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Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by stepo707: 10:52am On Oct 04, 2012
codernoni :
There is a reason 'thou shalt not lie' is not in the ten commandments.

cheesy cheesy

Abraham indeed married his niece Sarai.Offcourse when it comes to a situation where you have to save your life,you are permitted to lie.

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Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Whobedatte(m): 10:53am On Oct 04, 2012
Not all lies is sin. It means U are as wise as the dove as the bible portrayed. I once needed few hours to write a part time exam in my place of work, i know my production manager won't allow me since i was knew in the company, and learnt they dont allow pple run programmes there. I told him my father who died many years back have just been hit by a molue bus. Immediately he signed my gate pass, and went 4 the exam. She dat one na lie
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by zoedicus: 10:55am On Oct 04, 2012
Okija_juju: @ TOPIC: Its Okay for a christian to Lie, kill, steal, backbite and commit any type of sin to get out of a tight situation or achieve a goal..As long as he/she remembers to take a blood of Jesus Shower after commiting said sin!!

1st John 1:9
New International Version (©1984)

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.


Okija_juju: @ TOPIC: [color=#005500]Its Okay for a christian to Lie, kill, steal, backbite and commit any type of sin to get out of a tight situation or achieve a goal..As long as he/she remembers to take a blood of Jesus Shower after commiting said sin!!

1st John 1:9
New International Version (©1984)

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.


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Okija_juju: @ TOPIC: Its Okay for a christian to Lie, kill, steal, backbite and commit any type of sin to get out of a tight situation or achieve a goal..As long as he/she remembers to take a blood of Jesus Shower after commiting said sin!!

1st John 1:9
New International Version (©1984)

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.


that wz crass.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by ANYPEN(m): 10:57am On Oct 04, 2012
I READ ABOUT WISDOM IN AN ARTICLE ON www.wise-ticket.com AND WITH THAT I NEEDED NO MORE QUESTIONS ON WHAT WISDOM IS.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by destinedtee(m): 10:57am On Oct 04, 2012
afam4eva: People just want the bible yo be re-written to justify the kind of despicable life that they live. If Christianity no do you, go someplace else. Abi na by force?
Sir,this response of yours is 'somehow' o.i think we have d same opinion about the issue but try to make your view clearer and more explicit next time sir. i personally believe as a genuine believer,one should be truthful at all times.Thanks sir.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Psylas(m): 10:58am On Oct 04, 2012
Callotti:


Starting with that your "ashawo". . . mother of Jesus.
. . .and your dane God whos 'blokos' cannot stand without using the AUSPY-SUSPY. . .HOLY GOASSSST BLOKOS! cheesy

Did you 'stoopid' God not lie to you, by putting the 'forbidden' fruit in your lame azzzze? cheesy

No wonder you can't find peace on or off the cyber airways.

Enjoy your curse!

Hail da Harlloti! cool
sorry!
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Nobody: 10:59am On Oct 04, 2012
Yes it is wisdom... Most people lack deep knowledge of christianity they jst talk out of intelligence nt wisdom.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Nobody: 11:00am On Oct 04, 2012
It is not knowledgeable for a Christian to lie if they are lying for Jesus. Rather they should just educate themselves more on the topic, both from the Bible and knowledgeable resources. Why putting Jesus’ name into a lie which is not what it's supposed to be? As usual they will find that the Bible remains a book of truth.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by ChideraFavour(m): 11:01am On Oct 04, 2012
Lie is a lie n hv d same amount of punishment bt there are some situation dt needs lie b/4 u can pass 2ru dem just lik dt of Abraham own n so many host of odas.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by destinedtee(m): 11:01am On Oct 04, 2012
Whobedatte: Not all lies is sin. It means U are as wise as the dove as the bible portrayed. I once needed few hours to write a part time exam in my place of work, i know my production manager won't allow me since i was knew in the company, and learnt they dont allow pple run programmes there. I told him my father who died many years back have just been hit by a molue bus. Immediately he signed my gate pass, and went 4 the exam. She dat one na lie
Is it also the truth? wink
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by mrperfect(m): 11:10am On Oct 04, 2012
Not good but appearing.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by destinedtee(m): 11:11am On Oct 04, 2012
Sagytarius:
I'm confused here, OP. Well I'll blame myself because it's been long enough since I last read the bible (May God forgive me). Buh, did u actually mean that Sarah was Abrahams blood sister? And they straffed to bear Isaac? Isnt that abomination? or am I missing something here?
Read Genesis 20:12 sir. They were of the same father but different mother.It was accepted in those days to marry your relatives but its not the same again.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Nobody: 11:12am On Oct 04, 2012
Omo Alata: When my son was younger (he's now 3), I often lied to him that there was a monster outside that would get him if he went outside (he always wanted to play outside) so am I now condemned to hell? shocked

I didn't do it in a malicious way, just to protect him from kidnappers.


You were kind of being truthful.
Kidnappers aren't angels.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by destinedtee(m): 11:14am On Oct 04, 2012
frosbel: John 8:44
New International Version (NIV)
You belong to your father, the devil, .. not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


Proverbs 29:5
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
A man who flatters his neighbor Is spreading a net for his steps.
So what is your view sir?You are not explicit enough. smiley
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Cruzgee: 11:14am On Oct 04, 2012
Read the account of a survivour of the Mubi killings; he said the beasts entered the hostels of students and were demanding that they deny Christianity and they were killed immediately. Even at that, will those children still make heaven? I mean the ones that are truely born-again.
Also, am sure some of them would have told them they were muslims just to escape death but were still killed probably because of their looks and their mother-tonuge reflecting in their statements.
The bottom line is that may God have mercy on us and help us to say the truth come what may.
May the souls of the departed rest in peace IJN
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by cold(m): 11:15am On Oct 04, 2012
You can lie as much as you want & go seek forgiveness..as usual. Isn't that what Christianity is all about? An endless cycle of lies forgiveness?
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by djkaneo(m): 11:22am On Oct 04, 2012
A lie is an abomination unto the Lord and an ever present help in time of trouble......chikena!!!
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Nobody: 11:24am On Oct 04, 2012
It funny how christians try to justify themselves in sin.
You are really just encouraging pple to mock and criticise u the more.

Was it ever recorded in the bible that Jesus whom u are meant to emulate lied?
And a lie is a lie whether small or big one.
I thought u should always represent truth.

And besides, can't the holy spirit get u out of the situation without being deceptive which is clearly stated many times in the bible as being of the devil?
Wouldn't that be defined as wisdom not cowardice?
Or is he just for speaking in tongues?
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by godimento: 11:29am On Oct 04, 2012
It's obvious some of us had never tested Salvation. We classified ourselves as Christians cos we appear in church on Sunday & weekly activities. Christianity is a revelation. The Bible said, He that born of God cannot sin cos there's seed of righteousness in him/her. A child of God can't be struggle what to say in difficult time cos he/she is bold as lion. Luke 21;15. For I will give you a mouth & wisdom, which all your adversary shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. So if you are still struggle with lies, Pls seek the face of God Redemption.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by aryzgreat: 11:30am On Oct 04, 2012
Not all lies are sin, some lies are necessary atimes, imagine some assasins entered ur house asking after ur fada or husband, meanwhile ur fada or husband was relieving himself in the toilet and u sensing danger told the assasins he travelled and they left without wasting blood. wot do u call this scenario? its a necessary lie and not a sin!
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Image123(m): 11:43am On Oct 04, 2012
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Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by destinedtee(m): 11:43am On Oct 04, 2012
dplus:

Imagine your boss telling you to tell all his visitors he is not around while he is the office ? Will you go ahead to tell the truth ?

So critically at some point in life u have to lie to cover up the truth but it should not be an habit or ways of life.

The 100% truth is that everybody lie so why? i think this will lead to the answer to your post
Hmmmn? embarasseda dicey situation it is but God will always help those that are committed to Him.By the way,your boss should have discovered your personality before that time and if not just let him/her know.It is not about us but God.Its so deep sir/ma but ones job is quite insignificant compared to missing the Kingdom.Thanks.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Nobody: 11:44am On Oct 04, 2012
Omo Alata:

false witness - a person who deliberately gives false testimony
perjurer
liar, prevaricator - a person who has lied or who lies repeatedly

I also think liars in some part of scripture refers to people like atheists, unbeleivers, pagans & others who do not believe or refused to acknowledge the existence of God. They are all liars in the sense that there are infallible proofs for the existence of God, yet, they lie that He doesn't exist or He is not the creator of the universe!

It's not all about being dishonest or tricky; though morally wrong, but I think mostly the bible always refers to people who deny God as liars! That's my opinion. Revelation 17:1-13
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by destinedtee(m): 11:54am On Oct 04, 2012
inurmind: It funny how christians try to justify themselves in sin.
You are really just encouraging pple to mock and criticise u the more.

Was it ever recorded in the bible that Jesus whom u are meant to emulate lied?
And a lie is a lie whether small or big one.
I thought u should always represent truth.

And besides, can't the holy spirit get u out of the situation without being deceptive which is clearly stated many times in the bible as being of the devil?
Wouldn't that be defined as wisdom not cowardice?
Or is he just for speaking in tongues?
Thanks.I agree with you.The Holy Spirit is much more than tongues.He can get us out of all 'situations' and if He chooses not to(u remember the three hebrew men before the fiery furnace?),It is all about God and not ourselves.
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by ceejay80s(m): 11:58am On Oct 04, 2012
@ OP, i know u are a muslim, thats why u choose to intimidate christians, muslims no dey lie?
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by destinedtee(m): 12:04pm On Oct 04, 2012
ceejay80s: @ OP, i know u are a muslim, thats why u choose to intimidate christians, muslims no dey lie?

I am glad to let you know i am a Christian and i stand for the truth sir.What will i gain from intimidating other fellow Christians? embarassed Besides,i am willing to learn from fellow Christians.One could learn some positive things on NL i believe.Thanks

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Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by bid4rich(m): 12:05pm On Oct 04, 2012
Lets us not deceive ourselves All lies are lies, there is nothing like white lies or white patching. Devil always want us to lie to get God angry at us; but we ALL must stick and say the truth to make the devil ashame and God take the glory. Thats my take
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by bid4rich(m): 12:08pm On Oct 04, 2012
stepo707:

cheesy cheesy

Abraham indeed married his niece Sarai.Offcourse when it comes to a situation where you have to save your life,you are permitted to lie.

Jesus says those who lose their life for the sake of His (the truth) shall have it. Because He says 'I am the Way, the Truth and the Life' What will you say concerning that?
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Holyrule(m): 12:10pm On Oct 04, 2012
Callotti: Heck yeah! For entertainment and for self-preservation. . .or to save others or SELF from harm or discomfort. cool

When you are dealing with Nigerian 'Busy Bodies' especially on the cyber airways of course!

Mu che che che che che che

Especially to those 'Mgbekes' and 'Mgbafors' looking to compete for h-internet blokoses and totos! grin

Mu he he he he he

People who like to move around like 'malus'. . . without brains of their own. . .JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT!


Ah-Ha! cheesy
Very entertaining. . .I tellya! cheesy

BOTTOM LINE. . .BE HONEST TO ONLY THOSE THAT ARE WORTH IT. . . .!

Even the so-called GOD deceived Esau in the so-called bible by conniving with Jacob to steal his birth-right.
Or should we mention the concept of the original sin. . .aka the 'forbidden fruit' in the so-called 'beautiful garden of Eden'?

God does not lie and has never lied. Many of us confuse the scripture because we only choose to understand it carnally, but when you eat of the fruit that day you shall die, the death there signifies spiritual death ok. Stop deceiving yourself by quoting the Bible literally.

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Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Nobody: 12:20pm On Oct 04, 2012
Holyrule:
God does not lie and has never lied. Many of us confuse the scripture because we only choose to understand it carnally, but when you eat of the fruit that day you shall die, the death there signifies spiritual death ok. Stop deceiving yourself by quoting the Bible literally.

Don't mind the heathen, she's an atheist; all they look for are loopholes in the bible to criticise!
Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by slimphemmie(f): 12:21pm On Oct 04, 2012
not every lie can be regarded as a sin because the motive is also important.

example:
you have a mum whom you know is hypertensive and you are having problems at work. she calls you and says 'my son, hope all is well at work'? and you reply 'everything is fine ma'

i dont believe this example can be construed as a sin though it is a lie cos its definitely not the truth

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Re: Is It Wisdom For Christians To Lie In Some Situations? by Adanyebe(m): 12:23pm On Oct 04, 2012
how about if you lied to save a soul (souls).... ask ursef

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