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Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 3:57pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi: ^^^^

Judgement from who?

Are you not a LAWLESS FELLOW?

By the words of your mouth you have been JUDGED already

Go figure.

grin
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 4:02pm On Jul 26, 2013
JesusisLord85:

As you know, I track your posts to make sure you are not leading anyone astray. I notice you pursue hard after others who don't share your view, and argue endlessly.
You know the bible well - though I question your actual understanding - so you make yourself look good to many who only read the bible once a week, at church. It is when you come up against those who have also read, that you back down. In other words, you often bully people here.
I will continue to bring the truth, which I back with scriptural reference AND context

I won't go into any personal exchange with you bro or anyone for that matter. I am quite flattered you find time to follow my post, while you are following, please make sure you take time to read them too.

Selah!
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:02pm On Jul 26, 2013
JesusisLord85:

As you know, I track your posts to make sure you are not leading anyone astray. I notice you pursue hard after others who don't share your view, and argue endlessly.
You know the bible well - though I question your actual understanding - so you make yourself look good to many who only read the bible once a week, at church. It is when you come up against those who have also read, that you back down. In other words, you often bully people here.
I will continue to bring the truth, which I back with scriptural reference AND context

I could not have put it better myself.

BULLY.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 4:02pm On Jul 26, 2013
MostHigh:

Are you not a LAWLESS FELLOW?

By the words of your mouth you have been JUDGED already

Go figure.

grin

By who?
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 4:03pm On Jul 26, 2013
MostHigh:

Like I answerd you befor not at all.

More like its judgement time.

You sure do know when to run though.

Maybe if Goshen was to show face you would be able to stay a bit longer

grin grin

I challenged his friend Goshen once when he blasphemed by insulting the law. I got no reply
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:06pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi:

I won't go into any personal exchange with you bro or anyone for that matter. I am quite flattered you find time to follow my post, while you are following, please make sure you take time to read them too.

Selah!

Wetin concern lawlessness with selah?

You aint fooling me Mr man

I would find it very strange you reading the psalms

Seeintg its messages and promises are addressed to JUADIZERS AKA ISREALITES as you put it

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Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:11pm On Jul 26, 2013
JesusisLord85:

I challenged his friend Goshen once when he blasphemed by insulting the law. I got no reply

That is thier MO

most times when confronted with the true implications of thier words and actions they just diasappear.

I guess its only natural.

Blaspheming the holy spirit is the only unforgivable sin

They are not content living exactly as yashua lives they want more


Lawlessness I tell you.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 4:11pm On Jul 26, 2013
MostHigh:

No contest here, and fire upon all forms of competition.

Having said that let me address your question again.

There is no phrase for different laws such as the law of God, Gods laws. Moses commandments , Gods commandments There are no distinctions, they are all Moses law.


2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin:

How many laws can you figure out from the above verse bro?
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by noblefada: 4:15pm On Jul 26, 2013
I don't know why someone is wasting time with @mosthigh and is new accomplice, bunch of confused dudes, talking about law of God & law of Moses, misquoting scriptures to back up their lies (I guess its the new thrend now for atheists, Muslims and perverters of the gospel to quote scriptures because they know many believers don't spend enough time studying). I won't waste my time with mosthigh and his compatriots Obadiah777.
@Goshen wonderful posts by way, more knowledge and wisdow and with us the word will always prevail.

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Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:19pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi:


2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin:

How many laws can you figure out from the above verse bro?

Here you come again with your flash in the pan.

You should get a pulpit to stand on so that when you talk all this your confusion your mind controlled zombie congregation can be there to ginger you on.

There is nothing to it....

Yashua and the apostles were all lawfull to the end

And here you are coming with your hocus pocus interpretation,shamelessly claiming to be greater than the master

You will get your reward.

shidedemi you are truly the son of the LAWLESS ONE

There is no shame in it just accept it as the first step then you can move on.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:22pm On Jul 26, 2013
noblefada: I don't know why someone is wasting time with @mosthigh and is new accomplice, bunch of confused dudes, talking about law of God & law of Moses, misquoting scriptures to back up their lies (I guess its the new thrend now for atheists, Muslims and perverters of the gospel to quote scriptures because they know many believers don't spend enough time studying). I won't waste my time with mosthigh and his compatriots Obadiah777.
@Goshen wonderful posts by way, more knowledge and wisdow and with us the word will always prevail.

See mumu talk for here keep living in your dream world its ok

grin grin

He that is against the LAW is LAWLESS ABI UNA NO GO SCHOOL KE.

LAW/LAWLESS

How much simpler can it be?

You openly profess there is no need to live exactly as jesus lives and you say you are ok.

Judgement.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 4:23pm On Jul 26, 2013
noblefada: I don't know why someone is wasting time with @mosthigh and is new accomplice, bunch of confused dudes, talking about law of God & law of Moses, misquoting scriptures to back up their lies (I guess its the new thrend now for atheists, Muslims and perverters of the gospel to quote scriptures because they know many believers don't spend enough time studying). I won't waste my time with mosthigh and his compatriots Obadiah777.
@Goshen wonderful posts by way, more knowledge and wisdow and with us the word will always prevail.

Misquote?
How many times have I noticed the anti-law brigade misquote?
Invetiably, when you haven't read the front of the book, you will not understand Paul's letters.
Acts 15, the whole of Galatians, Romans, 1 Timothy 4 (which I exposed today), you people keep quoting it but in doing so you only make it obvious -to those that know the law - that you have no idea what you are saying.

Romans 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

Ignore the law, and you will not understand what Paul is saying.

2 Peter 3:16 "As also in all his [Paul's] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 4:27pm On Jul 26, 2013
What law was he talking about in chapter 7:1?
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:27pm On Jul 26, 2013
JesusisLord85:

Misquote?
How many times have I noticed the anti-law brigade misquote?
Invetiably, when you haven't read the front of the book, you will not understand Paul's letters.
Acts 15, the whole of Galatians, Romans, 1 Timothy 4 (which I exposed today), you people keep quoting it but in doing so you only make it obvious -to those that know the law - that you have no idea what you are saying.

Romans 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

Ignore the law, and you will not understand what Paul is saying.

2 Peter 3:16 "As also in all his [Paul's] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

They profess to follow yashua but are doing another mans bidding


Even in the old school chinese movies that we all love EVERY LAST DESCIPLE DESIRES TO BE EXACTLY AS HIS MASTER.

Although some like goshen and his children say they are wiser than thier own master and need not follow in his exact foosteps

Madness I tell you. Confirmed Madness


But then again what do they know about descipleship.

They are hooked on showmanship.

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Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 4:36pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi: What law was he talking about in chapter 7:1?
Galatians 3:15-18
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise."

What Paul is saying here is that no on[/b]e can take away the covenant. You cannot set aside God’s covenant and add and take away from it. The covenant of faith requires you to trust and obey God’s commandments. But the Pharisees [b]added all these commandments which changed the covenant to one which was not from God. Hence it was a different gospel to the one Paul preached.

Only one law, the commands of Yahweh. Period

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Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 4:39pm On Jul 26, 2013
I asked a simple question bro... What law was Paul talking about in Romans 7:1?
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 4:43pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi: I asked a simple question bro... What law was Paul talking about in Romans 7:1?

There is only one giver of the law, Yahweh. He is speaking about a section of Torah. I am highlighting that it cannot be 'done away with...using scripture, as usual.
Spin your web and let us see what it is you are trying to spell out
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:44pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi: I asked a simple question bro... What law was Paul talking about in Romans 7:1?

You and paul ma sef na wa.

Where is yashua in you life.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 4:46pm On Jul 26, 2013
MostHigh:

You and paul ma sef na wa.

Where is yashua in you life.

I even wonder why Paul is quoting Torah here, since, according to our friend, it is no longer in effect.
Law of freedom they say lol
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:48pm On Jul 26, 2013
JesusisLord85:
Galatians 3:15-18
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise."

What Paul is saying here is that no on[/b]e can take away the covenant. You cannot set aside God’s covenant and add and take away from it. The covenant of faith requires you to trust and obey God’s commandments. But the Pharisees [b]added all these commandments which changed the covenant to one which was not from God. Hence it was a different gospel to the one Paul preached.

Only one law, the commands of Yahweh. Period


Only one law brother.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:50pm On Jul 26, 2013
JesusisLord85:

I even wonder why Paul is quoting Torah here, since, according to our friend, it is no longer in effect.
Law of freedom they say lol

Its a madnesss I tell you

They are fighting the holy spirit and then talking of life everlasting

Sounds like proper mind controll to me

Question is who could be controlling thier minds?

LWKM OOO

grin grin grin

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Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 4:51pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi:

By who?

How many time shall I say it?

By the blaspemouse words of your mouth you are judged.

Simply put.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 4:58pm On Jul 26, 2013
MostHigh:

How many time shall I say it?

By the blaspemouse words of your mouth you are judged.

Simply put.

May I know what role you are playing in the dynamics of things.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 5:01pm On Jul 26, 2013
JesusisLord85:

There is only one giver of the law, Yahweh. He is speaking about a section of Torah. I am highlighting that it cannot be 'done away with...using scripture, as usual.
Spin your web and let us see what it is you are trying to spell out

Lets say I agree with you, Paul went on to verse 2

2 For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband.

What law is he talking about in the bolded?
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 5:02pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi:

May I know what role you are playing in the dynamics of things.

You speak too much like the greek

Why all the big words?

Too much turenchi.

Adress issues as they are placed befor you and stop being a runaway soilder.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 5:04pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi:

Lets say I agree with you, Paul went on to verse 2

2 For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband.

What law is he talking about in the bolded?

Why are you knocking your head like this against a mountain?

If yashua obeyed the law to the letter is that not enough for you?

What more do you want.

Always quoting paul to discredit the words and works of the master

You already have your reward.
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by JesusisLord85: 5:05pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi:

Lets say I agree with you, Paul went on to verse 2

2 For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband.

What law is he talking about in the bolded?


hahaha, I know where you are going. You should be glad I stopped you. When I get in I will explain Romans 7 to you. This one won't be one of those "long" posts, I promise.
But in any case, this is Torah, echoed in Deuteronomy 24, Isaiah 54, Jeremiah 3. This was a mystery. Paul is revealing meaning. I will explain later
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 5:07pm On Jul 26, 2013
MostHigh:

You speak too much like the greek

Why all the big words?

Too much turenchi.

Adress issues as they are placed befor you and stop being a runaway soilder.


What issues bro, you have refused to answer questions. How do we then communicate as adults, if you can't prove your points with facts.

Do you believe the entire bible is the word of God?
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by flourishG(m): 5:14pm On Jul 26, 2013
Drummboy,shdemidemi n goshen, good job guys.the same way da them judaizers tried frustrate Pauline teachings,so it is till now.

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Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 5:15pm On Jul 26, 2013
shdemidemi:

What issues bro, you have refused to answer questions. How do we then communicate as adults, if you can prove your points with facts.

Do you believe the entire bible is the word of God?

Most certainly. But unlike you and your brethren I accept it as a whole and complete work

Being an antimonian is easy i know most especially beacause you have the majority on your side

But scripture does confirm that the majority will be destroyed.

Yashua feels the pains when people like you and goshen take the word of God apart and make a mess of it choosing some part of the WORD and Denying other parts

Just so you know Yashua taught/quoted from the book of deutronomy more than any other work of the torah

Deutronomy = Reminder of the LAW

Why are you not copying your master

Even paul whom you worship quoted the torah continuously

which one come be una own?
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by MostHigh: 5:17pm On Jul 26, 2013
flourishG: Drummboy,shdemidemi n goshen, good job guys.the same way da them judaizers tried frustrate Pauline teachings,so it is till now.

Paul is now your God Abi?

See you.. even the paul you are talking about is a juadizer as you put it derogatorily Act 18:18

What about yashua? well he was a juadizer also

Lawless children of the lawless one

Exalting themselves over Eloheem.

Go figure
Re: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by shdemidemi(m): 5:18pm On Jul 26, 2013
@ mosthigh
Have you ever heard about dispensations and rightly dividing the word of God?

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