Quote from: londoner on Yesterday at 05:08:04 PM
It is heartless for people not to understand that a person who has recently undergone a kidney transplant may need to take a few weeks off, yes its heartless.

@ londoner

You seem to know what some of us do not know.
when did the President undergo kidney transplant and where?
AS far as I know, the President has never admitted this. I watched his interview last year and what he complained of was the Malaria drugs he took. he struggled to say that he had kidney issues in the past and did not expatiate. if you are going to take up the job of presiding over 150 million people, then you need to open up on things to expect sympathy especially when people die daily from your inactions.
In the age when more and more countries are embracing openness, yar adua's govt. is becoming more reclusive.
By the way, till today, the government has not said a word about his trip to Mecca not even in passing. how are we supposed to have sympathy on him, what for? travelling at the expense of tax payers?

Quote from: londoner on Yesterday at 05:08:04 PM
He is just one man after all, and Nigeria is not a place you can change overnight, two years is literally overnight when you talk about type of changes which the average Nigerian wants to feel.

If you need to see what a leader can do in 2 years, then I'm offering to drive you round Lagos state. By the way, Yar Adua's govt. has not not tarred or constructed 1m of new road in 2 years and you think it's becos he's thinking his decisions through. Well I hope we have enough people alive to use his infrastructure when he's through with thinking. As we speak, people are dying from accidents and generator fumes.
He has succeded in cancelling the few gains of the Obasanjo govt. and now that there is nothing else to reverse, he steps back to relax when Presidents all around the world are doing everything to resolve the economic crises!

Quote from: londoner on Yesterday at 05:08:04 PM
I am not joking at all. At the very worst, this president was the best of the bad bunch, at best he is a man who is slowly trying to make a change in the midst of vultures.

A lot of people have said this man is a good man, while I may not have enough evidence to the contrary, I have a problem with a "good man" with bad fruits and making a conscious decision to surround himself with good for nothing people (Ibori, Udenwa, Aondakaa, Okiro, Anenih) and this calls into question his goodness. At the end of his tenure, I'm of the opinion we may come to realize that this is a calculating and evil administration.

Jacobs123, I'm sure you are not trying to compare what a governor of a state can do (the smallest state in Nigeria mind), with what a president of the whole nation can do in two years? Now come on. Even if he could have done a better job, its not the same at all. In fact, you may ask yourself whether the work of the lagos state governor and former governor Duke, should rather raise questions about governors of the other states, rather than Yar adua directly.

As far as I know it was widely reported, that he underwent serious surgery which was renal related and was a transplant. No bones was made anywhere about the fact that surgery was a serious one. I think most people here know that. If it was not a transplant as previously reported, then I can accept that, but it was obviously a serious one.

As far as roads, I was in Abuja in November 2008 as well as November 2007, both times there was extensive road works/contruction being carried out.

Kobojunkie, yet again you fail to just answer a question put to you. I am asking YOU to tell ME the person you had in mind for Yar adua to be replaced by, if you dont know then just say that.

we all know and this has been authenticated that our president is not well and hasnet been for a while. this is not news to anyone on this forum. if he takes time off for his health then it is reasonable, afterall without health we are unable to function properly as humans. if indeed it is a proper holiday, then he is allowed to do so and take his holiday, since recent time off was due to medical emergency, not leisure. the honest truth is a president can take time off and he doesnt have to give a reason, he has full executive powers and he is deemed to use it as fit. we can discuss all we want but presidents get what they want when they want it. i mean no american president has ever recieved emails but Obama said he wasnt relinquishing his blackberry. the security cronies duly agreed, only to advise him it has to be super protected. he still got his wish.

i pity u all ,i tink the man stay em own ona sey mak em com rule ona, that he has been a good governor. the man is not only going to waste 4 years but i heard from the blues that wil com up for a second term, precious 4 years wasted 4 years,sorry i mean 8 precious years not 4

Yaradua this yaradua that wetin sef,


Should in case he resigns do we have any qualified replacement for him? i mean' Mere looking at Goody you can easily tell he will collapse on his 3rd day of running Nigeria.


Anyway i'm available

skyone:


Yaradua this yaradua that wetin sef,

Should in case he resigns do we have any qualified replacement for him? i mean' Mere looking at Goody you can easily tell he will collapse on his 3rd day of running Nigeria.

Anyway i'm available

If he resigns, we will definitely find a replacement. We have been able to find replacements for all the past leaders that have had their tenures cut short for one reason or the other, so why don’t you see us finding a replacement this time feasible?

Looking at his VP, he may surprise you. Not saying he will definitely do better as it is up to him to decide his own legacy. We as the people are here to judge and decide if he is better or if we ought to keep looking.

Is he not entitled to 30 working days annual leave?

@londoner what "frame works" has Yar Adua been laying down? What "foundations" has Mr President been laying? So the development of a whole country should be suspended because of the health of one man who knew before he agreed to run for presidency that he was ill? The lack of development that contiues to KILL people should be tolerated so that we can feel human? Why can't he step down and why all this secrecy about his health? Could it possibly be that Mr President is trying to avoid the constituional obligation that the legislature has whereby the president can be upseated if he is deemed too unhealthy to lead or leaves the country beyond a specific amount of time? He was ill way before her agreed to be president and he knew it, instead of that to make you ask "what on earth was he thinking" it is others who point out the truth that should be crucified?

Are you going to also use Abuja as a benchmark for development around the country even though the running of Abuja is actually handled by a minister of the FCT? The irony of people bringing up Abuja when as far as i can tell no federal roads have been addressed, is that the development in Abuja has not been as a result of Yar Adua or his team but as a result of El Rufai. In fact there was a news article that i read last weak whereby someone was complaining about the slow degradation of the roads and infrastructure in Abuja since Yar Adua got in. Its amazing how people see others asking a man to step down if he can;t perform his duties as being wicked while they themselves are unable to see that the innactions of Mr President in this day and age is equivalent to retrogression and such is KILLING people. People still die from polio in Nigeria. People please, just stop for a second and take that in. PEOPLE STILL DIE FROM POLIO IN NIGERIA. The infrastructure on the federal side of things is in serious decay, no plan has been announced on how things are going tobe fixed and tackled and someone is saying it is as a result of planning?

otokx:

Is he not entitled to 30 working days annual leave?

He is definitely entitled to take a leave if it is in his contract. I mean he is human after all. What I don’t get is someone selling me the tale that this man has done enough to DESERVE this break; try to sell us on the idea that Yar adua has been SECRETLY Working on some foundation laying masterplan that even his own cabinet members know nothing of. That is a whole other tale that needs to be looked at.

He went on his leave, so what?

welldone kobojunkie. i second dat

he better remain there and never come back coz we dont need him.
It makes no different if he is on leave or not.

he better remain there and never come back coz we dont need him.
It makes no different if he is on leave or not.

Correct yarn

@ sky blue and kobojunkie, its a bit dishonest to suggest that I was saying people were being heartless in asking him to leave his post.

It is quite obvious that I said it was heartless for people to expect a man who has recently undergone surgery/medical procedure not to go and recieve medical attention, if that is the case.

There is not need to twist my words.

I never used Abuja as the benchmark for the whole country either, but it is an example. The development of the whole country is not solely down to one man, what pressure are Nigerians putting on their state and local governments?

The thing with Nigerians is that they will complain and complain, but when it actually comes time for them to change their situation, they are all empty all of a sudden.

Even if the whole country did not want Yar Adua, what did they do?

The answer is nothing, as usual. When it comes to talk they are all there, action is another story altogether.

I hate to say dis. I think dis President should just "Please" die!
Die Yar Ardua! Die Motha Chinko! Die-Die-Die-Die-Die-Die-Die-------DIIIIIIEEEEEEEE!!

@londoner

I think you really need to think outside the box. The summary of the points that Kobojunkie and Sky Blue were making I guess is:

Is Yaradua entitled to a leave? = YES, (if the constitution says so)

Does Yaradua DESERVE to go on leave now?= NO (cause he has done little or no work to justify his leave)

make una leave the man jooooooo.abeg make e go break may be a masterplan will emerge after the two weeks break. atleast we dont have a say what they use tax payers money on.raise hell nobody listens to you

Kobojunkie:

If he resigns, we will definitely find a replacement. We have been able to find replacements for all the past leaders that have had their tenures cut short for one reason or the other, so why don’t you see us finding a replacement this time feasible?

Looking at his VP, he may surprise you. Not saying he will definitely do better as it is up to him to decide his own legacy. We as the people are here to judge and decide if he is better or if we ought to keep looking.

who were these presidential successors, their past histories, and their legacies. Pls let's pray for him at the moment, this man is the only credible man with open heart and who can govern the country successfully as for now.

skyone:

who were these presidential successors, their past histories, and their legacies.

Which presidential successors are you referring to? You will have to fill me in on those you have in mind cause most likely I don't know who they are.

skyone:

Pls let's pray for him at the moment, this man is the only credible man with open heart and who can govern the country successfully as for now.

Do you have any proof for the claim made above? Please do not offer me more rhetoric. I need proof that this man is a credible open-hearted man as you claim.

skyone:

who were these presidential successors, their past histories, and their legacies. Pls let's pray for him at the moment, this man is the only credible man with open heart and who can govern the country successfully as for now.

yeah sure open heart, how many bypasses, Quintuple? bypass power/energy/electricity, bypass education, bypass healthcare, bypass infrastructure, bypass economy. what other thing can his HUGE Credibility with an open heart, bypass?

Pls this US green card is it different from the American lottery.

must_a_far:

yeah sure open heart, how many bypasses, Quintuple? bypass power/energy/electricity, bypass education, bypass healthcare, bypass infrastructure, bypass economy. what other thing can his HUGE Credibility with an open heart, bypass?

And he created these problems from the begining, isn't it think

He can only try as much as he can to reduce the mess not clean it up over night

skyone:

And he created these problems from the begining, isn't it think

He can only try as much as he can to reduce the mess not clean it up over night

Who has so far asked him to clean up the mess overnight? Who? You? Cause I am confused as to why you continue to hammer on that when no one here has demanded that he do that? I am still waiting for your answers to the questions I asked you and hope to get some sort of intelligent response from you rather than these same old excuses which have been used for this same man's ineptitude, even as he worked as governor of Katsina state for 8 year prior to his presidency.

"Let's face it: Nigeria is not working. Nigerians need a new deal. The country needs to be fixed. The President can't go on leave when the country is facing an emergency. There is no electricity supply in the country, the stock market has crashed, the country's foreign reserves is going down, the Naira is losing value, about 23 per cent in a month, the national economy has failed, the people have no jobs, no food, no hope, the 2009 Budget is even not in place yet. You go on leave after you have done some work. What has President Yar'Adua done in close to two years for him to merit going on leave?

"He has married off two daughters to state governors. Is it easy? Let's be fair to this man."

the quote above couldnt have summerized it any better.