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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by MrAboki: 4:49pm On Sep 12, 2013
Nigerian movie:

are they perpetual virgins? With each man having 72 of them, the boko boys would have taken all before u reach.
better be fast, grin


The virgins are made in Heaven there..

You will be living next to the factory that produces them.. When once you open one virgin, you can return it to the factory for repairs or replacement... Its an endless supply of Virgins..


Boko Haram people dont go to heaven... They end up in Hell being disvirgined by 72 horni gays.. angry
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mars123(m): 4:49pm On Sep 12, 2013
fr_evangel:

Notice how your post has no scripture foundation but human philosophy?
You have been deceived my friend, receive Jesus and be saved.
and you with all the bible passages in your head have been confused my friend!and its obvious...who even told your sorry self that I don't have jesus in me?
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mko2005: 4:50pm On Sep 12, 2013
endy231: Hi guys,
There are plenty things in the bible ohhhhhh
You cant just read the bible and claim born again by holding to the facts that the bible said that if you dont belief in Jesus you wont see heaven.

Permit to ask these questions again;

Are all the muslims going to end up in hell. (cause they dont belief in Jesus, forget about bokoharam, there are still very good muslims out there)

Are all our ancestors that worshiped idols or other gods all going to end up in hell? (Remember that some of them never had the chance to know about Jesus)

Does it mean that everyone that does good, but does not belief in Jesus, would end up in hell?

Didnt the same bible say that GOD is all merciful. How do u interpret the mercy of God.

There are certain things we shouldnt talk about, if we are not sure.
God is God and he would continue to be God. The ways of God is not like the ways of man. You cant think for God, so keep your suggestions to urself. On that day, we all shall know.

Just like i love telling people, if there is anything not to play with at all in the bible, it is that PHRASE. God is LOVE. Remember the golden rule: Love one another.

Obeying this rule alone, can take you placessssssssssssssssssssss (I never said it would take you to heaven) but God is a fair God.
God is merciful,fair and very very principled ! When Jesus said if you don't believe in HIS words,that you will die in ur sins !
Why didn't Jesus just say well,if you don't believe,it doesn't mean becos i am merciful you will not die in ur sin but make it into heaven ? When He said ''no one cometh to the father except by me'',why didn't he just say,well if you don't believe in me,becos i am merciful i will just allow you go to the father through other sources ?
God is merciful.If God is not merciful HE wouldn't had sent HIS only begotten son to come die for man kind ! Whick kind mercy you dey find again? Simple thing just to believe you said NO and you dey look for mercy !

God help us

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by chy22(m): 4:50pm On Sep 12, 2013
The word 'christian' can best be described as living a christ like life. Then the question is do you really need to be in any church or mosque to live a life free of sins or to love your fellow man?. Your religion has nothing to do with righteous life and making GOD's presence. The church, the mosque and other religious houses are only a place for you to learn how to live a righteous life, just like a school one should be able to get to a stage where he or she needs to graduate and move into the world and live a life of a righteous man and also teach others. Just like the pope said Jesus christ died for all and every body are GOD'S children and he will look at each and every heart according to their deeds, but not their church or religion.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by HUGES: 4:52pm On Sep 12, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:
[size=16pt]HEY POPE GUYY, WE PAGANS DONT BELIEVE IN YOUR IMAGINERY HEAVEN![/size]
. listen guy, i laugh at atheists cos in their very eyes they see mere magic, witchcraft powers and all d tins ppl frm d occult do, as well as xtian miracles and u guys still doubt that their is a spiritual world. Now if u believe dat their is a realm other than ours frm wher al thez spiritual stuff are being done, why then do u refuse to see dat God is d BOSS of dat realm. A little trial will convince u dat their is a realm other than dis physical world. Jst go to TB Joshua church and let him touch u weda u will still have mouth to talk ur sense or evn recognis urself. No offense, but Nigerian atheists ar d most pathetic, cos in their vry eyes dey see spiritual stuff and dey say na lie. Lols
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:54pm On Sep 12, 2013
tsmith:

Yes, I support him.

Call me a radical Christian, but my experiences in life have shaped me and my belief. I believe in God, because I have personally experienced in and have a 1 on 1 relationship with him. I believe in Jesus Christ & the bible (to some extent) because that these have been indoctrinated into me and fed my belief. But I do not believe Christianity is the only way to God.


At this point it is safe to say you are not saved and in darkness. Worse still you have been deceived.
Receive Jesus Christ as Lord and accept remission of sins. I say this out of a genuine concern for you.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by MrAboki: 4:56pm On Sep 12, 2013
HUGE_S: . listen guy, i laugh at atheists cos in their very eyes they see mere magic, witchcraft powers and all d tins ppl frm d occult do, as well as xtian miracles and u guys still doubt that their is a spiritual world. Now if u believe dat their is a realm other than ours frm wher al thez spiritual stuff are being done, why then do u refuse to see dat God is d BOSS of dat realm. A little trial will convince u dat their is a realm other than dis physical world. Jst go to TB Joshua church and let him touch u weda u will still have mouth to talk ur sense or evn recognis urself. No offense, but Nigerian atheists ar d most pathetic, cos in their vry eyes dey see spiritual stuff and dey say na lie. Lols



I pity you the most...


We all walk by faith and not by sight.

You walk in the faith that says you believe in Heaven, fairys, Unicorns and Peter Pan..
Atheist believe that what you believe in does not exist..


They are both based on the same principle which is 'Lack of proof'..
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:57pm On Sep 12, 2013
mars123: and you with all the bible passages in your head have been confused my friend!and its obvious...who even told your sorry self that I don't have jesus in me?
This is not a fight really. It is a choice, I'm only calling you to salvation. God loves you and I love you too.
I pray for you.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by italo: 4:58pm On Sep 12, 2013
Oh! That child that was bombed in Syria is going to hell?

idnoble135: Nobody will make heaven without going through Jesus.
#Bewareoftheleavenofthisfolks
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by ajf(m): 4:58pm On Sep 12, 2013
Mr Aboki:


They are renewable..

Remember that you are in Heaven. Everything is possible.. Just take your disvirgined Biitch back to the warehouse and they will repair her and return her to your house.. Its like MTN.. Your credit finishes, just recharge and keep going.. grin


Dont dull yaself... Port to Islam now. Every Muslim Man is entitled to 72 Virgins as part of their eternal fundamental human right.. More can be added unto you depending on how faithful you were to ALLAH on earth.
What about the women? 72 youthful Virgin boys to shine dia beaver?? I don't like the way people leave out women in Islam lol......
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by tsmith(f): 4:59pm On Sep 12, 2013
fr_evangel:

At this point it is safe to say you are not saved and in darkness. Worse still you have been deceived.
Receive Jesus Christ as Lord and accept remission of sins.

i laugh in Greece!!!

So what makes you better than me? Using every yardstick possible:

Heavenly - I'm rest assured I'd make heaven ahead of you!!!
Spiritually - i bet you still run to pastor to bless you, your child, work and for prayers. I pray myself to God and I get answers
Earthly - I also bet many things you are yet to dream of or attempt, I already have, because i believe! Prescence; secured. Future secured! Nepa sef, secured! And you are here saying someone is in darkness? abeg, go top up your 'i better pass my neighbour' with petrol
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by samuelfemo(m): 5:00pm On Sep 12, 2013
nedu2000: The pope is pleasing man instead of God,the pope is WRONG....for the bible says,which I believe the pope uses as reference "except a man be born again he won't (even) see the kingdom of God [John3:3].......И̣̣̣̥o pope,cardinal or pastor can convince me otherwise
GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by italo: 5:01pm On Sep 12, 2013
Are you sure you heard well. I have never heard that from any Catholic, much less reverend sisters.

Bludeville:
Erm,personally, i didn't think they would but i remember my catechism teachers, who happened to be reverend sisters telling me that all non Catholics will go to hell. I'm relieved to know that this is not the true catholic doctrine. The Catholic church really needs to ensure their teachers really know what they should be teaching.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by kennosklint(m): 5:01pm On Sep 12, 2013
dis pope is 1000 years back in christianity.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Emenaheify: 5:02pm On Sep 12, 2013
"Dont let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from supernatural powers of this world rather than from Christ, for in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body" Col.2:8-9.

You dont need anyone to tell you what he thinks you should do to get to heaven. Everything we need is in Christ and it is very much available!
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mars123(m): 5:03pm On Sep 12, 2013
fr_evangel:
This is not a fight really. It is a choice, I'm only calling you to salvation. God loves you and I love you too.
I pray for you.
God loves me for sure,but you pastors,preachers that lack raw basic knowledge always piss me off...pray for yourself most.
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by chuqudy(m): 5:03pm On Sep 12, 2013
woodcook: I am not an expert in religious matter but for those who claimed to be, please are you guys saying that someone who believe in God but does evil will go to heaven in place of an atheist that have a conscience and had no cause to wrong his fellow human?

Until someone comes up with the right answer to my question, then we can have a discussion on the pope's position, other than that I guess we should all go back to our lives and try to be better people.


Em well, people fail to understand that Pope Francis is a Jesuit. Let me help you guys. Jesuits don't see money as we see it. They see money as exactly what it is--a paper. They dont know what is gold. Gold is just a stone. Your costly cars, houses, etc makes no meaning to them. Once you can see a means of transport, a place to lay your head, something to eat and be healthy, you should be okay. I heard of a Jesuit priest that carried a masqurade to a church. He said that people fear masqurade and associate it with satan but according to him, masqurade is nothing but a carved wood worn by a mere human beign. I also heard of a Catholic bishop who refused to welcome a visiting Jesuit priest to his diocese because he(bishop) sees Jesuits as strange people. Jesuits don't see life as any ordinary person sees life. They understand life exactly the way it is. According to a book written by a Jesuit, "we don't need a TV to be alive, not a car, nor house, nor money etc. Afterall our ancestors lived happily without those things. All your fame, your money, your power, etc are non existent things. Nothing has the power to make you sad or even happy." The book went further to say that "if you are happy when people say good things about you, you should also be prepared to be sad when they say bad things about you." The book also said that "if one says 'without God I cannot be happy', then that "God" the person is talking about is a product of the persons imagination and does not exist". God has given you everything that can make you happy. People are sad because they have made themselves slaves to some persons, material things and their imaginations"

Jesuits have made me to understand life exactly as it is. Nothing can make me sad nor happy. My happiness should not be dependent on any thing. I just have to be happy whether good or bad because everything is vanity. Jesus once asked a question. Who is better among the two servants, one agreed to go for a message but later did not go and the other refused to go for the message but later went?

It was the one that finally did what the master wanted. Many people expect the Pope to say only a Christian would go to heaven where Jesus himself is not even a christian. Abraham, Moses, Elijah, David, Solomon etc were not christians. Jesus said repent or perish and not become a Jehovah witness and co.

iF YOU DO GOOD, kINGDOM IS WAITING FOR YOU. BUT IF YOU ARE A "BORN AGAIN" AND SPEAKS IN "1MILLION TONGUES" AND FALL UNDER ANOINTING BUT WITHOUT LOVE( God is love), NO KINGDOM OF GOD IS WAITING FOR YOU.
Jesus will deny you on the last day if you opress the poor and the less priviledge. He will deny you even if you are a pastor, priest, pope, imam, general overseer, bishop etc if you neglect the poor. The wicked will ask Jesus "when did we see you hungry and did not give you food. When did we see you in prison but did not visit you etc" You know the answer.

If our so called "good and true christians" can do just what Christ wants, there would be no ASUU strike. The president and many of our politicians are "born again" and recieves blessings and prayers from many "men of God" and yet our country is confused. USA is made up of many atheists and yet things are better and the less priviledged are cared for. What an irony.

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mko2005: 5:03pm On Sep 12, 2013
tsmith:

I posted on the need for religion to be brought up to date and into the 21st century, [/b]I think backdated religion is man’s greatest problem today; Nigeria is a an exemplary case study!

I am not gay, and would only be flattered if my fellow female made a pass at me, however with a polite decline. Yet, been gay doesn’t mean one can’t be useful in God’s vineyard or can’t be a child of God. The hypocrisy of the Church is laughable!
[b]Religion can be updated but not the word of God ! The word of God does not respect centuries ! It is there and can never change !
Grace does not permit us to lie to people in the name of preaching the grace message.Grace message does not permit sin but shows the mercies of God ! The grace message brings us out of sin not to leave us in sin.How can you tell some one who does not believe in God or HIS son Jesus to ride on becos he/she will make it into heaven after all ? You may be ignorantly aiding people to hell or it may just be that you know you are damned already and want the damnation of others !

God help us
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by flyingdutchman(m): 5:03pm On Sep 12, 2013
fr_evangel:

Signs of the end time and the unveiling of the anti-christ
On spot yo!
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by HUGES: 5:06pm On Sep 12, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:
[size=16pt]HEY POPE GUYY, WE PAGANS DONT BELIEVE IN YOUR IMAGINERY HEAVEN![/size]
Look atheist or pagan guy,mere magic, witchcraft powers and all d tins ppl frm d occult do, as well as xtian miracles and u guys still doubt that their is a spiritual world. Now if u believe dat their is a realm other than ours frm wher al thez spiritual stuff are being done, why then do u refuse to see dat God is d BOSS of dat realm. A little trial will convince u dat their is a realm other than dis physical world. Jst go to TB Joshua church and let him touch u weda u will still have mouth to talk ur sense or evn recognis urself. No offense, but Nigerian atheists ar d most pathetic, cos in their vry eyes dey see spiritual stuff and dey say na lie. Lols
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Nobody: 5:07pm On Sep 12, 2013
The complete truth is that there is nothing like God. Religion has been blindfolding people for far too long. Atheists don't need God mercy nor a pontiff to explain to them what to do. Bwahaha...
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mediachirps(m): 5:07pm On Sep 12, 2013
wolfs under the sheep's clothing
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mko2005: 5:10pm On Sep 12, 2013
tsmith:

i laugh in Greece!!!

So what makes you better than me? Using every yardstick possible:

Heavenly - I'm rest assured I'd make heaven ahead of you!!!
Spiritually - i bet you still run to pastor to bless you, your child, work and for prayers. I pray myself to God and I get answers
Earthly - I also bet many things you are yet to dream of or attempt, I already have, because i believe! Prescence; secured. Future secured! Nepa sef, secured! And you are here saying someone is in darkness? abeg, go top up your 'i better pass my neighbour' with petrol
That young man might hav drawn his conclusion concerning ur person from ur write ups earlier ! So,what you tell him now that you are does not matter any more to him but may be to God ! At this point,any one of you can claim to have anything whether it's true or not we don't know but i think if i want to know i will simply go back to ur previous comments !

God help us
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Jonlafrika(m): 5:14pm On Sep 12, 2013
ITS AMAZING TO SEE THAT ALL ATHEISTS WHO CLAIM GOD DOES NOT EXIST JUMP AT EVERY THREAD ABOUT GOD AND HEAVEN!

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 5:16pm On Sep 12, 2013
tsmith:

i laugh in Greece!!!

So what makes you better than me? Using every yardstick possible:

Heavenly - I'm rest assured I'd make heaven ahead of you!!!
Spiritually - i bet you still run to pastor to bless you, your child, work and for prayers. I pray myself to God and I get answers
Earthly - I also bet many things you are yet to dream of or attempt, I already have, because i believe! Prescence; secured. Future secured! Nepa sef, secured! And you are here saying someone is in darkness? abeg, go top up your 'i better pass my neighbour' with petrol


There is nothing in my post to suggest I said I was better than you especially in earthly things. Why would I do that? I don't know you and it's against the scriptures, see below.
I BEG of you, it has nothing to do with me but that you believe in Jesus Christ the only Saviour.

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast

2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous,boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy

Jas 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 5:16pm On Sep 12, 2013
tsmith:

i laugh in Greece!!!

So what makes you better than me? Using every yardstick possible:

Heavenly - I'm rest assured I'd make heaven ahead of you!!!
Spiritually - i bet you still run to pastor to bless you, your child, work and for prayers. I pray myself to God and I get answers
Earthly - I also bet many things you are yet to dream of or attempt, I already have, because i believe! Prescence; secured. Future secured! Nepa sef, secured! And you are here saying someone is in darkness? abeg, go top up your 'i better pass my neighbour' with petrol


There is nothing in my post to suggest I said I was better than you especially in earthly things. Why would I do that? I don't know you and it's against the scriptures, see below.
I BEG of you, it has nothing to do with me but that you believe in Jesus Christ the only Saviour.

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast

2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous,boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy

Jas 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Cultured(m): 5:17pm On Sep 12, 2013
May the creator whom many call by different names , eg : God , Cosmic Host , Infinite Intelligence , Allah , Yaweh Chukwu , Oluwa etc bless this pope , he's a rare gem amongst his peers in the religious belief system - I wish other religious proponents could take clue from him , perhaps the peace most of us are clamouring for the world populace will be established .

For the christian religious fanatics here who are ranting that the pope has erred , please shut up ! world view of an average christian , especially Nigerian christians are like an average American view about the globe ( earth ) - to an average christian , anyone who does not subscribe to their belief system is a sinner , thus will perish in the presumed hell fire in the afterward ; just like an average American think that their're no other countries or better still normal human beings outside the USA .

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by mko2005: 5:22pm On Sep 12, 2013
chuqudy:


Em well, people fail to understand that Pope Francis is a Jesuit. .
Nothing concern us and Jesuit ! If you like they Jesuit dey go or dey rotary dey go,if you don leave out the word dat one concern you !
I don't live a care free or careless life,i live the life of Jesus and it is neither careless or care free ! The life of Jesus is a life of responsibility and as for me,my Christianity is a response to Jesus ability in my life !

God help us
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by HUGES: 5:24pm On Sep 12, 2013
Nigerian movie:

did Abraham Moses Isaac Jacob Lazarus believe in Jesus? How come they're in heaven??
. After Adam's sin and fall from grace, his generation starting from Cain began to digress from their rshp with GOD and b4 Abrahams generation their wer already hundreds of gods wh men served, such dat d new generation no more knew of d true God their fore father Adam served. So Abraham was d 1st man after d digression dat God revealled HIMSELf to because Abraham did not worship his fathers image gods but did riteously deeds by following his conscience. That is why God like 4ever honoured d man. But his exposition to Abraham was jst d beginning. He was yet to tell d world of His son Jesus who will b incarnated into mortal man to save man. D reason why God emphasises Jesus as d way to salvation is because He Jeus being God dishonoured Himself into being dirty flesh and in d process restore man's hope of eternal life. And here u are wanting to live 4ever, but dont want to acknowledge d Jesus Christ dat made dat possible. Mind u, till tomorow there are ppl on dis earth dat have never heard of God or Jesus His son, and if dey do gud deeds by their conscience they will make heaven. But 4 u and me we mst do gud deeds by conscience but also believe in d tale of God and Jesus else na hell straight bros

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Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 5:24pm On Sep 12, 2013
mars123: God loves me for sure,but you pastors,preachers that lack raw basic knowledge always piss me off...pray for yourself most.

Look not to pastors and preachers, look to the bible. If I have preached any other thing that's not revealed in the bible please discard but if all Isaid I drew you to the bible, check for yourself.

I leave you with this "what will you do with the access to the bible you have?"
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by HUGES: 5:29pm On Sep 12, 2013
omotayokay:

They believe in God, they believe in Jesus....so why would they go to hell?
Yap broo, muslims 'll go to hell cos dey did not accept Jesus as Lord and saviour. Very simple
Re: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by zynzyn(m): 5:30pm On Sep 12, 2013
Fact is, u don't have to believe in God to be a catholic!

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