Confessions of Abdulsleek the sleeky undercover muslim
Have you ever sat down in freshly ironed pants on a bright sunny day, thinking to yourself; "I am so awesome"? Well, that was how I felt after my first few postings as a "muslim" called "Abdulsleek". I was a bit angry at the unfair 3 month ban I received from Maclatunji. I believe that i wouldnt have been banned if I were a muslim asking the same questions about islam and therefore, I came up with a plan to ask difficult questions. The muslim, Abdulsleek was born. I managed to convince NL muslims that I was a muslim.

Abdulsleek was modelled after my muslim friend who works in the financial world in London. The character that I made was a typical Westernized muslim who is trying to reconcile his highly-educated capitalist lifestyle with islamic principles. Abdulsleek is also a muslim that is very much friendly with many non-muslims from various backgrounds. I chose the name "Abdulsleek" because my favourite muslim friend/name is Abdul and what I was doing was "sleeky".

I learnt a lot of things while being Abdulsleek and I am going to share them. I would have done this thread earlier if not for my ban.
Here are Abdulsleek's threads;
https://www.nairaland.com/1058235/having-troubles-faith-islam-please
https://www.nairaland.com/1061098/non-muslims-vs-muslims-debate-work





Lessons Learnt from Abdusleek

1) Muslims love a honest and aspiring muslim; I started posting on the Islam section as a "honest but confused" muslim who was struggling with his faith but wants to progress. I came in with all the warm greetings; "salam alaikum" "subanallah" etc ans explained my problems- the non-muslim infidels at work were harsh to muslims and there was a problem of riba at work.

I could not imagine all the love I got from muslims here. They came with consolations, comfort and advice; "dont mind the western infidels at work", "Allah will guide you through these rough times" etc.

It was comforting in a way to see how muslims comfort each other ad try to strengthen each others' faith.



2) Muslim brotherhood has nothing for non-muslims; No, its not what you think! I am not talking about the muslim brotherhood in Egypt I am referring to the point I raised above. There is a brotherhood among muslims which is very heartwarming. Muslims from all backgrounds have some kind of unity.

However, such brotherhood doesnt extend to non-muslims as I learnt from the leeway given to Abdulsleek. I asked basically the same difficult questions about riba interreligious marriages and blasphemy but I was answered with respect as a muslim. However, as an atheist, I was dismissed as a hater and an islamophobe. Shouldnt all humans be treated equally? It seems people like a comfortable illusion. Abdulsleek is an illusion. Logicboy is the real thing




3) Islam is strict with rules, therefore, many Nairaland muslims are predictable; This was how I was able to convince maclatunji, LagosShia, Sweetnecta, Vedacool and co that I was a muslim. All I had to do was say "salaam" and start reciting the Islamic mantra;

Islamic mantra of the modern day
-Westerners (non muslim) dont understand islam
-The non-muslims in the west are oppressors (oppresors in my place of work)
-Capitalist western comapanies invest and engage in riba etc
-Westerners (non-muslims) want to have premarital sex with women, even muslim women who are not allowed
-The westerners dont understand the limits of freedom of speech and blaspheme against the prophet etc

I have to say that I am not a westerner and I do not support some of their policies but I used the animosity towards the west to cover my tracks. The rules or laws in Islam that I understood perfectly were Riba, pre-marital sex prohibition and the islamic "attitude" to blasphemy.



4) Some muslims are just imam or cleric followers on advice; I knew that Riba was a difficult subject because it deals with finance and also, many islamic countries engage in it. Two muslims fell into the trap. They were giving advice on riba by copying and pasting and repeating things they learnt from fatwas. I clearly have a finance background and soI could argue robustly on the issue of riba. Clearly some of these muslims were giving me advice on things that I even could express better than them.

It doesnt stop at Riba. I was expecting logical arguments for some islamic positions and fatwas but some could only just say that it was the will of Allah.


5)Dawah and non-muslim thinking is a problem; I can carry the Quran and act like a muslim but many NL muslims can not even fathom how an atheist or evn christian thinks. I learnt this when I was asking on advice to deal with non-muslims in my workplace. Some of the advice I got showed that such muslims could not even see the problem from the unbeliever's point of view. I will explain with the issue of an atheist/christian man marrying a muslim woman.

Clearly, the Western atheist/ cultural christian is secular and believes that love and compatibility matters most in a relationship. Therefore if a Hindu or muslim girl is compatible with him, marriage is ok. The western man also believes that all people are equal and so all women are available.

The proble is that some muslims just think that they can just say that it is Allah's will that they (the western man) can not marry muslim women to his face. It doesnt work like that. You have to give very very deep logical explanations before he can accept- other than that you're a bigot to him.



6) Tbaba has Islamic Swagg ; I have come to respect Tbaba on this islamic section more than any muslim. He was the only one that could defend his advice and positions clearly. There are some disagreements that I have with him but I can put that aside because he clearly comes accross as an intelligent and respectful guy.

However, as logicboy, Tbaba is too respectful for my liking. Tbaba will debate with you but if you mock islam, he will call it quits. How does he expect a kaffir atheist like me not to mock islam? I dont accept the religion and so, how can I take it seriously? Even the Quran describes kaffirs like me as mockers;


So they have indeed denied (the truth - this Quran), then the news of what they mocked at, will come to them (26;6)



7) A leopard cant change its spots and Logicboy cant change his kaffir ways; As time passed, people were confused at some of my utterings as a ~"muslim". I was saying things that a devout muslim shouldnt say. I could only go undercover for so long. However, I still kept it together. When people were reacting to my posts negatively, I would quote some verses in the Quran, to show off my islamic knowledge to remove doubt.

However, I was exposed by that annoying woman called Tpia! She has always hated me as logicboy and as someone that was not held back by islam to suspect a muslim brother, she accused me of being a fake muslim.

It all came crashing down after that. People started suspecting me. It was over. They started comparing my posts to that of an unbeliever and logicboy. I denied and denied. Then I had to run away in shame


All in all, it was a great experience


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NB; Special pleading to Maclatunji- I know that I have done something dubious by acting as Abdulsleek but everyone seemed to enjoy those threads by Abdulsleek . You have every right to ban me and even ban this thread but find it in your heart and use your convictions to see that I meant no harm, its just the way I am- an adventurous young man that likes to think outside the box. People understand me in the other religion section. I might attack religions at times, but I am just a honest guy who likes crazy fun. If you're a muslim that likes this thread and Abdulsleek's adventures, please comment. This could be a fun activity and learning experience[/size]

Hmmmmmm..........

Your sense of delusion is on a grand scale. It was painfully obvious that you were using a fake identity but hey... I am not here to cure your hallucinations. I am too tired to address your case tonight, it's a crazy wild night already.

maclatunji: Your sense of delusion is on a grand scale. It was painfully obvious that you were using a fake identity but hey... I am not here to cure your hallucinations. I am too tired to address your case tonight, it's a crazy wild night already.

Stop it! It was not obvious. Just look at your first comment on the first Abdulsleek thread;

https://www.nairaland.com/1058235/having-troubles-faith-islam-please#12320985

maclatunji: ^Salam Alaykum my brother, wow! I think I can identify with some of your dilemma.However, you need to understand stand Islamic injunctions are independent of people, even Muslims. So, whether some Muslims practise them (properly) or not, those issues remain valid. As for interest, it's quite possible that those Muslim countries have little or no choice because they won't be able to carry-out international trade without those interest bearing instruments. Another thing that has happened over the years is that western banks were using interest abandoned by Muslim governments to support causes, organizations, institutions and governments that were practically against Islam and Muslims. I have it on reasonable authority that this facilitated a review of many Muslims on the matter.

Please know that most rules in Islam are not absolute and certain condition may alter their implementation. I am a little bit busy but just wanted to respond to you.

maclatunji: Your sense of delusion is on a grand scale. It was painfully obvious that you were using a fake identity but hey... I am not here to cure your hallucinations. I am too tired to address your case tonight, it's a crazy wild night already.

Please, dont ban this thread, abeg!

Logicboy03:


Stop it! It was not obvious. Just look at your first comment on the first Abdulsleek thread;

https://www.nairaland.com/1058235/having-troubles-faith-islam-please#12320985

Go and check my comment to Ayinba.

i did say you were abdulsleek.

maclatunji:

Go and check my comment to Ayinba.

Where is that?

tpia1: i did say you were abdulsleek.

And why did you have to expose me? Did you really hate me that much?

Logicboy03:


Stop it! It was not obvious.

it was obvious after a while.

Logicboy03:


And why did you have to expose me? Did you really hate me that much?

you're the one hating yourself, like i've always told you.

stop whining all the time- very unbecoming and juvenile.

as per exposing, is it that easy to hide, really.

tpia1:

it was obvious after a while.

Yes...but not at the beginning

tpia1:


you're the one hating yourself, like i've always told you.

stop whining all the time- very unbecoming and juvenile.

as per exposing, is it that easy to hide, really.

So, i shouldnt complain? Do you have any idea how many times I have been banned? lol

Obviously,you have done more harm to your name on nairaland than you initially thought.you have proved yourself a bad liar and confessed you're here for fun.you can't change anyone here (except perhaps you fake another I'd of a "muslim" turning atheist).for you to employ all these miserable tactics expose your frustration and desperation at attention seeking.you also have proven your failure in this section on islamic topics.you're here to have fun,so I'd advice you to go to the joke section and have fun and laugh there.many of us if not all are here to seriously interact with our fellow muslims,either to spread islamic knowledge or seek knowledge.we don't joke with Islam and the sooner you learn that the more serious people would take you here.you don't fool around and still think muslims would treat you like the way they treat a fellow muslim sincerely seeking knowledge,as you pretended with your "abdul sleek" username.

From now on people will hardly give you any attention.you'd be talking to yourself most often.and if you reply to this my post,you won't be honored with a reply from me.have fun with the more bans that apparently await you!

Logicboy03:


Yes...but not at the beginning

it was obvious after the first page or so, maybe even before then- i have to check.

i'm usually pretty good at spotting these things, most times while others are still entranced.

LagosShia: Obviously,you have done more harm to your name on nairaland than you initially thought.you have proved yourself a bad liar and confessed you're here for fun.you can't change anyone here (except perhaps you fake another I'd of a "muslim" turning atheist).for you to employ all these miserable tactics expose your frustration and desperation at attention seeking.you also have proven your failure in this section on islamic topics.you're here to have fun,so I'd advice you to go to the joke section and have fun and laugh there.many of us if not all are here to seriously interact with our fellow muslims,either to spread islamic knowledge or seek knowledge.we don't joke with Islam and the sooner you learn that the more serious people would take you here.you don't fool around and still think muslims would treat you like the way they treat a fellow muslim sincerely seeking knowledge,as you pretended with your "abdul sleek" username.

From now on people will hardly give you any attention.you'd be talking to yourself most often.and if you reply to this my post,you won't be honored with a reply from me.have fun with the more bans that apparently await you!

For everyone that doesnt know, LagosShia was the only one who was truly hurt by Abdulsleek


Abdulsleek was the one that uncovered the fact that LagosShia was a fanatic! LagosShia confessed that he would kill Salman Rushdie if he had the chance.


Godd times. Good times.

LagosShia: Obviously,you have done more harm to your name on nairaland than you initially thought.you have proved yourself a bad liar and confessed you're here for fun.you can't change anyone here (except perhaps you fake another I'd of a "muslim" turning atheist).for you to employ all these miserable tactics expose your frustration and desperation at attention seeking.you also have proven your failure in this section on islamic topics.you're here to have fun,so I'd advice you to go to the joke section and have fun and laugh there.many of us if not all are here to seriously interact with our fellow muslims,either to spread islamic knowledge or seek knowledge.we don't joke with Islam and the sooner you learn that the more serious people would take you here.you don't fool around and still think muslims would treat you like the way they treat a fellow muslim sincerely seeking knowledge,as you pretended with your "abdul sleek" username.

From now on people will hardly give you any attention.you'd be talking to yourself most often.and if you reply to this my post,you won't be honored with a reply from me.have fun with the more bans that apparently await you!

What an irony.....a self righteous fanatic


You want to judge me when you have admitted to wanting to kill someone?

tpia1:

it was obvious after the first page or so, maybe even before then- i have to check.

i'm usually pretty good at spotting these things, most times while others are still entranced.

At first, you commented and you didnt know. Look at your first comment

However, I was exposed by that annoying woman called Tpia! She has always hated me as logicboy

you flatter yourself.


do i have your time?

and as someone that was not held back by islam to suspect a muslim brother, she accused me of being a fake muslim.

i simply said you were logicboy, not my business if you're a fake or real muslim.

maybe in your mind you accused yourself of being a fake muslim?

tpia1:

you flatter yourself.


do i have your time?


i simply said you were logicboy, not my business if you're a fake or real muslim.

maybe in your mind you accused yourself of being a fake muslim?

Whatever!


You never leave good comments about me

i just went through the thread in question, and you were the one who exposed yourself, not me.

it was too obvious nah.

cant take the credit for that.

Logicboy03:



Whatever!


You never leave good comments about me

did you ask me to leave good comments about you?

tpia1: i just went through the thread in question, and you were the one who exposed yourself, not me.

it was too obvious nah.

cant take the credit for that.

It was probably obvious for you but not for the others.

i think some other people as well.

tpia1: i think some other people as well.

I doubt that. The responses I got even from you at first, were clearly real. After the first and a half page, any christian or atheists could be suspicious.

hmm,

anyway

Abdulsleek was modelled after my muslim friend who works in the financial world in London

are you sure.

tpia1: anyway





are you sure.

Yes, of course. Why would you doubt that? Or do you think that I'm a former muslim??

yes, you come across that way.

i mentioned it on one of the threads in question.



your method of attacking christianity is actually, dialectically muslim.

wbb

tpia1: yes, you come across that way.

i mentioned it on one of the threads in question.



your method of attacking christianity is actually, dialectically muslim.

I am just very smart. Unlike many christians who read only anti-islamic websites, I read the Quran myself and so, there is no wiggle room for muslims to lie about their religion to me.


As for attacking christianity, I was a catholic almost all my life and so, I dont see how you can see me as a former muslim.

I doubted your being a Muslim from the beginning.

It was a time when I wasnt spendimg much time here so I cldnt make comments which would av included how much I cldnt agree that u were a Muslim