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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by timilehing(m): 6:17pm On May 06, 2015
Scholar8200:
That's true for animals who're guided by instincts alone. Man is different.
We're not different. Same blood runs in both. Google "Animal Behavior", you'll understand better. (Animal Behavior starts with humans)
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by gaby53: 6:19pm On May 06, 2015
:POk, muslims, u seem tongue tight, why? After una go say boko haram r not muslims. Is it in the name of Jesus they kill? Answer pls.

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by ZUBY77(m): 6:21pm On May 06, 2015
Threads like this brings out the hypocrisy, confusion and mental illness of an average black man.

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by alreadyknowsam: 6:24pm On May 06, 2015
Anyone who has been raped before could give a useful & life saving solution. And 4 those who has had unprotected sex willingly and abort should pls keep silence.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by omokab: 6:24pm On May 06, 2015
According to a yoruba adage which says that " obe ge o lowo oju sile. Se omo pe obe ti se ohun to fese"that a knife cut your hand and you throw the knife away,don't you know that the knife has already done what it will do.The woman of unwanted child should know something.They should believe that the same child can become the president,minster,governor etc of this country if there is a godd parental care by showing love and send him to school.He can be a child that the mother will be seen and happy in the future.He can be a pastor or imam or scholar.This leads me to a story of a thief who raped a woman and the woman conceived and born a child.The child later become the chief judge of the state.This man still continue all his atrocity to this time the child has became the chief judge.One day after the man has been caught and arrested by police,he was taken to court and sentence to death by anging.The day of signing his death warrant,the woman he raped came to see her son but unfortunately he met this man standing infront her son.The man was surprise and took permission to talk to the woman.He narrated the story to her and the woman started crying.The son asked his mother what happed and the woman told the child that this is your father who always told you that he letf me for a very long time.I have been lied to you since but today you can see your father.The child was disturbed and confused but later told the father that nothing he can do to it again beacuse the child is known as a very strict and principle person.So he ordered for the killing of the man.That is how he reap what he sowed.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Nobody: 6:31pm On May 06, 2015
If you are not a woman, you shouldn't come here and start barking about how abortion is wrong and what not.

You don't know the psychological effects of being raped, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Don't spew rubbish about how abortion is murder and whatever nonsense you think you know.

If she chooses to keep the child, let she.
If she says she wants to abort, no one has the right to judge her either.

Personally, I'd suggest having it and giving it up for adoption.
Because no woman can get over that.

It's just too much.

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Bollinger(m): 6:34pm On May 06, 2015
jmoore:
The baby is innocent. If you abort it then you are on the same level with boko haram.

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Seunboss(m): 6:42pm On May 06, 2015
YESSS!!!! Abortion is verrrrrrry right in dis case. These young girls are about to have a very un-comfortable rest of their lives becos of babies they did not ask for, becos of security problems not handled, becos of bad governance. Wuld any of u like to live that life or want terrorists to father ur babies. Do u tink d children deserve to be brought into dis world to suffer and be stigmatized. Knowing how d north and country is i wuldn't like to be born in such a case. Plus i recently made a decision to be d sole controller of my life nd not av it truncated by fate or any other person's decision. I honestly tink abortions shuld be legal in cases of rape, so d ladies do not live miserably and lose out on life. Also in situations were scans show d babies wuld come out heavily disabled. If u don't av solutions to d problem of these ladies nd d babies, do not ask dem to keep d zygotes.

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by ggiz: 6:46pm On May 06, 2015
yinkard4me:

some of them are physically and financially ok to
raise a child. i want answers on its religious
implications. thats why i took it here
Then u take d questn to ur pastor or Imam as d case may be. This is not d right place.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Philipsdael(m): 6:53pm On May 06, 2015
Our Law book is mightily influenced by our religion.
Therefore, the Law and the religion frown at abortion.
But as a freethinker that i boldly say i am.
Pls, abort those ones that is still at the early stage and leave the matured pregnancies ....if the mothers don't want to behold such child then the government or NGO should adopt them.
Loba'tan
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by VickyRotex(f): 6:54pm On May 06, 2015
booqee:


kai i'm jealous oo.. who is vickyrotex? angry so we don dey two for ur hand?? angry angry angry


I'm here ooo cheesy grin kiss
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Nobody: 7:06pm On May 06, 2015
Where were their Gods when they were repeatedly raped with starvation n no bath too? Why should they consider the Gods now?
O wait! Their Gods were busy watching d porn.
They should be given d option to abort it asap.
Anyone who chooses 2 keep it, should keep it.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by kevoh(m): 7:06pm On May 06, 2015
Abortion might seem wrong to you especially for silly and dumb reasons as religion till you find yourself on the wrong side where you have to make that decision to abort if you have been raped especially by useless dirty monsters as the bokoharam boys.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by JayJustus(m): 7:07pm On May 06, 2015
hedonistic:

Sure, but only if you are in Abuja, then I can claim it.
come sambisa side...free WiFi also
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by MKO4ever(m): 7:08pm On May 06, 2015
They should leave the babies ooo, "Inu ikoko dudu ni eko funfun ti jade" "It is from inside black pot that white pap comes out"

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Moana(f): 7:09pm On May 06, 2015
yinkard4me:

source of income and how to feed them is nuh d problem here bruh.
eeeeh? So what will they use for diapers? Plantain leaves?
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by VickyRotex(f): 7:15pm On May 06, 2015

This is a case of "oro yi so si mi lenu, o bu yo si"

Truth is, religion aside, abortion to me is immoral. I for once can't stand preventing an innocent kid from coming to this world to fulfil his or her purpose

But in this case, there are slim chances of those girls wanting to keep the babies, especially with the circumstances surrounding the conception.

Believe me, lots of these girls can't handle it. Those girls are so strong to have survived the ordeal, but not all of them can survive the next phase, I dont think it will be fair to them, by forcing them to keep the babies against their own will.

I had this same dicussion with someone yesterday, and she said If I dont support abortion, what if some of the girls dies during child birth, and I smiled, and asked her, what if some of the girls die during abortion too? She was tryna put her words together.

The truth is, either abortion or birthing the child, they are both risky.

Someone said, its better they die during abortion, than keep the babies. And I was shocked . Really


One thing is, aborting those kids will not erase the trauma of those girls. Some will feel worse after the abortion. You know that.

I'll share a short story:

I took permission from a friend before deciding to share this.

She is a very close friend, the day she told me the situation that surrounded her birth, I was "wooowed" Her mum married her dad while she was young (19), at age 20, they got attacked by robbers and the dad was killed, the mum raped. The mum decided to keep the pregnancy, Now, this girl is a result of that rape. Yea, she is. Now a motivational speaker, Now, someone lots of people wanna listen to for advice.

She'll publish the book soon, that talks about her ordeal. How she strived to survive, despite the discouragement from people.


Now, not all kids conceived from rape turns out to be bad afterall, lots of them choose to proove their fathers wrong, and in turn be a blessing to the society.

Now, someone might be saying, that's 1:20 in cases like this, but I'd just say let's look on the brighter side, let's be optimistic. Keeping those kids, wouldnt be bad afterall.


In all, I'd just say, this girls should be given a free will to decide what they want and shouldnt be compelled or forced to.

If there's any of them willing to keep the pregnancies, (ofcourse, I know there'd be lots of them willing to) and wants to give the babies out for adoption or to NGO's, I already said it, I'm very much willing to adopt at most 5.

I'm sure there are various NGO's willing to help this ladies aswel. Trust me, some of these girls will go back to their kids in the future.

All said, abortion aint the best way out here, there are other ways out.

Medical practitioners should help out, and let each girl know her chances of surviving abortion or giving birth.


But in all I wouldnt blame/judge any of these girls if they abort the kids.


Yinkard, I responded late smiley

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by ireneidiva(f): 7:17pm On May 06, 2015
yinkard4me:
214 of the girls rescued from Boko Haram
have been confirmed pregnant. (not that I'm
surprised anyway). My question is this,
considering the psychological consequence of this,
both long and short term, can abortion be justified
in this instance??
Christians and Muslims, your view
Where is your source?
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Slimmos(m): 7:25pm On May 06, 2015
They should abort d bastards and kill them up..those children are potential terrorist in da future
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by cold(m): 7:26pm On May 06, 2015
If they choose to keep the baby,that's fine. If they choose to abort,they're totally justified. If god was willing to see them go through such trauma of several raggedy men taking turns and debasing the women. Reducing them to animals for their sexual pleasure,why should he have a problem with the woman terminating the product of such evil act? I don't get this logic at all honestly.

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Abbey2sam(m): 7:50pm On May 06, 2015
Scholar8200:
It's best to keep the pregnancy for the following reasons:
1. The unborn child is completely innocent and , with good training, will not take after its father;
2. Abortion is tantamount to murder. The world will cry out if a criminal's 7 months old baby is taken to be executed with him in the firing squad;calling for the murder of the unborn babies because of their fathers' sin should also be denounced .
3. The abortion could result in the death of the mother; what then?
4. The abortion could lead to serious health complications/infertility for the mother; what then?
5. The child,if allowed to live, may become the consolation for its mother, rising above a dark background, refusing to be limited/defined by same; why not?


nice one bro

lets stop dwelling on the negative part and look at the brighter side

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by daddynasa: 7:59pm On May 06, 2015
Numbers 14:18 ‘The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, forgiving iniquity and transgression, but he will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, to the third and the fourth generation.’
Deuteronomy 24:16 “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Ezekiel 18:19-20 “Yet you say, ‘Why should not the son suffer for the iniquity of the father?’ When the son has done what is just and right, and has been careful to observe all my statutes, he shall surely live. The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
John 9:1-3 As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.
Jeremiah 31:29-34 In those days they shall no longer say: “‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge.’ But everyone shall die for his own sin. Each man who eats sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge. “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. ...
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by daddynasa: 8:02pm On May 06, 2015
pinkbee:
Where were their Gods when they were repeatedly raped with starvation n no bath too? Why should they consider the Gods now?
O wait! Their Gods were busy watching d porn.
They should be given d option to abort it asap.
Anyone who chooses 2 keep it, should keep it.
SMH
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Missyetty(f): 8:12pm On May 06, 2015
If you would ask me, this is really a complicated situation knowing fully well that abortion is not good and @ the same time, we know if these girls decide to leave this pregnancy, it is gonna cost them a lot of things, these girls are already depressed and the trauma is affecting them but i think they should not be forced to chose anything, they should follow their hearts...I really feel sorry for them, such a world!
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by croSStodds(m): 8:21pm On May 06, 2015
pinkbee:
Where were their Gods when they were repeatedly raped with starvation n no bath too? Why should they consider the Gods now?
O wait! Their Gods were busy watching d porn.
They should be given d option to abort it asap.
Anyone who chooses 2 keep it, should keep it.
Lol!!I'm giggling hysterically at ur whimsical comment.anyway,u're right on point.u said d truth$some of these nairalanders who keep indicting farrago of antiquated adages are off-track.like seriously,they're completely oblivious of what a psychological trauma connotes..

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Gynacologist(m): 8:31pm On May 06, 2015
calmdude:
yes
it is the best thing that can be done, if not how do u explain this to the children in future years.
then again some of this girls may have developed feelings for those BH boys . since some girls have fish brain
no b lie?
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Mimee803: 8:32pm On May 06, 2015
While I see reason with what u have said my? Is who in Nigeria is goin to adopt dos children? We leave in a society where pple even dos who hv bn certified barren wld rather wait 25 yrs praying 2 God dan adopt a baby. Go 2 motherless babies homes dey r filled up how much more d seed of Boko Haram again I ask who in Nigeria wld adopt dat child. In my opinion des tins r deeper dan us discussing it on blogs cos we can't even begin 2 comprehend what des young girls hv bn thru even in our wildest emotion. It's a death sentence while some of dem may be strong enuf some odas mite not be able 2 go thru dat kind of trauma so wat I propose is dis wit enuf counselling let dem decide nd if any 1 of dem wants 2 adopt let dem have dat option pls u neva walked a day in deir shoes so don't judge dem.even wit d child gone d moda still has a lot of healing 2 do
yinkard4me:

Why in the hell does the action of the rapist have
to be pushed onto the unborn child? Humans are
humans, and believe it or not some people today
have been born as a result of rape; have fun
telling them that they don't have the right to
exist because of something they had no part in.
What these mothers NEED is prenatal care,
availability to adoption if they do not want the
babies, and counseling to overcome the trauma of
rape. Aborting an innocent human does nothing
to cover up or improve the pain that rape does to
a woman, and neither does it bring justice to the
rapist.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by tunde1200(m): 9:45pm On May 06, 2015
Nice one

Scholar8200:
It's best to keep the pregnancy for the following reasons:
1. The unborn child is completely innocent and , with good training, will not take after its father;
2. Abortion is tantamount to murder. The world will cry out if a criminal's 7 months old baby is taken to be executed with him in the firing squad;calling for the murder of the unborn babies because of their fathers' sin should also be denounced .
3. The abortion could result in the death of the mother; what then?
4. The abortion could lead to serious health complications/infertility for the mother; what then?
5. The child,if allowed to live, may become the consolation for its mother, rising above a dark background, refusing to be limited/defined by same; why not?

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Jhayeahsam01(m): 9:53pm On May 06, 2015
tb joshua voice; I saw a rebirth of boko haram
powerful in 10folds than the fore fathers
destructive and killing
satan is dr fada...
pls i can only see buh can't avert the situation...
let all of emm abort or.......
in t b Joshua's voice
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Nobody: 10:21pm On May 06, 2015
Last time I checked, abortion is still illegal in Nigeria....

But personally, I will convert it to incomplete abortion and take it to hospital where they will complete it legally D;
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by tete7000(m): 10:25pm On May 06, 2015
yinkard4me:

some of them are physically and financially ok to
raise a child. i want answers on its religious
implications. thats why i took it here

If the answer to the question you sought is religious - It is not justified. Killing or blood shedding in any form is a sin. As per how the victims will survive, we should pray and leave that to God. He gradually over time reveals solution to problem. It is why patience and long-suffering are among the gifts of the Holy Spirit. When living becomes hard, we often need to relinquish all to him. He doesn't fail and doesn't disappoint. If he feels any of the conceived children do not deserve to come, they will be miscarriaged. However for anyone that is born, we can be sure God has everything set out for the child to succeed if the parents cooperate with him. The problem is that we human beings often want God to solve our problems but before he could act, we take it all out from him and solve our problems ourselves with attendant consequences we faced afterwards. We should forget however that Jesus said those who try to save their lives will loose it and those who loose their lives for my sake will save it. Let God determines who lives and who dies. Abortion is sinful!

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