pastormustwacc:

It is also very noticeable that most people on this thread that know so much about illuminati are scared to post for good reasons too. I used to fall into that category, until of recent due to some life-changing experiences.

Are you for real? They are afraid? Yet they can shout all the rubbish they've been posting? O men if they are afraid I wonder what they'd say when they are not.

What life changing experience? Illuminati have started threatening you?

pimp_lucious :


I be illuminati representaive naija chapter.

i see. how come u are not as popular as the so called members

Lord_Reed:

Are you for real? They are afraid? Yet they can shout all the rubbish they've been posting? O men if they are afraid I wonder what they'd say when they are not.

What life changing experience? Illuminati have started threatening you?

My post was not meant to be translated literarily - i was only giving my psychic evaluation (i did not read the responses to come to my conclusion). So those posting rubbish as you say does not affect my judgement, because i rely on higher powers to make such judgements - irrespective of what you think/believe.

Red-Light:


i see. how come u are not as popular as the so called members

An illuminati dish-washer most likely. Or shoe-shinner mayhaps.

pastormustwacc:
My post was not meant to be translated literarily - i was only giving my psychic evaluation (i did not read the responses to come to my conclusion). So those posting rubbish as you say does not affect my judgement, because i rely on higher powers to make such judgements - irrespective of what you think/believe.

So the higher powers told you or revealed to you a specific "world-dominating" organisation called Illuminati?

And please do share the life changing experience.

Lord_Reed:

So the higher powers told you or revealed to you a specific "world-dominating" organisation called Illuminati?

And please do share the life changing experience.

My life-changing experience was discussed on this board much earlier, but not related to illuminati.

I have physical evidence of the existence of illuminati, but i will have to throw away my life first to reveal that evidence, i dont believe it is worth it.

pastormustwacc:
My life-changing experience was discussed on this board much earlier, but not related to illuminati.

Can you post the link? Thanks.

pastormustwacc:
I have physical evidence of the existence of illuminati, but i will have to throw away my life first to reveal that evidence, i dont believe it is worth it.

Hmmmm....

Lord_Reed:

You are just rambling half truths and jumbled up conspiracy theories. If you even did half a decent research as you claim to have you won't be saying the fables you are spewing here.

thank God u even knw dere were truths...even though u foolishly called dem half,let me tel u...if u tink illuminati broke off from catholic...ure on d long thing,,,knwin some few tins abt illuminati doesnt mean ure done,,,dere ar sumtins dat u cant knw until u join dem...even afta joining dem,dey av stages where u'll reach b4 knwin sum certain tins,frm ur posts..i c u knw notin atall about dis damn pple,,if u wish to knw dem..u have to trace back d story of creation,,nd thread it down from then till d present now,,den u will knw most of deir modus operandi,,,,deyre cunny nd deluding just like satan,well..deyre his physical agents,,,.....nd one more thing....I AM NOT SPEWING FABLES ,,,DICKBRAIN .,,,go read d history of ancient europe...wen magic is a practice in d western europe(england and co),,and wen barbarism and gladiation is also a practice in d eastern europe(rome and co),,,den wen d christian crusader defeated d roman empire...creating a dawn of d holy roman empire,dat is wen all dat practice was abolished,,nd dey reach out to d western europe...nd dem too condemned d practice of magic,thus,d two parts bcome united nd reach out to other worlds,,dat is wen how began colonizing other parts of d world...starting from america,meanwhile,b4 ,wen and afta all dat took place...dere are darkenesses present in dem,cloaking demselfs as lights...waitin for d right time to strike out,,nd it has been done from den . Dere ar secret societies present den...nd deyre also among christian crusaders..so u c wat i mean,,in every good...dere is evil . D movie MERLIN,it was carved out from d legend of king Arthur,dats y d name Arthur was in d characters.......let me ask u,,,did u knw d true legend of Arthur ?....if u do,,,den u'll get d full insight of all wat am saying all dis while .

^^^You are absolutely correct, however, many people just take all these things as super-story. That is the part that bothers me.

jehovahnoni: thank God u even knw dere were truths...even though u foolishly called dem half,let me tel u...if u tink illuminati broke off from catholic...ure on d long thing,,,knwin some few tins abt illuminati doesnt mean ure done,,,dere ar sumtins dat u cant knw until u join dem...even afta joining dem,dey av stages where u'll reach b4 knwin sum certain tins,frm ur posts..i c u knw notin atall about dis damn pple,,if u wish to knw dem..u have to trace back d story of creation,,nd thread it down from then till d present now,,den u will knw most of deir modus operandi,,,,deyre cunny nd deluding just like satan,well..deyre his physical agents,,,.....nd one more thing....I AM NOT SPEWING FABLES ,,,DICKBRAIN .,,,go read d history of ancient europe...wen magic is a practice in d western europe(england and co),,and wen barbarism and gladiation is also a practice in d eastern europe(rome and co),,,den wen d christian crusader defeated d roman empire...creating a dawn of d holy roman empire,dat is wen all dat practice was abolished,,nd dey reach out to d western europe...nd dem too condemned d practice of magic,thus,d two parts bcome united nd reach out to other worlds,,dat is wen how began colonizing other parts of d world...starting from america,meanwhile,b4 ,wen and afta all dat took place...dere are darkenesses present in dem,cloaking demselfs as lights...waitin for d right time to strike out,,nd it has been done from den . Dere ar secret societies present den...nd deyre also among christian crusaders..so u c wat i mean,,in every good...dere is evil . D movie MERLIN,it was carved out from d legend of king Arthur,dats y d name Arthur was in d characters.......let me ask u,,,did u knw d true legend of Arthur ?....if u do,,,den u'll get d full insight of all wat am saying all dis while .

You are still rambling half truths my friend.

1. The Holy Roman Empire was not formed by Christian crusaders as you put it here. Go and read proper history instead of all those controversies you like.

2. There was nothing called Illuminati till the 18th century so stop tying ancient history to something that has its begin in recent history.

3. The legend of King Arthur has nothing to do with Illuminati or secret societies. It was merely as result of the process of legend formation brought about by real events.

You have no full insight, all you have is whack interpretation of history and legends to give birth to ridiculous conspiracy theories. Do yourself some good at quit bandying about these fables of yours.

@pastormustwacc
So you believe all these fun re-telling of known history? ℓ☺ℓ Wow you both must subscribe to the Crackpots History Channel.

The illuminati were not always called the illuminati, they had another name. What this jehovahnoni posted contained lots of facts related to the illuminati as i know it. Like i explained earlier in my post, it is better to do your search yourself than to piss on other people's "claims".

pastormustwacc: The illuminati were not always called the illuminati, they had another name. What this jehovahnoni posted contained lots of facts related to the illuminati as i know it. Like i explained earlier in my post, it is better to do your search yourself than to piss on other people's "claims".

I will "piss" on any retelling of history that does not introduce new facts or evidence. jehovahnoni presented no new fact or evidence, you on the other hand have played the "my life is on the line card" so I won't ask you again until you feel you can share but any crackpot that tells fables disguised as "history" should be ready to defend his position.

If you say secret societies have existed from the dawn of history that is not going to be argued, it is a well documented fact. If you want to tie Illuminati to the ancient past or present day even then bring evidence or shut up.

@Coogar, @Charloski and @Choclay8ee, you guys are like the 3 wise men of the bible,because your posts are well researched and correspond with certain things I have been taught from the Book of Revelations.

@lord-reed, Sir,the information that you gave out about illuminati starting in the 19th century is very wrong.it started in 1776(the 18th century)

neophyte007: @lord-reed, Sir,the information that you gave out about illuminati starting in the 19th century is very wrong.it started in 1776(the 18th century)

I stand corrected, permit me to correct my initial post.

@lord-reed mr jehovahnoni is very correct when he linked the legend of king arthur to the illuminati,why do you label him a crackpot? as a former member of the grail message (church connected to arthurian legend) i will break it down for you.

neophyte007: @lord-reed mr jehovahnoni is very correct when he linked the legend of king arthur to the illuminati,why do you label him a crackpot? as a former member of the grail message (church connected to arthurian legend) i will break it down for you.

Go ahead and present your evidence.

Lord_Reed:

I will "piss" on any retelling of history that does not introduce new facts or evidence. jehovahnoni presented no new fact or evidence, you on the other hand have played the "my life is on the line card" so I won't ask you again until you feel you can share but any crackpot that tells fables disguised as "history" should be ready to defend his position.

If you say secret societies have existed from the dawn of history that is not going to be argued, it is a well documented fact. If you want to tie Illuminati to the ancient past or present day even then bring evidence or shut up.

If the 5 armed policemen that stopped me a few days ago in lagos were not able to intimidate me, then you aint got a chance.

As for what to post or not, i dont give a flyin f/u/c/k about you or what you say, and you are in no position to tell anyone to shut up. If you seek for evidence, i sincerely pray to God that you will find the evidence you so-seek out for yourself, and i hope when you do, you will present the evidence to the whole world to see.

@lord-reed according to Didot-Perceval around the year 1225,there were 13 Knights of King Arthur's Round Table,just as there are 13 degrees in the illuminati.

Arthur's men were knights and 4th degree of illuminati is Freemason knight,8th degree is Kadosh knight,13th degree is king men like Arthur and Guinevere's father while 12th degree is magician philosopher which alludes to Merlin, @mr jehovahnoni,thank you for helping me solve this great connection.

7th degree is sovereign prince of rose cross,which looks like a sword in a flower and this reminds me of the sword that was removed from a stone with such ease,it was as though arthur pulled it from a flower.

5th degree is apprentice companion,and this alludes to the squires who escort the knight and carry his helmet.

Lord_Reed:

You are still rambling half truths my friend.

1. The Holy Roman Empire was not formed by Christian crusaders as you put it here. Go and read proper history instead of all those controversies you like.

2. There was nothing called Illuminati till the 18th century so stop tying ancient history to something that has its begin in recent history.

3. The legend of King Arthur has nothing to do with Illuminati or secret societies. It was merely as result of the process of legend formation brought about by real events.

You have no full insight, all you have is whack interpretation of history and legends to give birth to ridiculous conspiracy theories. Do yourself some good at quit bandying about these fables of yours.

@pastormustwacc
So you believe all these fun re-telling of known history? ℓ☺ℓ Wow you both must subscribe to the Crackpots History Channel.

now i c dat ure a deluded intellect lacking buffon,i hate pple like dis....dey will c truth and yet castigate it,,,,if im rambling half truths....ramble urs and lets c,its now obvious dat ure a roadside poster....for u to say christian crusaders didnt form d holy roman empire...den who did...YOU ?!,or your father?,,,,,,,who defeat d roman empire.....was it not after d defeat dat a new era of holy roman empire.......nd dey began havin popes as a ruler of rome....instead of emperors,,,,get ur facts right b4 posting delusioned trash........NEW WORLD IDIOT

pastormustwacc:
If the 5 armed policemen that stopped me a few days ago in lagos were not able to intimidate me, then you aint got a chance.

As for what to post or not, i dont give a flyin f/u/c/k about you or what you say, and you are in no position to tell anyone to shut up. If you seek for evidence, i sincerely pray to God that you will find the evidence you so-seek out for yourself, and i hope when you do, you will present the evidence to the whole world to see.

This my friend is a public forum. Anyone who brings claims out into the open should expect to be challenged, it is not question of intimidation. "Shut up" is merely to say desist from unsubstantiated claims and is not meant to intimidate. And it is not as if one could anyway so I don't know why you feel that way. You've already played your "my life is in danger" card so I'm no longer referencing you.

As for God showing me evidence, I quite look forward to it and indeed if He does I will tell the world.

neophyte007: 7th degree is sovereign prince of rose cross,which looks like a sword in a flower and this reminds me of the sword that was removed from a stone with such ease,it was as though arthur pulled it from a flower.

In all the versions of the legend of Arthur I have not come across him taking the sword from a flower. I have read of him taking the sword from a stone (a tradition the British Monarchs still follow), taking it from the lady of the lake or from his half sister Lady Morgana le Fey.

neophyte007: @Coogar, @Charloski and @Choclay8ee, you guys are like the 3 wise men of the bible,because your posts are well researched and correspond with certain things I have been taught from the Book of Revelations.

i appreciate.....
the thing about people like lord-reed is their lack of knowledge.....people that are not knowledgeable are supposed to be quiet - they are supposed to listen and learn not discarding what the eggheads are telling them! illuminati can be traced back as far as 2134(before christ) from their canaanite roots to rome......i don't wanna say much about this ish - but this chosen few of enlightened folks operate at a higher level bigger than kanye/jay-z!

Lord_Reed:

This my friend is a public forum. Anyone who brings claims out into the open should expect to be challenged, it is not question of intimidation. "Shut up" is merely to say desist from unsubstantiated claims and is not meant to intimidate. And it is not as if one could anyway so I don't know why you feel that way. You've already played your "my life is in danger" card so I'm no longer referencing you.

As for God showing me evidence, I quite look forward to it and indeed if He does I will tell the world.

I wish you the best in your quest for truth, no offense taken. Now let us continue enjoying the thread.

coogar:

i appreciate.....
the thing about people like lord-reed is their lack of knowledge.....people that are not knowledgeable are supposed to be quiet - they are supposed to listen and learn not discarding what the eggheads are telling them! illuminati can be traced back as far as 2134(before christ) from their canaanite roots to rome......i don't wanna say much about this ish - but this chosen few of enlightened folks operate at a higher level bigger than kanye/jay-z!

Lack of knowledge you are not going to remedy by way of proof so what good is your knowledge? I never made the claim to any special knowledge, you did! Prove it now becomes a story, who is fooling who?

Very simple, prove that Illuminati is the World-dominating organisation you say it is, until you do it is simply a conspiracy theory.

Lord_Reed:
Lack of knowledge you are not going to remedy by way of proof so what good is your knowledge? I never made the claim to any special knowledge, you did! Prove it now becomes a story, who is fooling who?

you need me to do your own job for you, better hire a dog!
go on the internet or any good library and read voraciously.....you are ignorant - you don't even know what works......i have mentioned few names of the members of illuminati, i have told you the hierarchy, the history, etc.....yet, you want me to supply the video evidence and spoon feed you?

Very simple, prove that Illuminati is the World-dominating organisation you say it is, until you do it is simply a conspiracy theory.

check the profile of the names i have mentioned and tell me they are not dominating - the name illuminati(the enlightened ones) is enough proof these lots are carefully chosen - monarchs, rulers, world politicians, etc make up the numbers......you are arguing against logic to tap from my resources(i ain't buying that crap from you) - go and do your own research and come back here!

^^^And also read up on history and articles and news going on all over the world. Did all you can about George bush lineage, the rothschilds and others. Trace things as far back as you can. Ask your grandpa of some facts if he is still alive. Dont just sit there and criticize without proving that all we saw is false.

You simply find it hard to believe, and so discredit it.

pastormustwacc: ^^^And also read up on history and articles and news going on all over the world. Did all you can about George bush lineage, the rothschilds and others. Trace things as far back as you can. Ask your grandpa of some facts if he is still alive. Dont just sit there and criticize without proving that all we saw is false.

You simply find it hard to believe, and so discredit it.

lord_reed is not intelligent.....
in his shoes, i would take each of the names mentioned here and do extensive research on those names, the lineage, the connection, etc before coming out to criticise. how can you not know something and you argue against people who know? only nigerians reason this way........when you don't know - you shut up and listen!

jehovahnoni: thank God u even knw dere were truths...even though u foolishly called dem half,let me tel u...if u tink illuminati broke off from catholic...ure on d long thing,,,knwin some few tins abt illuminati doesnt mean ure done,,,dere ar sumtins dat u cant knw until u join dem...even afta joining dem,dey av stages where u'll reach b4 knwin sum certain tins,frm ur posts..i c u knw notin atall about dis damn pple,,if u wish to knw dem..u have to trace back d story of creation,,nd thread it down from then till d present now,,den u will knw most of deir modus operandi,,,,deyre cunny nd deluding just like satan,well..deyre his physical agents,,,.....nd one more thing....I AM NOT SPEWING FABLES ,,,DICKBRAIN .,,,go read d history of ancient europe...wen magic is a practice in d western europe(england and co),,and wen barbarism and gladiation is also a practice in d eastern europe(rome and co),,,den wen d christian crusader defeated d roman empire...creating a dawn of d holy roman empire,dat is wen all dat practice was abolished,,nd dey reach out to d western europe...nd dem too condemned d practice of magic,thus,d two parts bcome united nd reach out to other worlds,,dat is wen how began colonizing other parts of d world...starting from america,meanwhile,b4 ,wen and afta all dat took place...dere are darkenesses present in dem,cloaking demselfs as lights...waitin for d right time to strike out,,nd it has been done from den . Dere ar secret societies present den...nd deyre also among christian crusaders..so u c wat i mean,,in every good...dere is evil . D movie MERLIN,it was carved out from d legend of king Arthur,dats y d name Arthur was in d characters.......let me ask u,,,did u knw d true legend of Arthur ?....if u do,,,den u'll get d full insight of all wat am saying all dis while .

try writing in clean and clear spelling and english perharps i will understand you, i am struggling Reading your text massage

Wanted to stay out of this thread but I figured I will just say some few things so here goes..
First I will have you guys know that the illuminati has existed since the beginning and are as real as the blood flowing through your veins right now.. They go all the way back to the so called days of Adam and Eve.( Adam and eve both represent humanity ). There are 13 original bloodlines of which are all part of the lucifer soul group.( in other words their creator is lucifer or they are lucifer; just as us some of humans are part of the Yahweh soul group.)

Secondly I see some of you are mentioning jayz/kanye as holding some kind of power. That's laughable.. Even the so called powerful names that most of you know like the rothchilds , the Rockefellers, England's royal family etc are all really pawns in the game. Though these guys are part of the "family", they are not part of the 13th original bloodlines.. The lineage of the original bloodlines holds the real power and mostly works from behind the scenes.

That's all I am going to say for right now. Btw I will advice you all to live your life and not worry about the illuminatis. You have been put on this earth to live so live and stop worrying about things beyond your control..