care about exploring the oil for now.

Ogun state (Yewa and Ijebu regions) has abundance of oil as well.

I'm just laughing at you!! grin grin

those miserable oil wells in Yoruba land grin

lagos will just be like sokoto without Niger delta oil
accept the fact
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by TerryCarr(m): 4:53am On Aug 24, 2012
onila:

ethiopia probably has one of the lowest literacy ratez in Africa tongue says alot about the future of this country

Sierra Leone 40.9


Guinea 39.5


Ethiopia 35.9

Sierra Leone 35.1%



Chad 33.6


Burkina Faso 28.7


Niger 28.7


South Sudan 27.0


Mali 26.2


Somalia 24.0
justified Ethiopia's Official language is Amharic and not everybody speaks it. the nation is an "ethnic federation" and most outside addis and the Amhara region speaks their own native language and don't know Amharic and the wrighting system is not Latin so yeah here is how you spell the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia in Ge'ez(the writing system) የኢትዮጵያ ፌዴራላዊ ዲሞክራሲያዊ ሪፐብሊክ and not every language uses Ge'ez
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by SmoothCrim: 4:53am On Aug 24, 2012
Ghana is superior to Nigeria and Ethiopia together!! grin
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by bittyend(m): 4:54am On Aug 24, 2012
anonymous6:
No what is effecting Nigeria now is corruption and jobs, if Nigerian governments start taking care of their citizens by providing basic necessities, and giving jobs for the citizens to do something useful there wouldn't be any time for BOKO HARAM, and other nuisances in Nigeria. If Nigeria had did that these issues among the tribes wouldn't even come up because as much as yoruba and igbo you say have their disagreements here and there, it is minor because they don't let it interfere in them progressing. It is really Northern Nigeria that is a little bit the issue now because of literacy issues, and etc. They are not in the same pace as southern Nigeria and it is their leaders that have to blame for that. When you make people productive and educated, Boko Haram will be the last thing that will come into their minds.

The disagreement between the tribes isn't minor - they don't trust one another. Everyone aligns with their tribes before the country, and trust me, Nigeria will never be one. Boko Haram is just the new boogieman in town - before BH, they never trusted one another. Yoruba will always fight for Yoruba interest, Hausa'Fulani will always want to dominate, and Igbos will always think Yoruba owe them for what happened during the civil war.
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by onila(f): 4:54am On Aug 24, 2012
SmoothCrim: Only Ghanaian Rule can save Ethiopia!!! grin

whats this about ghanaian rule anyways grin

why cant you guys teach Nigeria about governance

Ghana has made no attempt to help other west African countries

yr own is just too be blabbing everywhere! ewu!
Re: Ethiopia-the Birth Of Nations-the Origin Of The Green, Yellow And Red Flag! by TerryCarr(m): 4:54am On Aug 24, 2012
SmoothCrim: Ghana is superior to Nigeria and Ethiopia together!! grin
and Botswana puts everybody to shame grin

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