9jacrip:

You are too slow to realize I'm trying to make sure ppl on here don't go sharing wrong history? Between its absurb to ask me where in Ife I'm from. If you're not from Ife then whatever family compound I mention would make no meaning to you.
From your post history it appears you're on the prowl for ibos, you have the wrong person.
Keep it moving bruh.

alaye u r d one confusing urself.u see yorubas appraisibg their identity while u r doing d opposite.nw tell me hw i wont be sure u r not camouflaging

St_Black:
alaye u r d one confusing urself.u see yorubas appraisibg their identity while u r doing d opposite.nw tell me hw i wont be sure u r not camouflaging

OK. I'm more Concerned about history based on facts and not just throwing appellations around or extolling the tribe on the internet.
You'd be surprised most of the posters throwing praises around have not been home before. Wan de 'le ri, wan mo ile baba wan. They just know they hail from so so town/state.
I'm deeper than that.

9jacrip:

OK. I'm more Concerned about history based on facts and not just throwing appellations around or extolling the tribe on the internet.
You'd be surprised most of the posters throwing praises around have not been home before. Wan de 'le ri, wan mo ile baba wan. They just know they hail from so so town/state.
I'm deeper than that.

hehe.a sese n soro gidi bai. i taught they were on d receiving end cos d way u were really throwing those jabs upon jabs ,omo ko rorun o.

anyway sa,im now convinced we r one and same.
id like to make a follow...or do u mind?

St_Black:
hehe.a sese n soro gidi bai. i taught they were on d receiving end cos d way u were really throwing those jabs upon jabs ,omo ko rorun o.

LMAO! Baba itan yoruba gbodo je gbogbowa l'ogun gan. It shouldn't be something we handle with levity or allow anyone manipulate to suit any agenda.

St_Black: anyway sa,im now convinced we r one and same.
id like to make a follow...or do u mind?

Not a problem sir, following right back.

9jacrip:

LMAO! Baba itan yoruba gbodo je gbogbowa l'ogun gan. It shouldn't be something we handle with levity or allow anyone manipulate to suit any agenda.

Sure now.but nigbami,eyan kan ma gbe ile baba e ga,bi o tie da

sweetcheecks: Absolutely beautiful. I love the Yorubas and expect to have Yoruba kids. The information will help understand their history.
Thank you.
Proudly Xhosa/ Yoruba!

You are more than welcome.Common pagan 9ja that was too harsh on her

Rubbish post. You went to hire and artist to sketch those funny pictures. You guys are always being conquered by every tribe
Ordinary Fulan conquered you people. Make you go sleep joo

Balkan: Rubbish post. You went to hire and artist to sketch those funny pictures. You guys are always being conquered by every tribe
Ordinary Fulan conquered you people. Make you go sleep joo

d fulani is conquering,yet d oyo empire is still 100 times bigger than d aroshuku empire that was unconquered..
i guess the then aroshuku people would have wished for a fulani invasion so that they wont be so small like ratholes as they are today...

Orikinla:

Before Oduduwa arrived Ile Ife, there was Ifa and he met Yorubas there.
Olodumare is the father of the Yorubas and not Oduduwa.

.... ifa was brought from saudi arabia with lamurudu when they chased him out from arabia.

Balkan: Rubbish post. You went to hire and artist to sketch those funny pictures. You guys are always being conquered by every tribe
Ordinary Fulan conquered you people. Make you go sleep joo

ARE U THROU OR DO U HAVE MORE TO SPILL. [quote author=Balkan]Rubbish post. You went to hire and artist to sket

babaowo: .... ifa was brought from saudi arabia with lamurudu when they chased him out from arabia.

oga,ur OWN ifa is d one frm saudi arabia not that of yorubaland o,gerrit?

9jacrip:


Same way you're recycling same point.
The question now is, despite these trades and exchanges did the Yorubas convert to islam in major 'quantity'?

P.S: it is cavalry sir.

Thank you for the correction, I felt there was something wrong with that spelling, didn't bother to check.

Now, look at it. The Fulani captured Ilorin. How did that affect a place like Ibadan, Ogbomosho or even Lagos Island to the point that the Yoruba population is split roughly 50-50 between Islam and Christianity? The descedants of Alimi who outmaneuvered Afonja to become what is now known as the Emir of Ilorin have never exercised effective political or military control over these places.

Please can someone explain to me the reason why ancient Yoruba ladies/women had hair cuts?

Texas.Cowgirl:


Yea, torturing and sacrificing helpless, innocent animals aint evil....

Ngga GTFOH

What a joker

Christianity and Islam both upholds animal sacrifice. All religion does. One of the reasons I believe we serve one God.

Except some serve God in an unacceptable way in mankind's eyes.

Texas.Cowgirl:


Which Fulanis?

Nigerian Fulanis that are as educated as their cows are still pagans

The most advanced Fulanis in Nigeria are the ones assimilated into Hausa religion of Islam.

Yoruba Muslims are as educated as their Christian and traditionalist counterparts... tho

This post rigs of the average southern Nigerian ignorance.

Actually Hausas are the ones assimilated into Fulani religion of Islam. Take your time and research on Fulanis. Most of the religious bigots are Fulanis.

Do you also know that majority of Nigerian leaders from the North dead and alive are fulanis?

Next time you see a person from northern Nigeria, take your time to ask relevant questions.

Till then stop this ignorance.

ninja4life: PROUDLY YORUBA^{PROUDLY YORUBA}PROUDLY YORUBA

ise agbe nise ile wa eni kosise amajale iwe kiko laisi oko ati ada koipe o..... Bigsup to all Yoruba boy/girls out there proudly ODUA

funnyx:

Internal strife was the major undoing of the Yoruba kingdom then, it wasn't as if Fulani could have overun Yorubaland so easily but because of the division it was easy to conquer village by village. The table turned when the great warriors of ibadan intervened and sent fulani back.

The Fulani did not over run any villages. The Fulani successfully held on to Ilorin but Oyo was sacked by Ilorin whose forces were made up of Solagberu's Yoruba Muslims from Oke Suna and Afonja's Yoruba armies mixed with Hausa slaves (Gobirawa). Ilorin could only sack oyo after Lanloke laid siege to oyo Ile. There were several powerful kings/chiefs who were no longer the influence of oyo and who were all suspicious of the others. Some of there were Adegun (Onikoyi), Atiba (who would be Alaafin after fall of oyo Ile), lanloke (Ogodo). Alaafin Amodo in wanting to increase his power sought an alliance with lanloke by giving his daughter to lanloke. Unfortunately, lanloke killed the Alaafin's daughter and fearing that he would be attacked decided to attack oyo ile first. He successfully laid seige to oyo ile and after oyo sucummbed to his siege, Ilorin walked in and destroyed oyo Ile.

But you are correct in that Ibadan defeated the Fulani at Oshogbo in 1840.

9jacrip:
[size=15pt]erroneous[/size].

I personally don't have to argue with you. It is obvious you aren't enlightened enough to know who LAMURUDU was. There are a number of Yoruba scholars that have confirmed that LAMURUDU is one and the same as NIMROD. It is left for you to become enlightened in actual history of the Yoruba people. On this forum, I only discuss with knowledgeable people who have modern views on legendary Yoruba history like Negro-ntns, katsumoto, physicsQED and Amor4ce. If you could humble yourself, I have so much shocking stories to tell you about the origins of Yoruba people. I am talking about old myths on Yoruba origins that are being demystified day-by-day. One of them is LAMURUDU/NIMROD connection. I rest my case...

anonimi:

That may not be entirely true.
War is bad no doubt but it also allows for a lot of inventions that are converted to regular, daily peaceful use after the war.
I imagine the internal strife of yoruba city-states led to people being forced into alliances and building city walls, organising armies, greater metal works, organising markets and securing them etc.
Do you know how much "internal strife" there was among European nations up until as recent as 1945, the end of WW2
Would you say Europe is undone?

We should stop thinking in simplex mode and try to look at things from a very comprehensive perspective.

But you are overlooking more critical consequences of the internal strife

1. The Yoruba were not organized and couldn't reclaim Ilorin
2. The strife ensured that millions of Yoruba were sold into slavery
3. The British would never have taken over Yoruba land easily. 16 years of the Kiriji war meant the Yoruba were war weary when the British changed strategy from traders into colonialists.

maclatunji:

The opening post has a load of falsehood. Islam remains an integral part of modern Yoruba history. That is how people like moi exist.

Are you implying that you would not have been born without Islam? Islam, just like Christianity, is not an integral part of any Yoruba history.

Katsumoto:

But you are overlooking more critical consequences of the internal strife

1. The Yoruba were not organized and couldn't reclaim Ilorin
2. The strife ensured that millions of Yoruba were sold into slavery
3. The British would never have taken over Yoruba land easily. 16 years of the Kiriji war meant the Yoruba were war weary when the British changed strategy from traders into colonialists.

Haa, here is the great Katsumoto. I just mentioned you in my comment just above yours. One guy just pissed me off with his incongruent response...

[quote
author=maclatunji]

The opening post has a load of falsehood. Islam remains an integral part
of modern Yoruba history. That is how people like moi exist.[/quote]

Mr I too know. Islam was forced on d yorubas by d fulani invaders.

such a beautiful thread ruined by trash about arabs and egyptians. smh.

Ola Johnson: Omo Yoruba gidi ni mi, mi o de ni fi owo osi juwe ile baba mi.
Our culture is unique. Our numeral is the only that has addition and subtraction. For example, 22: meji le logun. 18: meji din logun.

??
Edo
19-okpa rho vbe ugie
20- ugie
21-okpa yan ugie.

PAGAN 9JA:



who is torturing we just chop am head off.

dont you eat meat? are you vegetarian

Nice one baby, pls dont learn d ways of d blood thirsty arabs.

Tony Spike:

I personally don't have to argue with you. It is obvious you aren't enlightened enough to know who LAMURUDU was. There are a number of Yoruba scholars that have confirmed that LAMURUDU is one and the same as NIMROD. It is left for you to become enlightened in actual history of the Yoruba people. On this forum, I only discuss with knowledgeable people who have modern views on legendary Yoruba history like Negro-ntns, katsumoto, physicsQED and Amor4ce. If you could humble yourself, I have so much shocking stories to tell you about the origins of Yoruba people. I am talking about old myths on Yoruba origins that are being demystified day-by-day. One of them is LAMURUDU/NIMROD connection. I rest my case...

There is no foundation in that Lamurudu tale. It was originally told by Sultan Bello. The story goes that Sargon (also known as Nimrod to some) and his followers were expelled from Akkadia. The tale goes further that Sargon was Okanbi in Yoruba, Najib in Hausa, Qanda in Songhay. How can one person be the same in three different places? All these places have Islam in common. But there are arabian records of any escape by any rulers into Africa. Sargon himself dies in his Kingdom and was succeeded by his son Rimush.

Second, If Sargon/Nimrod escaped in 605 BC, how can be Oduduwa's son/father/etc. if Oduduwa existed in the 12th century? Did it take him 1800 years to reach Ife. It is time that folks start finding historically plausible evidence to support this Lamurudu tale.

ALTRUTH:

Mr I too know. Islam was forced on d yorubas by d fulani invaders.

Islam was not forced on anyone.

[quote
author=St_Black]
d fulani is conquering,yet d oyo empire is still 100 times bigger than d
aroshuku empire that was unconquered..
i guess the then aroshuku people would have wished for a fulani invasion
so that they wont be so small like ratholes as they are
today...[/quote]

Shut up there u overaged vulture. Have u taken some ewedu today? Return to ur gutter now.

9jacrip:

I'm talking about islam becoming prevalent as a widely accepted religion. Yoruba had contact with muslims but they did not become converts, there was even a mosque at old oyo but used by itinerant muslims (visitors or traders) and yorubas didnt islamize till the jihad.

In a nutshell, your point only states exposure of yorubas to muslims/islam not their being proselytized.

Partly correct. Islam was present in Yoruba land through traders from Songhay etc. Islam came to be accepted because of war. Islamic tutors in those days used to have charms for protection. When Afonja revolted against Alaafin Aole, he went to Sheikh Alimi for charms to reinforce himself. When the internecine wars started in the 19th century, many Yoruba sought these charms from Islamic tutors and that was how many of them converted to Islam.

Chijiokeihedich: Let us be one nigeria.let us stop doing all this nonsence.luckout does fool that cal them selfs boko haram my pray 2them is that there we periche in this cuntry.

So because of Nigeria, I should know my culture tradition and heritage?