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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mko2005: 4:23pm On Sep 12, 2013
Gpattern: Paul said, if any one, be it a man, an angel or even him paul teach any thing out side what he have thought, let him be acursed... And what paul thought is that only Jesus can save. So for me the pope is wrong in this matter.
By their fruit we can know them no be only when pastor buy private Jest o,or sleep with his worker for church but stuffs like this has got also to do with the fruit inherent in a man !

God help us
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mars123(m): 4:24pm On Sep 12, 2013
johnnyblakes: look its not about being a christain or muslim or any religion infact its not just religion,its about being a child of GOD and to be a child of GOD you must be born again by accepting JESUS CHRIST AS your personal lord and saviour and must live a holy and righteous life in order to see HEAVEN .PERIOD undecided kiss lipsrsealed undecided undecided undecided lipsrsealed kiss undecided
God is good,good is God...everything good is of God!good muslims and traditionalists will go to heaven.the good samaritan was just a GOOD man!christians sin and pray for forgiveness but atheits that sin,pray to no-one and hence will go to hell but atheits with a good conscience who can't do or cause harm but loves their neighbours as themselves,will be accepted by me,if I was God!christian in todays reality is just a WORD.the pope is not far from the truth cus no-one is perfect!he has a very forgiving heart...so,I'm proud to be catholic/christian.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by flyingdutchman(m): 4:25pm On Sep 12, 2013
The pope is angling for a united global church/religion that doesn't require homosexuals to repent, and accepts unbelievers- does anyone know where I'm headed? These things were predicted in the bible ages ago! Jesus is coming...

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by BrightCar: 4:26pm On Sep 12, 2013
I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT THE FRONT MAN IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH CAN SPEAK UNGUIDED. IS HE READING HIS BIBLE UPSIDE
DOWN? WELL HE IS ONLY SPEAKING TO BE LOVED BY MEN AND NOT LEADING MEN TO CHRIST. BE WARE OF THE HIRELING SAYS THE SCRIPTURE.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by endy231: 4:27pm On Sep 12, 2013
Hi guys,
There are plenty things in the bible ohhhhhh
You cant just read the bible and claim born again by holding to the facts that the bible said that if you dont belief in Jesus you wont see heaven.

Permit to ask these questions again;

Are all the muslims going to end up in hell. (cause they dont belief in Jesus, forget about bokoharam, there are still very good muslims out there)

Are all our ancestors that worshiped idols or other gods all going to end up in hell? (Remember that some of them never had the chance to know about Jesus)

Does it mean that everyone that does good, but does not belief in Jesus, would end up in hell?

Didnt the same bible say that GOD is all merciful. How do u interpret the mercy of God.

There are certain things we shouldnt talk about, if we are not sure.
God is God and he would continue to be God. The ways of God is not like the ways of man. You cant think for God, so keep your suggestions to urself. On that day, we all shall know.

Just like i love telling people, if there is anything not to play with at all in the bible, it is that PHRASE. God is LOVE. Remember the golden rule: Love one another.

Obeying this rule alone, can take you placessssssssssssssssssssss (I never said it would take you to heaven) but God is a fair God.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by danot1030: 4:29pm On Sep 12, 2013
ajf:
What about people who died before jesus christ was even born? Where will they be now?
Rm.1:18-21 say dey wil b judgd by their recognitn n consciousnes of GOD n their regard 4 Him as dey acknwldg d tin He creatd around dem
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by drstan(m): 4:31pm On Sep 12, 2013
elampiro: Now I am beginning to worry. Catholic prophecies have it that here will be an Antipope who will be one of the two beasts with the Antichrist as described in Revelation 13.

They explained that the Antichrist will be head of the one world govt while the Antipope will be head of a new age church basing their teachings on humanism and atheism. The Catholic church will be hijacked to form this new one world new age religion. They said the Antipope will take the seat of Peter, he wil rule and be loved by many due to his new all inclusive religion.
yes i had the prophecy long time ago, am telling you the truth the end is here. Like my brother had a dream last night and he saw a shining light when he came out to see he saw a writting .'' it is time " and a date but when he woke up he 4gote d date. . May God help us
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Nobody: 4:31pm On Sep 12, 2013
BERNIMOORE: Matthew 24:15

"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand--


Revelation 18:2

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons.

end-time prophecy in fuffilment, LET READERS DISCERN. no name calling pls.

Yes Babylon the great is fallen, let's wait and see.

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by joe4truth: 4:31pm On Sep 12, 2013
BERNIMOORE: Matthew 24:15

"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand--


Revelation 18:2

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons.

end-time prophecy in fuffilment, LET READERS DISCERN. no name calling pls.
I agree with you for only the wise shall understand.the world thinks this pope is being humbly not knowing that it's the scripture that is being fulfilled gradually.the ANTI-CHRIST will surely be revealed!!!

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Odunharry(m): 4:32pm On Sep 12, 2013
italo: This is Catholic teaching from time immemoria. The Catholic Church has always taught that those who through no fault of theirs do not know the Catholic Church to be God's true faith can go to heaven if they follow their conscience and live a good life.

Did you guys really think that all your ancestors would burn in hell?
Acts 17:30 "The times of ignorance God
overlooked, but now he
commands all people
everywhere to repent.

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mko2005: 4:32pm On Sep 12, 2013
italo: So you think all non-Christians are going to hell?

If all people today who hear the preaching of the good news(Jesus death,resurrection and ascension to bring salvation to mankind) and don't heed to it,will be qualified for hell,NO STORY !
In as much as i want all to make it to heaven,the reason i preach Jesus today.But if it happens that i see atheists who do not believe in heaven and others who do not accept and follow Jesus,eventually make it into heaven,then i will have a big meeting with Christ for questioning and answers in heaven ! He is my father I AM VERY SURE HE WILL ANSWER ME .

God help us
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by andyanders: 4:34pm On Sep 12, 2013
italo: This is Catholic teaching from time immemoria. The Catholic Church has always taught that those who through no fault of theirs do not know the Catholic Church to be God's true faith can go to heaven if they follow their conscience and live a good life.

Did you guys really think that all your ancestors would burn in hell?

That is why when they close church, they start visiting soothsayers and other outlets for spiritual help.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by HUGES: 4:34pm On Sep 12, 2013
italo: So you think all non-Christians are going to hell?

YES! All none xtians who refuse to believe in God (of Abraham d Jew) and Jesus Christ counting from d days of d bible apostles are hell bound. But 4 d days of ignorance (of dis true God) God will judge dem by conscience. And also, even my great grand father who did not hear d gospel of Jesus will go to hell if and only if he did not follow his consciences prompting to do rit. Or dont u knw dt it is dis GOD we are talking abt dat is in ur conscience telling u to do rit all d time and warning u wen u do wrong
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mars123(m): 4:36pm On Sep 12, 2013
BrightCar: I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT THE FRONT MAN IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH CAN SPEAK UNGUIDED. IS HE READING HIS BIBLE UPSIDE
DOWN? WELL HE IS ONLY SPEAKING TO BE LOVED BY MEN AND NOT LEADING MEN TO CHRIST. BE WARE OF THE HIRELING SAYS THE SCRIPTURE.

well,u claim to be aware of the hireling...hope u are still aware that God is not gonna judge the things you write down or say only but those things you believe in deep down your heart!
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Missonas(f): 4:36pm On Sep 12, 2013
We often look for flaws in whatever the pope or any man of God says or do when we should living our lives iin joy and peace.the statement made sounded more like 'If you won't believe in God then live a free life doing good to youself and all around you'.what's wrong with that?there's free will.no one knows how God wll judge us all He alone does
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Nicepoker(m): 4:36pm On Sep 12, 2013
johnnyblakes: look its not about being a christain or muslim or any religion infact its not just religion,its about being a child of GOD and to be a child of GOD you must be born again by accepting JESUS CHRIST AS your personal lord and saviour and must live a holy and righteous life in order to see HEAVEN .PERIOD undecided kiss lipsrsealed undecided undecided undecided lipsrsealed kiss undecided
u are not speaking 4 our muslim brothers. U post is based on christianity only
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by paulkhalifa(m): 4:37pm On Sep 12, 2013
Austeenxx: Yes!


I will make Heaven...

...even if I wäñk.
look atew, i pirrry u
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by theoctopus: 4:37pm On Sep 12, 2013
damerry: Gbam! Critics please answer the bolded. God bless the pope joor.

You have to understand the bible. The bible is not subject to your thinking or the popes thinking. Let me ask you a simple question.

Does the law of gravity care about what you think? Spiritual laws are what they are, spiritual laws. They are not subject to our opinions. The simple issue here is if you believe the bible or not. If you dont, well God help you. But if you profess that you do believe the bible, then you must follow what it says. The problem with what the pope said is that he professes that he is following Jesus CHrist and at the same time, he is preaching something that is anti Jesus Christ. He has a right to have his own opinion, but certainly that is not God's opinion as clearly spelt out in the Word of God. Jesus stated clearly and unequivocally, I am THE WAY, THE TRUTH and THE LIFE. No man comes to the father, except through me. John 14:14.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Nicepoker(m): 4:38pm On Sep 12, 2013
Clear signs of end time
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by theoctopus: 4:38pm On Sep 12, 2013
Missonas: We often look for flaws in whatever the pope or any man of God says or do when we should living our lives iin joy and peace.the statement made sounded more like 'If you won't believe in God then live a free life doing good to youself and all around you'.what's wrong with that?there's free will.no one knows how God wll judge us all He alone does

The bible is clear on how God will judge all men. Except you dont believe the bible, which is your choice
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by kwajahafiz(m): 4:40pm On Sep 12, 2013
nedu2000: The pope is pleasing man instead of God,the pope is WRONG....for the bible says,which I believe the pope uses as reference "except a man be born again he won't (even) see the kingdom of God [John3:3].......И̣̣̣̥o pope,cardinal or pastor can convince me otherwise
Your wisdom and that of many others has just not gotten to the level that would grasp what the pontiff says...
Dont be mad at urself for not understanding him yet. U will at a future time in ur evolution.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by ginas: 4:40pm On Sep 12, 2013
THIS MAN IS A JOKE. HE IS UNDOUBTEDLY PREPARING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF GAY.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:40pm On Sep 12, 2013
mars123: God is good,good is God...everything good is of God!good muslims and traditionalists will go to heaven.the good samaritan was just a GOOD man!christians sin and pray for forgiveness but atheits that sin,pray to no-one and hence will go to hell but atheits with a good conscience who can't do or cause harm but loves their neighbours as themselves,will be accepted by me,if I was God!christian in todays reality is just a WORD.the pope is not far from the truth cus no-one is perfect!he has a very forgiving heart...so,I'm proud to be catholic/christian.

Notice how your post has no scripture foundation but human philosophy?
You have been deceived my friend, receive Jesus and be saved.

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by directonpc(m): 4:40pm On Sep 12, 2013
Worship the Lord our God not your pastor not the Pope.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:41pm On Sep 12, 2013
flying dutchman: The pope is angling for a united global church/religion that doesn't require homosexuals to repent, and accepts unbelievers- does anyone know where I'm headed? These things were predicted in the bible ages ago! Jesus is coming...

Signs of the end time and the unveiling of the anti-christ

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by dareabiola98(m): 4:42pm On Sep 12, 2013
Abraham,Moses looked up to a supreme biegn,the creator of the heaven and earth and they never called jesus...who was theat supreme being that jesus overthroned..
elampiro:

There is a difference beween the ancestors and now. The ancestors never had the opportunity to hear about God yet history has it they still looked up to heaves (sky) when they called upon a Supreme Being. They are different from atheist who rejected the good news.

Even if atheist might be saved, the head of Christians should call them to beauty of God rather than encourage them to remain in their unbelief.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by paulkhalifa(m): 4:44pm On Sep 12, 2013
BrightCar: I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT THE FRONT MAN IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH CAN SPEAK UNGUIDED. IS HE READING HIS BIBLE UPSIDE
DOWN? WELL HE IS ONLY SPEAKING TO BE LOVED BY MEN AND NOT LEADING MEN TO CHRIST. BE WARE OF THE HIRELING SAYS THE SCRIPTURE.

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by 3kay945(m): 4:45pm On Sep 12, 2013
You hypocrites are here again
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mars123(m): 4:45pm On Sep 12, 2013
endy231: Hi guys,
There are plenty things in the bible ohhhhhh
You cant just read the bible and claim born again by holding to the facts that the bible said that if you dont belief in Jesus you wont see heaven.

Permit to ask these questions again;

Are all the muslims going to end up in hell. (cause they dont belief in Jesus, forget about bokoharam, there are still very good muslims out there)

Are all our ancestors that worshiped idols or other gods all going to end up in hell? (Remember that some of them never had the chance to know about Jesus)

Does it mean that everyone that does good, but does not belief in Jesus, would end up in hell?

Didnt the same bible say that GOD is all merciful. How do u interpret the mercy of God.

There are certain things we shouldnt talk about, if we are not sure.
God is God and he would continue to be God. The ways of God is not like the ways of man. You cant think for God, so keep your suggestions to urself. On that day, we all shall know.

Just like i love telling people, if there is anything not to play with at all in the bible, it is that PHRASE. God is LOVE. Remember the golden rule: Love one another.

Obeying this rule alone, can take you placessssssssssssssssssssss (I never said it would take you to heaven) but God is a fair God.
well,I soo LOVE ur comment,I cannot LIKE it!God will surprise all these judgemental people.your conscience is the proof that God is right there with u!the moment you loose ur conscience,u loose God!

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by tsmith(f): 4:47pm On Sep 12, 2013
elampiro:

The Pope is saying atheist should be comfortable being atheist and you support him?

Yes, I support him.

Call me a radical Christian, but my experiences in life have shaped me and my belief. I believe in God, because I have personally experienced in and have a 1 on 1 relationship with him. I believe in Jesus Christ & the bible (to some extent) because that these have been indoctrinated into me and fed my belief. But I do not believe Christianity is the only way to God. I believe one’s good deeds would speak bigger volume that the religion you practice on the last day (if there is one)

To start off, the bible was written by human beings like me, their account of events, for the fact that I didn’t see nor was I present at these events leave room for doubt! I also believe because the bible has literary and factual meanings to things, Man over time have interpreted/misinterpreted these (remember what happens with Chinese whispers?).

We talk about God’s grace and how big and incomprehensive it is to man’s understanding, yet we under-estimate such grace. What makes you think on the last or at the gates of heaven, that God would not change his mind contrary to the bible and extend grace to each person. His grace never ends.

I have asked him, the same way he spoke people 3000 years ago to speak to me too, until then I believe what I know, and these keeps changing as time goes. And despite all these, does his grace abide with me or not? Everything the most spirococo person prays and fast for, my Father gives according to my needs, so who dares to contend with me on my belief?

I’m not a catholic, however this latest Pope has impressed me a lot and is very forward thinking! Read my posts; I posted on the need for religion to be brought up to date and into the 21st century, I think backdated religion is man’s greatest problem today; Nigeria is a an exemplary case study!

I am not gay, and would only be flattered if my fellow female made a pass at me, however with a polite decline. Yet, been gay doesn’t mean one can’t be useful in God’s vineyard or can’t be a child of God. The hypocrisy of the Church is laughable!

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Missonas(f): 4:48pm On Sep 12, 2013
theoctopus:

The bible is clear on how God will judge all men. Except you dont believe the bible, which is your choice

I believe His word with all my heart!why not let God be God

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