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Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by chi101: 10:24am On Jan 26, 2009
I hereby propose that the whole nation should be given 2 weeks public holiday with the president. Afterall, no be only one man sabi enjoy bo! grin
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by ilaugh1: 10:28am On Jan 26, 2009
You guys are so un educated, foolish and stupid - even you, a common office worker deserves to go on leave, why is it a bad thing when the office of the President also goes on leave? Why are you all so ignorant and stupid? who says he is going on leave for health reasons?
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by BOSS7: 11:35am On Jan 26, 2009
i_laugh:

You guys are so un educated, foolish and stupid - even you, a common office worker deserves to go on leave, why is it a bad thing when the office of the President also goes on leave? Why are you all so ignorant and stupid? who says he is going on leave for health reasons?

@ i_clown

I'll not waste my time posting anything new regarding this.just what someone has said before

"If the President don go holiday, make him explain to us why him they go 2weeks holiday in the midst of Economic crisis.

Otherwise David Mark must look for 5 doctors to unseath this man. 150 million people and Nigeria is bigger than one man."
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by CrudeOil2(m): 11:49am On Jan 26, 2009
This man should resign. He should know that his health is deteriorating by the day and he can no longer cope with the stress of ruling a troubled country like Nigeria. It would be disastrous if he dies while in office.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by ilaugh1: 11:59am On Jan 26, 2009
if i have the opportunity - I wil slap all these goats making comments just because a man seeks two weeks leave which is constituionally his right - fools.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by BOSS7: 12:12pm On Jan 26, 2009
i_laugh:

if i have the opportunity - I wil slap all these goats making comments just because a man seeks two weeks leave which is constituionally his right - fools.

i_clown

I bet you are really a clown in the real world.

cheesy
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by bsanya(f): 12:19pm On Jan 26, 2009
To be candid with ourselves our president is having problem with his health and the earlier the better. Let him go oversees 4 proper treatment and let the house pray 4 him." irorun eeeku ni irorun eye"[color=#000099][/color]
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by bsanya(f): 12:22pm On Jan 26, 2009
To be candid with ourselves our president is having problem with his health and the earlier the better. Let him go oversees 4 proper treatment and let the house pray 4 him." "[color=#000099][/color]
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by ilaugh1: 1:00pm On Jan 26, 2009
You have not yet said or given any tangible reason to adduce or deduce that it is wrong for the President to go for a two weeks leave, you need to give a very meaningful reason to justify why this is wrong, and to justify why this provision whould be taken from the Nigerian Constitution - if you dont have cogent reasons apart from the one give by someone called B. O. S. S. - which is - whi is he going on holiday in the midst of economic crisis - if you dont have better reasons, then simply shut up.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by SkyBlue1: 1:17pm On Jan 26, 2009
i_laugh:

You have not yet said or given any tangible reason to adduce or deduce that it is wrong for the President to go for a two weeks leave, you need to give a very meaningful reason to justify why this is wrong, and to justify why this provision whould be taken from the Nigerian Constitution - if you dont have cogent reasons apart from the one give by someone called B. O. S. S. - which is - whi is he going on holiday in the midst of economic crisis - if you dont have better reasons, then simply shut up.

@i_laugh let me just assume you cannot understand why people might be furious at this announcement and break it down for you.
What has Yar Adua done or achieved since he got into power about 20 months ago?
That right there is the issue and i might as well throw in the "how many sick leaves has he had?" question.
Now let us draw a parrallel in real life and for a sec forget the fact that we are talking of the president of a whole nation, say you work in a company and you continue to show such unproductivity when there are a mountain of things to address, and you keep taking sick leave. What do you think the outcome of such will be? Do you think you would still have a job to go back to at the end of the day and if so do you think you won't be expected to go out of your way to make up for your absense?

Now let us come back to reality. How many issues need to be addressed on the federal scale? How many issues just require the instigation of new policies? How many of the problems met on the first day of office by Mr President have been addressed and how many schemes or roadmaps with regards to the much vaunted "7 point agenda" have been implemented or even taught of or announced? Again, this is the president of a whole country and we are happy with childs play? Acceptance of such lacklustre performance with anything in the way of repremandation seems to be nothing short of accepting that there will be no progress for the next 2 years and being content with that.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by SweetT1: 1:49pm On Jan 26, 2009
I don't know why there is so much noise about Yar'adua going on a 2 week break, when Nigeria herself has been in a Coma from day one. Yeye people.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by otukpo(f): 3:16pm On Jan 26, 2009
I never knew that it is wrong for any working human being to go on leave.

Even if it is for medical treatment, is anything wrong with it?

It is just paining some people that this Yar Adua they've been wishing dead refused to die. And he will not die in Jesus Name.

I wld prefer a president who is slow but takes right decisions and does things right than one who is fast in taking wrong decisions, looting, corrupt and does things wrong.

How many times have u rumoured that Yar Adua was dead. Life and death are not in our hands so u shldn't be wishing him dead.

And for those that think Yar Adua has been on leave since April 2007, its ur opinion and u have have a right to it.

The president needs our spport.

God bless us all.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by londoner: 3:33pm On Jan 26, 2009
I think the average Nigerian here is being very heartless, this man has just recently had a kidney transplant, its logical that he would need at least a checkup to make sure the body is not rejecting the kidney. If you ask me, he went back to duty far too soon in the first place.

People calling for him to go have a very short memory, do you remember the alternatives to this man as president? Did you vote for them, did you want any one of them to be president? If your answer is no, then you need to come back down to reality. Yaradua may be slow to action, but slow and steady will win the race, because I believe his heart is in the right place. If the average Nigerian stopped needing to be babysat by the very people they claim to detest, you would not feel the country would collapse if Mr president is absent for just two weeks.

Why dont you call back babangida, Obasanjo or the others who will only leave the country a few days at a time to embezzle money, I'm sure they'll be free.
Nigerians have developed an addiction to criticising, just for the sake of it.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by ilaugh1: 4:29pm On Jan 26, 2009
Even if Jesus Christ was to rule Nigeria, there will be criticisms against HIM, so why should a mere mortal worry about all these?

I am sure if Obama's Dad were to be Nigerian, he wont have a chance in hell to get to where he is now.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by BOSS7: 4:33pm On Jan 26, 2009
i_laugh:

Even if Jesus Christ was to rule Nigeria, there will be criticisms against HIM, so why should a mere mortal worry about all these?

I am sure if Obama's Dad were to be Nigerian, he wont have a chance in hell to get to where he is now.

Whatever floats your boat Mr Hi clown.

***rolls eyes**
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by Kobojunkie: 4:36pm On Jan 26, 2009
londoner:

I think the average Nigerian here is being very heartless, this man has just recently had a kidney transplant, its logical that he would need at least a checkup to make sure the body is not rejecting the kidney. If you ask me, he went back to duty far too soon in the first place.

People calling for him to go have a very short memory, do you remember the alternatives to this man as president? Did you vote for them, did you want any one of them to be president? If your answer is no, then you need to come back down to reality. Yaradua may be slow to action, but slow and steady will win the race, because I believe his heart is in the right place. If the average Nigerian stopped needing to be babysat by the very people they claim to detest, you would not feel the country would collapse if Mr president is absent for just two weeks.

Why dont you call back babangida, Obasanjo or the others who will only leave the country a few days at a time to embezzle money, I'm sure they'll be free.
Nigerians have developed an addiction to criticising, just for the sake of it.


Please tell me you are joking? The same man was governor in Katsina for 8 solid years and go to the state to see that he did next to nothing to build a top class health system in all that time, at least so we can say something good came out of his illness. Now Nigerians are the heartless ones for asking him to step off instead of taking more time off, when this man has been in office almost 2 years and what we have is more decay and next to no development in all that time? He is slow to action, meaning it takes him almost 2 years to accomplish anything and you think what you have posted here makes sense? Are you serious?
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by londoner: 5:08pm On Jan 26, 2009
Kobojunkie, if you are going to criticise a man in his current post, his misgivings should be in that present post. What evil has he really done in his post as current president to warrant the criticism, other than being slow to action as some call it?

That is the issue, not what he may not have done in Katsina. Like I said, why didn't you make sure the other shining examples of presidential candidates were put in place instead, who were they again?

I am not joking at all. At the very worst, this president was the best of the bad bunch, at best he is a man who is slowly trying to make a change in the midst of vultures.

He is just one man after all, and Nigeria is not a place you can change overnight, two years is literally overnight when you talk about type of changes which the average Nigerian wants to feel.

It is heartless for people not to understand that a person who has recently undergone a kidney transplant may need to take a few weeks off, yes its heartless.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jan 26, 2009
Its one of the oriented planned plot for the vice to pilot the ,
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by Kobojunkie: 5:23pm On Jan 26, 2009
londoner:

Kobojunkie, if you are going to criticise a man in his current post, his misgivings should be in that present post. What evil has he really done in his post as current president to warrant the criticism, other than being slow to action as some call it?

a) His inaction during the Global Food crisis that helped see to it that even more Nigerians were plunged into poverty in the past year alone.

b) His inaction when it comes to providing amenities that has so far continued to pull that whole country into the stone age even in this new year

c)     His inaction in the area of developing Health services in that country is by far the greatest evil of them all

Do you need me to continue or are these not evil enough? I am sorry but in my world, no action at all is just as evil as stealing from the people.


londoner:

That is the issue, not what he may not have done in Katsina. Like I said, why didn't you make sure the other shining examples of presidential candidates were elected instead, who were they again?

Oh!! I should criticize yar adua in his current post but those before him in their previous posts?? ROFLMAO!!!


londoner:

I am not joking at all. At the very worst, this president was the best of the bad bunch, at best he is a man who is slowly trying to make a change in the midst of vultures.

Lol  . . . . classic excuse. Isn’t it time you switch over to some new excuse? This man is president and so I hold him accountable for the inaction I see during HIS ADMINISTRATION. Kapish?

londoner:

He is just one man after all, and Nigeria is not a place you can change overnight, two years is literally overnight when you talk about type of changes which the average Nigerian wants to feel.

Again, He is Leader of Nigeria . . . PRESIDENT. Stop trying to feed me excuses and give me something more substantial here for once. He understood from the beginning that it is his job to ensure that he creates change at all cost. That is what a president does and that is why a president has as much power as he can get to ensure he has no excuses for not getting the job done.

londoner:

It is heartless for people not to understand that a person who has recently undergone a kidney transplant may need to take a few weeks off, yes its heartless.

Oh please !!. . . Cry me a river, won't you?
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by mustafar1: 5:38pm On Jan 26, 2009
if taking 2weeks off for rest in his country home is what the case is, sure why not. but taking 2 weeks off to go to another mans country for a checkup on his surgery should be a shame to his administration. if the national hospital in assHoles rock isnt equiped enough to perform a checked on the president or take it a step further. if the president of a country needs to be flown out of his own country for anything medical reason. it is unacceptable and that govt has failed itself.

national security issue ni ele yi now. look beyond sick or not sick. kidney transplant or not.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by londoner: 5:40pm On Jan 26, 2009
Kobojunkie, I did not say you should crititise anyone, what I am trying to get you to tell me is who of the other  presidential options,  did you want to replace him ? please tell me.

I really cant say that in two short years the situation with food shortage would have been averted, this is a culmination of years of neglect in agriculture and industry.

As far as amenities, in country of 150 million, now, do you really think in two years the problem will have been solved? Realistically now? I'm not even sure if these things are in capability of the president as an individual. Noonme is saying more could not have been done by thegovernment as a whole and him as president, but come on you are expecting rome to be build in a day and by one man.

Well, there is inaction, and there is laying framework for sustainable change later, what we are seeing now is one of the two. You say you are holding him accountable, fine, but maybe your expectations were unrealistic in the first place.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by tpia: 5:45pm On Jan 26, 2009
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Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by Kobojunkie: 5:51pm On Jan 26, 2009
londoner:

Kobojunkie, I did not say you should crititise anyone, what I am trying to get you to tell me is who of the other  presidential options,  did you want to replace him ? please tell me.

What presidential options do you have? You mean the only choice you see for president, in that country, are those before him who have equally shown themselves to be UNFIT in all ways for the job? May I suggest you broaden your scope please.

londoner:

I really cant say that in two short years the situation with food shortage would have been averted, this is a culmination of years of neglect in agriculture and industry.

Averted? Is that all you can say in response to that ?  WOW!!

londoner:

As far as amenities, in country of 150 million, now, do you really think in two years the problem will have been solved? Realistically now?

Solved? Lol . . . . Where did you read that in my post? Where did you see me use the word SOLVED in my post. Can you please stay in focus here. Where did I say he needed to SOLVE anything? ROFLMAO!!!

londoner:

I'm not even sure if these things are in capability of the president as an individual. Noonme is saying more could not have been done by thegovernment as a whole and him as president, but come on you are expecting rome to be build in a day and by one man.


Where did I say I expected Rome to be built in a Day? Are you going to tell me that inaction built rome? Could you please point to the connection between my post and yours? You are offering me the same old lame excuse for an answer I have read too many times now and I feel it is time you please explain the connection between this rebuttal of yours and my post. And I believe you are intelligent enough to come back with a response that does not include insults.

londoner:

Well, there is inaction, and there is laying framework for sustainable change later, what we are seeing now is one of the two. You say you are holding him accountable, fine, but maybe your expectations were unrealistic in the first place.

There is inaction and there is laying framework? How are the two related? Please be specific and site evidence for your responses please. I happen to be in the area of project management and have never, never heard anyone try to confuse inaction with laying framework. Worse is trying to but the blame on the expectations I have of a president. You are so unbeweavable!!
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by fxmaxony(m): 6:23pm On Jan 26, 2009
@deshola, name that you called much this man the president has done because i am yet to see
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by Fhemmmy: 6:27pm On Jan 26, 2009
Is there any problem with a President taking an holiday?
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by ayobase(m): 6:44pm On Jan 26, 2009
no probs with holiday ooo!!!!
but holidays!!!!
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by londoner: 6:53pm On Jan 26, 2009
kobojunkie, you are being hotheaded and not even understanding what I am asking you. I am asking you specifically to tell me WHO, (OUT OF THE CANDIDATES  RUNNING), YOU WANTED TO REPLACE YARADUA

Just provide the name simple, what is so difficult about that?

Yes Rome was built, but not in a day and certainly not in two years, thats the whole point of that saying isn't it? Rome was also built by many hands not just an individual.

The situation of Nigeria's situation today be it lack of food, infrustructure or industry, energy is not going to be solved or even changed significantly in half of one term, I will say again it is unrealistic of you to think so. You can expect Yaradua to do better, but dont expect a man to perform miracles.

I dont know where I insulted you either.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by Kobojunkie: 7:08pm On Jan 26, 2009
londoner:

kobojunkie, you are being hotheaded and not even understanding what I am asking you. I am asking you specifically to tell me WHO, (OUT OF THE CANDIDATES  RUNNING), YOU WANTED TO REPLACE YARADUA

Roflamo!! I am not being hotheaded here. I understand what you are asking. Problem is I do not understand Why you are asking me that. It is almost 2 years after the election so who are those candidates running for the seat at this time?  Are you going on about Obasanjo and IBB whom you seem to have more problems with but are right in the picture, behind yar adua today? Or are you asking me of those who ran against him in the last election? Why do we have to limit the options to just the present or the past? By the way, who is to say Pat Utomi would have not done a better job in 2 years than Yar adua has so far? LoL… I am still asking you to broaden your scope here to see that your question there does not make sense.

londoner:

Just provide the name simple, what is so difficult about that?
Everything cause the question does not make sense at all. There are a thousand and one Nigerians out there who can do a better job. What we need to do is find them and get them in. Not limit ourselves to those who ran for office two years ago or those who were once presidents and are still somewhat there in office with the present man.


londoner:

Yes Rome was built, but not in a day and certainly not in two years, thats the whole point of that saying isn't it? Rome was also built by many hands not just an individual.

Who brought up the question of Rome? Why did you bring up Rome? Is Nigeria Rome? Why does calling a president to take action imply we need to call on the Roman’s for answers as to how long it will take for some form of action? What in the world does your Roman analogy to do with anything? Read my Question again and get me the connection.

The President is not an individual. He is an institution, so maybe that is where your problem with understanding the role of a president begins. Do you realize that when we vote for a president, we are not just voting for an individual but for a team with a lead (President) promising that his team will get the job done? Take a look at the recent president in America. He did not come in alone. He came in with a whole institution of selected experts to tackle various issues and get action. Notice that the very next day; we started seeing motion from that office? Did you notice that? Now compare that with what you have seen in almost 2 years of Yar adua’s presidency. Are you still going to fill me up with the bull that he is an individual?

londoner:

The situation of Nigeria's situation today be it lack of food, infrustructure or industry, energy is not going to be solved

Again with the world SOLVED. What in the world are you trying to Solve? What has calling for some action to do with Solving anything? Read my post and answer my questions to you please. Stop offering me fluff when I am asking you for substance. It is getting irritating.

londoner:

or even changed significantly in half of one term, I will say again it is unrealistic of you to think so. You can expect Yaradua to do better, but dont expect a man to perform miracles.

I dont know where I insulted you either.


Has he so far done better? Please offer me substance not more fluff cause I am getting bored with you and your ridiculous retorts at this point. Or am I to accept this is just a waste of my time?
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by amaechijay: 7:23pm On Jan 26, 2009
I pray for him o jare

I believe he has good plans for Nigeria

He might not be perfect though

Everyone has his/her own flaws
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by londoner: 7:51pm On Jan 26, 2009
Kobojunkie,

Its a direct question, but you have simply evaded it, I am baffled as to why, just answer the question.

For example if you ask someone who didn't want Obama as president they will have no problem identifying that they would have rather had Hillary or McCain, (see, specific individuals who were running in the same election as potential candidates).

You have persistently failed  to answer, because (I suspect), like many who claim they want change in Nigeria are only problem focused, they can complain for England, but ask them the specific and practical solutions they had in mind, they cant answer because they have not really thought about it.

That is why I am asking you. Because it is precisely this whole failure of the average Nigerian to go beyond complaining and actually being effectual in the change they claim they want. Criticism (although deserved) makes Nigerians feel they are doing something while in reality they change nothing.

Take note of  the citizens of countries like Ghana and the US, they knew what they didn't want, who they didn't want and they galvanised behind that, then demonstrated it by empowering the alternative.

Its called actions speaking louder than words, this is what Nigerians still struggle with.
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by Kobojunkie: 8:01pm On Jan 26, 2009
londoner:

Kobojunkie,

Its a direct question, but you have simply evaded it, I am baffled as to why, just answer the question.

Dude. . . saying it is direct does not make it direct. Again, Who are the candidates you refer to? Any hope that you will answer or is this a waste of my time?

londoner:

For example if you ask someone who didn't want Obama as president they will have no problem identifying that they would have rather had Hillary or McCain, (see, specific individuals who were running in the same election as potential candidates).

So, Two years after the election of the president, you are asking me which candidate of those who ran two years ago I would have preferred. Why? What has that to do with where we are today? What good will those do us today or tomorrow? Why in the world would you even want to go down that road? WHY?



londoner:

You have persistently failed to answer, because (I suspect), like many who claim they want change in Nigeria are only problem focused, they can complain for England, but ask them the specific and practical solutions they had in mind, they cant answer because they have not really thought about it.

At least show you are better than us by answering questions asked you. I have asked you at least 15 questions so far and you are yet to give a cohesive response.

londoner:

That is why I am asking you. Because it is precisely this whole failure of the average Nigerian to go beyond complaining and actually being effectual in the change they claim they want. Criticism (although deserved) makes Nigerians feel they are doing something while in reality they change nothing.

Hhmmm . . .

londoner:

Take note of the citizens of countries like Ghana and the US, they knew what they didn't want, who they didn't want and they galvanised behind that, then demonstrated it by empowering the alternative.

Its called actions speaking louder than words, this is what Nigerians still struggle with.


You know what? I am going to call this a day here. I can not figure out where you stand anymore cause one minute you are saying one thing and the next you are on another. Makes me wonder if this is not just an attempt to pull me into wasting more of my day in here. I will choose to apologize for responding to your initial post, thinking this would get somewhere good. Good day and have a good life!
Re: Breaking News: Yar'adua To Proceed On Two-week Leave by bindex(m): 8:07pm On Jan 26, 2009
Sick country, sick people and a sick leader.

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