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Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by italo: 6:07pm On Nov 20, 2013
vickyO:
do you understand my post at all?? I said some things, not all things....

Is it possible that you could be misunderstanding even one of those things you say are plainly stated in scriptures?

Or are you perfect with those and can not possibly misinterprete them?
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by Boomark(m): 6:07pm On Nov 20, 2013
Sal C: The word Paul used in 2thes 2V15 is "we" not "I" signifying he wasn't just referring to his writings and oral teachings but that of the apostles and teachers of their time.

Today, we do not have the teachings of all the apostles in writing but the obvious thing here is they actually taught people( possibly oral traditions).

For instance, Philip went to ethiopia and taught the people, we don't have his letters to them ( if he actually wrote any) but we know he taught then( possibly orally). If this people carry on with his teachings, which are not written, that's oral tradition.

Let me also state that most of the teachings we have in the bible today starting from the old testament, were initially practice as oral tradition.

I see! I was even limiting myself to Paul. Even Peter, James, john and in Revelation, non of them mentioned the tradition of worshipping Mary and giving the glory that belongs to God to her.

Why? Because they were preaching Christ crucified. That is the foundation of Christianity and their traditions. It is not chaplet 'Maryfied' as your church preach.

So you don't even know what Phillip taught the ethiopian orally and you think it is about praising Mary? He taught the ethiopian who was reading Isaiah about Christ. Go and read your bible. Wherever they go they preach Christ to the glory of and in union with the Father.

Go and tell the Israelites that the law of Moses(which is written), God gave to them was oral traditions, let me see if they will not stone to death. Don't you feel your ignorance? SMH!!!
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 6:36pm On Nov 20, 2013
italo:

Is it possible that you could be misunderstanding even one of those things you say are plainly stated in scriptures?

Or are you perfect with those and can not possibly misinterprete them?
Testing these doctrines stated by the original poster with the Bible, you'll see that they are not in line. I don't make doctrines, I test them with the scriptures............... Bowing to the image of mary, Chanting prayers like the heathen do, Making images of all sort, and redefining prayer.... these things have been made plain in the Bible as wrong........
or if you still disagree, back up your doctrines as stated by the op with the Bible.
and yes I am sure about it.
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by Nobody: 6:57pm On Nov 20, 2013
vickyO:
Testing these doctrines stated by the original poster with the Bible, you'll see that they are not in line. I don't make doctrines, I test them with the scriptures............... Bowing to the image of mary, Chanting prayers like the heathen do, Making images of all sort, and redefining prayer.... these things have been made plain in the Bible as wrong........
or if you still disagree, back up your doctrines as stated by the op with the Bible.
and yes I am sure about it.

You have so far failed to back up your sola bible doctrine and fire prayer chants with the bible
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 7:11pm On Nov 20, 2013
Jesus told us to pray in his name to the father, and that we do.
chukwudi44:

You have so far failed to back up your sola bible doctrine and fire prayer chants with the bible
what is sola bible? and they don't chant fire, ignoramus... they pray and at times fire is included in the prayer points.
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by Nobody: 7:13pm On Nov 20, 2013
vickyO: Jesus told us to pray in his name to the father, and that we do.

what is sola bible? and they don't chant fire, ignoramus... they pray and at times fire is included in the prayer points.

Did Jesus teach you to shout like a mad man when praying? Sola bible is the protestant doctrine which states that every matters. Of christian faith must be in the bible.Thhe doctrine has no biblical basis and is not found anywhere in the bible but rather a human tradition created by Martin Luther
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 7:19pm On Nov 20, 2013
chukwudi44:

Did Jesus teach you to shout like a mad man
Have you been deranged? why would you call people mad?
have you ever attended any service organized by Pentecostal churches?
do they all pray aggressively?
It's your choice the gestures you decide to use when praying. Were Paul and Silas whispering in the prison, Did Jesus whisper to Lazarus.... all that matters is praying only through this channel: Jesus.
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 7:25pm On Nov 20, 2013
chukwudi44:

Did Jesus teach you to shout like a mad man when praying? Sola bible is the protestant doctrine which states that every matters. Of christian faith must be in the bible.Thhe doctrine has no biblical basis and is not found anywhere in the bible but rather a human tradition created by Martin Luther
II Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
there it is for the sola Bible
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by SalC: 8:06pm On Nov 20, 2013
Boomark:

I see! I was even limiting myself to Paul. Even Peter, James, john and in Revelation, non of them mentioned the tradition of worshipping Mary and giving the glory that belongs to God to her.

Why? Because they were preaching Christ crucified. That is the foundation of Christianity and their traditions. It is not chaplet 'Maryfied' as your church preach.

So you don't even know what Phillip taught the ethiopian orally and you think it is about praising Mary? He taught the ethiopian who was reading Isaiah about Christ. Go and read your bible. Wherever they go they preach Christ to the glory of and in union with the Father.

Go and tell the Israelites that the law of Moses(which is written), God gave to them was oral traditions, let me see if they will not stone to death. Don't you feel your ignorance? SMH!!!
If actually you worship Mary or give her the glory that belong to God, then that is your problem not mine.

If you are truthful to yourself, you won't deliberately change the ethiopia I wrote to ethiopian just to make the case that suit you.

I still stand on my word that most of the old testament practices are passed down through oral tradition before they became written.

So you can shake your head again or prove me wrong.
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by Acidosis(m): 8:18pm On Nov 20, 2013
www.nairaland.com/1525118/rosary-consists-53-repetitious-prayers

The Rosary consists of 53 repetitious prayers to Mary, 6 to God, 6 To the Trinity (God, Jesus & Holy spirit).

in our quest to save 1million innocent Catholics in Nigeria
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by Mintayo(m): 9:09pm On Nov 20, 2013
Acidosis:
www.nairaland.com/1525118/rosary-consists-53-repetitious-prayers

The Rosary consists of 53 repetitious prayers to Mary, 6 to God, 6 To the Trinity (God, Jesus & Holy spirit).

in our quest to save 1million innocent Catholics in Nigeria
I think i want to join-in in this quest,i have seen the deceit behind catholism and i believe people should be fred!
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by Lilamartedi(f): 9:13pm On Nov 20, 2013
Mintayo:
I think i want to join-in in this quest,i have seen the deceit behind catholism and i believe people should be fred!
Who are u to see the deceit in some one's mode of worship? Worry about yourself b4 worrying about others

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Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by Mintayo(m): 9:17pm On Nov 20, 2013
Lila_martedi: Who are u to see the deceit in some one's mode of worship? Worry about yourself b4 worrying about others
True dear,i worry so much abt myself,i check myself each day and ensure that i please God by His help and do things ACCORDING TO HIS Words...its not by strenght or by will or by praying the rosary or by anything outside the Word of God.

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Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by Acidosis(m): 9:23pm On Nov 20, 2013
Mintayo:
I think i want to join-in in this quest,i have seen the deceit behind catholism and i believe people should be fred!

Thanks alot sir.
We are on it.

This is just one of the platforms for the first phase..
We'll respond to your request accordingly
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by try69: 9:33pm On Nov 20, 2013
Mintayo:
True dear,i worry so much abt myself,i check myself each day and ensure that i please God by His help and do things ACCORDING TO HIS Words...its not by strenght or by will or by praying the rosary or by anything outside the Word of God.

No longer the words of scripture but the word of God Funny people

u check urself everyday and declare yourself holy just as the pharisees do.

REMOVE THE LOG ON YOUR EYES FIRST!
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 9:58pm On Nov 20, 2013
Acidosis:
www.nairaland.com/1525118/rosary-consists-53-repetitious-prayers

The Rosary consists of 53 repetitious prayers to Mary, 6 to God, 6 To the Trinity (God, Jesus & Holy spirit).

in our quest to save 1million innocent Catholics in Nigeria
Imagine that. praying to Mary.....read this
Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
John 16:23
.....whatsoever ye shall ask the father IN MY NAME, He shall give it to you.
John 4:24
God is spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth

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Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by Acidosis(m): 10:00pm On Nov 20, 2013
^ ^ God bless you
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 10:18pm On Nov 20, 2013
try69:

No longer the words of scripture but the word of God Funny people

u check urself everyday and declare yourself holy just as the pharisees do.

REMOVE THE LOG ON YOUR EYES FIRST!
The scriptures is the Bible and the Bible is the Word of God.
scrip·ture [skrípchər]
(plural scrip·tures) or Scrip·ture [skrípchər] (plural Scrip·tures)
noun
1. biblical writings: the sacred writings of the Bible
2. biblical text: a passage from the Bible

Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved
.

ok now, the Bible admonishes us to do the following:
Ephesians 5:10
Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
I Thessalonians 5:21
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by POPEII: 12:06am On Nov 21, 2013
vickyO:
Imagine that. praying to Mary.....read this
Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
John 16:23
.....whatsoever ye shall ask the father IN MY NAME, He shall give it to you.
John 4:24
God is spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth


Your heresies will never cease to amaze, who are you to say when it is vain? What on earth makes you think our prayers are vain ? Should we get tired to praise the world? You heretics are straight hypocrites , you see nothing wrong with your fire fire fire x1000 , your alleluhia alleluhia x1000, in Jesus name etc , but you dare point fingers?
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by POPEII: 12:07am On Nov 21, 2013
Acidosis:

Thanks alot sir.
We are on it.

This is just one of the platforms for the first phase..
We'll respond to your request accordingly

the you wake up
Heretic jokers ah ah
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by POPEII: 12:10am On Nov 21, 2013
Mintayo:
True dear,i worry so much abt myself,i check myself each day and ensure that i please God by His help and do things ACCORDING TO HIS Words...its not by strenght or by will or by praying the rosary or by anything outside the Word of God.
you and Vicky ran away please let me ask you again(acidosis can help you )

Where are the scriptures that condemn the rosary?

Were/are Elijah and Enoch divinity ? Your heretic sister(Vicky) claims that only Divinity can ascend
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by POPEII: 12:11am On Nov 21, 2013
try69:

No longer the words of scripture but the word of God Funny people

u check urself everyday and declare yourself holy just as the pharisees do.

REMOVE THE LOG ON YOUR EYES FIRST!
don't mind that confused and lost soul
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by POPEII: 12:11am On Nov 21, 2013
Lila_martedi: Who are u to see the deceit in some one's mode of worship? Worry about yourself b4 worrying about others
sister I tire ooo
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by POPEII: 12:13am On Nov 21, 2013
Mintayo:
I think i want to join-in in this quest,i have seen the deceit behind catholism and i believe people should be fred!
a heretic want to salve others? Abeg work on your own salvation , or you think you have already made it to the heaven?
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by POPEII: 12:14am On Nov 21, 2013
Acidosis:
www.nairaland.com/1525118/rosary-consists-53-repetitious-prayers

The Rosary consists of 53 repetitious prayers to Mary, 6 to God, 6 To the Trinity (God, Jesus & Holy spirit).

in our quest to save 1million innocent Catholics in Nigeria
most of you heretics think the beads are the rosary, so before embarking on your stupid and useless quest you guys should get educated .
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 12:22am On Nov 21, 2013
POPE II:


Your heresies will never cease to amaze, who are you to say when it is vain? What on earth makes you think our prayers are vain ? Should we get tired to praise the world? You heretics are straight hypocrites , you see nothing wrong with your fire fire fire x1000 , your alleluhia alleluhia x1000, in Jesus name etc , but you dare point fingers?
Ignorance at it peak. Fire or alleluia is not prayer. the truth bites, I get it.... did you read the other scriptures?
When you pray avoid repetitions, pray to God the father through the son, Christ......
You all do the wrong thing: you chant your rosary over 10 times at times, pray to Christ through Mary.....
Yeah shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. John 8:32
Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 12:24am On Nov 21, 2013
POPE II: a heretic want to salve others? Abeg work on your own salvation , or you think you have already made it to the heaven?
vickyO:
The scriptures is the Bible and the Bible is the Word of God.
scrip·ture [skrípchər]
(plural scrip·tures) or Scrip·ture [skrípchər] (plural Scrip·tures)
noun
1. biblical writings: the sacred writings of the Bible
2. biblical text: a passage from the Bible

Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved
.

ok now, the Bible admonishes us to do the following:
Ephesians 5:10
Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
I Thessalonians 5:21
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 12:26am On Nov 21, 2013
POPE II: most of you heretics think the beads are the rosary, so before embarking on your stupid and useless quest you guys should get educated .
Did he say beads are the rosary?
Acidosis:
www.nairaland.com/1525118/rosary-consists-53-repetitious-prayers

[b]The Rosary consists of 53 repetitious prayers
Dude in all thy gettings get understanding....
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by POPEII: 12:30am On Nov 21, 2013
Unfortunately you are not making any sense, what really bothers you ? The Holy Mary or the Rosary? The Beads or the Rosary?
vickyO:
Ignorance at it peak. Fire or alleluia is not prayer. the truth bites, I get it.... did you read the other scriptures?
When you pray avoid repetitions, pray to God the father through the son, Christ......
You all do the wrong thing: you chant your rosary over 10 times at times, pray to Christ through Mary.....
Yeah shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. John 8:32
Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Rosary is not a Chant so we don't Chant it ,however we sing or chant during the rosary .

So I guess I should say one Our Father per day, per year, per Month to avoid repetition right?
The rest of your comment is trash and typical from your kind (heretic brothers)
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by POPEII: 12:34am On Nov 21, 2013
vickyO:
Did he say beads are the rosary? Dude in all thy gettings get understanding....
do you have reading comprehension issues? I said most of you ,besides you belong to that group, I had to school you on that, you people condemn what you don't know and understand,iI don't blame you tho, this is what happen when your leaders are crooks, and self anointed thieves parading themselves as men of God, most of your pastors are uneducated be it on theology, sociology, philosophy.
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 12:38am On Nov 21, 2013
POPE II: Unfortunately you are not making any sense, what does it really bother you ? The Holy Mary or the Rosary? The Beads or the Rosary?
Rosary is not a Chant so we don't Chant it ,however we sing or chant during the rosary .

So I guess I should say one Our Father per day, per year, per Month to avoid repetition right?
The rest of your comment is trash and typical from your kind (heretic brothers)
All I said is directly from the scriptures. and if you think the scripture is trash, it shows "what wonderful" Christian you are.
II Timothy 3: 16
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof , for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
Re: Jesus' Final Response To The Exaltation Of His Mother by vickyO(f): 12:41am On Nov 21, 2013
POPE II: do you have reading comprehension issues? I said most of you ,besides you belong to that group, I had to school you on that, you people condemn what you don't know and understand,iI don't blame you tho, this is what happen when your leaders are crooks, and self anointed thieves parading themselves as men of God, most of your pastors are uneducated be it on theology, sociology, philosophy.
you are the one with the reading comprehension issue. you quoted acidosis definition when you made one of your many demeaning statements.

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