If you refine crude oil, will you get a new crude oil?
The way you reason makes me laugh o

I laugh because you use a tithe rule that came 400years after Abraham has left the earth to jugde his tithe deed to Melchizedek....u dey try o!
Jesus paid tax, because that was the law of the day, then, they were under Roman rule.

I asked you, why didn't Abraham pay tax to King of Sodom? Abi that king no follow for authentic Kings?

Gombs: ^^
This guy actually believe that after refining crude oil ...You get new crude oil!

Mo Gbe o!

E ma worry egbon mi, aye nse ru ee! Have you forgotten that in naija polimatics if you refine Feee Deee Feee what you'll get is New Feee Deee Feee!
Maybe same applies here according to our dear Barrister! #just_saying

Kenny4lyfe:

E ma worry egbon mi, aye nse ru ee! Have you forgotten that in naija polimatics if you refine Feee Deee Feee what you'll get is New Feee Deee Feee!
Maybe same applies here according to our dear Barrister! #just_saying

Gombs: ^^
This guy actually believe that after refining crude oil ...You get new crude oil!

Mo Gbe o!

BARRISTERS:

SEE MY COMMENT AGAIN IN ITALICS,

NEW CRUDE OIL= SAME LEVI TRIBES PRODUCING NEW PERSONS FROM THEIR TRIBE

PRODUCING NEW PERSON(S) FROM THEIR TRIBE, CAN YOU SEE IT?

ANYTHING PRODUCED FROM CRUDE OIL STILL HAVE THEIR ROOT AS CRUDE OIL, DERIVED FROM CRUDE OIL, YOU CANT REFINE RED OIL FOR EXAMPLE AND HAVE PETROL, OR DIESEL, BUT RATHER ADIN OR ADIN-AGBON, EPO-DUDU ETC, YOU CAN TRACE IT TO ITS ROOT DERIVED FROM PALM TREE.

ARE YOU A JEW? NOW PROVE YOURESELF AS A JEW OF THE TRIBE OF LEVI, REFINED BUT STILL HAVE YOUR ROOT/LINEAGE AS A JEW

Gombs:

Answer me, will you get new crude oil from a refined crude oil?

Yes or No shd be fine

Gombs: Why are you even asking me whether I'm a Jew or a levite?

We are the refined Priests......

And see that it says, that He will accept the offerings of the people of Judah and Jerusalem ONCE AGAIN as he did in the past

Told you I tithe in the faith of Abraham, is Abraham a Jew or Mechizedek a levite?

And see that it says (Mal 3v4), that He will accept the offerings of the people of Judah and Jerusalem ONCE AGAIN as he did in the past.

Question is...why Judah? Why Jerusalem?

The offerings in the latter days will be similar to those when the temple was first built.

Goshen360:

1. Pastors too are full time and some are not BUT have other source of income, doesn't that mean they already have source of income as an inheritance? They should not collect tithe if they have other source of income, the ones who are full time with no source of income should go get one, there's nothing like full time pastor in the new testament. If you found any apostle in full time, show it from scriptures.

2. Tithing had been abolished in the new testament. I'm working on an article to that effect. You have to know what it is in order to know it is abolished. It is an ORDINANCE, A COMMANDMENT and so, it the law of ordinance is disannulled, or the commandment abolished, the question will be, does it include tithe or not?

3. Malachi wasn't written to Christians. The storehouse is not the church neither is devourer devil, devourer is nothing but ant eating insects that devours the farm plants and crops for better harvest. God was dealing with only Jews in Malachi, not the church. Besides, Christ had redeemed from the curses of the law and being made a curse for us.

guiddoti: I'm not here to debate on this issue. I will try and answer your questions
1. Tithing is a commandment with promise. And, if a pastor is not a full time, and has other income, the best scene for him, is to completely use the money for gospel activities without taken a penny, in as much as the pastor has income. It may interest you to know that pastors also pay tithes. So, the money must be wisely used. Pastors will give an account of it on the day of judgement. All the apostles are full time workers. Peter was a fisherman when Jesus called him. Peter never went back fishing.
2. Tithing was never abolished. What was abolished, is just killing of animals, for remission of sin. Jesus came to add to the laws.
3. Who was the bible written to? All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God(christian) may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. Bible is symbolic. I had earlier said that the people at that time are majorly farmers. So what can a farmer brings if not crops. Try and understand how bible uses words. Jesus spoke in parables.
My prayers always are: Lord make your word simple before my eyes. Lord make me see sin the way you see it. Thank You.

guiddoti: I'm not here to debate on this issue. I will try and answer your questions
1. Tithing is a commandment with promise. And, if a pastor is not a full time, and has other income, the best scene for him, is to completely use the money for gospel activities without taken a penny, in as much as the pastor has income. It may interest you to know that pastors also pay tithes. So, the money must be wisely used. Pastors will give an account of it on the day of judgement. All the apostles are full time workers. Peter was a fisherman when Jesus called him. Peter never went back fishing.
2. Tithing was never abolished. What was abolished, is just killing of animals, for remission of sin. Jesus came to add to the laws.
3. Who was the bible written to? All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God(christian) may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. Bible is symbolic. I had earlier said that the people at that time are majorly farmers. So what can a farmer brings if not crops. Try and understand how bible uses words. Jesus spoke in parables.
My prayers always are: Lord make your word simple before my eyes. Lord make me see sin the way you see it. Thank You.

Deuteronomy 14:22-29

New International Version (NIV)
Tithes

22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.

28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.

Kenny4lyfe: Dear Barrister, what do you say about this portion of the Bible in Galatians 3:29,

"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed and heir according to the promise."

We talk about tithing and you guys brought the question of genealogy, do you not know of the priesthood that's in Christ Jesus?

Who do you think God was talking to when He said throught the psalmist in Psalm 110:4 that,

"The Lord hath sworn and will not repent, thou hath a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek."

Jesus the Christ doesn't came to die for the Jew alone; For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son; that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should not perish but have EVERLASTING LIFE. (John 3:16). In christianity there's neither Jew nor Greek. The earlier you accept this the better!

Pastor Kun:

And how does all you wrote here justify ripping off believers of ten percent of their income on a regular basis.

Barrister ni mo nbi ni question oh! Ewo lo kan yin nibe Pastor Kunle?
Did I mention your name in my post or you be Barrister ni?
Abeg park well! Park well!! Park well!!!
Everyone knows you as the Knight of Antithers already and the knight code did state specifically that you don't respond to other's challenge!

Egbon e park segbe kan jaree!

Gombs: Why are you even asking me whether I'm a Jew or a levite?
Told you I tithe in the faith of Abraham, is Abraham a Jew or Mechizedek a levite?

I'm just glad viewers see a perfect example of how folks recycle posts and already answered questions!

I won't reply to any other recycled question!

Kenny4lyfe: #Antithers be like:

Goshen360: Tithe advocates now resort to Abraham tithing by faith. They don't even understand what it means that if we are of faith, we are seed of Abraham according to promised Christ BECAUSE WE HAVE FAITH IN CHRIST WHICH IS THE PROMISED SEED OF ABRAHAM.

LISTEN, only faith connects a believer to Abraham THROUGH CHRIST and nothing more. Abraham is a two-fold man, a patriarch of Jewish nation and father (spiritual) of us who are of faith.

If you teaching Abraham as Christian example OTHER THAN FAITH CONNECTION THROUGH SEED OF CHRIST, you teach we should also do some crazy stuffs Abraham did.

Kenny4lyfe: #Antithers be like:

Goshen360: @ Gombs,

How did Christians be 'priests and kings' in the new testament and how were the priesthood of old testament came to be?

Kenny4lyfe: #Antithers be like:

Goshen360:
Tithe advocates now resort to Abraham
tithing by faith. They don't even understand what it
means that if we are of faith, we are seed of
Abraham according to promised Christ BECAUSE
WE HAVE FAITH IN CHRIST WHICH IS THE
PROMISED SEED OF ABRAHAM.
LISTEN, only faith connects a believer to Abraham
THROUGH CHRIST and nothing more. Abraham is a
two-fold man, a patriarch of Jewish nation and
father (spiritual) of us who are of faith.
If you teaching Abraham as Christian example OTHER
THAN FAITH CONNECTION THROUGH SEED OF
CHRIST, you teach we should also do some crazy
stuffs Abraham did.

Goshen360:

As if you people who advocate tithe have not been shooting yourselves in the leg too.

Imagine someone like Gombs saying Christians should follow Abraham tithing example. Someone went to war and he didn't give tithe BY CHOICE and you telling us giving the rest 90% is by CHOICE because it is freewill.

What kind of deception is that, THAT SAME PERSON DIDN'T HAVE CHOICE TO GIVE TITHE BUT HAVE CHOICE TO GIVE THE REST 90% FROM SAME ITEMS RECOVERED FROM WAR?

What made 90% a choice but doesn't make 10% choice?

Gombs:




Chai
Where is Emmanuel Bassey sef? AKA Christembassey

He must be around somewhere!

Gombs:


You can't even give 10% sef, why worry about the remaining 90%?

Why didn't Abraham give 50% why did moses after 400years did not say 5% or 2%...but 10%?

Gombs:


You can't even give 10% sef, why worry about the remaining 90%?

Why didn't Abraham give 50% why did moses after 400years did not say 5% or 2%...but 10%?

Kenny4lyfe:

He must be around somewhere!

Gombs:

Yeah! After Bidam resurrected his thread where he wants us to give 1k to help build churches in the North...and help Christians thr....I've not been noticing him around!

He was sore Bidam raised the thread up!



Kunle has been a lot careful not to shoot his foot. All anti tithers have shot themselves on the foot, esp Goshen. It's almost like Goshen shoots his leg for sport