@Jensinmi
Your idea sound really good. We need to start coordinating something for 2011. You have my support.
But make it no be all mouth no action i beg.

We need to outline our strategy on recruitment, we surely can recruit lots of people here on Nairaland and also the likes of facebook etc

If we want something done we shouldn't just sit down there and complain, we need to stand up and do something, but if we decide to sit down and complain without doing anything then i don't think Nairaland makes any sense to any of us.

I am no politician or campaigner, i just want a better Nigeria. Simple.

pixiraver:

We need to outline our strategy on recruitment, we surely can recruit lots of people here on Nairaland and also the likes of facebook etc

If we want something done we shouldn't just sit down there and complain, we need to stand up and do something, but if we decide to sit down and complain without doing anything then i don't think Nairaland makes any sense to any of us.

I am no politician or campaigner, i just want a better Nigeria. Simple.

Thank you so much for this statement, "I am not a politician or campaigner but wants a better Nigeria" this is the same thing I want too and thats all.

But its unfortunate only few people wants or are ready for this, I just will like people to reply this thread constantly so as to know if they want or not and were we can start from and give the list of those that want then maybe we can give ourselves a starting job of bringing in members so we can combine our innitiatives or ideas together.

I think Seun should also assist and put this topic on the homepage of nairaland,

pixiraver:

I think Seun should also assist and put this topic on the homepage of nairaland,

Do you think we can do all the discussion here ?

I was thinking we should only get as much people we can then to make a place for discussion and how to get more people involve, this is not going to be a joke so I think we should handle it with seriousness and proper manner. Here are full of some confusing people that might just dis-stabilize the whole program.

Well its just my opinion, so lets all contribute ideas and see how to go about it.

Yeah Charles i think we should, this is serious and we shouldn't let it die. What do you think we should do for a start?

First I believe we should try to have enough members.

We should try to make people understand what we intend to do and we would like supports and contributions from individual.

If we have some majority numbers of members, then we can proceed with our objective.

Lets figure-out how to get more members, minimum 10 or 15 atleast. Then we will assign ourselves to something cus some people maybe will handle getting more people while at the same time some will try to figureout a place were to make our discussions.

The motive is a good one, but a political party? Hell NO.  I will rather suggest we begin something like a MOVEMENT or a PRESSURE group

I suggest we call it YOUTH MOVEMENT FOR CHANGE (YMC)

Qualification for joining: Nigerian
Qualification for explusion: Tribalistic and/or corruption

We need a point of contact starting with a website, i will gladly pay for the domain and host the website from my own pocket. I don't really care if it is a political party or youth movement all i want is change in Nigeria. So people what is it going to be? Ideas please.

NL Political party in infeasible. A political party is expected to be constituted by members, at least founding, that share similar views and aspirations. In NL, the views are not only diverse, but also extremely contrasting.

Offtopic: This is my 1000th post

youngies:

The motive is a good one, but a political party? Hell NO.  I will rather suggest we begin something like a MOVEMENT or a PRESSURE group

I suggest we call it YOUTH MOVEMENT FOR CHANGE (YMC)

Qualification for joining: Nigerian
Qualification for explusion: Tribalistic and/or corruption

This is a brilliant suggestion, yes we know it cannot be a  political part but we just havent gotten a name for it yet.

Good name but we might need some elder support, so maybe we dont know need the "YOUTH" so we should find another name for it.

The qualification is OK, but as for me personally I dont mind if we have a white guy as a member. I just want a better place to live and want to start this in Nigeria thats all.

The Qualification for explusion or goal is perfect (Which is also our main goal): Tribalism / Discrimination / Corruption

Good Idea guys. However, I would not want us to start with a political party. Lets start as someone said, as a movement. Politics is very complicated, trust me.

First step I believe is to divide NairaLanders into 4 regions. Nigeria, USA, UK and Canada (these is my suggestion and open to debate. I must also apologise for people outside these regions. I suggest they join the region closest to them).

Now, in each of these regions, there should be coordinators for a conference to be held in say, one or two months at a well defined venue. For instance Im in UK, and I think London will be a good venue (though Im a bit far from London). Anyways, all conferences must have the same agenda and hold within 1 week discussing various issues in Naija and action plans. I strongly believe that its not until we become politicians that we can make changes. Martin Luther King, Mahatma Ghandi, etc were not politicians yet, they made great changes that some politicians will never make in their lifetimes.

Lets start from that first step and like Johnny Walker, we will to that Journey of a thousand miles.

What do you guys think?

PS: I volunteer to be one of the coordinators in the UK

pixiraver:

We need a point of contact starting with a website, i will gladly pay for the domain and host the website from my own pocket. I don't really care if it is a political party or youth movement all i want is change in Nigeria. So people what is it going to be? Ideas please.

I am happy people are turning out with joy and pure willingness.

Yes we all just want a better Nigeria, but at the same time we have to seriously plan and discuse our goal or mission and if we dont do it properly then it might break up in the middle.

Yes I agree we need a point of contact like a website, thank you for that willingness of getting us a site (wow this is wonderful). At the moment, all we need is to have more people like you and I to agree on our idea and then we can makeup something on where to make our discussion (Like a site or so).

We just need more members, we will succed my Nigerian.

proudly9ja:

Good Idea guys. However, I would not want us to start with a political party. Lets start as someone said, as a movement. Politics is very complicated, trust me.

First step I believe is to divide NairaLanders into 4 regions. Nigeria, USA, UK and Canada (these is my suggestion and open to debate. I must also apologise for people outside these regions. I suggest they join the region closest to them).

Now, in each of these regions, there should be coordinators for a conference to be held in say, one or two months at a well defined venue. For instance Im in UK, and I think London will be a good venue (though Im a bit far from London). Anyways, all conferences must have the same agenda and hold within 1 week discussing various issues in Naija and action plans. I strongly believe that its not until we become politicians that we can make changes. Martin Luther King, Mahatma Ghandi, etc were not politicians yet, they made great changes that some politicians will never make in their lifetimes.

Lets start from that first step and like Johnny Walker, we will to that Journey of a thousand miles.

What do you guys think?

PS: I volunteer to be one of the coordinators in the UK

This is a very good idea, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS NOT A POLITICAL PART !!!

Secondly, It was a good idea you said which I have also said before that we will make it regional cus of those abroad and in Nigeria. We will first make all our meetings or discussion online until we are strong enough and have majority members before making any grouping members (UK - Nigeria and so on)

As we have started seeing majority numbers, well I wish someone could start listing the numbers of members we are starting to have. We want a serious and dedicated members that will be always available to contact not someone that comes online today and comes online again another 1 week.

We can make it if we really want this.

Because this is something Im very passionate about and because I have seen a lot of good ideas for Naija fizzle out with time and because people just talk and do nothing, I am willing to start taking down names of people who are interested.

If this is agreed, you can send your name and location (just country is alright) to my PM. But please wait, will the house agrees that I can take down names.

Jarus:

NL Political party in infeasible. A political party is expected to be constituted by members, at least founding, that share similar views and aspirations. In NL, the views are not only diverse, but also extremely contrasting.

Offtopic: This is my 1000th post

Right, and what do you think brought about this idea



On-topic: Gbajensinmi, count me in jare

The idea of holding conferences, workshops and seminars won't do it for me. I have grown tired of cheap talks but no action. Anybody that is wilingl to be a member MUST be a foot soldier.

I will soon come up with a Strategic Action Plan (SAP) which will be easy but dogged. It will be tasking and requires a lot sacrifices from all foot soldiers.  

I volunteer to be one of the coordinators of the Abuja sub-chapter of Nigeria

proudly9ja:

Because this is something Im very passionate about and because I have seen a lot of good ideas for Naija fizzle out with time and because people just talk and do nothing, I am willing to start taking down names of people who are interested.

If this is agreed, you can send your name and location (just country is alright) to my PM. But please wait, will the house agrees that I can take down names.

If this is actually going to happen then i am quite interested.

@youngies, while I completely understand where you are coming from and see your point on how there has been a lot of talk and no action and hence the need for action, i would have to say that i prefer we use more of our brain when it comes to these actions so that they don't become meaningless, worthless, ineffective and a waste of time. This is doable but i think a meet or at least a proper discussion would be in order in which carefully outlined plans and different areas for people to sign up on which utilises our diversity and different experiences would be in order. I guess as long as this is for real and this is actually going to happen then i am signing up.

So,

4 things to start with, should I start accepting names of people interested in the group?

Secondly, What name should we give the group? someone already suggested Youth Movement for Change, I suggest, The Great Naija Movement.

Thirdly, anyone in the house who can volunteer to do us a website?

Fourthly, any suggestions for a slogan for the group and Naija as a whole? (South Africans have Proudly South Africa, Scottish have Live it. Visit Scotland, Malaysia - Malaysia. Truly Asia, India - Incredible India). I think it will be nice to have one strictly Out of Naija, Straight from Naija, what do you guys think?

Can we just leave all of that out (the "group naming ceremony" and slogans) for now please. I seriously hope this does not turn into a T Shirt convention were we meet each week and "discuss" the ills of Nigeria over the proverbial Kola Nut. Let us organise a meet first or some discussion so we see how serious this is and whose in and then plan from there.

@Sky Blue
I have no doubt in mind that this is doable, if we all pull resources together. A lot of energy, time and finance will be needed no doubt, but I don't want to look at these excuses first. I want us to hit the ground right away, no dramatisation.

If no one can get us a registration site asap, may I suggest that we start signing up here. No procrastination, 2011 is already here!

Sky Blue:

If this is actually going to happen then i am quite interested.

@youngies, why i completely understand where you are coming from and see your point on how there has been a lot of talk and no action and hence the need for action, i would have to say that i prefer we use more of our brain when it comes to these actions so that they don't become meaningless, worthless, ineffective and a waste of time. This is doable but i think a meet or at least a proper discussion would be in order in which carefully outlined plans and different areas for people to sign up on which utilises our diversity and different experiences would be in order. I guess as long as this is for real and this is actually going to happen then i am signing up.

I understand youngies point of view and as much as I agree that there has been loads of talk and no action, I still believe that as intellectuals, we must never discard the power of coming together and bombardhing issues and that is why Im particularly interested in this movement. Like I said, it is not until we all become governors, senators, presidents that we can make a change, some of us have to do some real hard work in the background. I mention MLK in my earlier post, what a lot of people dont know is that he had loads of Lawyers, Engineers, Teachers, HRs, etc in his team who were going to court suing govt and establishment, building small wells in rural areas, and everyone contributing his/her quota, thats what a TEAM does.

Yes we need foot soldiers like youngies who can go to the grassroot, challenge those who need to be challenged, fight injusticies, etc and we also need people who will talk and think and then act.

youngies:

@Sky Blue
I have no doubt in mind that this is doable, if we all pull resources together. A lot of energy, time and finance will be needed no doubt, but I don't want to look at these excuses first. I want us to hit the ground right away, no dramatisation.

If no one can get us a registration site asap, may I suggest that we start signing up here. No procrastination, 2011 is already here!

I second that motion, as long as we are agreed that this is currently a movement and not a political party. There are so many areas that could be effected, covered and influenced hence i would advice people who are tired of looking on helplessly at the Nigerian situation to join and if not at least do what you can in your different areas and capacity to help the country, does not have to include signing up if you don't want to.

Also, i feel the need to address this whole issue of "foot soldiers". No doubt there are people who would be required to go to the grass roots if necessary, as long as none of us are exempting ourselves if its in our capacity to do any taks including what some might wrongly see as menial. No elitism please, we are working together towards similar goals

Sky Blue:

Can we just leave all of that out (the "group naming ceremony" and slogans) for now please. I seriously hope this does not turn into a T Shirt convention were we meet each week and "discuss" the ills of Nigeria over the proverbial Kola Nut. Let us organise a meet first or some discussion so we see how serious this is and whose in and then plan from there.

I strongly pray it doesnt turn out that way.

I suggested a meet earlier but someone countered (and I concur) that it wil be better to sort out some issues online first on Nairaland before organising a meet. Thats why I have raised up issues I think (open to suggestions ofcourse) we should thrash out. Ild like to hear yours too please. Slowly but surely, we will get there

proudly9ja:

I strongly pray it doesnt turn out that way.

I suggested a meet earlier but someone countered (and I concur) that it wil be better to sort out some issues online first on Nairaland before organising a meet. Thats why I have raised up issues I think (open to suggestions ofcourse) we should thrash out. Ild like to hear yours too please. Slowly but surely, we will get there

When i mentioned a meet, I didn't necessarily mean a physical meeting or conference yet, but a more established arena to discuss, it could be on here, could be using web chat, anything that is mainly for the issue at hand.

Alrite, the most critical things we need now are:

[list]
[li]Name of member[/li]
[li]Location[/li]
[li]Occupation[/li]
[/list]

Now this will immediately help us to ascertain our spread and areas of profession competences. Should I say that we gonna need a whole load of good young radical lawyers on pro bono.

ok, so who's taking down names?

youngies:

Alrite, the most critical things we need now are:

[list]
[li]Name of member[/li]
[li]Location[/li]
[li]Occupation[/li]
[/list]

Now this will immediately help us to ascertain our spread and areas of profession competences. Should I say that we gonna need a whole load of good young radical lawyers on pro bono.

Don't mind  such at all, but as i said as long as no one no matter how "high up" they are placed is exempting themselves from possibly doing any "foot soldier" work (whatever that means). Whatever information we share that is private, should be exclusive please. Hence the need for a more dedicated arena.

Ok guys gimme some coupla minutes to see what I can to do to get us a page for registration somewhere discrete.

I Think we are jumping the Gun too fast, we need co-ordination first, this I believe is the first thing to do, maybe a set of four co-ordinators, then we can assign duties of what we want to do, and how we go about doing it, So Lets start about assigning co-ordinators for this thread and purpose,

It maybe difficult to assign 'duties' when we do not know who we are and what our different skills are too

First I must say I am happy people are willing and dedicated.

Secondly my brothers, make we take am easy the way some people are suggesting a fast move. If we act fast or too fast then I must say it will surely not last.

We should act and make this as accurate as possible, we dont have to act on dates or pursue anything. lets concentrate on our own main focus and objective.

Yes we need a site, pls lets take it slowly and step by step, we dont need anyone to handle anything for now. we only need to know who want to be involve and after this we will then fix somewhere we can talk about everything.