destinedtee: Morally speaking, it is wrong to lie and the Scriptures also does not mince words about the destination of liars.

But i have noticed that sometimes Christians lie and they justify themselves by saying they are only applying wisdom. Some will probably refer to the case of Abraham when he lied about his wife Sarah that she was just his sister(Sarah was actually his sister but he hid the truth that she was also his wife).

This is usually done by believers to salvage themselves in some 'tight' circumstances. Some believe lie is still lie and is therefore a sin and some believe it is wisdom in some situation and so is not a sin in those instances.What is your take on this?

Okija_juju: @ TOPIC: Its Okay for a christian to Lie, kill, steal, backbite and commit any type of sin to get out of a tight situation or achieve a goal..As long as he/she remembers to take a blood of Jesus Shower after commiting said sin!!

1st John 1:9
New International Version (©1984)

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

seriallink:

Don't mind the heathen, she's an atheist; all they look for are loopholes in the bible to criticise!

Psylas: sorry!

musKeeto:
Isn't it amazing that humans can find loopholes in the word of God?

No mean feat, you'd agreeee...

seriallink:

You do not have the spiritual wisdom to grasps what is written in the Bible; I called it hoopholes because I know that's what you guys call it! It only takes spiritual wisdom to understand the word of God, which I doubt you've got! You can't decipher the bible with your so called logic, it's all spiritual not some direct interpretation thingy! You really need help mehn~

afam4eva: @Okija_juju
What religion are you?

Okija_juju:

Lol... None.. Just a religous scholar!

afam4eva:
So, where do your Children go? Church, Mosque etc...btw, were you born a Christian and changed later?

Okija_juju:

My kids!! They go to church.. They are not my biological kids though!! But I call them that anyways!! When I birth my own kids, they will also go to church.. Reason being that I think religion is important in the upbringing of a child.. It gives them sort of a higher purpose to pursue morality.. However, I will not f[u]ck up their minds with it.. I was born into a christian home to christian parents, My father later became a Pastor, Lived through many Sunday, Tuesdays and Thursday sermons, morning devotions, Night Vigils and House fellowships.. Became a born Again Christian at the age of 14, got baptised same year, carried, studied and preached the bible for over 4 years.. Backslided and just coasted along for a bit Stopped believing over 12 years ago!!

Gracious10:

Okija-juju!! Ifea adiro nma! Go back to God.

musKeeto:
Just like that?

Holyrule:
God does not lie and has never lied. Many of us confuse the scripture because we only choose to understand it carnally, but when you eat of the fruit that day you shall die, the death there signifies spiritual death ok. Stop deceiving yourself by quoting the Bible literally.

Billyonaire: I do not recognize 'Lie' as a sin.

ceejay80s: @ OP, i know u are a muslim, thats why u choose to intimidate christians, muslims no dey lie?

Image123:
she calls herself so, i don't admire her history.

Callotti:

Don't go and 'admire' your own life. . .
Make you own history. . .if any barry fit prize your own azzze on or off the cyber!
Abi you wanno phock "GOD"?
Awon 'blow-job-for-christ'!

anonimi:

Is hiding the truth not lie
Apart from Abraham there are many more leading Bible figures who lied when in "tight" or not so tight circumstances:

* Jacob, who became Israel, lied to his father by pretending to be his brother Esau.
* David lied by pretending to be a mad man to save his life.
* Peter lied about knbowing Jesus to save himself from embarrasment

Etc etc.

mumumugu: Not all ies are sin. Some are permited

Lies are sins as christians say. Agreed.
But how come God BLESSED the mid wifes in exodus for lying to pharoah about why they couldn't kill the baby boys?

Couldn't God have found another way to save them?
And they were killed at the end anyway.

An assassin wants to kill your father and you know his mission, he then asks you where your father is Knowing you to be a "truthful" person he'll believe anything you tell him.

Imagine your boss telling you to tell all his visitors he is not around while he is the office ? Will you go ahead to tell the truth ?

So critically at some point in life u have to lie to cover up the truth but it should not be an habit or ways of life.

Not all lies is sin. It means U are as wise as the dove as the bible portrayed. I once needed few hours to write a part time exam in my place of work, i know my production manager won't allow me since i was knew in the company, and learnt they dont allow pple run programmes there. I told him my father who died many years back have just been hit by a molue bus. Immediately he signed my gate pass, and went 4 the exam. She dat one na lie

you have a mum whom you know is hypertensive and you are having problems at work. she calls you and says 'my son, hope all is well at work'? and you reply 'everything is fine ma'

i dont believe this example can be construed as a sin though it is a lie cos its definitely not the truth

how about if you lied to save a soul (souls).... ask ursef

Apart from Abraham there are many more leading Bible figures who lied when in "tight" or not so tight circumstances:

* Jacob, who became Israel, lied to his father by pretending to be his brother Esau.
* David lied by pretending to be a mad man to save his life.
* Peter lied about knbowing Jesus to save himself from embarrasment

Etc etc.

My kids!! They go to church.. They are not my biological kids though!! But I call them that anyways!! When I birth my own kids, they will also go to church.. Reason being that I think religion is important in the upbringing of a child.. It gives them sort of a higher purpose to pursue morality.. However, I will not f[u]ck up their minds with it.. I was born into a christian home to christian parents, My father later became a Pastor, Lived through many Sunday, Tuesdays and Thursday sermons, morning devotions, Night Vigils and House fellowships.. Became a born Again Christian at the age of 14, got baptised same year, carried, studied and preached the bible for over 4 years.. Backslided and just coasted along for a bit Stopped believing over 12 years ago!!

It's a question that I have always wondered and asked myself. Look at Rahab who lied when her towns people came to her house demanding the whereabouts of the spies. And she never told them that she had hidden them.

Image123:
calot, i do not admire your history, dream on that.

Image123: Just adding,

God did not bless them for lying, here is the passage.
Exo 1:17 But the midwives feared God, and did not as the king of Egypt commanded them, but saved the men children alive.
Exo 1:18 And the king of Egypt called for the midwives, and said unto them, Why have ye done this thing, and have saved the men children alive?
Exo 1:19 And the midwives said unto Pharaoh, Because the Hebrew women are not as the Egyptian women; for they are lively, and are delivered ere the midwives come in unto them.
Exo 1:20 Therefore God dealt well with the midwives: and the people multiplied, and waxed very mighty.
Exo 1:21 And it came to pass, because the midwives feared God, that he made them houses.
Exo 1:22 And Pharaoh charged all his people, saying, Every son that is born ye shall cast into the river, and every daughter ye shall save alive.
The Bible says God blessed them because they feared God. Now secondly, it is very possible that the Hebrew women were not as the Egyptian women, but lively. But importantly though, God blessed them because they had the fear of God. the Bible says that the fear of God is to hate evil, it is the beginning of wisdom, and it prolongs days.