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Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by ooshinibos: 3:43pm On Aug 07, 2014
tonychristopher:

my brother we are looking at this from the same direction ..delusion isn't an escape ..what is killing us is the fact that we have believed that we can't go the whole mile alone without assistance

Chinese closed their economy believing in the principle of what you can't produce you don't need ...that's another way if saying that necessity is the mother of invention ...they curtailed their contact with outside world

today they are better off

today we have unsatisfactory appetite for anything foreign. we buy fairly used undies we can't just produce anything . the Lord given oil we just can't refine ..its shameful sometimes I am so ashamed


its like having a cassava farm you will uproot and harvest cassava then sell it to buy garri etc ...that's our position

now some urchins are refining oil in the creeks of Delta what do we get ? government clamping on them

in America the government makes good use of criminals that's proactive thinking

we need to change

Asians Americans Europeans and Latinos are laughing at us and some few semitic people of Arabs not Dubai or Qatar or turkey

why us why Africa


You are right , delusion is not an escape route as we must have to take responsibilty for our predicament and actions ...
so , the question is who are those ''We'' ? that are responsible for creating poverty and mayhem in Africa .
Another issue we did not mention is the wickedness and selfishness in our society , is this genetics as well , or it is just lack of understanding how the world works ...as you rightly said deluded leaders should not be the reason for lack of basic infrasrtucture that have evaded Nigeria year after year , with different and various electrification programs ..and we have not managed to produce 5000 MW to this day , why ?? ..something he definitely wrong .
I spoke to an official recently .. I asked him why infrastructure programs are never completed ?, he said because the money is not enough to round due to pkickbacks or bribes , i now told him , why cant they add extra money for this kickbacks and complete the project , i also told him that if they actually complete projects , people will like them , the government will make money via tax and the economy will benefit .....guess what ? he did not understand the logic and failed to see the benefit for all . if we start edutating the massing about good governance , and the benefits ..actually discussing government responsibilties and what to do if this things are not done ..maybe we see the change you are talking about .................

the white people are baffled that we are still in poverty with all that we are blessed with ...they are actually disappointed and thats why they will never respect us :-) ..some hate blacks because we have become dependents on their little resources ..

its a shame on us , we should be feeding them not the other way round ...

wetin you talk bruv

.

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Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by tonychristopher: 4:07pm On Aug 07, 2014
ooshinibos:


You are right , delusion is not an escape route as we must have to take responsibilty for our predicament and actions ...
so , the question is who are those ''We'' ? that are responsible for creating poverty and mayhem in Africa .
Another issue we did not mention is the wickedness and selfishness in our society , is this genetics as well , or it is just lack of understanding how the world works ...as you rightly said deluded leaders should not be the reason for lack of basic infrasrtucture that have evaded Nigeria year after year , with different and various electrification programs ..and we have not managed to produce 5000 MW to this day , why ?? ..something he definitely wrong .
I spoke to an official recently .. I asked him why infrastructure programs are never completed ?, he said because the money is not enough to round due to pkickbacks or bribes , i now told him , why cant they add extra money for this kickbacks and complete the project , i also told him that if they actually complete projects , people will like them , the government will make money via tax and the economy will benefit .....guess what ? he did not understand the logic and failed to see the benefit for all . if we start edutating the massing about good governance , and the benefits ..actually discussing government responsibilties and what to do if this things are not done ..maybe we see the change you are talking about .................

the white people are baffled that we are still in poverty with all that we are blessed with ...they are actually disappointed and thats why they will never respect us :-) ..some hate blacks because we have become dependents on their little resources ..

its a shame on us , we should be feeding them not the other way round ...

wetin you talk bruv

.

its not only the whites that are baffled that we are in this mess...I am also baffled ...take a trip to oil producing community and see what is abject poverty ..in the midst of aplenty they lack then visit places like Nnewi with no oil ...that us the situation we have in Nigeria

natural resources cause a nation what is known as dutch disease and that we are suffering

are you still wondering how...in university there is an elective course I did then called sociology of development ...there it was stated that the west practise white wizardry while Africa practice black wizardry and that is just truth

look at Macbeth the witches told him that he will be a king and he became a king

here in Africa witches will see you to be a king they will use their powers to thwart and avert that throne from you ....


that is Africa

look at Zimbabwe when it was Rhodesia it was the best economy because whites where there ....now look at Zimbabwe when they chased the whites away then renamed it Zimbabwe ..such a mess of a country

so I think its nurture that nature

we need to change our thinking ..first its thinking not money
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by pro2010: 4:33pm On Aug 07, 2014
tonychristopher:

its not only the whites that are baffled that we are in this mess...I am also baffled ...take a trip to oil producing community and see what is abject poverty ..in the midst of aplenty they lack then visit places like Nnewi with no oil ...that us the situation we have in Nigeria

natural resources cause a nation what is known as dutch disease and that we are suffering

are you still wondering how...in university there is an elective course I did then called sociology of development ...there it was stated that the west practise white wizardry while Africa practice black wizardry and that is just truth

look at Macbeth the witches told him that he will be a king and he became a king

here in Africa witches will see you to be a king they will use their powers to thwart and avert that throne from you ....


that is Africa

look at Zimbabwe when it was Rhodesia it was the best economy because whites where there ....now look at Zimbabwe when they chased the whites away then renamed it Zimbabwe ..such a mess of a country

so I think its nurture that nature

we need to change our thinking ..first its thinking not money

African countries lack strong INSTITUTIONS and that is the bane of our development!
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by tonychristopher: 8:04pm On Aug 07, 2014
pro2010:

African countries lack strong INSTITUTIONS and that is the bane of our development!

are these strong institutions not manned by human being ..what happened to the institutions when whites where in Zimbabwe and what happened when whites left

what happened to institutions when there was colonialism in Nigeria and what happened just few years after they left

its not the institutions but the mentality of people Manning the institution

that's my submission
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by tonychristopher: 8:12pm On Aug 07, 2014
ooshinibos:


You are right , delusion is not an escape route as we must have to take responsibilty for our predicament and actions ...
so , the question is who are those ''We'' ? that are responsible for creating poverty and mayhem in Africa .
Another issue we did not mention is the wickedness and selfishness in our society , is this genetics as well , or it is just lack of understanding how the world works ...as you rightly said deluded leaders should not be the reason for lack of basic infrasrtucture that have evaded Nigeria year after year , with different and various electrification programs ..and we have not managed to produce 5000 MW to this day , why ?? ..something he definitely wrong .
I spoke to an official recently .. I asked him why infrastructure programs are never completed ?, he said because the money is not enough to round due to pkickbacks or bribes , i now told him , why cant they add extra money for this kickbacks and complete the project , i also told him that if they actually complete projects , people will like them , the government will make money via tax and the economy will benefit .....guess what ? he did not understand the logic and failed to see the benefit for all . if we start edutating the massing about good governance , and the benefits ..actually discussing government responsibilties and what to do if this things are not done ..maybe we see the change you are talking about .................

the white people are baffled that we are still in poverty with all that we are blessed with ...they are actually disappointed and thats why they will never respect us :-) ..some hate blacks because we have become dependents on their little resources ..

its a shame on us , we should be feeding them not the other way round ...

wetin you talk bruv

.

we Black's always blame somebody either we blame colonialism or we blame it on something flimsy like superstition.. do you know that today in northern Nigeria they are seeing education as an aberration.. they will not do immunizations neither will they allow census or allow people to choose their way of life

now tell me with a scene like this how can Nigeria move forward

today we still practise nomadic agriculture where cattle will be taken from a place to place instead of having them in ranches ...today we practise seasonal agriculture today you will see engineers in banks and doctors as electoral officers while lawyers are selling books

a whole lot of things is wrong

I think massive orientation is what matters

take a look at our stations today and tell me programmes that are focusing research and developments... just few what we get to see is music and dance shows

we are just dancing to our stupidity and its shameful

take a look at waec you will but weep for the black mind
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by logica(m): 8:47pm On Aug 07, 2014
tonychristopher:

he is Philip emeagwalli he was one of the founders of internet ....I know the discredited report sahara report did on him ...just because he is Igbo and black

what of Dr abakaka the HIV vaccine guy...they didn't believe him

what of engineer Izuogu that built the cars in 80s they killed his dream cos he is black and Igbo

so many instances ....I am an igbo but I am talking from black view point not trivial tribal

too much pull him down syndrome in us...irks me so bad
LMAO. The quote in bold highlights your idiocy; which is really responsible for your travails but I don't expect you to understand. Whether you like it or not, Emeagwali was a scam artist and was well exposed. I am sure you find this hard to believe as you are Igbo. Of course we know Igbos can never scam anybody. Igbos are very honest and hardworking.

Well, I have news for you; you are pro-Igbo and not pro-African; this is quite clear even if you try to hide it. It is in plain sight. As such, I will advise you to speak for Igbo only and not generalize too much.

Secondly, you strike me as the kind of guy that when told to "stick to his guns", will go find a few "Awka" rifles and use Super Glue to make them stick on him. If I want to speak like you, I will say this appears to be a malaise common where you come from.

If you marinate in my post and it doesn't make sense, I don't expect it to; to you that is. Just let it go.

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Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by tonychristopher: 8:55pm On Aug 07, 2014
logica: LMAO. The quote in bold highlights your idiocy; which is really responsible for your travails but I don't expect you to understand. Whether you like it or not, Emeagwali was a scam artist and was well exposed. I am sure you find this hard to believe as you are Igbo. Of course we know Igbos can never scam anybody. Igbos are very honest and hardworking.

Well, I have news for you; you are pro-Igbo and not pro-African; this is quite clear even if you try to hide it. It is in plain sight. As such, I will advise you to speak for Igbo only and not generalize too much.

Secondly, you strike me as the kind of guy that when told to "stick to his guns", will go find a few "Awka" rifles and use Super Glue to make them stick on him. If I want to speak like you, I will say this appears to be a malaise common where you come from.

If you marinate in my post and it doesn't make sense, I don't expect it to; to you that is. Just let it go.

Oga

if you can read this thread its not about weather Igbo Yoruba or Hausa are saints ..we are here for intellectual discourse and as you can see we are not abusive here

it will be be nice if you don't have anything meaningful to say on how we as black will be lifted out of the doldrums.. please stay by the sidelines and watch .

I hope this thread didn't offend your sensibilities.. if it did we apologize but here we don't call names we proffer solutions

thanks for your anticipated understanding and cooperation
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by logica(m): 8:58pm On Aug 07, 2014
tonychristopher:

it will be be nice if you don't have anything meaningful to say on how we as black will be lifted out of the doldrums.. please stay by the sidelines and watch .
Once again; you are not pro-Black/Africa; you are pro-Igbo. So stop deceiving yourself and stick to your domain. It's a friendly advise; as doing otherwise will seriously expose you FURTHER.
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by tonychristopher: 9:04pm On Aug 07, 2014
logica: Once again; you are not pro-Black/Africa; you are pro-Igbo. So stop deceiving yourself and stick to your domain. It's a friendly advise; as doing otherwise will seriously expose you FURTHER.

that is very OK Sir

if I am pro Igbo and igbos are blacks automatically I am pro blacks indirectly

have you ever encountered a subject called logic and deductive reasoning sir.

i think you will need a crash course on that

we are not Here to call one another names but to think way forward Oga

we know how you might feel but you have to change this mindset to your offline dealings with all due respect

thanks for your anticipated good behaviour here
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by logica(m): 9:12pm On Aug 07, 2014
tonychristopher:

if I am pro Igbo and igbos are blacks automatically I am pro blacks indirectly

have you ever encountered a subject called logic and deductive reasoning sir.


LMAO. You see why you have a hard time; yet you always think you are victimized because you are Igbo?

That same logical reasoning that you think you are an expert in exposes you right there.

How does pro Igbo => pro Black? Basically, you used logical reasoning to imply that a subset and a superset are one and the same. From many of your previous posts, you barely hid your hatred for a "tribe" you cannot name; the "tribe" at the heart of your problems (and this "tribe" happens to be a set of black people or not?) Obviously for someone who has a poor handle on logic, we can deduce the real heart of your problems - you.
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by tonychristopher: 9:14pm On Aug 07, 2014
logica: LMAO. You see why you have a hard time; yet you always think you are victimized because you are Igbo?

That same logical reasoning that you think you are an expert in exposes you right there.

How does pro Igbo => pro Black? Basically, you used logical reasoning to imply that a subset and a superset are one and the same. From many of previous posts, you barely hid your hatred for a "tribe" you cannot name; the "tribe" at the heart of your problems (and this "tribe" happens to be a set of black people or not?) Obviously for someone who has a poor handle on logic, we can deduce the real heart of your problems - you.
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by ooshinibos: 9:30pm On Aug 07, 2014
tonychristopher:

we Black's always blame somebody either we blame colonialism or we blame it on something flimsy like superstition.. do you know that today in northern Nigeria they are seeing education as an aberration.. they will not do immunizations neither will they allow census or allow people to choose their way of life

now tell me with a scene like this how can Nigeria move forward

today we still practise nomadic agriculture where cattle will be taken from a place to place instead of having them in ranches ...today we practise seasonal agriculture today you will see engineers in banks and doctors as electoral officers while lawyers are selling books

a whole lot of things is wrong

I think massive orientation is what matters

take a look at our stations today and tell me programmes that are focusing research and developments... just few what we get to see is music and dance shows

we are just dancing to our stupidity and its shameful

take a look at waec you will but weep for the black mind

na true you talk bruv ..we have to look into a black man mind , he definitely does not know how to rule a country or maybe does not understand the world
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by ooshinibos: 9:38pm On Aug 07, 2014
tonychristopher:

we Black's always blame somebody either we blame colonialism or we blame it on something flimsy like superstition.. do you know that today in northern Nigeria they are seeing education as an aberration.. they will not do immunizations neither will they allow census or allow people to choose their way of life

now tell me with a scene like this how can Nigeria move forward

today we still practise nomadic agriculture where cattle will be taken from a place to place instead of having them in ranches ...today we practise seasonal agriculture today you will see engineers in banks and doctors as electoral officers while lawyers are selling books

a whole lot of things is wrong

I think massive orientation is what matters

take a look at our stations today and tell me programmes that are focusing research and developments... just few what we get to see is music and dance shows

we are just dancing to our stupidity and its shameful

take a look at waec you will but weep for the black mind

check this out on you tube ..this pastor talked some truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtA685s_zUQ , let me know ya opinion [url]
tonychristopher:

we Black's always blame somebody either we blame colonialism or we blame it on something flimsy like superstition.. do you know that today in northern Nigeria they are seeing education as an aberration.. they will not do immunizations neither will they allow census or allow people to choose their way of life

now tell me with a scene like this how can Nigeria move forward

today we still practise nomadic agriculture where cattle will be taken from a place to place instead of having them in ranches ...today we practise seasonal agriculture today you will see engineers in banks and doctors as electoral officers while lawyers are selling books

a whole lot of things is wrong

I think massive orientation is what matters

take a look at our stations today and tell me programmes that are focusing research and developments... just few what we get to see is music and dance shows

we are just dancing to our stupidity and its shameful

take a look at waec you will but weep for the black mind

check this out on you tube ..this pastor talked some truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtA685s_zUQ , let me know ya opinion [/url]
tonychristopher:

we Black's always blame somebody either we blame colonialism or we blame it on something flimsy like superstition.. do you know that today in northern Nigeria they are seeing education as an aberration.. they will not do immunizations neither will they allow census or allow people to choose their way of life

now tell me with a scene like this how can Nigeria move forward

today we still practise nomadic agriculture where cattle will be taken from a place to place instead of having them in ranches ...today we practise seasonal agriculture today you will see engineers in banks and doctors as electoral officers while lawyers are selling books

a whole lot of things is wrong

I think massive orientation is what matters

take a look at our stations today and tell me programmes that are focusing research and developments... just few what we get to see is music and dance shows

we are just dancing to our stupidity and its shameful

take a look at waec you will but weep for the black mind

check this out on you tube ..this pastor talked some truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtA685s_zUQ , let me know ya opinion
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by tonychristopher: 9:44pm On Aug 07, 2014
ooshinibos:

na true you talk bruv ..we have to look into a black man mind , he definitely does not know how to rule a country or maybe does not understand the world

that's what I have been trying to ask all these while ..I feel that each set of human being and race should be able to apply solutions that is peculiar to their environment the Greek used democracy in their own light the americans have their own version of democracy called the presidential system now the Brits have the parliament where monarchy and democracy are interwoven the Chinese and Russians have their unique form of democracy then in Arabs the Saudis and Dubai have their own form of government nobody is disturbing them

now come to Africa we try to copy the american system and not knowing that we are not American . we should be able to find home made solutions for home made challenges

but to me I feel that the time we start looking inward the better. but the problem with Us is that we lack the ability to believe in ourselves always seeking help outside .

that is where we get it all wrong . we can make it. Dubai proved to the world that Arabs can be smart

china and Japanese proved to the world that the Asians or mongols can be smart

the Caucasians have gone far and place men in the moon

Nigeria can also prove that black man can be advanced but will internal bickering and bring him down syndrome help us.

the message I think we youth need is that we can make it only if we believe .

I don't want to believe that we are not at par with other races generically-genetically or intellectually
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by ooshinibos: 9:44pm On Aug 07, 2014
tonychristopher:

we Black's always blame somebody either we blame colonialism or we blame it on something flimsy like superstition.. do you know that today in northern Nigeria they are seeing education as an aberration.. they will not do immunizations neither will they allow census or allow people to choose their way of life

now tell me with a scene like this how can Nigeria move forward

today we still practise nomadic agriculture where cattle will be taken from a place to place instead of having them in ranches ...today we practise seasonal agriculture today you will see engineers in banks and doctors as electoral officers while lawyers are selling books

a whole lot of things is wrong

I think massive orientation is what matters

take a look at our stations today and tell me programmes that are focusing research and developments... just few what we get to see is music and dance shows

we are just dancing to our stupidity and its shameful

take a look at waec you will but weep for the black mind



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUohFqmGDwk[url]
tonychristopher:

we Black's always blame somebody either we blame colonialism or we blame it on something flimsy like superstition.. do you know that today in northern Nigeria they are seeing education as an aberration.. they will not do immunizations neither will they allow census or allow people to choose their way of life

now tell me with a scene like this how can Nigeria move forward

today we still practise nomadic agriculture where cattle will be taken from a place to place instead of having them in ranches ...today we practise seasonal agriculture today you will see engineers in banks and doctors as electoral officers while lawyers are selling books

a whole lot of things is wrong

I think massive orientation is what matters

take a look at our stations today and tell me programmes that are focusing research and developments... just few what we get to see is music and dance shows

we are just dancing to our stupidity and its shameful

take a look at waec you will but weep for the black mind



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUohFqmGDwk[/url]
tonychristopher:

we Black's always blame somebody either we blame colonialism or we blame it on something flimsy like superstition.. do you know that today in northern Nigeria they are seeing education as an aberration.. they will not do immunizations neither will they allow census or allow people to choose their way of life

now tell me with a scene like this how can Nigeria move forward

today we still practise nomadic agriculture where cattle will be taken from a place to place instead of having them in ranches ...today we practise seasonal agriculture today you will see engineers in banks and doctors as electoral officers while lawyers are selling books

a whole lot of things is wrong

I think massive orientation is what matters

take a look at our stations today and tell me programmes that are focusing research and developments... just few what we get to see is music and dance shows

we are just dancing to our stupidity and its shameful

take a look at waec you will but weep for the black mind



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUohFqmGDwk
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by Nobody: 2:10am On Aug 08, 2014
smoothsk: seems someone has being smoking a lot of God knows what.............lolz. dude dont take this personal, i read through your stuff i must confess some do make sense, its all about agreeing to disagree. You are not bound to agree with my views and neither am i bound to agree with wih yours.

My point is stop the insultive and name calling if you read a post that does not agree with your views kindly act the Bigger Man and read or ignore and move on. besides there are better ways to present your views without resorting to the use of crude remarks.

Not every rant deserve a response.......cheers
I haven't being smoking anything detrimental to my reasoning faculty at all. If you cannot make a meaningful notion on what I have said in my previous post that is your own problem not mine.

Let my correctional terms be. They aren't insulting rather they are meant to correct something about those who are aberrant in nature in this forum and that includes you.

Your last statement is very funny. I don't think it is going to change a thing about my views in this forum. Bwahaha...
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by Nobody: 8:35am On Aug 08, 2014
all4naija: I haven't being smoking anything detrimental to my reasoning faculty at all. If you cannot make a meaningful notion on what I have said in my previous post that is your own problem not mine.

Let my correctional terms be. They aren't insulting rather they are meant to correct something about those who are aberrant in nature in this forum and that includes you.

Your last statement is very funny. I don't think it is going to change a thing about my views in this forum. Bwahaha...

Not every Rant deserve a response. If you must comment on any of my post then tone down on your so called correctional terms............men na d english wey u too sabi dey worry u sha........lol
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by tonychristopher: 9:57am On Aug 09, 2014
smoothsk:

Not every Rant deserve a response. If you must comment on any of my post then tone down on your so called correctional terms............men na d english wey u too sabi dey worry u sha........lol

nice attitude

I love your enterprise and your business concept ..Airfresher please keep it up

I will call you or whatsapp you
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by Nobody: 11:27am On Aug 09, 2014
tonychristopher:

nice attitude

I love your enterprise and your business concept ..Airfresher please keep it up

I will call you or whatsapp you
.


Thanks a lot I do look forward to hear from you. Do have a nice weekend.
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by Nobody: 8:45am On Aug 10, 2014
smoothsk: .


Thanks a lot I do look forward to hear from you. Do have a nice weekend.
You are just an attention-seeking prick!I am not going to let you have that here.
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by Nobody: 1:31pm On Aug 10, 2014
all4naija:
You are just an attention-seeking prick!I am not going to let you have that here.


Jeez! Who is this caucasian wannabe? My child maintain your lane now make i dey my lane , abi we be siamese twins ni? Ogbeni free my matter na abi na so my matter dey wound u ni.....lolz
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by fightforchange1(f): 6:52pm On Aug 10, 2014
dark skin women and men are the best nothing like chocolate dark chocolate is really is really delicious and really great so yeah that's why I love like being wet its sold such as Pomeroy on black people nowadays I could never imagine being anything else but black.
But by the same token we're all human and we're all human beings and there's nothing I am NOT as no centric or any other kind of stuff and I think that all all races are on the wonderful and beautiful and where are the part of the human spectrum and I think it's wonderful to hear that and I think all the human the Elcor so who cares about being black because we're all human we all love each other were all the same inside all feel the same.
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by fightforchange1(f): 6:57pm On Aug 10, 2014
andy24: Black beauty. Black is our African Pride cheesy

yeyeah!!!!
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by fightforchange1(f): 7:01pm On Aug 10, 2014
Will you become accountable for our own actions and then we become accountable for the things we do and stop blaming other people s people will be able to to flourish to prosper to have wealth to have success
victimization.

t [quote authorall4naija]I haven't being smoking anything detrimental to my reasoning faculty at all. If you cannot make a meaningful notion on what I have said in my previous post that is your own problem not mine.

Let my correctional terms be. They aren't insulting rather they are meant to correct something about those who are aberrant in nature in this forum and that includes you.

Your last statement is very funny. I don't think it is going to change a thing about my views in this forum. Bwahaha...
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Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by fightforchange1(f): 7:07pm On Aug 10, 2014
fightforchange1: Will you become accountable for our own actions and then we become accountable for the things we do and stop blaming other people s people will be able to to flourish to prosper to have wealth to have success
victimization.

t

TAKE THE POWER BACK.
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by pro2010: 5:18pm On Aug 12, 2014
tonychristopher:

are these strong institutions not manned by human being ..what happened to the institutions when whites where in Zimbabwe and what happened when whites left

what happened to institutions when there was colonialism in Nigeria and what happened just few years after they left

its not the institutions but the mentality of people Manning the institution

that's my submission

You are getting it all wrong Sir.

An institution is any structure or mechanism of social order governing the behavior of a set of individuals within a given community. Institutions are identified with a social purpose, transcending individuals and intentions by mediating the rules that govern living behavior. This tells you that strong Institutions dictates the way a people must live.
There are certain ways of doing things that have been so knocked into you that you can not imagine it been done otherwise. Strong institutions pass down value from generation to generation, making it difficult for one person to go against the norm without been punished by the society.
The mentality of the people who man the institutions that you mentioned is formed by the institutions. The people who hold positions know by precedence what their actions would result to and how they would be treated or received by the society. So if the Institutions are set up with the right values the people who man them would have the right values. Of course there are social deviant in every society, this could be easily handled in a society with strong Institutions as they would stand out in the society, termed odd and punished but because of the weak Institutions in the Black societies, the ones who do the right thing seems to be the odd ones.
To your question what happened to the institutions in Nigeria and Zimbabwe after the whites left?
You probably did not see my previous post as to why a lot of Nigerians wished the British had stayed much longer in Nigeria, this is because they would have inculcated in Nigerians the culture of organization as they did in South Africa. Institutions are not made over night, and the ones left by the colonial masters in Nigeria where too young. Institution takes time to build and when built is almost indelible. The strength of Institutions lie in the number of persons that are willfully subject to its dictates. If you make Bloomberg or Clinton the President of Nigeria today, apart from having a white man in Aso rock, nothing is likely to change in Nigeria, and GEJ is more likely to succeed in White house because of the culture/values of people in White house and USA at large.
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by ooshinibos: 5:24pm On Aug 21, 2014
tonychristopher:

that's what I have been trying to ask all these while ..I feel that each set of human being and race should be able to apply solutions that is peculiar to their environment the Greek used democracy in their own light the americans have their own version of democracy called the presidential system now the Brits have the parliament where monarchy and democracy are interwoven the Chinese and Russians have their unique form of democracy then in Arabs the Saudis and Dubai have their own form of government nobody is disturbing them

now come to Africa we try to copy the american system and not knowing that we are not American . we should be able to find home made solutions for home made challenges

but to me I feel that the time we start looking inward the better. but the problem with Us is that we lack the ability to believe in ourselves always seeking help outside .

that is where we get it all wrong . we can make it. Dubai proved to the world that Arabs can be smart

china and Japanese proved to the world that the Asians or mongols can be smart

the Caucasians have gone far and place men in the moon

Nigeria can also prove that black man can be advanced but will internal bickering and bring him down syndrome help us.

the message I think we youth need is that we can make it only if we believe .

I don't want to believe that we are not at par with other races generically-genetically or intellectually

you have a point dont give up
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by Rivertemz: 5:35pm On Aug 21, 2014
tonychristopher: Culled from the book: What Is Wrong In Being Black?, written by Matthew Ashimolowo

My brother you need to watch Hidden Colours 1,2 and 3
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by tonychristopher: 6:00pm On Aug 21, 2014
Rivertemz:

My brother you need to watch Hidden Colours 1,2 and 3

Tell me about that
Re: What Is Wrong In Being Black? by Rivertemz: 6:08pm On Aug 21, 2014
tonychristopher:

Tell me about that

Hidden Colors is the name of an American documentary series. directed and produced by African-American scholars and academic proffesors on the racial concept and especially the African influence on the world.

To me It responds to your title;
What is wrong in Being Black? Nothing is wrong with being black, Something is wrong with feeling inferior when we don't educate ourselves about the world's link with the Black-African.

If you can watch youtube, search the film "Hidden Colors" and please watch the trailer for all three films; 1,2 & most recently the best so far- 3.

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