musKeeto:
No wahala. As Long AS Truth is proven to be on your side,

This is actually why I like you (no homo).....never angry and not a hardcore atheist.....unlike me.

musKeeto:
LOL.
From wikipedia - Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.

From dictionary: Atheism is the theory or belief that God does not exist.

I can't believe I'm having this aregument with you. Who is being dubious?

Also, if atheism can't be defined as saying there's no God, then Psalm 14:1 no longer applies to us.. And anytime I see you responding to that verse, I'll come over and whoop your ass..

So you even raised up the dubious level and went even more dubious? EH?

Stop using that fake dictionary from India-

a·the·ist (th-st)
n.
One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheist


Atheism is a disbelief in God. Can one truly say that bigfoot doesnt exist? No....What atheist say is that it is very (extremely) unlikely that God exist, just like big foot.

Throw away your dubious wikipedia and dictionary

As for Yahweh, he doesnt exist because he is a self-refuting contradiction. That is provable with logic. So me and other hardcore atheists (strong atheists) take psalm 14;1 personally.

Other gods, I remain in disbelief.

musKeeto:
Indeed freethinker is irreligious, that's not under dispute... But can a Christian 'freethink'? Can he make personal conclusions without resort to the Bible?

In fact, just to be a bit silly, when a Christian goes against what the Bible stipulates, example seeing nothing wrong with fornication, would you say he's freethinking?

You love 'secular' Christians... Don't you understand that indirectly you refer to Christians who understand their 'religious biases' but are able to look beyond it? Isn't that freethinking?

Shut up. Thanks for the dubious strawman I never said that christians cant engage in freethinking. The christians can't just be freethinkers. They cant be labelled as such. Here is a previous quote

Logicboy03:


Furthermore, christians can engage in freethinking, just like how I can run but I am not a runner/professional athlete

musKeeto:
I already explained why I find it absurd. What exactly is free thinking? Can anyone think without resort to ANY form of authority? Or is it just for those who can reason beyond 'religious' text? If freethinking is limited to the bolded,then my bad... I'm wrong..

Review my previous quote above

musKeeto:

Not logic, but knowledge.. What we know and how much we know affects our perceptions...

A shop was broken into. A black man was seen running across the shop. - To a racist, at this point, the black man stole from the shop.


A shop was broken into. A black man was seen running across the shop. The black man caught up with the thief and apprehended him.

I am missing the point. Whatever sha, logic is a great tool.

musKeeto:
Lol, no wound your lips o..


The world being flat wasn't logical but intuitive. That people would fall off the earth when they got to the end was logical.

Falling off the earth would only be logical if the world was flat. However, the earth being flat was illogical, considering that people had canoes and ships thousands of years before they accepted that it was round

musKeeto:
Don't pop that champagne yet..

Popping it now

striktlymi:


I can't believe this..a dogmatic Atheist

Dogmatic atheism is impossible

But you're too foolish to realise that.

Kay 17: The quintessential freethinker is in the mould of Socrates, the only man to know he is ignorant. The freethinker is consciously in search of the truth, he is willing to forsake all traditional "truth" even ethics. He is unbound by all authorities except Reason.

He will appear insensitive to society, disregard and subordinate Society's goals, aims and practices.

The freethinker is a rebel in short.

Proud to be almost a freethinker...lmao

Logicboy03:



Dogmatic atheism is impossible

But you're too foolish to realise that.

LWKMD!!!

Now brethren can you open your bibles dictionaries? Let's see if it is impossible for an Atheist to be dogmatic...


Definition of DOGMATIC

1: characterized by or given to the expression of opinions very strongly or positively as if they were facts <a dogmatic critic>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dogmatic

Read that LB and apply to yourself...

striktlymi:

LWKMD!!!

Now brethren can you open your bibles dictionaries? Let's see if it is impossible for an Atheist to be dogmatic...


Definition of DOGMATIC

1: characterized by or given to the expression of opinions very strongly or positively as if they were facts <a dogmatic critic>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dogmatic

Read that LB and apply to yourself...

Is atheism an opinion? hmm


Let's use a simple example;

Is there anything like a dogmatic disbelief in the toothfairy? Does that make sense to you?

Logicboy03:


Is atheism an opinion? hmm


Let's use a simple example;

Is there anything like a dogmatic disbelief in the toothfairy? Does that make sense to you?

When an Atheist says there is no God...that is definitely an opinion that is not based on facts. Or are you trying to tell us that Atheists don't have opinions?

You sir are a dogmatic Atheist!

Logicboy03:


Is atheism an opinion? hmm


Let's use a simple example;

Is there anything like a dogmatic disbelief in the toothfairy? Does that make sense to you?

...and you should learn the difference between the phrases 'dogmatic atheist' and 'dogmatic atheism'...

I used dogmatic Atheist in the event that you have not noticed...

Logicboy03:
This is actually why I like you (no homo).....never angry and not a hardcore atheist.....unlike me.

Lol. Crase man.

Logicboy03:
So you even raised up the dubious level and went even more dubious? EH?
Stop using that fake dictionary from India-

a·the·ist (th-st)
n.
One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheist

Stop using a free dictionary. They didn't have time to compile the different meanings of the word.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

Logicboy03:
Atheism is a disbelief in God. Can one truly say that bigfoot doesnt exist? No....What atheist say is that it is very (extremely) unlikely that God exist, just like big foot.

There's something called STRONG ATHEISM.. right?

Logicboy03:
Throw away your dubious wikipedia and dictionary

Lol.

Logicboy03:
As for Yahweh, he doesnt exist because he is a self-refuting contradiction. That is provable with logic. So me and other hardcore atheists (strong atheists) take psalm 14;1 personally.

But the PSALM is for those who say 'there's no God'...

Logicboy03:
Other gods, I remain in disbelief.

Does that include Allah? Chukwu? Obatala?

Logicboy03:
Shut up. Thanks for the dubious strawman I never said that christians cant engage in freethinking. The christians can't just be freethinkers. They cant be labelled as such. Here is a previous quote

Furthermore, christians can engage in freethinking, just like how I can run but I am not a runner/professional athlete

Alright. Clarification noted. I don't agree but how man go do? By that analogy, one can say I'm a Christian but not religious...

Logicboy03:
I am missing the point. Whatever sha, logic is a great tool.

No one's denying that. It brought us bombs and drones.

Logicboy03:
Falling off the earth would only be logical if the world was flat. However, the earth being flat was illogical, considering that people had canoes and ships thousands of years before they accepted that it was round

Yawn.. Just give up... Their logic was built on the perception that the world was flat.. It was sound logic, but wrong nonetheless.

Logicboy03:
Popping it now

striktlymi:


When an Atheist says there is no God...that is definitely an opinion that is not based on facts. Or are you trying to tell us that Atheists don't have opinions?

You sir are a dogmatic Atheist!

Atheists having opinions is not = atheism being an opinion

Disbelief in god = atheism = not an opinion


Atheism is a disbelief in God.....just as a dibelief in the toothfairy is not an opinion but how reality should be. A logical stance- not believing in things that have Zero evidence

Logicboy03:



Dogmatic atheism is impossible

But you're too foolish to realise that.

@Bold: turning white to black and making people believe it...


Nice trick...

Logicboy03:


Atheists having opinions is not = atheism being an opinion

Disbelief in god = atheism = not an opinion


Atheism is a disbelief in God.....just as a dibelief in the toothfairy is not an opinion but how reality should be. A logical stance- not believing in things that have Zero evidence

Are you for real?

You still have not noticed that you are calling white black?

Who talked about Atheism if not you?

musKeeto:
Lol. Crase man.


Stop using a free dictionary. They didn't have time to compile the different meanings of the word.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism



There's something called STRONG ATHEISM.. right?


Lol.


But the PSALM is for those who say 'there's no God'...


Does that include Allah? Chukwu? Obatala?


Alright. Clarification noted. I don't agree but how man go do? By that analogy, one can say I'm a Christian but not religious...


No one's denying that. It brought us bombs and drones.


Yawn.. Just give up... Their logic was built on the perception that the world was flat.. It was sound logic, but wrong nonetheless.

Okay, I give up.

striktlymi:

Are you for real?

You still have not noticed that you are calling white black?

Who talked about Atheism if not you?

Read my first reply to you "dogmatic atheism"

Logicboy03:


Read my first reply to you "dogmatic atheism"

Read my response to it...

striktlymi:

@Bold: turning white to black and making people believe it...


Nice trick...

striktlymi:

@Bold: turning white to black and making people believe it...


Nice trick...

Not as nice turning water into wine

Now that's a trick

Logicboy03:



Not as nice turning water into wine

Now that's a trick

Lol!!!

I hear ya...

Logicboy03:


You are silly. Is there any valid argument for god? See your life? Name one valid argument for God. I dare you


Please, stop trying to please christians, you only look silly

^

how you always go about trying to intimidate and bottle this muskeeto sef tier me o!

Smh.

truthislight:

^

how you always go about trying to intimidate and bottle this muskeeto sef tier me o!

Smh.

Lol, you must confuse us for Ihedinobi and Frosbel..

Note that we don't say either of us isn't a TRUE atheist because of the difference in opinions. You Christians should learn from that

Logicboy03:


There are christian dogmas you reject- good

There are christian dogmas you accept- fail


You can not be a freethinker

truthislight:

does that ^ means that one who is a "free" thinker is no longer "free" to accept a belief partan that seems logical to him


how then can he be "free" to think/be a "free"thinker if he cannot apply his thinking process in action in whatever way he wants or whatever calling he so freely chooses?
.................................................................

Sounds contradictory and ironic to meeee!

Detailed answer is wellcome

Logicboy03:



A christian believes in God.

God is illogical

End of story.

^^^

is that ^ an answer to the questions i had asted you?

Smh for you.

May be i had wested my time.

Empty head "freethinker".

*sigh*

truthislight:

^

how you always go about trying to intimidate and bottle this muskeeto sef tier me o!

Smh.

lol....Muskeeto is not afraid of any intimidation unfortunately

Not even afraid of being debunked.....


Must find the guy's weakness

truthislight:





^^^

is that ^ an answer to the questions i had ast you?

Smh for you.

May be i had wested my time.

Empty head "freethinker".

*sigh*

Shift commot jo......


nonsense....

musKeeto:
Lol, you must confuse us for Ihedinobi and Frosbel..

Note that we don't say either of us isn't a TRUE atheist because of the difference in opinions. You Christians should learn from that

Hhaha


That got me rolling on the floor

Kay 17: What of an individual subscribing after due scrutiny to a religious dogma as his personal belief??

illogicalboy will say at that point he was not "free"thinking.

He must be the one pushing information into everyones brain.

striktlymi:


I can't believe this..a dogmatic Atheist

the guy is a west of time.

He will not answer any questions but wishes to push his views on others.

Very boring.

truthislight:

the guy is a west of time.

He will not answer any questions but wishes to push his views on others.

Very boring.

Guy.....what did I do to vex you? Eh?

musKeeto:
Lol, you must confuse us for Ihedinobi and Frosbel..

Note that we don't say either of us isn't a TRUE atheist because of the difference in opinions. You Christians should learn from that

I wont call you daft, but then, the way Logicboy communicates with you leaves out much to be desired.

Logicboy03: @muskeeto


You are "silly"
"See your life" ?

^ etc.

Maybe you dont deserved more for airing your views. I just wander.

"Atheist fellowship" then >>> cat and dog.

truthislight:

I wont call you daft, but then, the way Logicboy boy communicates with you leaves out much to be desired.

Take heart, my dear.. I understand the way you, alexleo and a host of other Christians feel. There's a reason Jesus sent the Comforter.. It's well.. one day, Christians will silence the atheists in this section..

Logicboy03:


Guy.....what did I do to vex you? Eh?

I want you to always cool down and "think" befor giving answers to questions so that it will be convincing an argument.

Not just your personal opinion.
Peace.

musKeeto:
Take heart, my dear.. I understand the way you, alexleo and a host of other Christians feel. There's a reason Jesus sent the Comforter.. It's well.. one day, Christians will silence the atheists in this section..

You have been here for this long in this section and yet you dont understand me?

But for the seemingly obvious consequence of being an atheist, i hate the deceit of the so call religion/religious.

Speaking against this ills and lies is not my issue of complaint but rather a dishonesty of heart

It is also this religious lies that had turned some to atheist at the first place, as such, speaking against this deceit in religion is not my problem.

I dont think i and alexo want the same things.

truthislight:

the guy is a west of time.

He will not answer any questions but wishes to push his views on others.

Very boring.

Lol!!!

Kay 17:
from a surface view, yes BUT its unorganised to prove the existence of a being AFTER trusting it.

By this what you are suggesting is that a religious freethinker cannot see reason to trust, but reasons after trusting.
Thus, his reason is shaped by his trust for the entity in question.
One thing you need to understand is that freethinkers are not born, it(freethinking) is more like a dimension of understanding which negates whatever restriction liable to induce a distorted appreciation of a subject.
A stage of awareness that carries no bias for one's belief system.
Anybody can first trust and later rethink involve in 'freethinking' to ascertain the truism of whatever he/she holds.
As long as this be the case, that is, our thinking not restricted by a certain bias but moulded by an understanding of it, then we lay claim to freethinking.

Reyginus: By this what you are suggesting is that a religious freethinker cannot see reason to trust, but reasons after trusting.
Thus, his reason is shaped by his trust for the entity in question.
One thing you need to understand is that freethinkers are not born, it(freethinking) is more like a dimension of understanding which negates whatever restriction liable to induce a distorted appreciation of a subject.
A stage of awareness that carries no bias for one's belief system.
Anybody can first trust and later rethink involve in 'freethinking' to ascertain the truism of whatever he/she holds.
As long as this be the case, that is, our thinking not restricted by a certain bias but moulded by an understanding of it, then we lay claim to freethinking.

Such premature trust could serve as a bias