Goshen360:

Abeg stop this unwashed teeth being outside all the time. Explain what I wanted you explain.

Goshen360:

1. Pastors too are full time and some are not BUT have other source of income, doesn't that mean they already have source of income as an inheritance? They should not collect tithe [size=16pt]if they have other source of income, the ones who are full time with no source of income should go get one, there's nothing like full time pastor in the new testament[/size]. If you found any apostle in full time, show it from scriptures.

Gombs:

You never wash beans first, yet you come dey percive the smell of moi moi


Start giving the 10% first, after that, the answer to the other 90% would fall in place.

Let me don't remove my unwashed teeth outside o! Time don dey reach for anti tithers to switch to plan B!

Gombs:

Yeah! After Bidam resurrected his thread where he wants us to give 1k to help build churches in the North...and help Christians thr....I've not been noticing him around!

He was sore Bidam raised the thread up!

Goshen360:

RUBBISH!!!

I had figured out for long you can't answer to intelligent questioning simply because you have nothing to say.

The only reason you've been going free with what you say is I don't have time for you but perhaps you figured out I have time for you today so you playing games to distract the questioning.

Whatever, suit yourself but I'm here waiting.

Bidam: That is how to run the devils out of town.

Gombs:

You have time now?

Oya answer why you said Melchizedek is long dead and another place you said he is a priest forever

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Bidam:
1 Corinthians 9
13 Do you not know that those men who are employed in the services of the temple get their food from the temple? And that those who tend the altar share with the altar [in the offerings brought]?

14 [size=16pt][On the same principle][/size] the Lord directed that those who publish the good news (the Gospel) should live (get their maintenance) by the Gospel.

14 In the same way the [size=16pt]Lord has given orders[/size] that those who preach the Gospel should be supported by those who accept it.(TLB).

1 Timothy 5:17
Living Bible (TLB)

17 Pastors who do their work well should be paid well and should be highly appreciated, especially those who work hard at both preaching and teaching.

ajayikayod:

Great, agreed. But dt support for new creation leaders doesnt mean tithe.

Goshen360:

Scripture says every man is born of a woman except Adam,

that was created. Scripture says melchizedek was a man. If he wasn't born by a woman,
then tell us where he came from to be a KING OF SALEM. Salem is a location and a KING there had to be human being.

Without death record in the chronicles is what made him 'believed' he lived forever.

Even Christ had a death record and birth record. If melchi is not dead, tell us where he still lives in Salem please.

PS: Are you ready to answer my question, otherwise, you will be joking and I won't waste my time joking with you here.

ajayikayod:

Great, agreed. But dt support for new creation leaders doesnt mean tithe.

Gombs:

Pls provide me with a Book chapter and Verse pls

However, Jesus said


Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist.


He said AMONG THOSE not CERTAINLY ALL MEN ARE...what does the phrase "AMONG THOSE" mean to you?

Obviously Jesus knew not all men were born of women

Gombs:


You don't get d point do you?

Goshen saiD there is NO place in the New Testament where there was a full time pastor


He is yet to tell me John and Peter's trade or Timothy's etc

ajayikayod:
New Living Translation
"I tell you the truth, of all who have ever lived, none is greater than John the Baptist. Yet even the least person in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he is!

Living Bible (TLB)
In all humanity there is no one greater than John. And yet the least citizen of the Kingdom of God is greater than he.”

Contemporary English Version (CEV)
No one ever born on this earth is greater than John. But whoever is least important in God’s kingdom is greater than John.

The Message (MSG)
“Let me lay it out for you as plainly as I can: No one in history surpasses John the Baptizer, but in the kingdom he prepared you for, the lowliest person is ahead of him.

Several more.

Oyinprince: I just dex laugh all this agbalagba 4 here... Chai !

ajayikayod:

Great, agreed. But dt support for new creation leaders doesnt mean tithe.

Gombs:


You don't get d point do you?

Goshen saiD there is NO place in the New Testament where there was a full time pastor


He is yet to tell me John and Peter's trade or Timothy's etc

Gombs:

Dint you read Melchizedek was never born?

Oya quick quiz...Gen 6 said "the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were attractive n took em as wives



Pls, were those guys born of Women?
Were they no part of humanity?
Where they 'Born on earth'?

The bible verse above said "Lived" ...Melchizedek 'Lives' not 'Lived'...

Don't be like Goshen na, punching the air!

Gombs:

Hello sir, you must be new here! Thank you for your conviction on tithing. However, never be swayed by any doctrine that discourages a form of giving to God. Never subscribe to it. Why? Because the Devil WILL NEVER tempt you to give in the House of God.

As regards trying to convince anybody who disagrees with tithing, you would just end up wasting your time.

What Goshen is telling you has been treated in over 1000pages of NL tithe threads. What Barrister and truthslight is asking me has been answered on this thread. All they do is recycle their post and questions.
That's why I leave viewers to decide on what road they wanna thread

For example, I've told him Jesus and his disciples left their Jobs and was in full time ministry...I asked him, whr did the monies that was in Judas' bag come from?
And he just said their was nothing like full time pastor in the New testament. I hope he could tell me what trade Peter and John had after following Jesus.

The good part of it all though is, they always find a way of shooting themselves in the foot
There is always inconsistency with them. For example, Goshen here said Melchizek was born of a woman and man, just that the bible did not record it! He also said the man was/is long dead and never resurected totally against what the bible said that Melchizedek has no beginning of day nor end of life.

www.nairaland.com/1456343/tithes-offerings-eternal-principles/22

But years back, same Goshen said Melchizedek had NO genealogical
Line and he is a priest forever.

www.nairaland.com/903159/really-melchizedek
(Hope he doesn't go and edit the post I don screen grab am sha )

In this thread, Drummerboy said Melchizedek had a 'religious capacity' , I asked him what religion? He also said Melchizedek is from the Order of Jesus!

Another folk here said Melchizedek was a king and was entitled to a tax, a tax which Abraham paid as tithe

Goshen also said Mal 3 was not for Christians even after it has been explained that the new creation folks were the refined priests Mal 3 was talking about. And how mal 3 talked about things of today!

I could go on and on and name the rest folks...

Why are they always inconsistent? Because, Jesus said whatsoever that is not planted by my father shall be uprooted! They can't keep consistency on what they say because it is not founded on the Word of God which is same yesterday, today and forever!
Ok, let's just say they made mistakes as in they didn't study well! (imagine)
They sadly fulfill this scripture
Romans 1 Amp

22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].

I could go on and on. But, all I wanna say is, hold fast to what you believe in, hundreds of million of people who tithe are not dumb or less studious of the bible or too stoopid to think that tithing is abolished.


if you wanna argue with them, as you are new here, be careful, or to stay on the safe side, ignore them and watch them from afar. they will lay a snare for you, and when you fall, they will use it against your stand.

And nearly all anti tithers have something in common ...they might later on insult you and all they can lay hands on as the thread goes on. Its a prophecy from me!

Anyways! Have a happy sunday. And remain blessed.t keep consistency on what they say because it is not founded on the Word of God which is same yesterday, today and forever!
Ok, let

Bidam: Dem don agree,,DEM JUST THEY SHIFT THE POST NA

ajayikayod:

Great, agreed. But dt support for new creation leaders doesnt mean tithe.

You just shot yourself in the foot buddy! Ouch!

ajayikayod:

King James Version (KJV)
Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Amplified Bible (AMP)
Without [record of] father or mother or ancestral line, neither with beginning of days nor ending of life, but, resembling the Son of God, he continues to be a priest without interruption and without successor.

The Message (MSG)
” So, he is also “King of Peace.” Melchizedek towers out of the past—without record of family ties, no account of beginning or end. In this way he is like the Son of God, one huge priestly presence dominating the landscape always.

Contemporary English Version (CEV)
We are not told that he had a father or mother or ancestors or beginning or end. He is like the Son of God and will be a priest forever.

Gombs: Why are you even asking me whether I'm a Jew or a levite?
Told you I tithe in the faith of Abraham, is Abraham a Jew or Mechizedek a levite?

I'm just glad viewers see a perfect example of how folks recycle posts and already answered questions!

I won't reply to any other recycled question!

Goshen360:

You n who agree FOR TITHE?

We agree a minister of God should be supported

BUT NOT BY TITHE.

What is it you don't understand about that?

Goshen360:

You n who agree FOR TITHE? We agree a minister of God should be supported BUT NOT BY TITHE. What is it you don't understand about that?

ajayikayod::


Great, agreed. But dt support for new creation leaders doesnt mean tithe.

Kenny4lyfe:

You just shot yourself in the foot buddy! Ouch!

truthislight:

It is either you shut up or you start giving scriptural evidence for all this your lawlessness, else you get what you rightly deserve because a theif should be call a their without fear or fevou to protect others.

So, can you start showing where the bible says that christians should "tithe in the faith of Abraham" ? Please do, else, you are a lawless fellow.

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" (Isaiah 5:20).
...............

I know your type.

Wow!
We got some real doomsday preacher in the house!
As for the Isaiah you just quoted, you might not know it but there's lot in there that refers to you than anyone else on this thread! You having the zeal for God's kingdom without knowledge; standing against the very same principle you live for! Isn't that like putting light for darkness? Mtcheeewwww!

Kenny4lyfe:

Your uniqueness problem is you and your fellow antithiters never accept defeat! Keep shooting yourself in the foot. God is watching you in 3D!