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PAGAN 9JA:
thank you MODS fo front page. our effort have finally paid off. today we Traditional Tribal Pagans are finally recognised. it is a big leap forward for us. I humbly thank you once again.

Not a leap forward, but several leaps backward!
It is too late. You can't turn the hand of the clock. Go and thank the Christian God for sending missionaries that taught your teachers how to read and write who now taught you. Else you won't be here leaping anywhere. Thank them too for allowing your twin relatives to live. Just those 2 are enough. I won't mention reducing your language to an orthographic form

With all these i am tempted to become an atheist. if im to remain a christian then the old testament should be taken out of the holy bible

blasterman: PLUMEANUS u were the one posting pictures of drought and famine victims in other to prove wat. Wat has dat got 2 do with the topic. Blame my phone for the mistake

PLASTERMAN
Poorly educate sir:
I did not publish photos of drought. The hands are not chained drought ... You lied constantly, you disrespected me, as I wrote about education. You published something false, demonstrated that you are a coward. You have not had the guts or arguments to defend your religion. You've been a fool, because I proved that their religion has always been the most murderous, cruel and discriminating in all. Christians should be ashamed of liars and phonies like you in the ranks.
I repeat to you: your religion is to blame for the deplorable situation in Africa at all levels. You are a servant of the slavers, a mindless.

Formally asked the moderators to remove his false post, and I keep waiting for your apology, if you have at least some dignity.

salt 1:

Not a leap forward, but several leaps backward!
It is too late. You can't turn the hand of the clock. Go and thank the Christian God for sending missionaries that taught your teachers how to read and write who now taught you. Else you won't be here leaping anywhere. Thank them too for allowing your twin relatives to live. Just those 2 are enough. I won't mention reducing your language to an orthographic form

Thank Capitalism and the Industrial Revolution for that.. when you think of it, a lot of English-typing, clear-minded thinkers have the missionaries to thank for evolving beyond the bush we were used to

Ptolomeus:
African traditional religion has no devil, no Satan or Beelzebub.
Expresses regret his ignorance.
Satan only exists in Christian belief, Satan belongs to the Jewish-Christian creed, not African.

Heya!! What could be responsible for the killing of twins in Calabar?
Why do African religions permit the human sacrifice

Billyonaire: Imported Religion is by far better than those superstitious dogma's of we Africans. Killing of twins etc. Even in Igboland they still call some people "Outcasts". European religion comes with education of the mind. But African Religion breeds ignorance, fear, superstition and death.

Indicate where and what you worship murdered African twins!
The twins are considered a blessing in Yoruba culture.
Learn before you comment!

MacDaddy01:

lolololol.


The herbalist in my village doesnt kill witches or defrauds people with tithes like christians do in Nigeria.

gracias querido amigo!

lagerwhenindoubt:

Thank Capitalism and the Industrial Revolution for that.. when you think of it, a lot of English-typing, clear-minded thinkers have the missionaries to thank for evolving beyond the bush we were used to

There is no corellation btw industrial revolution and missionaries coming to teach africans. japan and china didnt need missionaries to teach them developmet. They decieded to develop by themselves. they developed their own way of writing and they still use it till today. next thing u will say we should thank them for teaching us english language.

Billyonaire: Young man, when you talk, always remember that your mind is on parade. You have successfully derailed a very handsome thread to buffer your condom thought system. If Ancestral Religion was so excellent, why did our Ancestors wish that we their offsprings dont live and think the way they did ? They welcomed the missionaries, donated plots of land for free so that churches be built and embraced reading and writing. The fact, that you are sitting there and typing on your computer is a result of that wise decision that your ancestors made, I believe if they didnt make that decision, by now you would have been worshiping the god of thunder in some distant forests, did I just say god of thunder ? Alas, there is no god of thunder. Foreign religion brought about education which thought me about magnetic clouds and thats what you would have been worshiping. Ignorance kills more than foreign religion.

My dear leave that clown...

He forgot that the advancement in education in the southern states, reflects the contribution of Christian missions to the Nigerian educational system.

Most teacher-training colleges are operated by missions or voluntary societies; their schools, however, are regulated and largely supported by the government...he knows all this but still prefers to cling to the past.

He's an abrasive fellow...he knows the truth but arrogance won't make him accept it.

EMANCIPATE YOUSELVES FROM MENTAL SALVERY, NONE BUT OURSELFS CAN FREE OUR MINDS....Marley

If christianity is from men, it shall die but if it's from God. It shall stand n d gates of hell shall not prevail. I av dis to say to Crazyman, u are an intelligent man. May God increase ur knowledge. Let every man search within his/her heart n choose him today whom he/she shall serve. It isn't enof being a xtian/muslim dis days. All we are holding up to is faith n hope. The world is in shambles n am astounded some peeps are still much buried in d past. D milk is split, yet my fellow africans are bemoaning d fate of their ancestors who are eida restin or wailing. I don't like blind arguments, it shows 1)how intelligent u really are. 2)how stupid u'd like to be. If i find anytin wrong wit my religion or d God i serve, there are no slave masters around to force me to continue. I take d next exit shaperly. We are in our comfy beds n surroundings, whereas someone somewhere is going tru unimaginable pain n he/she is asking if there is a God somewhere or mayhaps our planet earth is a big joke to him. Walahi d evil dt men do dis days, right dis minute d devil is plenty scared of mortals nowadays. There is dis yoruba proverb dt says 'if ur household/family death dosent kill you, d strange one wud definitely neva kill you'. Mayb we all shud look at slavery very well again n cast our stones at d proper 'first culprit' in dis case to me are our very own broda who capture us for sale to d white men, who is to blame d white men for being greedy to want more slave dn our brodas can safely steal. I find it ironic indeed dt a strange man who can't speak my language, who don't know d wild animals i abide with, who can't stay in my sun long without gettin burnt, who can't enjoy my moonlit nights witout fear of my mosquitoes, who don't know my land n terrain would capture me in a forest i grew up in n cart me away, without him aving some help, in dis case from my african brodas. Finally pls, d past is gone only to be remembered, we d future generation shud know better n make amends. I discriminate not, come in peace is all i ask. Thanks

Ptolomeus:

PLASTERMAN
Poorly educate sir:

I repeat to you: your religion is to blame for the deplorable situation in Africa at all levels. You are a servant of the slavers, a mindless.

Formally asked the moderators to remove his false post, and I keep waiting for your apology, if you have at least some dignity.

my guy free me u idiotic slowpoke. I asked what has the pictures got to do with the topic. You never answered but you are barking like a dog on battery

take away religion from the african,he is but a shell,who will he turn to to absolve his guilty coscience if not a priest in the confessional or the abolution before his prayer,abolution is symbolic with the cleansing and absolving himself from his action,truth is religion is the easiest way to cope the uncertainty of life and our mortality,christainty and islam have been successful because oeople cannot cope with the knowlegde that they are nothing special,we are born,we grow old and die,just like animals,just the circle of life,so most of us wait for the rapture or for the world to end,another thing is because it has a reward system,if i am more rightheous than mr x i will be rewarded in the afterlife or if i impose my belif on a kaffir or kill an infidel i will be rewarded.man has to belive in something bbe it our big father in the sky,stick and stones,science money,man has to bbelieve in anything except himself,on another hand the hebrews taught us empathy and islam taught the strenght of unity n our religions traditional emphasised commynity.i dont think nigerians can do away with islam or chritainty,its their only coping mechanism for a trumatic society,however everythn should be done in moderation

My dear people, the civilazation as we know it today started and or were spread by

Egyptians- Pagans
Romans---pagans
greece---pagans
mesopotemia and arabs--pagans.

in short paganism does not automatically translate to bushness

Welldone crazyman.much respect.

take away religion from the african,he is but a shell,who will he turn to to absolve his guilty conscience if not a priest in the confessional or the abolution before his prayer,abolution is symbolic with the cleansing and absolving himself from his action,truth is religion is the easiest way to cope the uncertainty of life and our mortality,christainty and islam have been successful because oeople cannot cope with the knowlegde that they are nothing special,we are born,we grow old and die,just like animals,just the circle of life,so most of us wait for the rapture or for the world to end,another thing is because it has a reward system,if i am more rightheous than mr x i will be rewarded in the afterlife or if i impose my belif on a kaffir or kill an infidel i will be rewarded.man has to belive in something bbe it our big father in the sky,stick ,stones,science, money.man has to believe in anything except himself,on another hand the hebrews taught us empathy and islam thought the strenght of unity n our religions traditional emphasised community.i dont think nigerians can do away with islam or chritainty,its their only coping mechanism for a traumatic society n our loss of culural identity,however everythn should be done in moderation

capricon:

There is no corellation btw industrial revolution and missionaries coming to teach africans. japan and china didnt need missionaries to teach them developmet. They decieded to develop by themselves. they developed their own way of writing and they still use it till today. next thing u will say we should thank them for teaching us english language.

Thanks for adding that. They are to be thanked for teaching you english. At least you have the language skills with which to insult them! Talk of biting the hands that fed you!

blasterman: my guy free me u idiotic slowpoke. I asked what has the pictures got to do with the topic. You never answered but you are barking like a dog on battery

Guy, leave this people alone.
They lack the ability to argue logically.
He doesn't even know the history behind those pictures.

blasterman: my guy free me u idiotic slowpoke. I asked what has the pictures got to do with the topic. You never answered but you are barking like a dog on battery

A typical Christian.
Ignore what he's talking, insults and no honor.

That also is the inheritance that you learned of the slavers.
You remain a slave, without honor and power of discernment.
Move on.
Your place is in the trees.

emmatok:

LOL, why the insults.

I thought you are arguing logically.
But you cannot tell the difference btw Jews religion and christianity.
That Paul massage was to the non-Jews(Romans,Corinthians, e.t.c.)
Go read you history the Jews where slaves to the Romans.
Are the Romans Christians?NO.

Epic fail.


Paul was a christian supporting slave trade and so, it didnt matter who he sent hos letters to. Or unless you're a racist that wants different rules for jews and romans

Billyonaire:

Young man, when you talk, always remember that your mind is on parade. You have successfully derailed a very handsome thread to buffer your condom thought system. If Ancestral Religion was so excellent, why did our Ancestors wish that we their offsprings dont live and think the way they did ? They welcomed the missionaries, donated plots of land for free so that churches be built and embraced reading and writing. The fact, that you are sitting there and typing on your computer is a result of that wise decision that your ancestors made, I believe if they didnt make that decision, by now you would have been worshiping the god of thunder in some distant forests, did I just say god of thunder ? Alas, there is no god of thunder. Foreign religion brought about education which thought me about magnetic clouds and thats what you would have been worshiping. Ignorance kills more than foreign religion.

I have already denunked your arguments

MacDaddy01:


There are secular charities as well. The first secondary school in nigeria was in the 19th century. Muslims were trading slaves since the 11th century in Africa and christians 16th century in West Africa. For centuries, schools were too good for slave monkey Nigerians.


Prophet Muhammad sold slaves as well. It is written clearly in the hadith

There is no punishment for slavery in the Quran. There is punishment for adultery. Shows the priorities of certain holy books

sorry about the typos.

ok ok ok....so we have all agreed that we neither need christianity nor ancestral religion to progress as human beings. Now thread closed

capricon: ok ok ok....so we have all agreed that we neither need christianity nor ancestral religion to progress as human beings. Now thread closed

Gbam! End of discussion!

MacDaddy01:

Epic fail.


Paul was a christian supporting slave trade and so, it didnt matter who he sent hos letters to. Or unless you're a racist that wants different rules for jews and romans

And do you know that the Jews were slaves to Romans at that time.
Were the Romans who conquered the world and took Slaves christians?NO
Slavery is purely business it has nothing to do with religion.
Keeping of slave during that period was never a crime.
Historicaly It is a privilege for slaves to serve kings.

emmatok:
Guy, leave this people alone.
They lack the ability to argue logically.
He doesn't even know the history behind those pictures.

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My cordial greetings.

emmatok:

And do you know that the Jews were slaves to Romans at that time.
Were the Romans who conquered the world and took Slaves christians?NO
Slavery is purely business it has nothing to do with religion.
Keeping of slave during that period was never a crime.
Historicaly It is a privilege for slaves to serve kings.

You are just rambling!

Even Yaweh in the old testament says that Jews should take slaves from other nations but not among jews. Religion is part of slave trade. Take it or leave it.

capricon: ok ok ok....so we have all agreed that we neither need christianity nor ancestral religion to progress as human beings. Now thread closed

Nobody said it needed one thing or another.
Every human being is free to select.
Now, when an illiterate Christian assaults without information, there is a right to explain that all the ills of Africa are not due to traditional religion, but to the acculturation, sense of inferiority, mental slavery and taught the conquerors.

MacDaddy01:


You are just rambling!

Even Yaweh in the old testament says that Jews should take slaves from other nations but not among jews. Religion is part of slave trade. Take it or leave it.

Do the Indians,Japanese, Chinese practice slave trades ? Yes.
Are they Christians or Muslims?No.
Every race practice slavery.
We have history of slavery among the Yorubas, Igbos e.t.c
Slavery was not a crime during that period.

emmatok:

Do the Indians,Japanese, Chinese practice slave trades ? Yes.
Are they Christians or Muslims?No.
Every race practice slavery.
We have history of slavery among the Yorubas, Igbos e.t.c
Slavery was not a crime during that period.

Arabs and Christians did not practiced slavery?
Apparently you came from another planet.

Billyonaire: Imported Religion is by far better than those superstitious dogma's of we Africans. Killing of twins etc. Even in Igboland they still call some people "Outcasts". European religion comes with education of the mind. But African Religion breeds ignorance, fear, superstition and death.

You're talking absolute RUBBISH.

Christian nations today ARE THE BIGGEST MASS MURDERERS AND ECONOMIC BANDITS ON EARTH. Such ''education of the mind'' to slaughter 2 million Iraqis and claim, like George Bush did, that ''the Lord'' asked him to do it. Hitler, killer of 6 million innocents, was FETED and even WORSHIPPED by Christian bishops:




Now the same Christians, Jews and Muslims are about to plunge us all into WORLD WAR III and possible PLANETARY SUICIDE due to their wickedness, greed, hatred, rivalry, and godless arrogance.

YEAH... SOME ''EDUCATION OF THE MIND''.

Today, the heaviest nuclear-armed and most dangerous nations on earth are christian nations, openly boasting of possessing enough nukes to destroy the world several hundred times over! HOW DARE YOU compare such epic, monstrous barbarism to a few villagers sacrificing a virgin in ancient times? Or a few queer practices limited to one or two localities and epochs, yet overblown by colonial invaders to soothe their thieving conscience??

African religion is the world's OLDEST religion. In fact Africans invented religion.

How has the teacher become student?