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Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 11:00am On Jul 26, 2013 |
I guess you want is to skip that too.^^^^^ According to the law of Moses, how many people did the apostles put to death by stones and rocks according to the dictate of the law? |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 11:05am On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I guess you want is to skip that too.^^^^^ The same apostles condemded eating strangled animals or eating blood... JUADIZING All of them set themselves apart (NAZERITES) JUADIZING All are guilty of juadizing as you say So go figure. Its not rocket science. THEY ARE EXACTLY AS THE MASTER IS BUT NOT GREATER. But you and your kind are somthing else entirely Simply put..... LAWLESS. |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 11:29am On Jul 26, 2013 |
Children of lawlessness. Romans 8:7 "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be" You think Moses gave the law? Was he not the messenger. Stop insulting the Torah (instruction of God/word of God). John 1:1 " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." This word was made flesh. When you insult the law, which Paul says is "holy", you insult God. I beg those of you that follow this 'wide is the gate' doctrine to search the scriptures. It is only in this way you will find the truth. 2 Corinthians 11:14 "For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him." Well, according to some of you, there are two gospels. The more you talk, the more ignorance you display for all to see. 1 Like |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by DrummaBoy(m): 11:39am On Jul 26, 2013 |
Debating MostHigh is a waste of valuable time |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 11:41am On Jul 26, 2013 |
DrummaBoy: Debating MostHigh is a waste of valuable time You Obviously have no spine. |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 11:44am On Jul 26, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: Children of lawlessness. Yeah. they love to see a Lawless Jesus in thier hearts, a jesus that the apostles never preached about Pure Lawlesness |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 11:46am On Jul 26, 2013 |
MostHigh:1 tim 4 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. MostHigh: You have not shown me where they stoned anyone according to the law of Moses. All you are showing me are Jewish traditions and customs. |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 11:50am On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: These are the traditions and customes which the master and apostles observed (LAW) Obviously you still dont get it. You cannot be greater than the master just try your best to be exactly LIKE HIM. Preadventure you will not be told to get thee behind you hypocrite. I know in your household there is nothing wrong with eating blood Or eating strangled things Or dead things for that matter Lawless children are all in HELL |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 11:51am On Jul 26, 2013 |
...how else can I understand, if you don't answer my questions! |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 11:54am On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: ... Mr Demi, again you err. Jesus was the sacrificial lamb. Up until then when you sinned, the law was there to condemn. Certain sins demanded death, other purification etc. His blood is sufficient, so no more stoning. Read the torah |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 11:56am On Jul 26, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: Children of lawlessness. Please my brother, Who does that verse regard as carnal? Is the law of God as used in the above verse the same as the law of Moses? |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 11:57am On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: ...how else can I understand, if you don't answer my questions! How does your insisstent TECHNICAL question about stoning to death negate the INSTRUCTIONS AND TEACHINGS that were observed by the master and his TRUE disciples? I have asked you to be mercifull in response to your question just as you proffessed master is, but you still want blood Well no blood for the vampires today We say mercy is the way. |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 11:57am On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Confused .com Is the law of God Different from the LAW of moses? 1 Like |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 11:58am On Jul 26, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: Is the law of Moses capable of making anyone righteous? |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 12:00pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
MostHigh: Is this a contest bro? I am trying to reason with you, please answer my question. (If you would) |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 12:10pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
MostHigh: He reckons Moses went up the mountain for 40 days and nights to write his own book. That law was already in effect, it was just being cast in stone to keep the rebellious people on the straight and narrow. The new covenant was that he would write these instructions in their hears. Jeremiah 31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: 33 but this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. But what would the lawless know about the prophets |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by DrummaBoy(m): 12:10pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
The law is like a sadistic lecturer that ensures no one passes an exam regardless of how you try. Purpose of the law: By the law we is the knowledge of sin. The law was given as a school master in anticipation of Christ. Grace is Jesus coming to write those exams for us. Passing with A's and I mean 100%. Grace is Christians presenting Jesus' report card and not ours. Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise Romans 6:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 1 Like |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 12:12pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
JesusisLord85: Brother you made my day @ Already in effect and Instructions in thier hearts Goshen and his gang have drafted a new constitution which they are yet to bind in leather or maybe try and cast in stone tooo. |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 12:20pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Another one: 1 Timothy 4: "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer". Now we know what the Torah says concerning clean and unclean. EVen your Paul will tell you: 2 Corinthians 6:17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," Secondly, the verse also mentions "forbidding to marry"..Does that sound like the Torah to you? Context brother. They were battling acsetism: Definition: "a lifestyle characterised by abstinence from various worldly pleasures, often with the aim of pursuing religious and spiritual goals" Now if someone takes "which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth", without knowing the law, yes, it is very easy to misunderstand. But if even Noah knew what was clean and unclean, in the mind of these people, 'food' is what can be eaten - not simply anything that lives and moves. Isaiah can help you with that too: Isaiah 66:17 "They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD" Continue to eat the unclean thing, and then explain to God why you think it is ok. Please, tell me where God decided the "abomination" is now ok in his sight? Is He not the same yesterday, today and forever? Paul kept the law, period: Acts 21: And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. 20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21 and they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. 22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24 them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. 25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. 26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them 1 Like |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 12:22pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: No contest here, and fire upon all forms of competition. Having said that let me address your question again. There is no phrase for different laws such as the law of God, Gods laws. Moses commandments , Gods commandments There are no distinctions, they are all Moses law. John 7:19: “Did not Moses give you the law, yet none of you keeps the law? Why do you seek to kill Me?” (did not Moses come down from the mount with the 10 C. the law of God.) Vs:23 “If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? The issue is the Sabbath day and his healing on it. Here Jesus relates the law of Moses is related to the Sabbath which is part of the 10 Commandments, they are one unit. 1 Like |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 12:27pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Perfectly so Without the LAW where would you get the word RIGHTEOUS Its like saying heaven without earth Being HOLY is a different kettle entirely though RemembeR TO BE HOLY ONE HAS TO BE SET APART |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 12:33pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
I am done with the two of you for now..thanks for having me. |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 12:35pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I am done with the two of you for now..thanks for having me. Done? Joker for sure.... |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 12:44pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
Goshen Goshen where art though? Though that has placed thyself HIGHER than the master himself. Potraying yourself as the master Even going as far as addressing the master and apostles with derogatory names. JUADIZERS ABI? And from what We can see you are even being worshipped by some as the master, they putting the masters words aside and freely partaking with you in your feast of LAWLESSNESS. Hell fire is full witrh the children of the LAWLESS one. |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by DrummaBoy(m): 2:57pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I am done with the two of you for now..thanks for having me. Sebi I told you 1 Like |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 3:35pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
DrummaBoy: Lawlessness. |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 3:38pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
DrummaBoy: The objective was to see where they were coming from and to show them my view point through scriptures. It was clear they weren't having it, so, I had to do the honourable thing to avoid unnecessary arguments. 1 Like |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 3:42pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I hear you. Meanwhile on other pages you are running up the meter in unecessary arguments. Children of the lawless one I tell you. Here I am now and you run with your tail between your legs I am sure goshen is hiding somwhere watching us as we speak |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 3:50pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
^^^^ Is it a competition, a contest or a fight? |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 3:53pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: As you know, I track your posts to make sure you are not leading anyone astray. I notice you pursue hard after others who don't share your view, and argue endlessly. You know the bible well - though I question your actual understanding - so you make yourself look good to many who only read the bible once a week, at church. It is when you come up against those who have also read, that you back down. In other words, you often bully people here. I will continue to bring the truth, which I back with scriptural reference AND context 3 Likes |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 3:53pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Like I answerd you befor not at all. More like its judgement time. You sure do know when to run though. Maybe if Goshen was to show face you would be able to stay a bit longer |
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 3:55pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
^^^^ Judgement from who? |
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