black Africans are dying is 50 and that is ridiculous they need to develop better eating habits better diet going to the doctor twice a year teaching the kids about the fish is healthy diet and stuff like that you know if you want to avoid getting sick you need to have a healthy diet that's essential like those people need to have a healthy diet.

by the government make sure the big people have something like that. Free healthcare hello what the fxck!!!

neohitler: I didn't insult blacks in my first post but some people here decided to abuse me and my race for saying the facts.I do not have any problems with black people but i hate those blacks that give births to children they can't cater for and your useless leaders for not having any good plans for their countries and continent.You people like to blame whites for all your misfortunes and you fathers and leaders like robert mugabe have succeeded by brain washing you to believe that white men doesn't want you to succeed.Of course we want you to succeed and stop your over dependence on us for everything.Hate me or like me,i don't care and i will keep saying the facts till blacks stop behaving like monkeys.And for those that called me a racist;you are also a racist.

why would you have a name like me to Hitler was that abouttension getting mechanism

tonychristopher:

it has nothing to do with been sarcastic what we should understand is that blacks feel intimidated by progress

they were dealing with individuals I employ a different strategy and started dealing with organizations ..this made my output to quadruple but he won't understudy buy jealous

now you have shown that tendency here. instead of tackling the issue you brought sarcasm here. I am not been sacarstic I am a man that call a spade a spade not a shovel

my wife has experienced this also ...I have notices that some set of people in Nigeria are just OK with complacency and docility

the black man will always dance party and not think...this is the problem

communication skills isn't a requirement where I was working but productivity

many people are more of liars and term it communication skills ....you will see an office instead of focusing on productivity you see people focusing on eye service

to be blunt there are some certain people I just can't work with due to inherent traits in them ....from experience and others experience ....

I have those that abhor competition and love quota system

I am a believer that competition brings the best out of an individual ...but Herr you see hate

look at the country today they are bombing and killing themselves for the singular fact that a man from minority is the president. .instead of supporting him they will try to pull him down

just despicable

With all due respect, Sir. Don't you think the fact that you keep trying to emphasize on a particular set of people is also part of our problem? Do you think other sets of people don't have their issues or even worse? Terming everyone under a blanket because of the experience(s) you might have had in the past does put you very well in the bracket of the complaint this thread was all about in the first place.

IllCheez:

With all due respect, Sir. Don't you think the fact that you keep trying to emphasize on a particular set of people is also part of our problem? Do you think other sets of people don't have their issues or even worse? Terming everyone under a blanket because of the experience(s) you might have had in the past does put you very well in the bracket of the complaint this thread was all about in the first place.

LOL. I don't think the dude will get your message.

IllCheez:

With all due respect, Sir. Don't you think the fact that you keep trying to emphasize on a particular set of people is also part of our problem? Do you think other sets of people don't have their issues or even worse? Terming everyone under a blanket because of the experience(s) you might have had in the past does put you very well in the bracket of the complaint this thread was all about in the first place.

sir

apart from my experience I did research and had what is called random sampling and there are inherent factors and indices of a particular group or unit ...thus I arrive at a conclusion

that was my submission but that doesn't mean I am generalizing but there is a higher tendency in a particular set

tonychristopher:

sir

apart from my experience I did research and had what is called random sampling and there are inherent factors and indices of a particular group or unit ...thus I arrive at a conclusion

that was my submission but that doesn't mean I am generalizing but there is a higher tendency in a particular set

Speechless... There is no gain in replying.

fightforchange1: black Africans are dying is 50 and that is ridiculous they need to develop better eating habits better diet going to the doctor twice a year teaching the kids about the fish is healthy diet and stuff like that you know if you want to avoid getting sick you need to have a healthy diet that's essential like those people need to have a healthy diet.

by the government make sure the big people have something like that. Free healthcare hello what the fxck!!!

I am a black but I will be honest our mentality is weird ..neohitler said it all. when was the last time somebody did a community service
this is a country where a man will not resign to pave way for youth

a country where youth leader is 60yrs old

we should stop blaming whites for our misfortune

India Singapore china Taiwan Brazil mexico Malaysia were once colonized

please this is an intellectual discussion we should critic objective and give good submission and not call names .
we need a rethink as a race

IllCheez:

Speechless... There is no gain in replying.

with all due respect I hope that I didn't offend your sensibility ..if I did I apologize

we are here to have what is called a re orientation and rethink

we can't be this way..we can't be begging the west for aids and grants we can't be going to west for treatment we can't abandon research and development we can't allow some people to drag us back ..we can't allow Africa to be laughing stock we have to be a beacon

yes truth does hurt but a great man us the man that accepts the truth

we can't assume all is well

Black man, black brain

ooshinibos: its not the color , its the mentality ....even though its hard to tell , because of the lack of a really modernised black nation where every human will love to visit without the aboslute fear of crime and anti human being behaviour ..you will think something is genetically wrong with us .

its more complicated than you think ..its more than than skin color pigmentation

this thread I think is meant to simplify the complications... do you realise the poorest country in western hemisphere is Haiti and that country is just like Africa

the poorest country in the world is Africa

is it by chance that we are like this or is it genetic or environmental

I feel that somewhere there is a jinx a hocus pocus situation

we should start believing in ourselves knowing fully well that government has failed us

Nigeria is a case study

tonychristopher:

that's what I was trying to make them understand you can have population that is quantity not quality and Canada has few population that is quality

if we can have regional economy here it will be better ...I just think that some set of black peeps in Nigeria are anti progressive

and we should be a beacon to the black world .....

somebody said I am sadistic and sarcastic.... is it wrong using instances to buttres my point

That's the African Mind playing its Role on Africans. years back when i was in Nigeria, i honestly thought i was leaving a stress free life until i relocated to Canada, that was when i knew i was suffering and smiling, but it doesn't end here in Canada because i am planning my return not as a jobless youth but as an entrepreneur/investor. I'll recommend this YouTube clip "The Men Who Built America" for our youths just for them to know that the government wasn't the one who built America, but the citizens were the ones.

tonychristopher:

with all due respect I hope that I didn't offend your sensibility ..if I did I apologize

we are here to have what is called a re orientation and rethink

we can't be this way..we can't be begging the west for aids and grants we can't be going to west for treatment we can't abandon research and development we can't allow some people to drag us back ..we can't allow Africa to be laughing stock we have to be a beacon

yes truth does hurt but a great man us the man that accepts the truth

we can't assume all is well

I completely agree. Hence, the reason why in my first comment on this thread, I agreed we do have a problem. I just differ with you on the issue of terming a particular set of people over isolated cases. That is because some of our problems are inherent in these beliefs whether we like it or not. I am from the South-West, but I have family friends who have become families from the South-East and I have been to their core eastern villages in both Enugu and Anambra States during festivities. In addition, I have also been to almost every part of the country. Therefore, you should know I know enough to let you know such beliefs as you have are not only wrong, but bias and hope you can pause a minute to reflect on this.

Back to the topic: What I always advocate is a difficult, if not an impossible one. That is going back to societal basics and self reflection as a people. Even here on Nairaland, we see people bashing each other on the basis of tribe and political affiliations. We heap blames on our leaders, yet forgetting the fact that they are also products of the same society. People screaming for a revolution should take a clue from the Arab spring which has failed to achieve much if not for descending the countries into total chaos. In our own case, even if we revolt successfully; the new leaders will also come from the same societies and then the story continues all over again.

If we can re-engineer our societies and give re-education a chance, it could re-invigorate upcoming generations into giving more. The present generation can only try; I won't be placing a huge chunk of bet on us however, as the term 'All man for himself' is the order of the day at present. Just my humble submission.

IllCheez:

I completely agree. Hence, the reason why in my first comment on this thread, I agreed we do have a problem. I just differ with you on the issue of terming a particular set of people over isolated cases. That is because some of our problems are inherent in these beliefs whether we like it or not. I am from the South-West, but I have family friends who have become families from the South-East and I have been to their core eastern villages in both Enugu and Anambra States during festivities. In addition, I have also been to almost every part of the country. Therefore, you should know I know enough to let you know such beliefs as you have are not only wrong, but bias and hope you can pause a minute to reflect on this.

Back to the topic: What I always advocate is a difficult, if not an impossible one. That is going back to societal basics and self reflection as a people. Even here on Nairaland, we see people bashing each other on the basis of tribe and political affiliations. We heap blames on our leaders, yet forgetting the fact that they are also products of the same society. People screaming for a revolution should take a clue from the Arab spring which has failed to achieve much if not for descending the countries into total chaos. In our own case, even if we revolt successfully; the new leaders will also come from the same societies and then the story continues all over again.

If we can re-engineer our societies and give re-education a chance, it could re-invigorate upcoming generations into giving more. The present generation can only try; I won't be placing a huge chunk of bet on us however, as the term 'All man for himself' is the order of the day at present. Just my humble submission.

you have spoken very well but mind you I didn't call any tribe name but I made a salient point ...having been to any part of Nigeria isn't a criteria for purgation

thanks that you have been around and this must have made you seen life in a different perspective which is competitions... not staying in your enclave without venturing out ...

no venture no success

your such a man I admire his outlook in life and I think we will need your type to move each region out of this mess or quagmire

we depend much on government not on our brains...that's a clear departure from the eastern orientation... not saying that they are the best

but the biggest resources we have is our brains...we have to start competing

don't you think so

donnypool:

That's the African Mind playing its Role on Africans. years back when i was in Nigeria, i honestly thought i was leaving a stress free life until i relocated to Canada, that was when i knew i was suffering and smiling, but it doesn't end here in Canada because i am planning my return not as a jobless youth but as an entrepreneur/investor. I'll recommend this YouTube clip "The Men Who Built America" for our youths just for them to know that the government wasn't the one who built America, but the citizens were the ones.

you have made a good decision and your path is well....our youths which I am part of have been mesmerized and messed up psychologically all they want to do is either sing or dance..the songs doesn't make sense

few wants to go to lab or research and development ...all wants to work none wants to be entrepreneur

here in Nigeria docility and senility is so height that tokenism is the order of the day. I pray that you get people with positive mindset working for you

I work in an organization now but I intend leaving and opening my own not that I don't like the job but my colleagues are complacent ..may be ur has to do with NY tribe

they are okay with the status quo ..staying longer there will be infectious and that will make me complacent ...I am an ambitious person ..I want to create value
I look up to some people and I wonder how they made so much impact positively

we need to change our orientation

the black world is looking up to us Nigeria

we can't afford to fail them

that's my humble submission

we can't be asking for aids and grants either from IMF china or EU

tonychristopher:

you have made a good decision and your path is well....our youths which I am part of have been mesmerized and messed up psychologically all they want to do is either sing or dance..the songs doesn't make sense

few wants to go to lab or research and development ...all wants to work none wants to be entrepreneur

here in Nigeria docility and senility is so height that tokenism is the order of the day. I pray that you get people with positive mindset working for you

I work in an organization now but I intend leaving and opening my own not that I don't like the job but my colleagues are complacent ..may be ur has to do with NY tribe

they are okay with the status quo ..staying longer there will be infectious and that will make me complacent ...I am an ambitious person ..I want to create value
I look up to some people and I wonder how they made so much impact positively

we need to change our orientation

the black world is looking up to us Nigeria

we can't afford to fail them

that's my humble submission

we can't be asking for aids and grants either from IMF china or EU

Good thinking my friend, my only advise is for you to never look back. Most Nigerian business men doesn't know what business is all about, many don't have a business plan and many can be bought off. Well i'm still in the process of gathering young entrepreneur with like minded.
Hopefully in the next 3-10 years, intelligent men will be the pillar of not only nigeria, but the black race.

45% , of nigerias population lives under the poverty linr

donnypool:

Good thinking my friend, my only advise is for you to never look back. Most Nigerian business men doesn't know what business is all about, many don't have a business plan and many can be bought off. Well i'm still in the process of gathering young entrepreneur with like minded.
Hopefully in the next 3-10 years, intelligent men will be the pillar of not only nigeria, but the black race.

the way things are going presently ..its is all about the future and the future is here . the future is knowledge based economy..jobs are been lost people are losing jobs steadily and the secret of survival lies in re invention ...technology is creating jobs loss and organization are employing automation and technology . people are been dropped everywhere but at the same time opportunity is been created

ATM today accepts and dispense cash so bankers will not be needed soon just few people

people are reading e books so most newspaper houses will do under

people are doing emails so post will be limited.

people are using more of instant messaging like viber whatsapp etc these days so voice calls will be reduced

peoples are booking tickets online so travel agents will loose their jobs

telemedicine is becoming popular so many doctors will go out of jobs

people are hooking prostitutes online now so the regular prostitute will loose jobs

now what do we do ...re invention is the key ....90% of jobs in Nigeria are not secure and not pensionable and research has shown that the market is so huge but the problem is that few are ready to take over the market

in Nigeria today its the Asians and south Africans are reaping the benefit

investment and enterprises are the key

SME s are the key

I wish you luck in investment

tonychristopher:

the way things are going presently ..its is all about the future and the future is here . the future is knowledge based economy..jobs are been lost people are losing jobs steadily and the secret of survival lies in re invention ...technology is creating jobs loss and organization are employing automation and technology . people are been dropped everywhere but at the same time opportunity is been created

ATM today accepts and dispense cash so bankers will not be needed soon just few people

people are reading e books so most newspaper houses will do under

people are doing emails so post will be limited.

people are using more of instant messaging like viber whatsapp etc these days so voice calls will be reduced

peoples are booking tickets online so travel agents will loose their jobs

telemedicine is becoming popular so many doctors will go out of jobs

people are hooking prostitutes online now so the regular prostitute will loose jobs

now what do we do ...re invention is the key ....90% of jobs in Nigeria are not secure and not pensionable and research has shown that the market is so huge but the problem is that few are ready to take over the market

in Nigeria today its the Asians and south Africans are reaping the benefit

investment and enterprises are the key

SME s are the key

I wish you luck in investment

Good thinking and good luck to you bro

People should leave naija.

.

tonychristopher: Culled from the book: What Is Wrong In Being Black?, written by Matthew Ashimolowo

Black is blessed upstairs like any other colour/race of the world but conspiratorially , there are many cabals who are extremely powerful at shielding a black man from the larger picture simply because the supremacist were the first to clinch the zenith of civilisation now All they want a black man to see is Money , Money, Money in the name of many interventions while Supremacists sees Power, Power and Advancement in Power to lord over all species of this world and world beyond !!

They removed the ill value of a black man and corrupted all the beautiful values he has . Liberated and Brainwashed his brain to think less of his values also physically challenged him through advanced laboratory induced plagues just to enslave him through the world and you can never stop crying to master when you have induced issues beyond your scope !!


Only a Black Man can liberate himself from the grasped of imperialism but how would he do that ....

The only one reason why Machines and The falcons are not showering a black man with the hot-balls is simply because he is playing their games and whomsoever trying to liberate himself or herself is a separatist and that is a war !!


What tool will a black man war when he can never be allowed to developed the same very power that makes supremacist supreme ....... He can't and nobody can except only them !!

Black aint cursed and who knows , when the world should spin around in the foreseable future, The Black man may be the last man standing and the presently advanced civilisation in the World to come !!!


We all know what is wrong in being black and we all know how the wrong could be righted but who is strong enough , without being st:upid, to bell the cat

donnypool:

Good thinking and good luck to you bro

thank you

tonychristopher:

this thread I think is meant to simplify the complications... do you realise the poorest country in western hemisphere is Haiti and that country is just like Africa

the poorest country in the world is Africa

is it by chance that we are like this or is it genetic or environmental

I feel that somewhere there is a jinx a hocus pocus situation

we should start believing in ourselves knowing fully well that government has failed us

Nigeria is a case study

i agree with you sir , it still defies logic why we cant just be productive as a race or people ..its more even confusing , when you go to American ..the poorest neighbourhoods are black areas ...i think its more genetic orientation but not all of us , it gets more confusing when you some black people are breaking out of poverty in American and UK ( i have lived in both places ) , so we cannot even say it is genetic completely .. or can it be a cultural rethinking .....i dont think we ever get the complete answer in our life time ..Africa has the best weather , land and possess more resources that any other continent , so it still defies logic that we cannot fend for ourselves ... abi wetin you talk ??

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[i]Nonsense! I would only take you serious when you can make sense in your comments. Not this trash you are writing out of your utter dysfunctional African life. I am not going to entertain some dubious behavior you are exhibiting in your writing as though you are smart enough to make me see your reasons when you are not. Meanwhile, there is nothing silly about my point just that you are too silly to see the facts of it.

However, you haven't been able to comprehend my post from a civilized man's point of view. Why do you expect me to continue saying the same thing you wouldn't possibly understand ?

For the umpteenth time, I would answer your questions accordingly and I know you aren't going to make a single sense out of it. I am going to use African and black interchangeably in this very post.

1) Things that don't work for blacks is the society and barbaric culture. It is hard to separate both in this context. They haven't been able to move the people forward than create an area of enviousness for the developed world. Often used as excuses to blame the west for their failures.

2) There are lot of actions which black people can take to turn things around for the good of humanity. I have been able to spell them out in my subsequent writings in this forum.

(a) Proper education to serve the community and to stop embracing the primitive past our ancestors lived. This has to come in the forms of providing modern schools, from the kindergarten to the college equipped with the best resources. Not only are the students going to be engaged in scientific activities but to make sure things are done in orderly fashion.

(b) A working elected leaders and system. The people have to come together to fight against corrupt leaders and say no to any form of stealing. The need to start educating the youths to fight for their rights and use the media available to them to expose bad leaders should be a routine. There must a great fight to get rid of those found wanting in that area and be imprisoned for life if possible.

(c) Stop mass production of babies in squalid conditions. The population is expanding exponentially in the poor and rural areas to the detriment of the society. This is putting stress on the people, resources and the environment. I can't imagine the hellish condition people live in Africa due to their inability to find a working solutions to reduce the population to a manageable state.

(d) Stop hating on the West. 90% of the things used by Africans are devised by the westerners and I don't see any reason why they have to be blamed for the inabilities of the black people to get organized and follow a civilized way of life(promote rule of law). That is the most annoying thing about black people, most especially, Nigerians in their arrogant and ignorant nature.

(e) Teach the people about simple hygiene. The black children and adults have to be taught about taking care of their bodies, surroundings and food. The Africans are so dirty in their smelling bodies and environment that you would agree some of them are living worse than animals in the forest. Jeez! Do something i d i o ts!

(f) Provide good infrastructure. There is need for good health care, social and economic activities. They have to build hospitals supplied with modern equipment to take care of sick people. There has to be health-care bill that is directed at the old, poor and the sick. Provision of good roads, bridges, good public transportation, clean water, better housing,security(expedient and top priority),etc. Those aren't working in African society.

Crabs in the bucket is pulling blacks all rather Africans backward in all facet of life. This is a testament to how much envious they are in nature and are ready to keep living the annoying dirty life wasting earth resources and putting pressure on the environment because they have not been able to devise a working solution so others must be put in harms way. Your crab mentality is typical of blacks. Sh*t!

I've gone through your post before and you haven't made a single sense than a plan to insult my family. You don't know my family either. Reading your post proves that you are a primitive human being meant to dwell in the forest like brutes.


seems someone has being smoking a lot of God knows what.............lolz. dude dont take this personal, i read through your stuff i must confess some do make sense, its all about agreeing to disagree. You are not bound to agree with my views and neither am i bound to agree with wih yours.

My point is stop the insultive and name calling if you read a post that does not agree with your views kindly act the Bigger Man and read or ignore and move on. besides there are better ways to present your views without resorting to the use of crude remarks.

Not every rant deserve a response.......cheers

ooshinibos:

i agree with you sir , it still defies logic why we cant just be productive as a race or people ..its more even confusing , when you go to American ..the poorest neighbourhoods are black areas ...i think its more genetic orientation but not all of us , it gets more confusing when you some black people are breaking out of poverty in American and UK ( i have lived in both places ) , so we cannot even say it is genetic completely .. or can it be a cultural rethinking .....i dont think we ever get the complete answer in our life time ..Africa has the best weather , land and possess more resources that any other continent , so it still defies logic that we cannot fend for ourselves ... abi wetin you talk ??

I think its more of nurture that nature
the black man has many pull him down mentality and has the lack of ability to think method logically ...this is only plain truth

we have to start rethinking ...look at Nigeria with all the things that we have at our beck and call ...look at sorry state we are in

then look at japan with little thing but look at them


now Ebola is killing in Nigeria but instead of support they are arresting those with cure
why why why do we depend so much on the west from their ideology to education to way of thinking to aids

tonychristopher: Culled from the book: What Is Wrong In Being Black?, written by Matthew Ashimolowo

Religion is Mathematics, sciences and most of all common sense, when it is otherwise into belief systems and superstitions, then it has become a tool of slavery.

do you literally take the meaning of the verses in the bible as they are on a face value? don't

can snake talk? how much less deceive a man, does adam and eve rep just two people? can a single bite from apple bring about is downfall.

Pharoah magicians dropped their staffs, wholla! it turned into a snake? Moses did the same, his snake swallows the other?
Moses hanged a snake on a pole, and said whoever it is that didn't look will be bitten, seriously?
David swings the stone at goliath, and he fell, like how? red sea opened and they walked on dry land? haha
in the end time, the dead shall rise, physically dead rotten people o, why then do you shout Jesus when you feel the presence of a loved one's ghost.

his head was cut off for rituals and money was raining from the sky, nollywood played game on you.
all this things are what our so called graduates believe on a facevalue, most of all that GOD is a spirit.
if i see an angel with physical wings, i will run, i don't need his help.

all this beliefs and superstitions destroys us than what you can ever imagine. seek the truth and knowledge, then freedom is all yours in full!

And black man created and made all the basic thing we are using, the whiteman is just creative enough to turn the basic idea into something shining, since he loves steel so much. and marketing stuffs
i heard an igbo man created the internet, just because is an igbo, we all say it is a lie ooo, a fraud. i am 100% sure that he did. im not igbo,am a proud blackman, the cellphones, do you have any idea what your brothers in north america had made over the years?
innoson made a car, you say it is assembled.

blackman, if we stand every blackman from every tribe on the face of the planet, and wear the suits, do you know you would never be able to say who is who until or after a speaks?
blackman first!

tonychristopher:

I think its more of nurture that nature
the black man has many pull him down mentality and has the lack of ability to think method logically ...this is only plain truth

we have to start rethinking ...look at Nigeria with all the things that we have at our beck and call ...look at sorry state we are in

then look at japan with little thing but look at them


now Ebola is killing in Nigeria but instead of support they are arresting those with cure
why why why do we depend so much on the west from their ideology to education to way of thinking to aids

I see your point , there is a lot of discussion about the same issue you raised but no logical answer or reason has been given ..but based on experience and what i have seen being living in different countries ...not all blacks are deluded or dont have the ability to control or enjoy his environment , i think majority of black people either through the environment or social injustice have been mentally damaged , some are even saying the the mind of a black man has to be examined or studied . and let me add this, the law of Generalisation does not help this study as well , because we now some black have done really well inspite of their impoverished upbringing ? , so we cannot all blacks are mentally retarded .

check this out , it has been noted that when white couples adopt black kids ,the children tend to do better in life , how do we explain this scenario . can we conclude that it our environment or culture that his holding us back ? ..ok , where did the culture come from ? , how do we explain the black entrepreneurs that are doing well inspite of their hold back ? ..are we dealing with a black mentality thing or we need to be re-orient our thinking , ( how ? ) , how many of us are deluded ? , and how have we managed to let the deluded leaders reach government , these are quentions we need to answer , its complicated because blacks cannot be even defined , we have different cultures amongst blacks or brown people ...abi wetin you talk bruv

ooshinibos:

I see your point , there is a lot of discussion about the same issue you raised but no logical answer or reason has been given ..but based on experience and what i have seen being living in different countries ...not all blacks are deluded or dont have the ability to control or enjoy his environment , i think majority of black people either through the environment or social injustice have been mentally damaged , some are even saying the the mind of a black man has to be examined or studied . and let me add this, the law of Generalisation does not help this study as well , because we now some black have done really well inspite of their impoverished upbringing ? , so we cannot all blacks are mentally retarded .

check this out , it has been noted that when white couples adopt black kids ,the children tend to do better in life , how do we explain this scenario . can we conclude that it our environment or culture that his holding us back ? ..ok , where did the culture come from ? , how do we explain the black entrepreneurs that are doing well inspite of their hold back ? ..are we dealing with a black mentality thing or we need to be re-orient our thinking , ( how ? ) , how many of us are deluded ? , and how have we managed to let the deluded leaders reach government , these are quentions we need to answer , its complicated because blacks cannot be even defined , we have different cultures amongst blacks or brown people ...abi wetin you talk bruv

you made some cogent point ...so we have come to agree its nurture than nature

having deluded leaders to me is escapist ...ghaddaffi of Libya was deluded but he developed Libya

Mussolini was deluded but developed Italy

north Korea is an insane country but have you seen infrastructures there...world class

Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and Castro of Cuba were mad asses but give it to them ...they developed their economy ...even surato of Asia ...what of china

then in black Africa you see idi amins the abachas the does then you know what I am talking

the time we stop depending on government and start thinking that will be the start of emancipation ,

gatiano: And black man created and made all the basic thing we are using, the whiteman is just creative enough to turn the basic idea into something shining, since he loves steel so much. and marketing stuffs
i heard an igbo man created the internet, just because is an igbo, we all say it is a lie ooo, a fraud. i am 100% sure that he did. im not igbo,am a proud blackman, the cellphones, do you have any idea what your brothers in north america had made over the years?
innoson made a car, you say it is assembled.

blackman, if we stand every blackman from every tribe on the face of the planet, and wear the suits, do you know you would never be able to say who is who until or after a speaks?
blackman first!

he is Philip emeagwalli he was one of the founders of internet ....I know the discredited report sahara report did on him ...just because he is Igbo and black

what of Dr abakaka the HIV vaccine guy...they didn't believe him

what of engineer Izuogu that built the cars in 80s they killed his dream cos he is black and Igbo

so many instances ....I am an igbo but I am talking from black view point not trivial tribal

too much pull him down syndrome in us...irks me so bad

tonychristopher:

you made some cogent point ...so we have come to agree its nurture than nature

having deluded leaders to me is escapist ...ghaddaffi of Libya was deluded but he developed Libya

Mussolini was deluded but developed Italy

north Korea is an insane country but have you seen infrastructures there...world class

Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and Castro of Cuba were mad asses but give it to them ...they developed their economy ...even surato of Asia ...what of china

then in black Africa you see idi amins the abachas the does then you know what I am talking

the time we stop depending on government and start thinking that will be the start of emancipation ,

You have solid points ..and to be honest we discuss at a Nigerian Party i went , same question pop up and the why question .

We have to be brutally honest with ourselves that something desperate wrong with us either genetically , mentally or any other thing because what we are currently doing as a black race ( across the continent ) is not working until we accept this issue , there will be no solution .
1. Our present leaders (deluded or not ) , come out of our society , a deluded society will produce a deluded leader , i have come to the point that even if an oil well or goldmine is located in every black man house , majority of us will still be stuck ..because we are dealing with a mentality or mindset ( i dont even know that happened ) that has not been dealth with , those amongst us that are not deluded will be pull down because the good ones amongst us are few .

2. We will have to fix our society and deluded culture by telling people that corruption leads to indirect genocide , for example all the previous government that have refused to built basic infrastrutures dont even know that this has caused a lot of lives , lack of basic housing , electricity , roads etc , have killed so many people and more , the strange is that the contracts for these infrastructures have been awarded many times , but why dont we have it , is is because the culture is deluded or clueless as well , these question has to be answered , why are our leaders getting away with these behaviour , the only logical reason is because the society is deluded and accepts these anomaly . Period .

for example , voters accepted rice and cooking oil to vote for a corrupted candidate , how can you explain that , this can only happen in a deluded society where life is cheap ..

and can go on forever ....even this ebola thing , if we had a good healthcare system , Ebola will not thrive , we see what i mean

bros..we can talk forever but time will not permit ...

something wrong with most us ( 80 percent of us ) ..and we have not accepted it ..and unconsciouly turning a blind eye to it ..

ooshinibos:



You have solid points ..and to be honest we discuss at a Nigerian Party i went , same question pop up and the why question .

We have to be brutally honest with ourselves that something desperate wrong with us either genetically , mentally or any other thing because what we are currently doing as a black race ( across the continent ) is not working until we accept this issue , there will be no solution .
1. Our present leaders (deluded or not ) , come out of our society , a deluded society will produce a deluded leader , i have come to the point that even if an oil well or goldmine is located in every black man house , majority of us will still be stuck ..because we are dealing with a mentality or mindset ( i dont even know that happened ) that has not been dealth with , those amongst us that are not deluded will be pull down because the good ones amongst us are few .

2. We will have to fix our society and deluded culture by telling people that corruption leads to indirect genocide , for example all the previous government that have refused to built basic infrastrutures dont even know that this has caused a lot of lives , lack of basic housing , electricity , roads etc , have killed so many people and more , the strange is that the contracts for these infrastructures have been awarded many times , but why dont we have it , is is because the culture is deluded or clueless as well , these question has to be answered , why are our leaders getting away with these behaviour , the only logical reason is because the society is deluded and accepts these anomaly . Period .

for example , voters accepted rice and cooking oil to vote for a corrupted candidate , how can you explain that , this can only happen in a deluded society where life is cheap ..

and can go on forever ....even this ebola thing , if we had a good healthcare system , Ebola will not thrive , we see what i mean

bros..we can talk forever but time will not permit ...

something wrong with most us ( 80 percent of us ) ..and we have not accepted it ..and unconsciouly turning a blind eye to it ..

my brother we are looking at this from the same direction ..delusion isn't an escape ..what is killing us is the fact that we have believed that we can't go the whole mile alone without assistance

Chinese closed their economy believing in the principle of what you can't produce you don't need ...that's another way if saying that necessity is the mother of invention ...they curtailed their contact with outside world

today they are better off

today we have unsatisfactory appetite for anything foreign. we buy fairly used undies we can't just produce anything . the Lord given oil we just can't refine ..its shameful sometimes I am so ashamed


its like having a cassava farm you will uproot and harvest cassava then sell it to buy garri etc ...that's our position

now some urchins are refining oil in the creeks of Delta what do we get ? government clamping on them

in America the government makes good use of criminals that's proactive thinking

we need to change

Asians Americans Europeans and Latinos are laughing at us and some few semitic people of Arabs not Dubai or Qatar or turkey

why us why Africa