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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by okikiosibodu(m): 10:33pm On May 06, 2015
Scholar8200:
It's best to keep the pregnancy for the following reasons:
1. The unborn child is completely innocent and , with good training, will not take after its father;
2. Abortion is tantamount to murder. The world will cry out if a criminal's 7 months old baby is taken to be executed with him in the firing squad;calling for the murder of the unborn babies because of their fathers' sin should also be denounced .
3. The abortion could result in the death of the mother; what then?
4. The abortion could lead to serious health complications/infertility for the mother; what then?
5. The child,if allowed to live, may become the consolation for its mother, rising above a dark background, refusing to be limited/defined by same; why not?

All this is very easy to say, bt u cnt giv all these a tot if u r d one involved, or someone close to u
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by dahmie2013: 10:50pm On May 06, 2015
I don't support abortn, nyone dat isn't interested in d baby shud be taken by d govt. As dey are, d govt needs 2 monitor dem till dey deliver, d govt shud take responsiblity 4 its failure instead of creating more problems 4 ppl. Boko children shud be taken care of by d govt.

I feel so sad 4 dem, all d ppl behind this act will face God's judgement&it will be terrible dey can be sure of dat.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Perryjackson(m): 10:56pm On May 06, 2015
Kill the girl we don't need another Boko
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Scholar8200(m): 11:12pm On May 06, 2015
okikiosibodu:


All this is very easy to say, bt u cnt giv all these a tot if u r d one involved, or someone close to u
I acknowledge that the trauma from the whole issue will be much on the women involved but nos 3 & 4 are possibilities that they face should they opt for an abortion. Remember that they are already malnourished and an abortion may occasion loss of blood. Let's say 50% opt for abortion, that will be 107 women on queue and you know what this means: shoddy and hasty job that places the women at risk. Point 3 shows that opting for abortion is similar to an attempted suicide (it's a 50/50 chance of either surviving or dying).
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Nobody: 11:31pm On May 06, 2015
noo!!!!!! opportunity to create a new generation and let them know how corrupt IS is.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Nobody: 11:45pm On May 06, 2015
This is the kind of life that deranged fanatics want for women- they shouldn't go to school and must continue to be their sex slaves. We clearly see their intentions now. People with such mentality should be fished out and burnt to death.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by leonard4real(m): 12:17am On May 07, 2015
Scholar8200:
It's best to keep the pregnancy for the following reasons:
1. The unborn child is completely innocent and , with good training, will not take after its father;
2. Abortion is tantamount to murder. The world will cry out if a criminal's 7 months old baby is taken to be executed with him in the firing squad;calling for the murder of the unborn babies because of their fathers' sin should also be denounced .
3. The abortion could result in the death of the mother; what then?
4. The abortion could lead to serious health complications/infertility for the mother; what then?
5. The child,if allowed to live, may become the consolation for its mother, rising above a dark background, refusing to be limited/defined by same; why not?



If your sister was among those girls will u keep d baby! U jst talking bullshit
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by gentl(m): 8:42am On May 07, 2015
I think it is a personal decision .if the girl(s) want to keep it, or if the family of the girl want to keep it...you need to consider the level of stigmatization in Nigeria not to talk of the north..the motherr and the baby will be tagged wit different names n also deprivation Or even outcasted
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by poik(m): 9:44am On May 07, 2015
yinkard4me:
214 of the girls rescued from Boko Haram
have been confirmed pregnant. (not that I'm
surprised anyway). My question is this,
considering the psychological consequence of this,
both long and short term, can abortion be justified
in this instance??
Christians and Muslims, your view


In as much as I don't want to sound insensitive to the plight of a woman who was humiliated and violated in such dastardly manner, I would still advocate for her not to abort it. For one thing, the God that frowns at abortion is wiser than all of us. Bible actually calls the foolishness of God the height of the wisdom of man. The fact that there are dire and painful consequences of keeping the baby is most times a figment of what we think. Whoever obeys God ALWAYS has the last laugh; I don't care how long it takes. My two kobo!!

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Pamelayoung: 9:49am On May 07, 2015
Scholar8200:
It's best to keep the pregnancy for the following reasons:
1. The unborn child is completely innocent and , with good training, will not take after its father;
2. Abortion is tantamount to murder. The world will cry out if a criminal's 7 months old baby is taken to be executed with him in the firing squad;calling for the murder of the unborn babies because of their fathers' sin should also be denounced .
3. The abortion could result in the death of the mother; what then?
4. The abortion could lead to serious health
complications/infertility for the mother; what then?

I totally disagree with you. There is no way those children will grow up 2b gud. D blood of their father runs in them.
5. The child,if allowed to live, may become the consolation for its mother, rising above a dark background, refusing to be limited/defined by same; why not?
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Scholar8200(m): 9:52am On May 07, 2015
leonard4real:




If your sister was among those girls will u keep d baby! U jst talking bullshit
Noted, with thanks.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by soopamom: 9:54am On May 07, 2015
mmsen:


Is killing in self-defence wrong? Or would you lay down and allow yourself to murdered if some accosted you?

If the young lady was raped and became pregnant as a result then of course the pregnancy is the cause. Why should the baby be dragged into such a scenario? Is the girl not free to protect herself from further long term trauma for both her and the unwanted/unplanned pregnancy?
are you comparing abortion to killing in self defence? the girl is free to choose whatever she wants, i'm just saying justifying it based on these circumstances is just...pfffft! what trauma are you talking about ? and how does killing an innocent babe in the womb compare to being accosted by murderers?
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by soopamom: 9:58am On May 07, 2015
dammytosh:


Very easy to say until as a lady, you are raped by a close cousin or kidnapped by Boko Haram
FYI, maybe i was raped, maybe i'm currently a single mother to the product of that rape. you dont know. if you have ever carried a babe in your womb then you will know that the babe feels more like "you" than anybody else and the fact that it was the product of such circumstances will only make you want to wrap her in your love and protect her from any and all of the terrible things that happen in this world. That's the true mother instinct.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by soopamom: 9:59am On May 07, 2015
Justfollowit:


You are a selfish being
you my dear are a vindictive being
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by mmsen: 10:01am On May 07, 2015
soopamom:

are you comparing abortion to killing in self defence? the girl is free to choose whatever she wants, i'm just saying justifying it based on these circumstances is just...pfffft! what trauma are you talking about ? and how does killing an innocent babe in the womb compare to being accosted by murderers?

The emotional trauma that comes with having a child by a rapist.

We already know that most women struggle to raise children when the father of that child is no longer a part of the woman's life - how much worse must it be when the father is a rapist? What would that do to the self-esteem of the child?
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by yinkard4me(m): 10:01am On May 07, 2015
booqee:
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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by yinkard4me(m): 10:08am On May 07, 2015
booqee:


kai i'm jealous oo.. who is vickyrotex? angry so we don dey two for ur hand?? angry angry angry

grin grin

ok ok on a more serious note, i believe they should be given the option if they want abortion or not (hopefully they all choose a YES on it). I already stated in an earlier thread that its better they abort that pregnancy than keep it. really those women are barely able to fend for themselves talk less of another 'bastard' child (no insult meant pls), a child who would remind them of the disgusting ordeal they passed through. See its a sure thing that 95% of those women are alredy depressed or going through some other psychological trauma... and they definitely need to be helped out of the situation.. A boko haram child will not allow them to successfully pass that stage.

Abortion is a sin quite alright, but God is a merciful God... (I know that sounds like testing His patience) embarassed
booqee, jealousy is allowed........ BTW vickyrotex is a good friend dat almost served in my PPA buh was stowed away to the capital on NATIONAL ASSIGNMENT. grin

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Nobody: 10:16am On May 07, 2015
yinkard4me:

booqee, jealousy is allowed........ BTW vickyrotex is a good friend dat almost served in my PPA buh was stowed away to the capital on NATIONAL ASSIGNMENT.
ehenn...issorait


VickyRotex:


I'm here ooo cheesy grin kiss
tongue

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by soopamom: 10:36am On May 07, 2015
mmsen:


The emotional trauma that comes with having a child by a rapist.

We already know that most women struggle to raise children when the father of that child is no longer a part of the woman's life - how much worse must it be when the father is a rapist? What would that do to the self-esteem of the child?

Does aborting the baby undo the rape? How will it take care of the trauma ? please help me understand that. if you cant deal, the give the child up for adoption. i would gladly adopt a child irrespective of his/her background and i know several other people that would do the same.

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by VickyRotex(f): 11:04am On May 07, 2015
yinkard4me:

booqee, jealousy is allowed........ BTW vickyrotex is a good friend dat almost served in my PPA buh was stowed away to the capital on NATIONAL ASSIGNMENT. grin


cheesy I was stowed away cheesy sad It was a wonderful experience afterall.

God Bless you Mon Ami grin
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Gemc3(f): 11:13am On May 07, 2015
VickyRotex:


#Smiles.
Brb, in an hour or 2. Cant type much for now.

*Modified*

This is a case of "oro yi so si mi lenu, o bu yo si"

Truth is, religion aside, abortion to me is immoral. I for once can't stand preventing an innocent kid from coming to this world to fulfil his or her purpose

But in this case, there are slim chances of those girls wanting to keep the babies, especially with the circumstances surrounding the conception.

Believe me, lots of these girls can't handle it. Those girls are so strong to have survived the ordeal, but not all of them can survive the next phase, I dont think it will be fair to them, by forcing them to keep the babies against their own will.

I had this same dicussion with someone yesterday, and she said If I dont support abortion, what if some of the girls dies during child birth, and I smiled, and asked her, what if some of the girls die during abortion too? She was tryna put her words together.

The truth is, either abortion or birthing the child, they are both risky.

Someone said, its better they die during abortion, than keep the babies. And I was shocked . Really


One thing is, aborting those kids will not erase the trauma of those girls. Some will feel worse after the abortion. You know that.

I'll share a short story:

I took permission from a friend before deciding to share this.

She is a very close friend, the day she told me the situation that surrounded her birth, I was "wooowed" Her mum got married while she was young (19), at age 20, they got attacked by robbers and her mum's husband was killed, the mum raped. The mum decided to keep the pregnancy, Now, this girl is a result of that rape. Yea, she is. Now a motivational speaker, Now, someone lots of people wanna listen to her words of advice.

She'll publish the book soon, that talks about her ordeal. How she strived to survive, despite the discouragement from people.


Now, not all kids conceived from rape turns out to be bad afterall, lots of them choose to proove their fathers wrong, and in turn be a blessing to the society.

Now, someone might be saying, that's 1:20 in cases like this, but I'd just say let's look on the brighter side, let's be optimistic. Keeping those kids, wouldnt be a bad idea afterall.


In all, I'd just say, these girls should be given a free will to decide what they want and shouldnt be compelled or forced to.

If there's any of them willing to keep the pregnancies, (ofcourse, I know there'd be lots of them willing to) and wants to give the babies out for adoption or to NGO's, I already said it, I'm very much willing to adopt at most 5.

I'm sure there are various NGO's willing to help this ladies aswel. Trust me, some of these girls will go back to their kids in the future.

All said, abortion aint the best way out here, there are other ways out.

Medical practitioners should help out, and let each girl know her chances of surviving abortion or giving birth.


But in all I wouldnt blame/judge any of these girls if they abort the kids.

IOO,OOO,OOO Likes smiley

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by VickyRotex(f): 11:27am On May 07, 2015
Gemc3:


IOO,OOO,OOO Likes smiley

Thanks Gem kiss

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by mmsen: 11:40am On May 07, 2015
soopamom:


Does aborting the baby undo the rape? How will it take care of the trauma ? please help me understand that. if you cant deal, the give the child up for adoption. i would gladly adopt a child irrespective of his/her background and i know several other people that would do the same.

The truth as to the origins of the child will eventually come out. If it does not then the child will grow into a confused and incomplete adult.

You might wish to take care of such a child but you seem unable to consider the mental welfare of the child.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Nikyluv(f): 11:47am On May 07, 2015
Orunto:
The seeds in them are bokoharam and so satanic. God gives the Doctors Skills to abort. Let them do their job.
don't forget is a sin
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Orunto: 12:24pm On May 07, 2015
No. It is not a sin.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Moana(f): 12:43pm On May 07, 2015
Good to see men with a heart out there, i hope you will be this unbiased if you ever have to court or marry a woman whose child was a result of rape smiley
Scholar8200:
It's best to keep the pregnancy for the following reasons:
1. The unborn child is completely innocent and , with good training, will not take after its father;
2. Abortion is tantamount to murder. The world will cry out if a criminal's 7 months old baby is taken to be executed with him in the firing squad;calling for the murder of the unborn babies because of their fathers' sin should also be denounced .
3. The abortion could result in the death of the mother; what then?
4. The abortion could lead to serious health complications/infertility for the mother; what then?
5. The child,if allowed to live, may become the consolation for its mother, rising above a dark background, refusing to be limited/defined by same; why not?
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Kay17: 2:44pm On May 07, 2015
We are accustomed to finding suffering as a punishment. We assume suffering is always deserved, and dished out according to fault.

In this case, we are in a dilemma because we recognize the innocence of a child despite the 'sinful' circumstances it is a result of. And the pains of the supposed mother because no one deserves to be rape. Rape itself is a form of torture along with its consequences -- a child. The mother does not deserve to carry on the burdens and reminders of rape neither is the child to suffer the 'sins' of the father.

I think, an evil has to be picked but such burden of choice ought not to be ours. It is a no win situation, why would you want to take responsibility for another's troubles. It is best to leave the decision-making to the woman.

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Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by luluosas(m): 5:26pm On May 07, 2015
yinkard4me:
214 of the girls rescued from Boko Haram
have been confirmed pregnant. (not that I'm
surprised anyway). My question is this,
considering the psychological consequence of this,
both long and short term, can abortion be justified
in this instance??
Christians and Muslims, your view
Not matter what circumstances, no abortion because it is a dangerous crime against God
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Kay17: 5:42pm On May 07, 2015
luluosas:

Not matter what circumstances, no abortion because it is a dangerous crime against God

A crime against God has to be something that puts God in a grave danger. Since we often consider God to be above all dangers, there can be no crime against him. Only the foetus and you would be offended.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by luluosas(m): 8:18am On May 09, 2015
Kay17:


A crime against God has to be something that puts God in a grave danger. Since we often consider God to be above all dangers, there can be no crime against him. Only the foetus and you would be offended.
Can you give life? You definitely have no right to take the life you can't give.
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Kay17: 10:29am On May 09, 2015
luluosas:

Can you give life? You definitely have no right to take the life you can't give.

Rights are strictly a legal term and have only a legal appeal. The real question is can you?
Re: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? by Nobody: 4:18pm On May 09, 2015
soopamom:
Abortion is either right or wrong, there is no such thing as "in this instance". Dont kill is dont kill, it's not okay to kill just because you were raped or because a child's father is boko haram or bla bla bla. Abi is it the pregnancy that is responsible for your rape?

You can make your comment without sounding so insensitive

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