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The Ignorance Of Muslims by blissfullynaughty: 11:07pm On Nov 15, 2008
When ever I come to nairaland I sometimes come to the religion forum. I like the debates and the topics, I try to contribute whenever I feel I have something significant to say. I try as best as possible not insult anybody because I believe it achieves nothing.

Unfortunately, I can not say the same for a lot of people, especially Muslims.

If I have ever come across a group of people who do not have good etiquette's when holding a debate, I would have to say it is the Muslims all over the world. I don't know wether, it stems from insecurity, or inferiority complex, I feel the only method they use to get there point across is to threaten others who dare to question their religion and polygamist prophet. Unfortunately this problem seems to be consistent with almost ALL groups of Muslims (no names are necessary, I am sure we all know the way they behave - see all the death threats against Salman Rushdie, the Danish Cartoon saga, the destruction in Nigeria that resulted in the cancellation of the Miss World pageant).

It leaves me to think, that there is still so much that Islam does not teach you. You always talk about your Mohammed, but I put it to you that if a great number of you look at his teachings and conclude that he advocated violence and intolerance, you need to jettison your religion and get a better one. At the very least,  I believe a lot of you need to go back to the drawing board.

Now, there is an almost identical thread vilifying christains that was posted on the religion childboard by a muslim almost two weeks ago [See https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=190941.msg3037948#msg3037948]. None of the moderators has seen it fit to delete the thread, lock it or ban the person who started the thread. Let us hope that this thread would be accorded the same respect.

NB - To the moderators, it is a well known fact Mukina is a muslim, so do not try to pull the wool over anyones eyes by now locking or deleting that thread so that you can justify locking or deleting this one. Just leave both threads and let the debates rage on.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by mukina2: 11:27pm On Nov 15, 2008
Some of you sha undecided

you just like my name undecided

didn't you see the moderator there, did he not post in it angry


So what does my being a Muslim have to do with your topic?
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by olabowale(m): 11:40pm On Nov 15, 2008
@Blissfullynaughty: « on: Today at 11:07:27 PM »  

When ever I come to nairaland I sometimes come to the religion forum. I like the debates and the topics, I try to contribute whenever I feel I have something significant to say. I try as best as possible not insult anybody because I believe it achieves nothing.

Unfortunately, I can not say the same for a lot of people, especially Muslims.

Naughty girl. Birds do it, Bees do it. To say that only Muslims on nairaland is Insulting others, is a "blatant lie!" See I a a muslim, if you take my frank statement of observation as Insult. lol. Now we are getting to the meat of the discussion.



If I have ever come across a group of people who do not have good etiquette's when holding a debate, I would have to say it is the Muslims all over the world.

Then it must be the Muslims who fill out the house of Commons in England. If you ask me, they seem to be very rude, even to their Prime Minister! Have you ever seen them behave unruly before in the chamber?




I don't know wether, it stems from insecurity, or inferiority complex, I feel the only method they use to get there point across is to threaten others who dare to question their religion and polygamist prophet.

In the tradition of davidDylan: if you are not a muslim you have no right to speak ill about it. lol.
Now, is polygamy something you are against? Where are you from in Africa? Sorry, Nigeria? Even Igbo people can't boast that there is no polygamy in their culture. The Yorubas, which I am from is not always polygamous. And finally, not all the Muslim men are polygamous.

Muhammad (AS) served a very important marital example for all men. If one wee to follow Jesus, in this case, the whole of Christendon will be dead, by now. You will agree with me that Jesus can not be followed by any man in marital condition. And by the way, we love our Prophet, the Unlettered one, (AS), the way he was. Now whats your complaint; go get married, woman. Its fun. Make some babies and your parents will have grandbabies.



Unfortunately this problem seems to be consistent with almost ALL groups of Muslims (no names are necessary, I am sure we all know the way they behave - see all the death threats against Salman Rushdie, the Danish Cartoon saga, the destruction in Nigeria that resulted in the cancellation of the Miss World pageant).

Salman Rushdie even recounted his own statement. How unreal is that? he was like a skiddish guy, not even sure which way is up. And as I have said, the danish man, unless he was a Muslim, he had no right to criticise any muslim. Just the same way I am not criticising your religion. I may critic it, but that is different from Criticisng. One is honest opinion and observation, while the other is possibly lies. Which one are you practicing here?



It leaves me to think, that there is still so much that Islam does not teach you.

In your own word, give me a single example. lol.



You always talk about your Mohammed, but I put it to you that if a great number of you look at his teachings and conclude that he advocated violence and intolerance,

No muslim, in his right mind will reach the silly opinion that you put forward, as a conclusion of what the Nobliest of prophets taught! How can you honestly conclude any advocacy of violence and intolerance from him?



you need to jettison your religion and get a better one. At the very least,  I believe a lot of you need to go back to the drawing board.

You miss the mark, woman. So get back to the drawing board, yourself! lol. This woman must be a regular comedian. I need to get her to perform at the Improv!



Now, there is an almost identical thread vilifying chriatains that was posted on the religion childboard by a muslim almost two weeks ago [See https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=190941.msg3037948#msg3037948]. None of the moderators has seen it fit to delete the thread, lock it or ban the person who started the thread. Let us hope that this thread would be accorded the same respect.

If you were going to be consistent with the other thread, you should have posted this on Christian section.



NB - To the moderators, it is a well known fact that both of you are muslims, so do not try to pull the wool over anyones eyes by now locking or deleting that thread so that you can justify locking or deleting this one. Just leave both threads and let the debates rage on.

lol. So blissfullynaughty, how can you be naughty and be blissful at the same time?
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by blissfullynaughty: 12:34am On Nov 16, 2008
mukina2:

Some of you sha undecided

you just like my name undecided

didn't you see the moderator there, did he not post in it angry


So what does my being a Muslim have to do with your topic?

It's nothing personal. I just wanted to be sure that this thread enjoyed the same free speech and respect the other one created by a muslim had. And since you are the only moderator who covers both childboards, I do not want you to take a hardline on this particular thread simply because it queries muslims when you didn't do so with a parallel thread that was directed against christians.

@ Olabowale, save all your ridiculous biased questions for your religious brethren. This post is a replica of the other one posted by a muslim, but with modifications to make it suitable to Islam and it's practitioners.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by olabowale(m): 5:54pm On Nov 16, 2008
You couldn't attempt to answer them. So they became ridiculous and biased. Seun, Okare. Is this the same Seun. The " " of Ijebuland? Omo Obanta. I think. We de answer questions mi.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by babs787(m): 8:26pm On Nov 16, 2008
@blissfullynaughty



When ever I come to nairaland I sometimes come to the religion forum. I like the debates and the topics, I try to contribute whenever I feel I have something significant to say. I try as best as possible not insult anybody because I believe it achieves nothing.


Good, you know that.

Unfortunately, I can not say the same for a lot of people, especially Muslims.

Really? You are not being sincere to yourself. You can go to your threads and see whats happening among the contributors.


If I have ever come across a group of people who do not have good etiquette's when holding a debate, I would have to say it is the Muslims all over the world.

All over the world shocked. How many have you debated with and where? I have witnessed lots of debates between muslims and christians and can conveniently tell you that you statement up lacks credibility, its a lie.


I don't know wether, it stems from insecurity, or inferiority complex, I feel the only method they use to get there point across is to threaten others who dare to question their religion and polygamist prophet.

If you want to debate or discuss my religion with me, you are welcome. If its even my prophet, you are welcome as well. There is nothing like inferiority complex or insecurity. Quran is online for you to read and Hadith as well. You can do the reading and come back here with issues to treat and I would oblige you. If you really want to debate Islam with me or any other muslim, then you try to be humble and respectful as respect begets respect and when you do thatm you would surely be taught all about Islam.


Unfortunately this problem seems to be consistent with almost ALL groups of Muslims (no names are necessary, I am sure we all know the way they behave - see all the death threats against Salman Rushdie, the Danish Cartoon saga, the destruction in Nigeria that resulted in the cancellation of the Miss World pageant).

All group of muslims ke? Which do you know. Do you really believe in what SR said and did the Cartoonist had to go that far though I didnt support the killing that erupted as a result of it? Now do you as a christian support the Miss world pageant? Does it have any scriptural backing? Does the bible allow you dress and expose your nudity?

It leaves me to think, that there is still so much that Islam does not teach you. You always talk about your Mohammed, but I put it to you that if a great number of you look at his teachings and conclude that he advocated violence and intolerance, you need to j[b]ettison your religion and get a better one. [/b]At the very least,  I believe a lot of you need to go back to the drawing board.

Do you care to show me fact from your emboldened statement and we discuss? Hope you are aware of my background and you shouldnt come here with your allegation up because I would take you through OT and NT and down to Jesus but thats not what we are here to discuss. So I would be happy if you could supply intolerance and violence he advocated.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by reindeer: 11:00pm On Nov 26, 2008
blissfully you!
dont be deceived by the 'respect begets respect' mantra, all fangs will come out whenever you challenge islamic beliefs.
the voilence will come at you, first verbally then if you keep on the threats of physical violence will follow, its happened many times already, ask pilgrim 1 and even seun himself.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by ayinba1(f): 7:13pm On Nov 27, 2008
@reindeer

Your born againism don diminish so fast. I knew once the opium wore off, your true colors will show again. Anyways, keep coming to our board, you will find the truth and it will surely set you free.

@blisswhat

yours is the most unfair/partial/untruthful assesment that I have read on NL is a while.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by reindeer: 10:37pm On Nov 27, 2008
eeeeeew!

here comes the fangs,and the venom. cheesy
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by dayokanu(m): 7:38am On Nov 28, 2008
All group of muslims ke? Which do you know. Do you really believe in what SR said and did the Cartoonist had to go that far though I didnt support the killing that erupted as a result of it? Now do you as a christian support the Miss world pageant? Does it have any scriptural backing? Does the bible allow you dress and expose your nudity?

My religion does not permit nudity but does not allow me to kill anyone who wants it.

Example when they brought the prostitute to Jesus and they wanted to stone her He told them "Let who without a sin cast the first stone" after they all left in shame, He told the woman to go and sin no more!!!

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

9:123 Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.

An explanation for these verses pls Olabowale They are disturbing to me
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by bilms(m): 1:03pm On Nov 28, 2008
@poster

i am very sure u a hypocrits.


u only say this to get attention.

now listen.

islam teaches peace, manners and well behaveour.

but u christians cause alot of problem with lack of knowledge, no says crazy things aand do u expect us the muslim to jst keep quit and watch u critizise our religion or prophet? no we wont.

we were tought to live peacefully with everybody, but when u critizise us without no genuine reason or knowldge, then we fight back by attacking u with our own view.

thats all.

jst check my post difference between christian and muslim and one other post titled (who is God)and see the responds of many christians.

thats bad of u christians
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by babs787(m): 1:14pm On Nov 28, 2008
@Dayokanu

My religion does not permit nudity but does not allow me to kill anyone who wants it.

Which religion are you talking about? Does your religion has any particular dressing code because I read in one of your threads argument on wearing of trousers by ladies and plaiting of hair by men. What does your religion consider as nudity?


Example when they brought the prostitute to Jesus and they wanted to stone her He told them "Let who without a sin cast the first stone" after they all left in shame, He told the woman to go and sin no more!!!

Meaning what sir? When you are able to provide explanation to that, we would try and look at the indepth meaning of that statement.

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Allah commands Muslims to stand up for themselves in a defensive battle to repel opression. If an enemy attacks,  Muslims are to fight against the enemy until the enemy stops its aggression.

Dayokanu, I learnt that most of you ignorantly lift verses out of context forgetting to read the verse preceding it but here are the verses for clarification.

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevails justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression" (2:190-193).

We can see from the above that its a defensive war being discussed here when Muslim is being attacked without reason, opressed and not allowing them to practice their faith. When these happen, Muslims are allowed to fight back but even despite their fighting back (Muslims), they are not allowed to trangress limit and should stop fighting once the enemies stop.


When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5


The above verse, just like the one you first gave was taken out of context. However, we would the clearer picture by reading the preceding verses:

9v4:If the idol worshipers sign a peace treaty with you, and do not violate it, nor band together with others against you, you shall fulfill your treaty with them until the expiration date. GOD loves the righteous.

9v5: Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) you may kill the idol worshipers when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

9v6: If one of the idol worshipers sought safe passage with you, you shall grant him safe passage, so that he can hear the word of GOD, then send him back to his place of security. That is because they are people who do not know.

This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Lots of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty and secretly aiding the enemy attack agaimst the Muslims.

The verse 4 which happens to be before verse 5 instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them and the verse continues that anyone that violated the treaties has declared war and must be fought. Allah instructs that if they repent, establish regular praywers and charity, then open the way for them to go.


[9:123] O you who believe, you shall fight the disbelievers who attack you - let them find you stern - and know that GOD is with the righteous.

The above is just like the others as well. Note the enboldened words therein.

The below verse summarises all that seems uclear to you

60 v8: God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."

@Dayokanu

When you are back, here are verses for you:

Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

Deuteronomy 17:3-5 "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, , a[b]nd you must stone such one with stones and such one must die.[/b]"

Matthew 15v4 For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction[b], they should be put to death without fail. [/b] They should pelt them to death with stones. Their own blood is upon them."

Let me stop here cos there are lots of terror stories in your book
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by arramyjay: 1:19pm On Dec 01, 2008
@ poster

There are some words you should never use or write,when it comes to religion.If i were you i will learn about the religion.Now your thread content doesnt have anything to with the topic.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by olabowale(m): 2:32pm On Dec 01, 2008
@Dayokanu: « #9 on: November 28, 2008, 07:38 AM »

My religion does not permit nudity but does not allow me to kill anyone who wants it.

So all those cleavage exposing, bum bum short, butt crack exposing, high thighexposing clothing from Christian women, and the so tight pants detailing the family Jewels from both men and women are not nudity? Am sure you remember the Yoruba proverb about " Firi firi; a form of nudity." How do you dress up, if you think there is no Nudity in Christianity? Tell me if Christianity, the Bible does not actually encourages the uncovering of women's hair? I hope you remember that every goes in as long as you believe in "the death and ressurrection, etc!" Even you can eat anything; including mice, dress up well. lol. You remember the "poke in a blanket; thats some food for you, buddy."



Example when they brought the prostitute to Jesus and they wanted to stone her He told them "Let who without a sin cast the first stone" after they all left in shame, He told the woman to go and sin no more!!!

We are talking about Christianity. Is Jesus a Christian? Answer: No. If you can prove me wrong I will give you a huge reward. If you cant, then you need to start wearing jalabiya; thats my only demand on you.



Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Dayo, if I show you from your Bible that Jesus is a first class Jihadist, what will you do? I want you to promise that you will come to Islam, if from your Bible, I show you where Jesus demanded the death of his enemies in front of him. What about the purchases of swords?



When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

As long as they are against you. If they are making your life miserable, you have the right to make theirs just as miserable. You live in USA. have you forgotten the "preemptive strike position of the leadership of the free world?" Why would you expect anything less from Islam, especially when what America has going for her is "freedom and not morality?" Who commanded America on this, except themselves? Allah is the Commander of what you find in the Qur'aan.

The same Allah who commanded Moses to war on all the enemies of the Children of israel on the way to settle in Palestine. Or you don't believe that Pharaoh was perished by Allah (The God of Moses)? Or you don't believe that Moses destroyed many a nations on the way to Palestine, after they left Egypt?

Is it any surprise that Jesus was sent to change the tempo of the "always blood thirsty people?" At the same time, it is unnatural for humans to practice "I will turn my other cheek" in all cases. That why Muhammad was allowed to fight appropriately, without going beyond the boundary. He was aso allowed to forgive just as well. Human beings have many temperaments and Islam expresses them very clearly.

I remember I simply misspoke by writing your name incorrectly, and what I heard from you was a mouthful. Now tell me were you following Jesus in that instance, or just reacting as naturally acceptable? You see why the legendary statement of turning the other cheek is almost impossible? Just imagine Hulk hogan, in his hay days smacking your face with full force. Will you be willing to turn the other cheek, but to just run away from him, if you have the energy to do so?



9:123 Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.

Since they make wars on the "believers!" This is natural stance of human societies; America is fighting those who fight them. I remember the Christian hymms in High sv chool's morning devotions; Fight the good fight with all your might. Christ is the power and christ the , You know it and I have forgotten. What about the "Christian soldier hymms?



An explanation for these verses please Olabowale They are disturbing to me

They have been explained, to you now. What will you do to save your own soul, my brother in Humanity? I am eager to show you from the gospel of John where Jesus demand that his enemies be brought to his face and be slained. I think this will help you to know that Islam is the religion of Jesus, who was never a Christian.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by ayomorocco(f): 5:17am On Dec 05, 2008
undecided
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by TrueBrit: 6:05am On Dec 05, 2008
@ Olabowale, you call all these shoddy excuses an explanation? All you did was side step the issue comparing the violence advocated in your Quran to every scenario you could dig up. Just admit the basic fact. You religio advocates violence.

olabowale:

We are talking about Christianity. Is Jesus a Christian? Answer: No. If you can prove me wrong I will give you a huge reward. If you can't, then you need to start wearing jalabiya; thats my only demand on you.

I think this will help you to know that Islam is the religion of Jesus, who was never a Christian.

How foolish can you be? You have ranted and ranted until you spewed forth trash.

Jesus Christ could not be a christian because the religion is modelled on him. Thus christians are supposed to be Christ like and christianity is the art of being like Christ i.e. the practice of Jesus Christ's doctrines and principle (acting in a manner like Jesus Christ did).

Did your Quran tell you that Jesus was a muslim? what a friggin joke. I guess your Mohammed came before Jesus to this world then huh? LMAO. . . You guys forget that your Quran tells you that Jesus is actually the son of God (or rather, you always attempt to brush that very important fact under the carpet).
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by olabowale(m): 12:57am On Dec 06, 2008
@Tru Brit:

How foolish can you be? You have ranted and ranted until you spewed forth trash.

I wonder whats foolish about my telling you that Allah is the Lord and God of Jesus. All you have to do is to disproof my statement wth verifiable statement. Your Bible even records that Jesus said "Eloi (Sounds like Allah and not father or Jehovah or Yahweh) on the cross.



Jesus Christ could not be a christian because the religion is modelled on him.

Whats his religion? Thats the question I have.




Thus christians are supposed to be Christ like and christianity is the art of being like Christ i.e. the practice of Jesus Christ's doctrines and principle (acting in a manner like Jesus Christ did).

So if I take you on about the things that you do that is against Jesus command, what will you say? Its eaither you are a deficient follower or you disregard Jesus, completely? Which one do you think you are? Finally, somebody other than Jesus made up the religion called Christianity, wont you say?



Did your Quran tell you that Jesus was a muslim?

Yes.




what a friggin joke. I guess your Mohammed came before Jesus to this world then huh? LMAO. . .

I guess the joke is on you. The science of DNA came after the knowledge of physiology. And that made Biology even better. I guess DNA is inferior because it came later, huh? Is Jesus then important than Moses, since he came later than Moses?




You guys forget that your Quran tells you that Jesus is actually the son of God (or rather, you always attempt to brush that very important fact under the carpet).

I want you to quote that very verse for me, from the Qur'aan. Oh, maybe the "furqan" that Shorish, the Palestian Christian made up, you will find such mad statement in. Not the Qur'aan that we Muslims read, unchanging right from the time of Muhammad.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by tumfulu1: 1:05am On Dec 06, 2008
All of you here are very very stupid to even try to question anybody else's religion.
Idiots.
What makes you, whether Christian or Muslim, think your way is better?
Do your own and shut the mess up.
Stupid donkeys.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by MrCrackles(m): 1:06am On Dec 06, 2008
tumfulu don kill me ooo grin
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by Kweenisha: 1:08am On Dec 06, 2008
tumfulu.:

All of you here are very very stupid to even try to question anybody else's religion.
Idiots.
What makes you, whether Christian or Muslim, think your way is better?
Do your own and shut the mess up.
Stupid donkeys.

look at this 50 year old Okirika dealer
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by arramyjay: 3:58am On Dec 06, 2008
tumfulu.:

All of you here are very very stupid to even try to question anybody else's religion.
Idiots.
What makes you, whether Christian or Muslim, think your way is better?
Do your own and shut the mess up.
Stupid donkeys.

Ok i have to write this though i would rather drink from the bladder of a baboon than write ever again.

This is the most (mean level 50%) thing and sensible thing graceless has ever written.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by babs787(m): 2:39pm On Dec 06, 2008
@Tru Brit

Welcome onboard cheesy

Did you in any way read my response to DayoKanu? If you did, you wouldnt be questionining Olabowale's post as the verses you hide under have been explained but I would still flip through your post.

How foolish can you be? You have ranted and ranted until you spewed forth trash.

Let me read from whom the knowledge is bestowed grin saying someone is foolish.

Jesus Christ could not be a christian because the religion is modelled on him.

What religion are you talking about when he never heard the word christian nor brought any belief different from those before him.

If Jesus happens to be a christian, what are the religion of those before him as our God is not author of confusion, giving prophets and messengers different religions, beliefs and doctrines.

Thus christians are supposed to be Christ like and christianity is the art of being like Christ i.e. the practice of Jesus Christ's doctrines and principle (acting in a manner like Jesus Christ did).

What do you mean by christlike? Are you referring to God of the OT or NT because some of your folks claimed that Jesus is God and going through the bible, one would see that God of the OT is quite different from that of NT and shared different personalities. When you even read your NT (thats where you like running to when discussing issues), you would see that Jesus didnt want to die and trued putting up a defence.

Did your Quran tell you that Jesus was a muslim? what a friggin joke. I guess your Mohammed came before Jesus to this world then huh?


Its not a joke brother, it is the fact. Jesus is a muslim likewise those before him. Could you bring up a verse from your book that shows that he is a muslim and I would give you verses showing you that He is a muslim from my book. Also if he is a christian, what of those before him as God couldnt have sent them with different messages.

Point of correction, Jesus came before him and Muhammed (saw) is the last prophet.


LMAO. . . You guys forget that your Quran tells you that Jesus is actually the son of God (or rather, you always attempt to brush that very important fact under the carpet).\

Please, share the verse with me, please, please, please. I want to learn from you.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by Lagosboy: 12:44pm On Dec 23, 2008
Surprising how blissfulnaughty put this thread on and never came back to defend her comment that doesnt even match the thread topic.

Intelligence is indeed expensive!!
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by nanayisha: 9:59am On Dec 30, 2008
Yet you have displayed another form of ignorance which I posted in my original post "The Ignorance of Christians", plagiarism.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by muhsin(m): 1:01pm On Dec 30, 2008
Lagosboy:

Surprising how blissfulnaughty put this thread on and never came back to defend her comment that doesnt even match the thread topic.

Intelligence is indeed expensive!!

Good observation, Lagosboy.

Thats another ignorance portrayal!
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by ibrahim007: 2:27am On Jan 11, 2009
@ poster
"look before you leap"
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by earTHMama: 9:13am On Jan 11, 2009
In the tradition of davidDylan: if you are not a muslim you have no right to speak ill about it. lol.
Now, is polygamy something you are against? Where are you from in Africa? Sorry, Nigeria? Even Igbo people can't boast that there is no polygamy in their culture. The Yorubas, which I am from is not always polygamous. And finally, not all the Muslim men are polygamous.

Only muslim and fake/non christian Yorubas entertain polygamy. undecided
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by nanayisha: 2:27pm On Jan 15, 2009
earTHMama:

Only muslim and fake/non christian Yorubas entertain polygamy. undecided

Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.

In Deuteronomy 21:15 "If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons, "

There are a lot more verses from the Old Testament that allow polygamy, but I think that the above are sufficient.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by karo93: 12:02pm On Feb 05, 2010
olabowale:


Whats his religion? Thats the question I have.

jesus was a jew,he practiced judaism and worshipped in the temple. if your qur'an tells you he was a muslim then that is showing that the book is LYING
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by muhsin(m): 1:28pm On Feb 05, 2010
karo93:

jesus was a jew,he practiced judaism and worshipped in the temple. if your qur'an tells you he was a muslim then that is showing that the book is LYING

smiley

Intelligence is indeed expensive, as said Lagosboy.
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by alimat2(f): 1:04pm On Mar 04, 2010
And the ignorance continue

@poster and All,

U be d judged and dnt be a bias judge go through the religion section and check the largest population of posters who trade with insult and ensure u name them one by one
Re: The Ignorance Of Muslims by Nobody: 2:40pm On Mar 08, 2010
a regular muslim has dis tendencies just like their father (mohamed)-aggression verbal-women,physical -men
men-perversed polygamist
women -pretense e.g wearing dat their ridiculous black cloth dat covers their face,ears,head down to their feet n even with black socks while inside their black masquerade like cloth is some skimpy skirt n revealing blouse dey'll say dey r going 2 d mosque 2 pray mean while dey'll pull off all d nonesense dey wear as soon as dey gey 2 their boyfriends house while d original cloth dey wore inside becomes visible,after all d sex dey've gone 4 in their boyfriends house dey put on dat gown n feign innocence back home,dat usually happens because dia husbands marry like 3 or 4 wives while d husband is satisfying one so well at d expense of d other ones grin grin grin ;Ddey tink dey r deceving us dey dont know its their self dey r deceiving

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