Viper:

Seun, your posts make me laugh. You question like a lost child.

Typical, if you don't have an adequate response, just delve up an ad hominem.

Viper:

Why not open your bible and ask it this questions so it will answer you ,

You won't find many answers there, only more confusion, unless of course you put your brain in limbo (excuse me my Catholic [/i]lingo )

Viper:

rather than this-credit the creator and put yourself into un-necessary trouble.

Give some solid evidence for the existence of that creator, before you presuppose his existence. You're babbling.

Viper:

Same goes for K2.(i know who u are)

Scare tactics? I wonder if it's any better than the usual [i]lying for Jesus^(tm)

nferyn:

Typical, if you don't have an adequate response, just delve up an ad hominem.
You won't find many answers there, only more confusion, unless of course you put your brain in limbo (excuse me my Catholic [/i]lingo )
Give some solid evidence for the existence of that creator, before you presuppose his existence. You're babbling.
Scare tactics? I wonder if it's any better than the usual [i]lying for Jesus^(tm)

I dont need to scare you. It's your life to decide, lol , do what you like with it.
I should give you evidence that God exists? Give me an evidence that you dreamt, or of what you dreamt about last nite or that humans dream?
Definitely, the bible will cloud itself fromyou when you read it to find faults.God is not beggin you anymore go and read revelation 22 properly. if you like, be with him, if you like, be against him, that is your cup of cappuchino.

This is a discussion forum. If you don't want to discuss the issue at hand, don't post!

Seun:

This is a discussion forum. If you don't want to discuss the issue at hand, don't post!

Boy, I am discussing, but with questions.

we create evil by our self with all kind of sins that we are making

Put it this way, can anything exist outside of God's knowledge? The answer is obviously no, and that would include evil. God was aware of the potential and extent of evil, but His angels and other intelligent creation weren't.

Does this mean that God created evil in the manner in which we are thinking, based on our limited knowledge of how evil or sin operates? The answer is no. God didn't create evil in the sense that He is responsible for all we are seeing now in terms of effects.

When God created the universe there was no evil in substance, or in practice, but only in potential. The potential of it could have only manifested based on His creatures' choice, or free will. With God knowing all these variables, He laid out the necessary means to protect His creation from sin and evil through a system built on love and justice, long before such creation of life ocurred, be they angels, other intelligent creation, or humans. As a result God made available a choice to obey or disobey, hence His intelligent creation had to be aware of the potential of evil that could only have manifested through selfishness.

So the onous would now rests with His creation not to make the wrong choices. It so happened that one such angel challenged the system, and decieved 1/3 of God's angels to rebell. The chief ringleader who was called Lucifer, was responsible in testing the first human couple into falling for the same deception he invented in heaven. It is he who is still decieving many in the world today, through his army of demons.

God since that time has been pleading to His creation to stay on the side of justice and love, and to resist pride and selfishness. In the fulness of time His Son came as a sacrifice to save those who would accept His father's plan to restore love, righteousness and justice.

God didn't force us to sin, so He cannot be blamed.

[b][/color][/b][color=#770077]Absolutely agree: it is interesting that christians ignore what their own 'holy book' states. If one examines Isaiah 45:5-7, the reader comes across a 'god' disclosure that states god is the creator of good and evil. [font=apple chancery Unicode][/font]

CALL ME AND I WILL TELL YOU WHO CREATED EVIL BUT PROMISE ME ONE THING YOU WONT TELL GOD THAT I LEAKED HEAVENLY SECRETE TO YOU. PROMISE.

why should God be to blame for evil?!!
if u plant 5 stalks of cassava and four of them grew well and one doesnt and u implemented the same cultivation practices, watering, fertilizer application, will u be to blame for that one that did not grow well?
if u have a 2 dogs and one attacks an innocent bystander, will u be to blame for your Dog?
is God to blame for those touts in Niger Delta?!!!
come on!
please ppl, straighten yourselves out and dont blame God for the evils of the world because no matter how hard u try, some things or people will always go bad, speak of free will,

It's simple. He created evil, so its his fault.

How the hell can these Christians somehow try to get around it? THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT!

Simple logic. There's nothing to talk about.

God is not the author of evil. Go and study, if you need help simply call for it.

But don't you also contend he created EVERYTHING?

If God is omnibenevolent how can evil exist?

If he's responsible for everything then he's responsible for evil. Simple.

Always making these ludicrous exceptions but if we were talking about another God we wouldnt even be going this far into this subject.

solosimple:

God is not the author of evil. Go and study, if you need help simply call for it.

the bible says that the bible god created evil. . . .

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

According to Isaiah 45:7 the Lord that you go to church and worship every Sunday created evil:

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things".

There are no such things as "good" or "evil". Things happen, and whether they are "good" or "evil" depends on context. The whole idea of God setting out a set of rules and regulations that are to be followed literally is kinda ridiculous.

but thats a whole other debate,  haha,  not interested in putting my self thru that any time soon. Alleluia 

The person wishing ogun to kill people's mothers and asking if Eve was a faulty product, should check this thread.

Bobbyaf:
Put it this way, can anything exist outside of God's knowledge? The answer is obviously no, and that would include evil. God was aware of the potential and extent of evil, but His angels and other intelligent creation weren't.

Does this mean that God created evil in the manner in which we are thinking, based on our limited knowledge of how evil or sin operates? The answer is no. God didn't create evil in the sense that He is responsible for all we are seeing now in terms of effects.

When God created the universe there was no evil in substance, or in practice, but only in potential. The potential of it could have only manifested based on His creatures' choice, or free will. With God knowing all these variables, He laid out the necessary means to protect His creation from sin and evil through a system built on love and justice, long before such creation of life ocurred, be they angels, other intelligent creation, or humans. As a result God made available a choice to obey or disobey, hence His intelligent creation had to be aware of the potential of evil that could only have manifested through selfishness.

So the onous would now rests with His creation not to make the wrong choices. It so happened that one such angel challenged the system, and decieved 1/3 of God's angels to rebell. The chief ringleader who was called Lucifer, was responsible in testing the first human couple into falling for the same deception he invented in heaven. It is he who is still decieving many in the world today, through his army of demons.

God since that time has been pleading to His creation to stay on the side of justice and love, and to resist pride and selfishness. In the fulness of time His Son came as a sacrifice to save those who would accept His father's plan to restore love, righteousness and justice.

God didn't force us to sin, so He cannot be blamed.

So why did god create evil? Not only that, when he was creating man he gave man desire to do evil, be s sexual and look for knowledge, also god gave us weakness.. why did he he give us all this?